It is interesting to see that not a single concerned person from WMF is
commenting in this thread.
WMF has a new ED now. Lets take this opportunity to raise the issues from
India to her directly before the WMF staff does her formatting !! Lets
flood her mail box
zZ
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at
Hi,
Do you not think that it would be better to ask that donations be used to
only fund certain aspects of the movement - for eg to power the servers
etc. than to ask for a blanket ban on such donations?
Your comments are focused on one aspect of the movement which as
Wikimedians we should be
On May 1, 2014 6:32 PM, arun vm arunweb...@gmail.com wrote:
Why not wikimeedia cant grow without forighn funds.
Its foreign fund until you see yourself alienated from the movement. You
see it as community fund if you feel you are part of the movement.
I see that Ravi and others are worried
On May 1, 2014 6:32 PM, arun vm arunweb...@gmail.com wrote:
HOme work?.
I hate it from my school days :)
I just want to tell a story about anna hasare that movement is
completly based on online acttivitys such peopels are all from india
and kejariwalls AAP is completly based on online
Hi Kevin,
// Looking at the table, it looks like CIS-A2K's total staff budget is a
little shy of $300k a year. The FDC is currently handing out what, $6m USD
a year? Even if CIS was entirely funded out of the FDC (and it isn't,
their APG request is for less than $300k,) that's pretty much a
Hi Kevin,
You completely took it wrong. The intention was not to stop you, but to get
enough people who might be little hesitant to come here and share their
words. I would repeat the same that your comments are always welcome. :-)
Just to add to more what Dhaval has said and I have indicated
Kevin,
1. WMF has questioned the salary rationale for WMIN staff.
See
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:PEG/WM_IN/Program_Grant_Quarter_1_2013#Measurement_system_for_outreach_events_and_salary_rationale
and
Why not wikimeedia cant grow without forighn funds.Almost all
technichal platforms are developed+code is gnu licenced
And all most all contents in web is licenced under creative commons
licence. and in india we have 110 millions of population.So many
indians are trained in global standards.
I
HOme work?.
I hate it from my school days :)
I just want to tell a story about anna hasare that movement is
completly based on online acttivitys such peopels are all from india
and kejariwalls AAP is completly based on online activitys
Are you peopels are able to accept india is already matured
Pradeep's email sums up the scenario pretty well. I completely agree with
the points he's put forth.
It is a very sad situation.
As for Ravi, being a long-time member of Wikimedia community in India, I
can understand where he comes from while evidently seeming to obstruct the
funding. All I can
Hoi,
What is unclear in the response of Asaf that there is no relation between
the money received by CIS and the Indian chapter? There is no rupee less
available to India when either CIS or the Indian chapter gets less money.
When you spoil it for CIS, you spoil it for India.
When the Indian
Gerard,
Thanks for the carrots, sticks and snake oil.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form#Long-term_organisational_plans.3F
makes it clear that CIS-A2K is not going to exit anytime soon and they will
Like Gerard, I'm quite confused at the purpose of trying to get people to
stop donating to the Wikimedia Foundation, and am a bit disappointed to see
such a suggestion coming from someone who holds advanced rights on some of
the projects. I also note that the response of CIS-A2K's executive
Kevin,
It isn't about the exact numbers and percentages. It is about integrity.
You accept that you are getting over paid and yet you won't fix it, then it
is putting your personal interest above the movement's interest.
You call yourself a non-proft and yet you pay a salary that is far above
I would equally suggest that trying to cut off or limit the flow of funds
to the movement because you're upset that someone is being overpaid is
putting your personal interest above the movement's interest. I mean, if
you were literally successful in your stated goal, the movement would no
longer
When its about the Indian Community, I would further appreciate if
community members from India write in here. There seems to be more to
foreign members defending CIS-A2K grant while it should be more of Indian
community either defending or chasing.
I think Gerard needs to understand the Indian
Hi Karthik -
I'll step back from the conversation after this, but did want to say that
although I haven't been active in many discussions on this list, I've read
almost every conversation on every public list related to the Wikimedia
movement's activities in India for the last several years, as
Kevin,
// I just wanted to speak up when I saw someone with advanced permissions
on multiple projects actively suggest an action that, if successful, would
not be good, and even if not successful, won't be good.//
My criticism is not different from what Sue Gardner, WMF Executive director
says
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