Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-18 Thread Kim Bruning
That's one step better than I was hoping for, If all y'all are already in close contact with Erik, then I'm no longer needed in this phase. :-) (unless I can help with setup, or getting more data, or etc.) Good luck, and have fun! :-) sincerely, Kim Bruning PS. do post regular

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-17 Thread Samuel Klein
The Wikivoyage migration plans should be able to proceed. I haven't seen a specific plan for how that will work; it is still being discussed on Meta and on Wikivoyage. Sam. On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 03:21:55PM +0200,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-17 Thread Stefan Fussan
We are about to migrate the WT data on WV as a first step ( http://www.wikivoyage.org/general/Migration_FAQ ). I am in touch with Erik as well. Till now i have got no time table and any further information from the WMF. But I am sure, during the next two weeks we will know more details about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-14 Thread Kim Bruning
On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 03:21:55PM +0200, Alice Wiegand wrote: Hi all, on behalf of the Board of Trustees I'm glad to announce the following statement about the travel guide RfC http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Travel_Guide : What are the next steps? Will the foundation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-09 Thread FT2
Actually the answer seems simple. Whatever the IB site publicly displays and requires, we can observe what IB considers adequate, plus the attribution requirements of CC-by-SA and any non-conflicting wikitravel reuse terms and attribution to the site itself if needed. We may do more (add diffs

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-09 Thread Nathan
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 8:36 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 September 2012 12:25, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: Whatever the IB site publicly displays and requires, we can observe what IB considers adequate, plus the attribution requirements of CC-by-SA and any non-conflicting

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-09 Thread FT2
Academic yes, however it's noise in their claim. On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 8:36 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 September 2012 12:25, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: All a bit academic in any case - IB didn't sue

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Florence Devouard
To be fair, it's nice to see that they recognize their community has a value :) Flo On 9/6/12 4:40 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton wrote: \o/ Nice! and I'm wondering how they will sue for importing content that is on free license... On 6 September 2012 10:21, Alice Wiegand

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Daniel Zahn
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: and I'm wondering how they will sue for importing content that is on free license... Well, it's Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike, so will have to attribute Wikitravel and the original author(s) on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 7 September 2012 20:40, Daniel Zahn dz...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: and I'm wondering how they will sue for importing content that is on free license... Well, it's Creative Commons

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread emijrp
2012/9/7 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com On 7 September 2012 20:40, Daniel Zahn dz...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com wrote: and I'm wondering how they will sue for importing content that is on free

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Daniel Zahn
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: haven't been following too closely - are there any dumps available? It seems unlikely it will be possible to get any now (I doubt IB can be compelled to provide one). They just disabled their Special:Export page,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 7 September 2012 20:59, Daniel Zahn dz...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Why attribute Wikitravel? The license only requires the author to be attributed, not the first publisher. Ideally, content will be copied across

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread emijrp
When we use 1911 Britannica texts, we only attribute to the encyclopedia, not its authors, so we can put This text comes from Wikitravel. Anyway, if we are going to use Wikitravel texts, writing a script to scrape just the usernames from histories is trivial

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Nathan
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:11 PM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: When we use 1911 Britannica texts, we only attribute to the encyclopedia, not its authors, so we can put This text comes from Wikitravel. Anyway, if we are going to use Wikitravel texts, writing a script to scrape just the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Deryck Chan
Just write Imported from Wikitravel and list the names of all page authors by scrubbing the Wikitravel page. Attribution given, problem solved! (okay, not the import practicality bit) On 7 September 2012 21:14, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:11 PM, emijrp

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread emijrp
How to re-use Wikitravel guides http://www.webcitation.org/6AVYKMbhE Example of credits: http://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=Singaporeaction=credits 2012/9/7 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:11 PM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: When we use 1911 Britannica texts,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Michael Peel
On 7 Sep 2012, at 21:14, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:11 PM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: When we use 1911 Britannica texts, we only attribute to the encyclopedia, not its authors, so we can put This text comes from Wikitravel. Anyway, if we are going to use

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Stefan Fussan
We have a complete set of articles and pictures including the complete history (August 2012 just a day before they disabled the api). We are about to migrate all articles on Wikivoyage. A test of Wikitravel:en articles and wikitravel:shared pictures on Wikivoyage is running. So we have a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 7 September 2012 21:25, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: We encourage attribution of Wikipedia articles as: This article uses material from the Wikipedia article [[Metasyntactic variable]], which is released under the [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 September 2012 20:47, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 September 2012 20:40, Daniel Zahn dz...@wikimedia.org wrote: Well, it's Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike, so will have to attribute Wikitravel and the original author(s) on every single page.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-06 Thread Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
\o/ Nice! and I'm wondering how they will sue for importing content that is on free license... On 6 September 2012 10:21, Alice Wiegand awieg...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi all, on behalf of the Board of Trustees I'm glad to announce the following statement about the travel guide RfC