Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback on the last 2 years

2014-04-15 Thread Christophe Henner
Hi, I will try to put up the matrix and its documentation in english on meta later this week. You can find the matrix itsel in english there on meta : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/Wikim%C3%A9dia_France/Proposal_form#4._How_will_your_organization_measure_an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback on the last 2 years

2014-04-15 Thread
Thanks Christophe, The metrics are easy to understand, I like their simplicity. This makes your goals easy to track, such as both number of volunteer hours and numbers of volunteers being used to analyse volunteer involvement. It would be neat if all chapters were to make these standard, cheap an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback on the last 2 years

2014-04-15 Thread Alice Wiegand
Thank you, Christophe! You demonstrate that the idea of sharing experiences is more than only sharing success stories. And what sounds so easy is so hard to realize and we all are not really experienced in it. You've shown how it can be handled and we all can learn from you and follow your example.

[Wikimedia-l] Wiki Education Foundation website

2014-04-15 Thread Russavia
I came across this press release today on the Wiki Education Foundation,[1] which announces that the WEF is getting $1.39 million from the Stanton Foundation. When I went to the WEF's website,[2] I must say I was disappointed that the website isn't developed at all, although there is a link to bas

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Education Foundation website

2014-04-15 Thread Pete Forsyth
Congratulations to the Wiki Education Foundation -- this is a big accomplishment, and should bode well for Wikipedia engagement in the U.S. and Canadian educational systems for a long time to come! The Wiki Education Foundation has documented its progress well on-wiki. Currently its "home page" is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Education Foundation website

2014-04-15 Thread LiAnna Davis
Hi Russavia, I have no clue where those Flickr photos are coming from, but my guess is it's some sort of default for whatever template was installed originally. Clearly it's inappropriate for our organization. I've asked the web administrator to take the Flickr link down, so hopefully that will di

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Education Foundation website

2014-04-15 Thread Russavia
Great stuff LiAnna, you may want to redirect the domain to Meta until such time as the website is developed. The only thing worse than a website with no content is a Lorem ipsum website. At least now we know who to contact at the WEF and who will respond quickly to issues :) Cheers Russavia O

[Wikimedia-l] Documentation of the Wikimedia Conference 2014

2014-04-15 Thread Cornelius Kibelka
Hi Wikimedians, on behalf of the Documentation Team of the Wikimedia Conference 2014 I'm happy to announce that we published all the minutes and photos of all sessions, as far as they were available and ready. Check them out on https ://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2014/Documentati

[Wikimedia-l] Introducing the newly redesigned WMF Shop

2014-04-15 Thread Caitlin Cogdill
Hello, We are pleased to announce the Wikimedia Shop[1] has undergone a redesign as of this afternoon. One of the shop's primary priorities for 2014 was to make it more visually appealing and user friendly. It is our hope that these changes will enable us to increase sales so that we can support m

[Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-15 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi folks, I'd be interested in hearing broader community opinions about the extent to which WMF should sponsor non-profits purely to support work that Wikimedia benefits from, even if it's not directed towards a specific goal established in a grant agreement. This comes up from time to time. One

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-15 Thread Michael Peel
Hi Erik, I'd say 'maybe'. I think this sort of work is worth supporting in general, but the question should be whether providing the support would improve the content and/or provision of the Wikimedia projects. I'd like to see a good community-driven process that would determine whether such sp

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-15 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'd be interested in hearing broader community opinions about the > extent to which WMF should sponsor non-profits purely to support work > that Wikimedia benefits from, even if it's not directed towards a > specific goal establ

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-15 Thread David Gerard
On 15 April 2014 20:50, Erik Moeller wrote: > I'd be interested in hearing broader community opinions about the > extent to which WMF should sponsor non-profits purely to support work > that Wikimedia benefits from, even if it's not directed towards a > specific goal established in a grant agreem

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-15 Thread David Gerard
On 15 April 2014 21:08, Martijn Hoekstra wrote: > It's a difficult question. I'm in favour in general, and I think it's a > good idea to support projects that we use and need the money. The problem I > have with it (and that is absent in your points above) is in how far we > have the "moral right

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-15 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
There is a reason if the last precedent is in 2006. Search your mail archives for later discussions on FreeNode. Erik Moeller, 15/04/2014 21:50: MariaDB specifically invited WMF to become a sponsor, Do they only accept unrestricted donations? If not, they could consider that the WMF grants a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-15 Thread Kat Walsh
In general, I do think Wikimedia should do this. Briefly: Wikimedia is in an extremely fortunate position: it can raise all the money it needs from many small donors, and can expect to be able to do so continually into the future. This is partially because it is a great thing that many people val

