Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright workflows - research (Was: Re: Foundation management of volunteers)

2019-06-18 Thread Yann Forget
Yes, that would be very welcome by all contributors reviewing images. Regards, Yann On Tue, 18 Jun 2019, 22:29 James Heilman, wrote: > So Yann should we as a community just build something as a proof of > concept? If we are talking less than 250 USD per month, I am sure we can > scrounge up

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright workflows - research (Was: Re: Foundation management of volunteers)

2019-06-18 Thread James Heilman
So Yann should we as a community just build something as a proof of concept? If we are talking less than 250 USD per month, I am sure we can scrounge up the money for a trial 6 month trial. James On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 2:59 AM Yann Forget wrote: > Hi, > > Yes, James' pricing doesn't match the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright workflows - research (Was: Re: Foundation management of volunteers)

2019-06-18 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, Yes, James' pricing doesn't match the actual cost. We do not need to check all images uploaded to Commons, only the suspicious ones (small images without EXIF data). If we check 2,000 images a day (more than enough IMO), that would cost $7 a day, so $210 a month. Regards, Yann Le mar. 18

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright workflows - research (Was: Re: Foundation management of volunteers)

2019-06-17 Thread effe iets anders
The landscape has changed quite a bit since 2012, and there are a number of players that could offer a service like this by now. It may be worthwhile exploring them briefly (including but not limited to Google), if we believe this is important enough to invest time in (and I agree that there is a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright workflows - research (Was: Re: Foundation management of volunteers)

2019-06-17 Thread James Salsman
Google has been offering reverse image search as part of their vision API: https://cloud.google.com/vision/docs/internet-detection The pricing is $3.50 per 1,000 queries for up to 5,000,000 queries per month: https://cloud.google.com/vision/pricing Above that quantity "Contact Google for more

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright workflows - research (Was: Re: Foundation management of volunteers)

2019-06-17 Thread James Forrester
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 at 06:28, Yann Forget wrote: > It has been suggested many times to ask Google for an access to their API > for searching images, > so that we could have a bot tagging copyright violations (no free access > for automated search). > That would the single best improvement in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright workflows - research (Was: Re: Foundation management of volunteers)

2019-06-17 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, It has been suggested many times to ask Google for an access to their API for searching images, so that we could have a bot tagging copyright violations (no free access for automated search). That would the single best improvement in Wikimedia Commons workflow for years. And it would benefit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright workflows - research (Was: Re: Foundation management of volunteers)

2019-06-17 Thread Mister Thrapostibongles
Leila Since I raised this particular issue,, I'll take the liberty of giving an answer to this question, even though you addressed it to Benjamin. The failure that I was pointing to was not the failure to identify copyright violations, but the failure to address the huge backlog of probable

[Wikimedia-l] Copyright workflows - research (Was: Re: Foundation management of volunteers)

2019-06-17 Thread Leila Zia
Hi Benjamin, My name is Leila and I'm in the Research team in Wikimedia Foundation. Please see below. On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 12:59 AM Benjamin Lees wrote: > > The community has been working on copyright violation issues for a long > time.[2] There are probably ways the WMF could support