Re: [Wikimedia-l] [arbcom-l] Where is WMF with pursuing companies that offer paid editing services

On 13 April 2017 at 05:01, Pine W wrote: > I would like for WMF to make Burger King feel that their > misuse of WIkipedia was inappropriate and for WMF to hit them where it > counts -- in their checkbook -- and with enough force that corporations > will decide that messing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [arbcom-l] Where is WMF with pursuing companies that offer paid editing services

On 14 April 2017 at 11:38, Andy Mabbett wrote: > A far better (and less WP:BITEy) outcome would be to get then to Pretty sure WP:BITE doesn't apply in the case of deliberate abuse for clear purposes of spamming. - d. ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [arbcom-l] Where is WMF with pursuing companies that offer paid editing services

but they didnt spam, nor did they introduce any false hoods, or remove controversial content, they just put a description of the Whopper for the opening sentence. As Andy said rather than biting and creating arguments amongst ourselves would it not be better to have used the opportunity to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [arbcom-l] Where is WMF with pursuing companies that offer paid editing services

I really dont think the Whopper comparison is a good one because the change they made was reasonable and at least more consistent with my understanding of the english language as used here with us having distinct difference between what is a sandwich and what is a burger. The Whopper comment

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [arbcom-l] Where is WMF with pursuing companies that offer paid editing services

Hi there, I agree that we should take action and make it real hard for any corporation financially to achieve this result. Legal action is one thing, but the first thing to be done is to ensure that all affairs of the type are detected and publicly outed, on the very articles if there is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [arbcom-l] Where is WMF with pursuing companies that offer paid editing services

Wikipedia is not for sale. We are not simply another advertising venue available to the corporations of the world. We have mechanisms for corporations to suggest changes to our content and it is called the talk page. Lets look at the changes likely made by Burger King staff in more detail: In

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [arbcom-l] Where is WMF with pursuing companies that offer paid editing services

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 5:23 AM, Gnangarra wrote: > > > but they didnt spam, nor did they introduce any false hoods, or remove > > controversial content, they just put a description of the Whopper for the > > opening sentence. I agree with James on this one. They

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [arbcom-l] Where is WMF with pursuing companies that offer paid editing services

On 14 April 2017 at 17:39, Gabriel Thullen wrote: > The damage has been done. Theverge.com claims to have done such a > modification on Wikipedia, to quote them "as did we, in a test yesterday". > We will probably see more of this. Yes. This is why we need to respond in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [arbcom-l] Where is WMF with pursuing companies that offer paid editing services

This advertising campaign is particularly interesting, it appears that this is the first time we can talk about an exploit (as is said in computer security). It has been done once so it can be done again. What worries me here is that an advertising campaign like this one, mixing TV advertising

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [arbcom-l] Where is WMF with pursuing companies that offer paid editing services

I'm just a bit agog at the idea that this article became "advertising" when Burger King made the connection using Google Home. Since its very first edit, it has been an advertisement for this product. It may not have been intended that way, but that is the reality. Now it's almost 4200 words

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [arbcom-l] Where is WMF with pursuing companies that offer paid editing services

Is it better to think of the problem as paid editing or organized advocacy for persuasion at the expense of accuracy regarding all costs and benefits? Burger King is a commercial enterprise which makes money by mass production of beef products, which require more water and produce more greenhouse

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P.S. The paragraph ending "instead of backsliding, and" should have been followed by "proposing cuts to the payroll tax." On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 12:54 PM James Salsman wrote: > Is it better to think of the problem as paid editing or organized advocacy > for persuasion at