Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-10-05 Thread Ellie Young
Chris, Just to followup on two points in your last communication: We are doing a post-conference feedback survey and report this year with the Learning & Eval people here so that we can measure impact and also have more data year to year going forward. Stay tuned for that later this year. The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-29 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Andrew, I think your conclusions are largely the same as the points I'm trying to make, so all is good! Don't get me wrong, I do think Wikimania has an important impact, and don't actually want to stop having it every year, I'm just curious about the silence that has followed that WMF

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-29 Thread Andrew Lih
On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 4:31 AM Chris Keating wrote: > Hi Lodewijk, > > If Wikimania was an entity rather than an event, it would be in the > top 5 entities in the movement - a smaller budget than WMF, Wikimedia > Deutschland and the Wiki Education Foundation but larger than anything > else... >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-29 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Lodewijk, If Wikimania was an entity rather than an event, it would be in the top 5 entities in the movement - a smaller budget than WMF, Wikimedia Deutschland and the Wiki Education Foundation but larger than anything else... And yet it doesn't have any objectives (or at least, not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-28 Thread effe iets anders
Perhaps stating the obvious, but please remember there were some significant flaws with the consultation by the WMF that you refer to (especially with regards to the way questions were phrased and options were limited beforehand, if I recall correctly). Wikimania's purpose is mostly pluriform and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-28 Thread Chris Keating
> > So it seems that the main rationale for an annual Wikimania brought up in > > the 2016 meeting was that Wikimania was vital for movement governance and > > accountability. Which wasn't particularly stressed in the WMF's > > consultation, but I can see why that kind of issue was very fresh in >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-28 Thread Chris Keating
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 1:10 PM Andrew Lih wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 3:40 AM Chris Keating > wrote: > > > So it seems that the main rationale for an annual Wikimania brought up in > > the 2016 meeting was that Wikimania was vital for movement governance and > > accountability. Which

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-28 Thread Andrew Lih
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 12:46 PM James Heilman wrote: > The Wikimedia Conference is "closed" in that only those who are invited are > allowed to attend. Wikimania is an open conference meaning basically anyone > can attend, including those currently outside the movement. This is a great point

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-28 Thread Andrew Lih
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 3:40 AM Chris Keating wrote: > So it seems that the main rationale for an annual Wikimania brought up in > the 2016 meeting was that Wikimania was vital for movement governance and > accountability. Which wasn't particularly stressed in the WMF's > consultation, but I can

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-27 Thread James Heilman
The Wikimedia Conference is "closed" in that only those who are invited are allowed to attend. Wikimania is an open conference meaning basically anyone can attend, including those currently outside the movement. I view a global conference as critical to our long term success. Well most of what we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-27 Thread Chris Keating
So it seems that the main rationale for an annual Wikimania brought up in the 2016 meeting was that Wikimania was vital for movement governance and accountability. Which wasn't particularly stressed in the WMF's consultation, but I can see why that kind of issue was very fresh in peoples' minds in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-19 Thread Andrew Lih
Full disclosure: I’m a member of the Wikimania Committee but I am not speaking on behalf of that body in this mail. The current custom is that Wikimania happens every year and that while the selection is made by the Wikimania Committee, the WMF has final approval over the selection and the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-19 Thread Philip Kopetzky
Hi Ellie, is there an official statement by the WMF that explains why Wikimania 2020 is happening and that the funding for this event is secured? Wikimania does cost quite a lot of money and I was under the impression that it was unclear as to if, how and why Wikimania should take place 2020. But

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-08 Thread Ellie Young
No. We are looking more at rotating regions if we can, and excellent proposals/teams. On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 3:31 AM Joseph Seddon wrote: > Hello Ellie, > > Is Wikimania still on its programme of "1 EU/US Wikimania" followed by an > "Away Wikimania"? > > Seddon > > On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-07 Thread Joseph Seddon
Hello Ellie, Is Wikimania still on its programme of "1 EU/US Wikimania" followed by an "Away Wikimania"? Seddon On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 11:44 PM Ellie Young wrote: > The Wikimania Steering Committee and Wikimedia Foundation are seeking > expressions of interest from interested parties for >

[Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-06 Thread Ellie Young
The Wikimania Steering Committee and Wikimedia Foundation are seeking expressions of interest from interested parties for hosting Wikimani a 2020. Please see the following for more information: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2020 If you are interested in discussing the possibilities