Re: [Wikimedia-l] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-07-04 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Martijn Hoekstra wrote: > I have no dog in this race, but facts are not eligible for copyright > protection. > > Martijn, individual facts aren't eligible for copyright, but substantial compilations of facts are. The concept you are missing is "database rights":

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-07-04 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
I have no dog in this race, but facts are not eligible for copyright protection. On Wed, Jul 4, 2018, 17:11 Andreas Kolbe wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 1:54 AM, Denny Vrandečić > wrote: > > > Gnom1 on Phabricator has offered to actually answer legal questions, but > we > > need to come up wi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-07-04 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 1:54 AM, Denny Vrandečić wrote: > Gnom1 on Phabricator has offered to actually answer legal questions, but we > need to come up with the questions that we want to ask. > > In the Phabricator discussion, Denny and others spent some considerable effort to come up with the f

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-07-04 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Hi, Le 18/05/2018 à 19:45, Info WorldUniversity a écrit : At a Wikimedia conference in early 2017, with Lydia and Dario present, I think I learned that all books / WikiCitations in all 301 of Wikipedia languages could be licensed, or heading to be licensed, with CC-0 licensing - https://creativ

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-19 Thread Rob Speer
I would like to not limit the discussion to interwiki links; it also applies to Wikipedia infoboxes and Wiktionary tables, for example. On Thu, 17 May 2018 at 20:55 Denny Vrandečić wrote: > Rob Speer wrote: > > The result of this, by the way, is that commercial entities sell modified > > version

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-19 Thread Info WorldUniversity
Hi Mathieu, Rob, Denny, and Wikidatans, I'm writing to inquire about further Wikidata CC licensing clarifications. Wikidata may be heading to https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/ which allows for a) sharing b) adapting and even c) commercially MIT OCW uses, by way of comparison, http

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When you imply that I do not support Creative Commons and its work on licenses, you are explicitly wrong. It is because of the CC that a harmonisation has taken place. It it thanks to this harmonisation that a lot of material gained a license, becoming accessible. This does not mean that the p

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-17 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Rob Speer wrote: > The result of this, by the way, is that commercial entities sell modified > versions of Wikidata with impunity. It undermines the terms of other > resources such as DBPedia, which also contains facts extracted from > Wikipedia and respects its Share-Alike terms. Why would anyone

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-17 Thread Rob Speer
> As always, copyright is predatory. As we can prove that copyright is the enemy of science and knowledge Well, this kind of gets to the heart of the issue, doesn't it. I support the Creative Commons license, including the share-alike term, which requires copyright in order to work, and I've cont

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Thank you for the overly broad misrepresentation. As always, copyright is predatory. As we can prove that copyright is the enemy of science and knowledge we should not be upset that *copyright *is abused we should welcome it as it proves the point. Also when we use texts from everywhere and re

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-13 Thread Rob Speer
Wow, thanks for the heads up. When I was getting upset about projects that change the license on Wikimedia content and commercialize it, I had no idea that Wikidata was providing them the cover to do so. The Creative Commons violation is coming from inside the house! On Tue, 8 May 2018 at 03:48 ma

[Wikimedia-l] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

2018-05-08 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Hello everybody, There is a phabricator ticket on Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata that you might be interested to look at and participate in. As Denny suggested in the ticket to give it more visibility through the discussion on the Wikidata cha