Re: [Wikimediach-l] Nutzungsstatistiken der Wikipedia oder: Wieviele Schweizer wo mithelfen
Nice statistics, but it doesn't cover the fact, that a lot of provider / companies enter the internet via a german or US-Gateway. Therefore these edits are counted as foreign edits even if the person itself sits in the center of Switzerland. Jürg -- Forwarded message -- From: Christian Thiele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sep 4, 2006 5:37 PM Subject: [Wikide-l] Nutzungsstatistiken auf Meta To: Mailingliste der deutschsprachigen Wikipedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hallo, da sicher nicht jeder Foundation-l liest, will ich an dieser Stelle auf eine nette Statistik hinweisen, die von Kelly Martin in Zusammenarbeit mit Greg Maxwell erstellt wurde. Für die verschiedenen Projekte wird dabei aufgelistet, wieviel Prozent der Bearbeitungen aus welchem Land kommen. Für die deutschsprachige Wikipedia sieht das wie folgt aus: dewiki (10.8%): DE: 76.2%, AT: 5.4%, US: 4.8%, CH: 4.4%, NL: 3.2%, all others: 6.0% 10,8% aller Bearbeitungen aller Wikipedias wurden also in der deutschsprachigen Wikipedia getätigt, wobei ca. drei Viertel der Bearbeitungen aus Deutschland kommen. Interessant finde ich, dass mehr Bearbeitungen der deutschsprachigen Wikipedia aus den USA kommen als aus der Schweiz und selbst Österreich im Verhältnis zur Bevölkerung recht wenige Bearbeitungen vorweist. Aufgeschlüsselt nach Ländern sieht das für die deutschsprachigen wie folgt aus: DE (9.7%): dewiki: 84.4%, enwiki: 9.1%, ruwiki: 1.1%, all others: 5.3% CH (1.0%): dewiki: 48.3%, frwiki: 22.2%, enwiki: 21.0%, itwiki: 3.6%, eswiki: 2.0%, all others: 2.9% AT (0.7%): dewiki: 82.2%, enwiki: 14.1%, all others: 3.7% Damit ist Deutschland das zweitmeistbeitragende Land nach den USA (26.8%). Fast 10% der Bearbeitungen aus Deutschland wurden dabei an der englischsprachigen Wikipedia gemacht. Der Anteil der Bearbeitungen an der englischsprachigen Wikipedia ist in Österreich noch höher als in Deutschland, in der Schweiz arbeitet erwartungsgemäß der größte Anteil an der deutschsprachigen Wikipedia, auch wenn dieser Anteil natürlich im Vergleich zu den nur-deutschsprachigen Staaten gering ist. Daneben interessante Zahlen: 1,8% der Beiträge der englischsprachigen Wikipedia kommen aus Deutschland, 1,2% der französischsprachigen, polnischen und niederländischen und 1,1% der spanischen. Japanisch erweist sich mal wieder als wenig gelernte Fremdsprache: 93,2% der Beiträge kommen direkt aus Japan. Die Esperanto-Wikipedia ist bezüglich dieser Zahlen sicher auch sehr interessant, der größte Teil kommt dort aus den Niederlanden, Deutschland hat 6,9% beigesteuert. In den USA wurden erwartungsgemäß 93,2% der Edits in der eigenen Sprache (englisch) getätigt. 5,6% aller Bearbeitungen aus den Niederlanden wurden in der deutschsprachigen Wikipedia gemacht, auch sonst gibt es viele Staaten um die 2% Bearbeitungen in der deutschsprachigen Version. Die vollständigen Zahlen gibt es auf folgender Meta-Seite: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Edits_by_project_and_country_of_origin Mit freundlichen Grüßen Christian Thiele ___ WikiDE-l mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikide-l ___ www.wikimedia.ch Wikimedia CH website Wikimediach-l mailing list http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l ___ www.wikimedia.ch Wikimedia CH website Wikimediach-l mailing list http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l
Re: [Wikimediach-l] sqlledger for accounting
From my point of view it seems a little bit overloaded for a subject as our foundation. What I did not found out: - how do you set the Kontenplan and the respective numbers? - how do you scale down the leftside menu to the really necessary points. - is there already a standard-Kontenplan for foundations implemented? - exists a standard-Kontenplan for foundations at all? For me, it looks like to use a hyper-zapper to kill a small ant. But as it seems open source, it does not cost us any money to buy it. But what amount of time do you expect to learn to drive this tank? Maybe we can get some assistance from Frédéric, because he is the man to use it afterwards. Jürg -- Zitat von Michael Bimmler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You know how to use it? On 6/18/06, thurner rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, what do you think of using http://sql-ledger.org/ for accounting? rupert. ___ www.wikimedia.ch Wikimedia CH website Wikimediach-l mailing list http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l -- Regards Michael Bimmler Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ www.wikimedia.ch Wikimedia CH website Wikimediach-l mailing list http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l ___ www.wikimedia.ch Wikimedia CH website Wikimediach-l mailing list http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l
Re: [Wikimediach-l] Translation
Hi Frederic * active voting right = right to get a job within the corporation / association * passive voting right = right to vote for someone Even the swiss constitution and the cantonal constitutions make differences between these two rights. Jürg -- Zitat von Frederic Schutz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: More questions for the French translation: Art. 4.3 Active members have active and passive voting rights as well as the right to speak, file a motion and vote on motions in the general assemblies. What is the difference between active and passive voting right ? If only active members have them, should they be simply voting rights ? Frederic ___ Wikimediach-l mailing list Wikimediach-l@Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l ___ Wikimediach-l mailing list Wikimediach-l@Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l
