[Wikimediaindia-l] [OT][Press] : Skip the numbers game
http://www.thehindu.com/life-and-style/nxg/article2919794.ece Curriculum is always a few years, if not decades, out of date. Only by getting out can you get knowledge and skills that are current and useful. For example, I did the Google Summer of Code (internship) with mediawiki last year, and am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, where I help run Wikipedia, an amazing job with a huge impact. Would've never happened if I stuck to my “curriculum”. - YUVARAJ PANDIAN Go Panda! -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [OT][Press] : Skip the numbers game
Excellent! 2012/2/23 Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com: http://www.thehindu.com/life-and-style/nxg/article2919794.ece Curriculum is always a few years, if not decades, out of date. Only by getting out can you get knowledge and skills that are current and useful. For example, I did the Google Summer of Code (internship) with mediawiki last year, and am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, where I help run Wikipedia, an amazing job with a huge impact. Would've never happened if I stuck to my “curriculum”. - YUVARAJ PANDIAN Go Panda! -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [OT][Press] : Skip the numbers game
Just to clarify that I'm not a drop out :) (http://yuvi.in/blog/college-drop/) On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Excellent! 2012/2/23 Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com: http://www.thehindu.com/life-and-style/nxg/article2919794.ece Curriculum is always a few years, if not decades, out of date. Only by getting out can you get knowledge and skills that are current and useful. For example, I did the Google Summer of Code (internship) with mediawiki last year, and am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, where I help run Wikipedia, an amazing job with a huge impact. Would've never happened if I stuck to my “curriculum”. - YUVARAJ PANDIAN Go Panda! -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Languages on Wikipedia Android application
Blog post by GerardM on how to tweak your android device to support Indic languages: http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2012/02/trick-android-to-use-your-language.html Would be awesome if people here could test it on their device + language combination :) -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Languages on Wikipedia Android application
Yes - if you have an Android phone or know someone who has one, please do that! It takes just two minutes. If you can't make this app work at all, please email us and we'll try to help. If you are able to set your language in this app, but the phone shows you squares instead of real letters, go to the shop where you bought the phone and ask how you can get it to support your alphabet. You may be surprised at the result. Even if they won't be able to help you, please email this list and tell us about your experience, for example, what was their explanation for not supporting your languages. Being familiar with how things actually work in India's mobile phone market will help us improve the support for your languages on phones. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore 2012/2/23 Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com: Blog post by GerardM on how to tweak your android device to support Indic languages: http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2012/02/trick-android-to-use-your-language.html Would be awesome if people here could test it on their device + language combination :) -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Improving outreach efforts in India
On Feb 18, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 17:12, Nitika ntan...@wikimedia.org wrote: The following is a post I've put up on the India Program page on meta regarding outreach (Please see:http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Program/Outreach_Programs). Please do comment on the page itself; I'm posting it on this mailing list only to make sure it doesn't slip your attention. Bumping up to grab attention. I know there are many folks with years of outreach experience on the list. Can you please comment on the talk page? (Or even here, I could do the job of copypasting!) It is important to discuss, get perspectives / approaches towards outreach right since we would spending a lot of time,energy, donor money on this and its essential to design them well so we could make it effective and better. Slightly related :- shamelessplug http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Digital_Outreach_and_Physical_Outreach /shamelessplug Bumping right back to get attention since this is such an important topic. Here are 10 questions that we need answers for and the India Program team is grappling with Do we know what is the right profile of audience for an outreach session? (tech or non-tech / students or professionals / age group / language group?) We must avoid shooting in the dark and that's the only way that the current conversion rate of 0.1% (my guesstimate) can be come more reasonable. How do we draw the right balance between giving them enough information during and outreach session that the feel adequate to successfully edit but not too much that they get intimidated and run off? Can we make sure that ALL workshops are not theory sessions but that everyone has a computer in front of them and can actually do very basic editing - like creating a user name and making 5 edits, even if they are not particularly complex. Theory will get us nowhere. This also has implications on the maximum number of attendees as well as our not doing sessions where all we have a box to stand