Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediauk-l] Idea: Let's have a 3D printer at Wikimania

2014-06-15 Thread
On 15 June 2014 02:57, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com wrote: Just make a RepRap ourselves. Materials typically cost ~£300-400 these days. http://www.reprap.org/wiki/RepRap The 3D printer itself is libre hardware and is capable of manufacturing most parts of itself! RepRap looks like a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [cultural-partners] [Wikimediauk-l] Idea: Let's have a 3D printer at Wikimania

2014-06-15 Thread Richard Symonds
All, I'm talking to the initial proposer (Nonlineartom) at the moment. He has a fair bit of experience with this sort of thing. I will have a proper look next week when I'm back at work, but this should be something we could do relatively cheaply. On 15 Jun 2014 11:25, John Cummings

[Wikimedia-l] On relationship gossip and appropriate conversation

2014-06-15 Thread Pete Forsyth
All: In other Wikimedia-related forums, recent discussions have focused on some (alleged) comments at the Wiki Conference in New York. Apparently, some people suggested that the WMF's Executive Director should dump her significant other.[1] Many have expressed outrage about this. (For background,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On relationship gossip and appropriate conversation

2014-06-15 Thread Nathan
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: All: In other Wikimedia-related forums, recent discussions have focused on some (alleged) comments at the Wiki Conference in New York. Apparently, some people suggested that the WMF's Executive Director should dump

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On relationship gossip and appropriate conversation

2014-06-15 Thread Austin Hair
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: I think we all share a concern about the amount of drama in our community-wide discussions. Expressing outrage (even though it's sometimes appropriate and necessary) can often be the fuel of drama -- and I think it's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On relationship gossip and appropriate conversation

2014-06-15 Thread Pete Forsyth
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: Can you sum up what you're trying to accomplish in one sentence Well, fairly close to one sentence: English Wikipedia is seeing a shift in how many longtime banned users are regarded, commanding substantial valuable

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On relationship gossip and appropriate conversation

2014-06-15 Thread Pete Forsyth
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: it doesn't explain what you want. For that part, read this again, which you misinterpreted. Parentheses to clarify, this time: I don't think it's a good idea to [ignore (this apparently escalating situation) on this email

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On relationship gossip and appropriate conversation

2014-06-15 Thread Pete Forsyth
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Here are the ethical principles I think you're espousing: I don't think you read my message very carefully. 1) Vicious, hurtful gossip and speculation about a female executive's private personal life is acceptable No,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On relationship gossip and appropriate conversation

2014-06-15 Thread Nathan
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: No, I have not recapped the whole situation. What I think is appropriate is that we find a way to bring the situation to a calm conclusion of some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On relationship gossip and appropriate conversation

2014-06-15 Thread Christophe Henner
Hi, I'm puzzled of those emails. Especially melting organisational discussions and private issues. Who sleeps with whom is of no importance actually. What you seem to describe is someone using a personal relationship with a leader of our movement to push forward its POV. This asks for an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On relationship gossip and appropriate conversation

2014-06-15 Thread Milos Rancic
Christophe, Wil tried to open issues closed few years ago. Besides that, not under ED mandate. Everything else in his behavior was behavioral problem, not substantial one. Thus, quite irrelevant. Just if Lila opens the same questions -- and I am sure they are far from her focus -- that would

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On relationship gossip and appropriate conversation

2014-06-15 Thread Andrew Gray
On 15 June 2014 19:13, Christophe Henner christophe.hen...@gmail.com wrote: From my point of view, french wikimedian, all I saw is some drama around specific topics that stopped days ago. As far as I know, the crisis isn't going further than that. And what your email, sofar, is doing, is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On relationship gossip and appropriate conversation

2014-06-15 Thread Pete Forsyth
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Christophe Henner christophe.hen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm puzzled of those emails. Christophe, thank you for explaining how this looks from your end. I understand now why this would come across this way, and will put together a more focused summary like

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On relationship gossip and appropriate conversation

2014-06-15 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Please don't Thanks, GerardM On 15 June 2014 21:19, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Christophe Henner christophe.hen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm puzzled of those emails. Christophe, thank you for explaining how this looks from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On relationship gossip and appropriate conversation

2014-06-15 Thread edward
On 15/06/2014 20:08, Milos Rancic wrote: Christophe, Wil tried to open issues closed few years ago. Besides that, not under ED mandate. In what sense were these issues 'closed'? 'Closed' usually means 'resolved'. As far as I know, they were not resolved.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On relationship gossip and appropriate conversation

2014-06-15 Thread Milos Rancic
On Jun 15, 2014 10:07 PM, edward edw...@logicmuseum.com wrote: On 15/06/2014 20:08, Milos Rancic wrote: Christophe, Wil tried to open issues closed few years ago. Besides that, not under ED mandate. In what sense were these issues 'closed'? 'Closed' usually means 'resolved'. As far as I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On relationship gossip and appropriate conversation

2014-06-15 Thread edward
On 15/06/2014 20:19, Pete Forsyth wrote: Since this seems to be the most heated issue at the moment, I want to point out: I am not the one who made these allegedly nasty comments public; the person who made them public, and then proceeded to discuss them in numerous public forums, was Wil

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] Israel’s Ministry of Education Wikimedia Israel Agree On New, Unique Initiative

2014-06-15 Thread Yves Z
Interesting, and nice publicity with an Education Minister. It mentions History and Geography as topics.Does this mean a similar project is needed in Palestine to maintain neutrality? Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 09:01:11 +0200 From: ps.hu...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On relationship gossip and appropriate conversation

2014-06-15 Thread Pete Forsyth
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 1:19 PM, edward edw...@logicmuseum.com wrote: If making them public is the problem, then the aggressor and one of the victims are one and the same person. You are saying that Sinclair is the aggressor here? Not at all -- you'll note that my statement, quoted above,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] Israel’s Ministry of Education Wikimedia Israel Agree On New, Unique Initiative

2014-06-15 Thread Pine W
Hi Yves, The Wikimedia Foundation runs a project called the Arab World Education Program that I hear is successful. You can read about it on the Wikimedia Blog and in the This Month in Education newsletter. I haven't heard of an Arab country providing a national-level endorsement to the program

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On relationship gossip and appropriate conversation

2014-06-15 Thread edward
On 15/06/2014 22:33, Pete Forsyth wrote: On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 1:19 PM, edward edw...@logicmuseum.com wrote: If making them public is the problem, then the aggressor and one of the victims are one and the same person. You are saying that Sinclair is the aggressor here? Not at all --

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why Wil's actions in multiple forums are a matter of significant concern

2014-06-15 Thread Risker
I'm sorry to say that my reading of your postings to this list in the past 24 hours is that you are making numerous personal attacks and insinuating yourself into the personal lives of individuals. I ask you to stop this line of discussion entirely; if you do not do so, I ask the moderators of

[Wikimedia-l] This Month In Education: June 2014: Volume 3, Issue 5

2014-06-15 Thread The 'This Month In Education' Team
This Month in Education https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/Newsletter is a monthly newsletter documenting recent happenings within the Wikimedia education community. Learn more about Wikipedia in Education at education.wikimedia.org. -- *This Month In