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-15 Thread Samuel Klein
Hello Erik, there are cases in which this is clearly the right thing for us to do. 1) An annual 'supporting the ecosystem' program, that channels grants and visibility to important partners, seems interesting. Could this be implemented as a targeted grants program? Or just targeted outreach enco

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-15 Thread Sage Ross
TL;DR: Yes, I think we should be pro-actively putting significant financial resources into the open source ecosystems we rely on. Thanks Erik! This is a great discussion to have. As I see it, we have a whole lot of potential fundraising revenue that we leave unraised, simply because WMF doesn't h

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-15 Thread Kevin Gorman
Just mentioning it because David mentioned the Internet Archive. The IA is actively interested in collaborating with Wikimedia, and I think they have a lot to offer us - the reason nothing has come to fruition yet has been a combination of funding constraints and time constraints for everyone invo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-15 Thread Nathan
I agree with Mike Peel on 'maybe' - I think donations from the WMF to non-profit organizations could be great and very useful, but that the WMF should 1) ensure that the donations have a substantial impact (i.e. not $500 to ICRC, where WMF funds would get lost in a sea of other contributors), 2) t

[Wikimedia-l] Funding of decentralized... Re: Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-15 Thread Mathias Damour
Le 15/04/2014 21:50, Erik Moeller a écrit : Hi folks, I'd be interested in hearing broader community opinions about the extent to which WMF should sponsor non-profits purely to support work that Wikimedia benefits from, even if it's not directed towards a specific goal established in a grant agr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-15 Thread David Gerard
On 15 April 2014 21:57, Nathan wrote: > I'd also personally support in-kind donations (i.e. dedicate an FTE or > portion of an FTE to integration work that benefits a non-profit, or > implements a feature that is requested for a specific platform, etc.). > Training or consultation provided by a p

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [WMFr] Feedback on the last 2 years

2014-04-15 Thread Charles Andrès
Thanks for that, And because I’m one of those who ask repeatedly I thank you twice :-) What I like in your feedback is that it echoes the « let’s do better mistake tomorrow » last saturday in Berlin. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2014/Programme#21_Let.E2.80.99s_make_bette

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-15 Thread Charles Andrès
In a period where all the fund dissemination of the movement is driven by the question "what's the impact on wikimedia project" and a community-driven process, I would suggest that any redistribution of the funds done by the WMF would follow the same rules. Charles Le 15 avr. 2014 à 21:57,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-15 Thread Frédéric Schütz
Hi Erik, I personally like all these ideas a lot (and I also agree with most of the comments that have been made so far); in particular, the fact that you mention both the server and the client side (as well as other communities) is very appealing to me. Within Wikimedia CH, this is an idea that

[Wikimedia-l] Mobile Operator IP Drift Tracking and Remediation

2014-04-15 Thread Adam Baso
I emailed mobile-l and wikitech-l about this, now I'm moving this discussion to wikimedia-l. Here's the longer technical thread: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2014-April/006884.html In summary, to show Wikipedia Zero banners for the correct mobile networks, we are planning once fo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Mobile Operator IP Drift Tracking and Remediation

2014-04-15 Thread MZMcBride
Adam Baso wrote: >In summary, to show Wikipedia Zero banners for the correct mobile >networks, we are planning once for each cellular-based app session to log >two pieces of data in a specialized logfile, deleting log entries older >than 90 days. > >1. MCC-MNC

[Wikimedia-l] "Because you don't hear it enough"

2014-04-15 Thread ENWP Pine
An editor wrote this on Jimbo's talk page. I hope you will appreciate this as much as I do. "Because you don't hear it enough" "I love it here. I love Wikipedia. It's got its problems - lots of them. It has its issues. It's not perfect. But that, in its way, is the point. It's not a complete e

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-15 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Frédéric Schütz wrote: > Within Wikimedia CH, this is an idea that we have discussed a few years > ago: how can we support software and other communities that our > community depends on, while avoiding to just give away money. In the > end, we supported financiall

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-15 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > Hello Erik, there are cases in which this is clearly the right thing > for us to do. > > 1) An annual 'supporting the ecosystem' program, that channels grants > and visibility to important partners, seems interesting. Could this > be implemen