on and give random gyan. What can we do to make sure we stay in touch with newbies post the session. We have to figure out an efficient way of reaching out after the workshop because their heads will be full of doubts once they actually start editing. Also, once they have been warmed-up by the workshop, we must gently nudge them read up more and click on edit. How can we anticipate the inevitably teething up issues for newbies and proactively address them - in the outreach and in the post-outreach contact. I'm wildly generalising but I fear I might be right that we already know the typical problems newbies. .First of all, they want to create brand new articles - instead of looking at incremental improvements to existing articles. Secondly, especially on en-wp, they find it difficult to figure out what topic to work on because everything is covered fully - which we know is not the case. Thirdly, they stumble on notability, NPOV and MoS. Fourthly, they find referencing tedious. Fifthly, some mess around and find vandalism fun. Sixthly, something like notability isn't immediately clear to them because one often approaches things with a insular frame of reference. Can we address clinically address these in workshops? How do use social networks effectively - but not get drowned in them. fb is a great way of attracting users to workshops or photothons - but is a terrible place to discuss policies. How do we get the right balance? Specifically for Indic languages, how do we make sure that we have relatively less rigid and comprehensive policies (which work for en-wp with tens of thousands of editors - but is totally impractical when we have 50 editors which is the case for all but 3 Indic communities.) Specifically for en-wp, how do we provide some kind of additional support on encyclopedic writing in English - especially given that English is not a native language. Would having newbie English editors from India as part of some kind of a group with experienced English editors from India (who would therefore be intimately familiar with the linguistic challenges) to support them make sense and is it practical? (While I write this, I am also acutely aware that we can't right a lifetime's education of a newbie - but can we make useful baby steps?) Is there a way we can get existing editors who might not be confident of their public speaking skills - but are great 1-on-1 - to adopt newbies and have mini workshops on an individual basis? (I know this is inefficient - but it affords them a chance to contribute in outreach as well and over time, I am confident that many will gain the self-assurance to handle larger audiences.) Lastly, and most certainly not the least, how do we measure the impact of every single outreach session, analyse the reasons for success or otherwise? How do we disseminate these learnings to the
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Languages on Wikipedia Android application
I checked for Benagli (bn-BD and bn-IN). When i enabled those locals the Wikipedia app icon text and buttons were displayed in Bengali. But when the EN is enabled it shows the home page of the EN wiki but here it does not show the home page article content. I am saying home article content because the footer license texts are visible . thanks Nasir Khan Saikat On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Yes - if you have an Android phone or know someone who has one, please do that! It takes just two minutes. If you can't make this app work at all, please email us and we'll try to help. If you are able to set your language in this app, but the phone shows you squares instead of real letters, go to the shop where you bought the phone and ask how you can get it to support your alphabet. You may be surprised at the result. Even if they won't be able to help you, please email this list and tell us about your experience, for example, what was their explanation for not supporting your languages. Being familiar with how things actually work in India's mobile phone market will help us improve the support for your languages on phones. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore 2012/2/23 Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com: Blog post by GerardM on how to tweak your android device to support Indic languages: http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2012/02/trick-android-to-use-your-language.html Would be awesome if people here could test it on their device + language combination :) -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- *Nasir Khan Saikat http://profiles.google.com/nasir8891* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Improving outreach efforts in India
The core question, one must ask if one wants to improve outreach is how much effort one wants to put in because, remember,every action takes effort preparation most importantly follow up. Obviously, all this effort will have to be shared and encouraging and motivation of outreach volunteers needs to be done to encourage them to take up all aspects of outreach. If the will is there, the way is open. There are lots of hints online now thanks to those of the Community who so painstakingly took the trouble to write down all these aspects. Conversely, it is good news, because the success of outreach can now be seen to be a matter of effort. Lots of work WILL give dividends. Motivation of outreach volunteers however remains core to the issue. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Feb 18, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 17:12, Nitika ntan...