Re: [Wikimediaau-l] pre-proposal proposal
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Peter Musings thepmacco...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a pre-proposal proposal for a modest change to the WMAU wiki - I'd like to suggest a trial of completely open registrations I think this would lead to tons of spam and a few confused users. There have only been 18 accounts made over the last year and few of those people have edited. You can see the log of created accounts here: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Special:Log/newusers There have been that many spam requests in just the past 2 months. I expect that if registration were open we would get even more spam accounts than this. (Because more bots are programmed to make accounts than request accounts and because they detect other spam on the wiki and note this one as a place you can spam.) If people request an account, we can see if they meant to make an account on Wikipedia instead and redirect them there. They then have a contact email address if they need help, whereas if they made their own account here they'd likely be confused why their new page got deleted or why they're still not able to log in to Wikipedia. Accounts need to be flagged on the wiki as financial or not, so people going through the request process is useful in determining whether they are already members. Angela ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] open wiki editing for WMAU?
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:35 PM, private musings thepmacco...@gmail.com wrote: I've written a proposal on the official wiki to allow registration, and hence editing, by non-members. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:20 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: that is not the process PM, and the process is not yet public so please stop discussing it here. Would a separate wiki be a better idea? That way the committee wouldn't need to worry about the unofficial content being confused for anything they'd approved. And the community wouldn't need to worry about their pages being removed for being in violation of a non-public policy they weren't aware of. Angela ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Sydney meet up?
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Laura Hale la...@fanhistory.com wrote: I am planning on being in Sydney from September 15 to the morning of September 18. I'd love it if there could be some sort of wiki meet up. :) There will be a meetup on September 19th for the AGM http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/2010-2011_AGM, so it's probably not very likely that many people would show up for a meetup a few days before that as well, but you're welcome to try and organise one here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Sydney Angela ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] official wiki
I'm not sure why there's an assumption that edits by members are trustworthy (and edits by others are not). Since anyone can become a member, it's not reasonable to expect none of them will ever do anything bad on the wiki. And you're going to have a problem blocking them from the wiki if editing that is supposed to be something that they've been promised in return for their membership fee - do you want to have to give back their money if you find you need to block them? A better option might be to protect important pages and be quick to block problem users. Angela ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bidding for Wikimania 2012
Have you got any official support from the chapter for this bid? As far as I'm aware, the chapter board has not said anything yet. My hope is that making the first step of putting up a bid page will generate some discussion amongst both the committee and members of Wikimedia Australia and of the wider community in order to work out whether this is the right thing to do and whether 2012 is the right time. Hosting Wikimania in Australia been discussed for many years now, and for me 2012 seems the ideal time for a bid. We've recently had a successful GLAM-WIKI conference, proving there are enough people here to make such an event work. It leaves us with all of 2010 and 2011 to make preparations and to host other smaller events to help build up the team prior to Wikimania in 2012. This is just the very first stage, and deliberately started early (most 2011 bids aren't up yet) in order to allow a lot of discussion and decision making. There's lots of time before anything needs to be finalised for the chapter and its members to put forward their views and to decide whether or not to support this. Angela ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Bidding for Wikimania 2012
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Virtual Steve virtual-st...@hotmail.com wrote: Liam in response to your message below, I find myself firmly in agreement with Andrew's caution as to what is said that the Chapter supported, particularly given that a new board is about to be elected. I am also concerned by the timing of the release of this information so close to that election as it tends to leave an inaccurate impression on the new board as to what are its earliest points of agenda. I'm sorry if I gave any implication that this needs to be an early agenda point. It doesn't. In fact, the board about to be elected is not even the one that needs to give their support. By current schedules, the bid doesn't need to be in until January 2011 - the next board's terms will have expired by then. There really is a long time for other bids to be prepared before anyone needs to decide which one(s) will actually be submitted to the jury, if any. Angela ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Fundraising
Wikimedia's fundraising campaign is starting next month. Six chapters are on the list to take part in that and will receive some of the funding that comes in from relevant countries. Is there any reason Wikimedia Australia is not on the list? Is help needed with anything to get the chapter ready for the fundraising drive so that it can take part? Angela ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Sydney Wiki Wednesday tomorrow