Re: [Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions
I agree with Frederic I know that several actions must be done BEFORE the real foundation, but I still do not see why we need a special post address BEFORE the foundation - and even after the foundation, since we do not expect a bunch of mail. And as long there is no founded association, we all (= all of this mailing list? At least all persons, who are willing to help for this project) could be charged personally for things you do now. I am also not very happy with the naming and wording. Resolution, the numbers and the used words sound really strange, such as they are created by the UN or some crooked lawyers. Why can't the articles be named like Decision Technic / Decision Postal Adress and inside a simple list of decisions, that were done...? And at least - as far as I know, there is no consensus about the location of the address (Zürich vs. Berne vs. Olten vs. Geneva vs. Hintertupfingen) - so why this haste? Just asking Jürg Wolf Zitat von Frederic Schutz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Looking at the latest changes on the CH wiki... is it on purpose that the current resolutions look as formal as a UN Security Council resolution ? RESOLVED... AND... FURTHER RESOLVED... so proposed on the fifteenth of March 2006. I know it is borderline to hairsplitting, but this makes the whole thing look very bureaucratic, especially given that there no formal entity yet... Could we do with friendlier texts, please ? Also, do we really need to protect the pages ? We all know that even if changes are made after a resolution has been accepted, they can be reverted. The reason I am asking this (in addition to the general principle that we should only protect pages if needed) is that there are several typos on the page Board/Resolutions/2006/02 that I was ready to correct. Last, but not least... this resolution says that Wikimedia CH shall have its seat in Zurich. Does that mean until a President is elected, or is there a change to the proposed bylaws ? Frédéric ___ Wikimediach-l mailing list Wikimediach-l@Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l ___ Wikimediach-l mailing list Wikimediach-l@Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l
Re: [Wikimediach-l] Board resolutions
I'm sorry for my recent postings because they were a bit sarcastic a maybe not clearly defaced as zynical. My opinion in this whole thing is: 1) If our preliminary board thinks, we need a special postal address - I'm OK with it because I don't have the whole view. And on the meeting last year we gave you the mandate and the power to operate towards the swiss chapter. And that's what you did. As far as I know, we had not a clear consesus about the Vereinsadresse on this ML and I wondered, why it popped up out of the blue with nearly fixed details. I'm also fine with Zürich, but I couldn't remember a consensus in this question. 2) Many thanks to Michael for his very good explanation. You maybe were a bit too impressed by the thing, that it must be lawyer-proof. But remember - it must be lawyer-proof for swiss lawyers and not for US lawyers... ;-) 3) So for swiss legal reasons a simple protocol should be enough. So you also could use a normal wording such as: Decisions done at a virtual meeting done by M. Bimmler, N. Stöcklin: * Wikimedia CH needs for several reasons a post mail address. Therefore we organize a Feste Vereinsadresse offered by Swiss Post. The proposed address is Wikimedia CH, 8000 Zürich, Switzerland. To get it we need a resolution of the preliminary board (which is constitued by the persons mentioned above), a place in CH and a delivery address. ** The needed resolution is this document ** The place on the Vereinsadresse is Zürich but is still a subject of discussion ** The delivery address is the address of Michael Bimmler as it seems, that he gets the secretary job of the association. * As soon as the association is founded, this resolution must be confirmed by the elected board. * The costs of this action will be payed by but can be reclaimed after the foundation of the association. Zürich, 15. 3. 2006 The Preliminary Board of Wikimedia CH Michael Bimmler, Nando Stöcklin I hope that in board meetings of the elected board a similar wording is used and not a US-lawyer wording. Jürg -- Zitat von Michael Bimmler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Now there seems to be a big discussion going on here and I would like to clarify a few points as the resolutions come from me and Nando: ... ___ Wikimediach-l mailing list Wikimediach-l@Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l
[Wikimediach-l] Call for Auditors / Board Members
I would like to remind here, that we even need some Auditors. This year it won't be that important but by the revision of the OR (which will go live by begin of 2007), it is foreseen, that the auditors must have a special education in bookkeeping. This means any kind of education beyond of simple milk-book-calculation. Balance sheet analysis is minimum. Therefore the audience of potential auditors is not that big... I wrote the same note on http://ch.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board/Candidatures In between I don't know if some persons realized their nomination for board. In the last few days were nominated: - Muvon53 - Robin Schwab - Frederic Schutz I would like to ask these persons to post a short statement, if they would like to accept if they would be elected. Jürg Wolf ___ Wikimediach-l mailing list Wikimediach-l@Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l