@wikimedia.org wrote: The following is a post I've put up on the India Program page on meta regarding outreach (Please see: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Program/Outreach_Programs). Please do comment on the page itself; I'm posting it on this mailing list only to make sure it doesn't slip your attention. Bumping up to grab attention. I know there are many folks with years of outreach experience on the list. Can you please comment on the talk page? (Or even here, I could do the job of copypasting!) It is important to discuss, get perspectives / approaches towards outreach right since we would spending a lot of time,energy, donor money on this and its essential to design them well so we could make it effective and better. Slightly related :- shamelessplug http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Digital_Outreach_and_Physical_Outreach /shamelessplug Bumping right back to get attention since this is such an important topic. Here are 10 questions that we need answers for and the India Program team is grappling with 1. Do we know what is the right profile of audience for an outreach session? (tech or non-tech / students or professionals / age group / language group?) We must avoid shooting in the dark and that's the only way that the current conversion rate of 0.1% (my guesstimate) can be come more reasonable. 2. How do we draw the right balance between giving them enough information during and outreach session that the feel adequate to successfully edit but not too much that they get intimidated and run off? 3. Can we make sure that ALL workshops are not theory sessions but that everyone has a computer in front of them and can actually do very basic editing - like creating a user name and making 5 edits, even if they are not particularly complex. Theory will get us nowhere. This also has implications on the maximum number of attendees as well as our not doing sessions where all we have a box to stand on and give random gyan. 4. What can we do to make sure we stay in touch with newbies post the session. We have to figure out an efficient way of reaching out after the workshop because their heads will be full of doubts once they actually start editing. Also, once they have been warmed-up by the workshop, we must gently nudge them read up more and click on edit. 5. How can we anticipate the inevitably teething up issues for newbies and proactively address them - in the outreach and in the post-outreach contact. I'm wildly generalising but I fear I might be right that we already know the typical problems newbies. .First of all, they want to create brand new articles - instead of looking at incremental improvements to existing articles. Secondly, especially on en-wp, they find it difficult to figure out what topic to work on because everything is covered fully - which we know is not the case. Thirdly, they stumble on notability, NPOV and MoS. Fourthly, they find referencing tedious. Fifthly, some mess around and find vandalism fun. Sixthly, something like notability isn't immediately clear to them because one often approaches things with a insular frame of reference. Can we address clinically address these in workshops? 6. How do use social networks effectively - but not get drowned in them. fb is a great way of attracting users to workshops or photothons - but is a terrible place to discuss policies. How do we get the right balance? 7. Specifically for Indic languages, how do we make sure that we have relatively less rigid and comprehensive policies (which work for en-wp with tens of thousands of editors - but is totally impractical when we have 50 editors which is the case for all but 3 Indic communities.) 8. Specifically for en-wp, how do we provide some kind of additional support on
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Languages on Wikipedia Android application
2012/2/23 Nasir Khan nasir8...@gmail.com: I checked for Benagli (bn-BD and bn-IN). When i enabled those locals the Wikipedia app icon text and buttons were displayed in Bengali. Thank you very much for testing! Now you can tell your friends that there's a Wikipedia app in Bengali. But when the EN is enabled it shows the home page of the EN wiki but here it does not show the home page article content. If your phone's locale is English, you can still read the content of Bengali Wikipedia in the app by tapping the Read in button in the menu (পড়া হচ্ছে). I am saying home article content because the footer license texts are visible . To create a real mobile homepage, an admin of the Bengali Wikipedia only needs to add a couple of CSS rules to the Main page of the regular Bengali Wikipedia. Here are the instructions: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway#Mobile_homepage It should only take about a minute. Also, could you please translate a few remaining messages in the app's interface to Bengali? There are just 32 short messages left to translate in Bengali. The translation is done here: http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translategroup=out-wikipedia-mobilelanguage=bntask=viewoffset=0limit=500#msg_mobileapp-search-placeholder If you don't have an account at translatewiki.net, you'll need to create one to translate :) ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Languages on Wikipedia Android application
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: If your phone's locale is English, you can still read the content of Bengali Wikipedia in the app by tapping the Read in button in the menu (পড়া হচ্ছে). On a side note, Read in doesn't really translate to পড়া হচ্ছে . -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Languages on Wikipedia Android application