Just a reminder that Wiki Wednesday in Sydney this month will be tomorrow rather than the normal 1st Wednesday of the month. It will be held at Atlassian's office on Sussex Street. More short talks are needed. Please sign up at http://www.customware.net/repository/display/WikiWednesday/Wiki+Wednesday Angela ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wikimedia goes CC
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 3:18 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm yes. So how to outreach to those? There's no good list of all GFDL wikis - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:FDLR is a very small list, WikiIndex.org is good but doesn't categorise by license. A good place to start may be http://s23.org/wikistats/mediawikis_html.php which lists wikis by size. The hardest part might be making them care enough to want to change it. Is there a short, convincing, way of explaining why wikis should switch and how they should do it? What's Wikia doing with its GFDL wikis? It seems from the discussion that most want to switch: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Licensing_update But there will be exceptions, which is fine. I'm not seeing any reason to dual-license them (unless individual wikis want that). The fact Wikimedia was forced to do so is complicating the issue. Angela ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Our website
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:06 PM, private musings thepmacco...@gmail.com wrote: G'day all, I've just been browsing a bit around our website ( http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Wikimedia_Australia ) - and wondered if perhaps we might be able to generally aim a little higher / improve it a bit. http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/05/14/non-profit-website-design-examples-and-best-practices/ has some advice that might be useful. In summary: Make your site donor-friendly Make your site media-friendly Make your site volunteer-friendly Make sure your organization’s purpose is immediately apparent Make sure your content takes center stage Make sure your website is consistent with your other promotional materials Know your site’s purpose up front Include a news section or blog They also list 20 examples of sites that do it well. Angela ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Minutes of committee's 2009-02-15 meeting
2009/2/21 Sarah Ewart sarahew...@gmail.com: If two or more members use the tag DEFER TO MEETING in their comments, resolutions on the topic may not be passed by the wiki method, and must be brought to a real-time committee meeting. Why does this need 2 people? If one person thinks the topic needs further discussion, why not do that and try to come to a consensus on the issue after the discussion? Without it, people may be making the wrong decision when they cast their votes. Angela ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Overseas donation
2009/2/6 Sarah Ewart sarahew...@gmail.com: Yes, it is possible. We've had foreign payments into the WMA bank account before using [[Swift]]. I've sent money to the US before - I just went into my bank and told them I wanted to transfer money to an American bank account and they organised it for me but that was a long time ago and I'm sure there are easier ways to do it now. Brian or Angela probably know more about this sort of thing. I always use paypal for transferring money overseas. It has fees, but at least you know in advance what those fees are, and it's a lot lot less hassle. Angela ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Sydney Morning Herald
I was asked for a comment on the article, but only after it was published. I recommend that a phone number be added to the contact page on wikimedia.org.au. Often an email isn't quick enough for journalists on a tight deadline. Angela 2009/1/23 private musings thepmacco...@gmail.com: an interesting one; http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/biztech/here-comes-britannica-20/2009/01/22/1232471469973.html talking about some new developments in Brittanica's approach it's a shame we (the chapter) didn't get a mention, or a quote or something - but never mind :-) the story is top of the 'top 10 stories of the day' currently at smh.com.au, so it's clearly getting read, by the way. cheers, Peter PM. ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Sydney Morning Herald
2009/1/23 James R. e.wikipe...@gmail.com: I updated the press contacts for Australia on foundationwiki not so long ago, so these are believed to be correct. If Angela and Brianna don't mind, I can add their contact phone numbers to officialwiki - please let me know. I don't mind, but I'm not sure that's the right thing to do as I can't speak on behalf on the chapter. Angela ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Special:Import on the au wiki?
2009/1/20 private musings thepmacco...@gmail.com: Well I started an export by category a few minutes ago, and have been surprised that it's hit 164 megs and counting already! (there's only 30 articles in that list I was expecting about 30 / 50 Meg total - more fool me, I guess!) 2 problems. Export on Wikipedia only gets about 100 revisions rather than the full history, unless you use the API. In my experience, you can not import more than 2MB at a time using Special:Import. You need to break the file up or import it server-side instead using one of the scripts in the maintenance directory. Angela ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] [reminder] Sydney meetup today
Just a reminder for those in Sydney - there's a meetup today at Phillip's Foote in the Rocks starting at 6 pm. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Sydney#December_18th_2008 Hope to see you there! Angela ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
