Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia Servers and Copyright Issues

2013-05-14 Thread Balasankar Chelamattath
@Srikant, Sorry but I think not. US laws says differently. They are considering date of publishing. When the author died is not their concern. That is a major difference b/w Indian and US laws. Even if something is in free domain according to Indian laws, they have to satisfy some criteria to be in

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia Servers and Copyright Issues

2013-05-14 Thread Balasankar Chelamattath
Thanks Anchal. But one doubt. For literary works, the binding limit (Berne/ TRIPs) is life + 50 years, > whereas in India it is life + 60, whereas in the US it is life + 70 or > 120/95 if made on work for hire. > > Doesn't US Law consider the date of publishing for copyright purposes. I think they

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia Servers and Copyright Issues

2013-05-14 Thread Yann Forget
Hello, The autobiography and some other works were deleted from the English Wikisource and moved to Wikilivres because of URAA. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Mohandas_K._Gandhi Also several volumes from "The Collected Works of Mahatma Gandhi" were deleted from Commons: http://commons.wikim

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia Servers and Copyright Issues

2013-05-13 Thread Achal Prabhala
Thanks Yann, this is extremely interesting. Balasankar, is there an easy to access list of actual or proposed deletions from Wikisource on similar grounds? (There's an interesting question on Gandhi here: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Possible_copyright_violations#copyright_status_o

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia Servers and Copyright Issues

2013-05-13 Thread Yann Forget
Hi Achal, Please see http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Indian_law_deletion_requests The following are old photos from India deleted because of USA law: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Mountbatten_at_Gandhi_cremation.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia Servers and Copyright Issues

2013-05-13 Thread Achal Prabhala
Hi Yann, Following on this, do you have some specific examples of Gandhi work (images, text or whatever) that is in the public domain in India but had a problem being put on to Commons or Wikisource because of copyright issues in the US? I suspect that a list of specific cases would be quite

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia Servers and Copyright Issues

2013-05-12 Thread Yann Forget
AFAIK, it would only be an external link. Yann 2013/5/12 Achal Prabhala : > I like Wikilivres, was just wondering - has anyone tried to create a > placeholder for an image/ text on commons or Wikisource with an external > link to the file on Wikilivres (when said image or file is public domain >

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia Servers and Copyright Issues

2013-05-12 Thread Achal Prabhala
I like Wikilivres, was just wondering - has anyone tried to create a placeholder for an image/ text on commons or Wikisource with an external link to the file on Wikilivres (when said image or file is public domain outside the US but not within) - I guess the question is how to connect public d

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia Servers and Copyright Issues

2013-05-12 Thread Yann Forget
There is already in Canada a server available for hosting content which cannot be hosted on Wikimedia servers. I think this solution should gather more support. http://wikilivres.ca/ (previously wikilivres.info). Regards, Yann 2013/5/12 Achal Prabhala : > Hi Balasankar, > > The question you rais

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia Servers and Copyright Issues

2013-05-12 Thread Achal Prabhala
Hi Balasankar, The question you raise is a very important one. The solution, however, is not likely to be to host content in India (I don't speak for the Wikimedia Foundation, but there are sound legal reasons why all Wikimedia content is hosted in the US; mostly liability risk and freedom of

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia Servers and Copyright Issues

2013-05-12 Thread Yann Forget
Hello, Yes, this is a huge problem for Indian content hosted on Wikimedia servers, and not only for Wikisource, but also for pictures, movies, sounds, etc. hosted on Wikimedia Commons. There were quite a few famous images of Mahatma Gandhi deleted for this reason. Regards, Yann 2013/5/9 Balas

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia Servers and Copyright Issues

2013-05-12 Thread Gautam John
From a couple of years ago: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-August/004080.html Thank you. Best, Gautam http://www.akshara.org.in/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscrib

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia Servers and Copyright Issues

2013-05-12 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Hi, as far as my understanding goes, in nearly all cases, publication happens much before death of the author [unless published posthumously]. So, if the Author of the work died more than 60 years ago, the work will be in the Public Domain as per Indian laws. As I said, unless the work has been pub

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia Servers and Copyright Issues

2013-05-12 Thread Balasankar Chelamattath
Hi Srikanth, I didnt quite understand what you meant by example. An example for a work which is in public domain in India and not in US - Works by Changampuzha Krishnapillai ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changampuzha_Krishna_Pillai ). He passed away in 1948, and hence it is 65 years after the auth

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia Servers and Copyright Issues

2013-05-10 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Hi Balasankar, Can you point out specific instances and show when and where the book or publication was first published? If the works are still copyrighted in India, then they should be copyrighted in the US as well, generally speaking. The term India awards to creators is lesser than the one provi

[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia Servers and Copyright Issues

2013-05-10 Thread Balasankar Chelamattath
Hi all, As most of you know, the Indian copyright law says that a book gets relieved of copyright after 60 years from the author's death. But this is not the case with US Law. As given here, of all the works published outside US