Hi, Sankarshan, 2012/2/23 sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.com: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: If your phone's locale is English, you can still read the content of Bengali Wikipedia in the app by tapping the Read in button in the menu (পড়া হচ্ছে). On a side note, Read in doesn't really translate to পড়া হচ্ছে . That's what the current translation says. It doesn't have to be perfectly literal, it just has to be useful in context. If you think that it's wrong in this context, can you please correct the translation at the same link? - http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translategroup=out-wikipedia-mobilelanguage=bntask=viewoffset=0limit=500 And complete the remaining translations, while you're at it :) Thanks a lot! -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Languages on Wikipedia Android application
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: That's what the current translation says. It doesn't have to be perfectly literal, it just has to be useful in context. If you think that it's wrong in this context, can you please correct the translation at the same link? - http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translategroup=out-wikipedia-mobilelanguage=bntask=viewoffset=0limit=500 The difference arises in the context of how you would translate/interpret the following sentences in your local language: - the content is being read in insert language and, - you can read the content in insert language And complete the remaining translations, while you're at it :) I'm not a fan of fly-by-night translation contributions even if it is from a natural speaker of the language. There are various nuances and contexts which translators put into their words and even though community oriented translation camps are the flavor of the month, I've more often seen and experienced the need to do clean-ups and reviews at the end of the day. The initial mail was merely a feedback. I'm certain that those who have the privileges to work on the project will figure out what to do. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Languages on Wikipedia Android application
2012/2/23 sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.com: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: That's what the current translation says. It doesn't have to be perfectly literal, it just has to be useful in context. If you think that it's wrong in this context, can you please correct the translation at the same link? - http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translategroup=out-wikipedia-mobilelanguage=bntask=viewoffset=0limit=500 The difference arises in the context of how you would translate/interpret the following sentences in your local language: - the content is being read in insert language and, - you can read the content in insert language It's the latter. When you approach the translation of this phrase, a documentation message that explains it will appear. I just improved it further. And complete the remaining translations, while you're at it :) I'm not a fan of fly-by-night translation contributions even if it is from a natural speaker of the language. There are various nuances and contexts which translators put into their words and even though community oriented translation camps are the flavor of the month, I've more often seen and experienced the need to do clean-ups and reviews at the end of the day. The initial mail was merely a feedback. I'm certain that those who have the privileges to work on the project will figure out what to do. In translatewiki.net you need very little technical privileges. You just open an account, request translator right, and that's it. It's true that translations have to be refined often - both because the original messages (usually in English) are updated, and because translators sometimes make mistakes. Such refinement is going on in translatewiki.net all the time. We *always* need more people in *all* languages to help translating. To have complete support for a language in Wikimedia projects, thousands of messages need to be translated, and the number is growing every day. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Languages on Wikipedia Android application
I set my android to to language ml. Only some of the icon in the apps turned Malayalam. But my News and Weather App turned completely ml. The photo editor and Video Maker app turned completely in Malayalam Language. Wikipedia app turned ml and default page set to ml page. I dont think i can attach the snapshot here. will try to upload in commons. But the ml Chillu Problem still exists. User:Rameshng On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: Blog post by GerardM on how to tweak your android device to support Indic languages: http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2012/02/trick-android-to-use-your-language.html Would be awesome if people here could test it on their device + language combination :) -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [OT][Press] : Skip the numbers game
cracking... information :-) Thanks for sharing Srikanth L and nifty job Yuvi Panda, happy for you :-) On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: Just to clarify that I'm not a drop out :) ( http://yuvi.in/blog/college-drop/) On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Excellent! 2012/2/23 Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com: http://www.thehindu.com/life-and-style/nxg/article2919794.ece Curriculum is always a few years, if not decades, out of date. Only by getting out can you get knowledge and skills that are current and useful. For example, I did the Google Summer of Code (internship) with mediawiki last year, and am an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, where I help run Wikipedia, an amazing job with a huge impact. Would've never happened if I stuck to my “curriculum”. - YUVARAJ PANDIAN Go Panda! -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- * *Thanks n Regards Ansuman * ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ * http://twitter.com/smileyansu * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ansumang * * ___ * * Wikipedia Odia (Oriya) mailing list wikipedia...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-or facebook.com/OdiaWiki Tweet @OdiaWiki * ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Languages on Wikipedia Android application
