Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-21 Thread Lisa Gruwell
I know the Italian Chapter, the online fundraising team, and community liaisons have been talking about solutions for a while and I won’t get in the way of that, but I thought I would offer a few ideas on some of the online organizing tactics being discussed here. This probably falls in the catego

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Chapters] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-21 Thread Laurentius
Il giorno mer, 19/08/2015 alle 11.39 +0200, Claudia Garád ha scritto: > The worst part was to explain our long-standing and important partner > the Federal Monuments Office that we can't have the banner time at > cruical dates in September (especially the days leading up to our > events > around

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-21 Thread Laurentius
Il giorno gio, 20/08/2015 alle 01.26 -0400, Risker ha scritto: > [...] perhaps a big bright button on the sidebar that says "Upload > images for Wiki Loves Monuments here!" may be technically feasible. This might be a way to mitigate the problem, although I'm not sure whether it's technically fea

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-21 Thread Michael Peel
From my perspective, this strikes me as part of the reason why national organisations are well suited to running the Wikimedia fundraising campaigns rather than a global organisation: if WMIT was organising both WLM and the national fundraising campaign, then this conflict wouldn't have arisen /

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-21 Thread Risker
Given the huge amount of work, the liability and legislative issues and problems with transferring funds across international borders, I'm not persuaded; having dozens of paid fundraising teams is not cost-effective by any stretch of the imagination. The process was stopped because it was costing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-21 Thread Andrew Gray
On 20 August 2015 at 06:26, Risker wrote: > I can understand the frustration that members of WMIT are expressing here, > but I also see Fundraising's point. I wonder if there are not some other > options that could be considered. For example, instead of a banner, > perhaps a big bright button on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-21 Thread Michael Peel
> Given the huge amount of work, the liability and legislative issues and > problems with transferring funds across international borders, I'm not > persuaded; Hence why I said "part"; this wasn't meant to be a persuasive argument, it was just a comment on this particular issue. The other topics

Re: [Wikimedia-l] GA Stats using Wikimedia Stats

2015-08-21 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Wikidata should know whether an article has a badge or not (see here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1156 ) On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 4:14 AM Tito Dutta wrote: > Thanks a lot. It was very helpful > No, most of these Wikipedias don't have such categories. I'll check > further. > Regards. > > On 19

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-21 Thread Romaine Wiki
I think you describe the essence of the problem: there is a big gap between the community and the Wikimedia Foundation. I have a long list of problems from the past years that all seem to originate in this basic problem. The Wikimedia Foundation is too much de-attached from the community. At the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

2015-08-21 Thread Romaine Wiki
If the fundraising banner was planned in November to be shown in Italy, the problem would have been the same. Only the time could have a positive impact. Also then something has been missed: Wiki Loves Monuments is a sticky project in September, already for years, as it is attached to a world wide