Oh, cool. If i understand correctly, this means that your phone has a font, but with broken chillus, which is still better than nothing, but to actually make it work and show some Malayalam interface you have to use that app. I'll be very glad to hear more reports like this! 2012/2/23 Ramesh N G rames...@gmail.com: I set my android to to language ml. Only some of the icon in the apps turned Malayalam. But my News and Weather App turned completely ml. The photo editor and Video Maker app turned completely in Malayalam Language. Wikipedia app turned ml and default page set to ml page. I dont think i can attach the snapshot here. will try to upload in commons. But the ml Chillu Problem still exists. User:Rameshng On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: Blog post by GerardM on how to tweak your android device to support Indic languages: http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2012/02/trick-android-to-use-your-language.html Would be awesome if people here could test it on their device + language combination :) -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Just for some motivation and amusement, watch this: *Where the hell is Matt? * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY Cheers Noopur On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Thanks a lot Swaroop, We are expecting more inputs from you guys, and please free to add/modify the questions wikipedians have to keep in mind ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1). I have also received responses from Pune and Ahemadabad communities. If you guys can shoot some videos at the end of the meet ups as there will be a gathering of wikipedians it will be good. We can make a prototype video to make the Indic language communities understand the way they need to make this video. Thanks Subha On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Swaroop Rao raul.swar...@gmail.comwrote: Swaroop Rao (MikeLynch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch) On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 20:38, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Let me clear this confusion. Dear Srikanth R, *please* attempt to read the ENTIRE mail. I suggested recording in a popular format because converting and editing ogv is a PAIN. And, it reduces video quality by two times. +1 to that. OGV, for all its openness, is a big pain to work on, especially for converting. Another thing, if we are to upload these videos to Commons, *obviously* we will have to convert them to open formats. So, no one is denying that. It is rather obvious and understood. So now that we have cleared confusions, can the SIGs and guys organizing meetups please raise hands? Will you guys be able to do such recording? *raises hand* I am willing to create such a video; I appreciate Subha's mail about what exactly to say, but it shouldn't be a boring, mechanical interview-style answering of questions. If it is to motivate others, it should be catchy (read ad-like). On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Well, that's the whole point. The final file to be hosted for public would be ogg and the backend work will involve raw file editing collected in different formats. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Subhashis exactly, you might know this, but Xiph (developers of .ogg /.ogv) doesn't even endorse .ogv. And .ogg can be used with Matroska. Though I'll convert the videos in .ogv. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:53:51 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia That sounds good Konarak, and apart from the loss of quality most handy cam users might not be aware of converting them to ogg, but once you convert raw footages to ogg there will be difficulty to edit, because normally the final avi/mpeg is converted to a open source format and uploaded in Commons. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey Srikanth, that's fine by me, twas just a suggestion, because in .ogv there is loss of quality due to compression. Subhashish, I will, in the Meetup, it's on 19th of feb. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:10:39 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Yes, they are also being invited to participated, it's about Indian Editors and Indian faces. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: And what about participation of the Indian English Community? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here are the answers I have to all of you. @Noopur: nice points, I am including them all and here is draft for the community which I will be posting in the respective Wikipedia Village pumps. (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1) @Ashwin, the videos you, Nitika and Swaroop are working will be hardcore outreach videos to teach how to edit Wikipedia. @Konarak, thanks a lot buddy, let us get the footages and we would definitely seek your support for the post production. Moover, we would be more than happy if you lead the event to get the videos done in your place from the community members. @Srikanth, the final video will be in Commons and obviously with .ogv format. But the raw footage will be in .mov/avi/mpeg, they are the formats used before editing. After editing we will convert the final video into .ogv. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Subha, What about the Indian English Community? Noopur, Thanks for the ideas, but one small suggestion. Format- Keep it OGV. We can't be promoting an open
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Lol, what's up with you Noopur, finally you let that Matt bumped into India mailing list? :p On 23 February 2012 20:48, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Just for some motivation and amusement, watch this: *Where the hell is Matt? * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY Cheers Noopur On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Thanks a lot Swaroop, We are expecting more inputs from you guys, and please free to add/modify the questions wikipedians have to keep in mind ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1). I have also received responses from Pune and Ahemadabad communities. If you guys can shoot some videos at the end of the meet ups as there will be a gathering of wikipedians it will be good. We can make a prototype video to make the Indic language communities understand the way they need to make this video. Thanks Subha On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Swaroop Rao raul.swar...@gmail.comwrote: Swaroop Rao (MikeLynch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch) On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 20:38, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Let me clear this confusion. Dear Srikanth R, *please* attempt to read the ENTIRE mail. I suggested recording in a popular format because converting and editing ogv is a PAIN. And, it reduces video quality by two times. +1 to that. OGV, for all its openness, is a big pain to work on, especially for converting. Another thing, if we are to upload these videos to Commons, *obviously* we will have to convert them to open formats. So, no one is denying that. It is rather obvious and understood. So now that we have cleared confusions, can the SIGs and guys organizing meetups please raise hands? Will you guys be able to do such recording? *raises hand* I am willing to create such a video; I appreciate Subha's mail about what exactly to say, but it shouldn't be a boring, mechanical interview-style answering of questions. If it is to motivate others, it should be catchy (read ad-like). On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Well, that's the whole point. The final file to be hosted for public would be ogg and the backend work will involve raw file editing collected in different formats. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Subhashis exactly, you might know this, but Xiph (developers of .ogg /.ogv) doesn't even endorse .ogv. And .ogg can be used with Matroska. Though I'll convert the videos in .ogv. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:53:51 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia That sounds good Konarak, and apart from the loss of quality most handy cam users might not be aware of converting them to ogg, but once you convert raw footages to ogg there will be difficulty to edit, because normally the final avi/mpeg is converted to a open source format and uploaded in Commons. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey Srikanth, that's fine by me, twas just a suggestion, because in .ogv there is loss of quality due to compression. Subhashish, I will, in the Meetup, it's on 19th of feb. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:10:39 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Yes, they are also being invited to participated, it's about Indian Editors and Indian faces. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: And what about participation of the Indian English Community? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here are the answers I have to all of you. @Noopur: nice points, I am including them all and here is draft for the community which I will be posting in the respective Wikipedia Village pumps. (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1) @Ashwin, the videos you, Nitika and Swaroop are working will be hardcore outreach videos to teach how to edit Wikipedia. @Konarak, thanks a lot buddy, let us get the footages and we would definitely seek your support for the post production. Moover, we would be more than happy if you lead the event to get the videos done in your place from the community members. @Srikanth, the final video will be in Commons and obviously with .ogv format. But the raw footage will be in .mov/avi/mpeg, they are the formats used before editing. After editing we will convert the final video into .ogv. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote:
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Announcing live search for the Wikimedia projects
Like the work, probably except that tiny all rights reserved part. ;-) i hope developers will add some features to go directly to required site+lang+im without using select options (using query strings or something like ?project=wplang=mlim=tr). Just thinking loud because i have seen in similar cases that a user always wanted direct focus on input field for searching. On 23/02/2012, Tinu Cherian tinucher...@wikimedia.in wrote: Hi all, Greetings from Wikimedia India !!! We are proud to announce live search for the Wikimedia projects http://live.wikimedia.in. The site was developed by Shrey Gokani under guidance of Wikimedia India Chapter. We want to thank Shrey Gokani for volunteering to do this project and making this a reality. We also want to thank Santhosh Thottingal and Junaid P V for the contributions for this project. Special thanks to Naveen Francis for leading this initiative. How to use ? * Select your Wikimedia Project, say “Wikipedia” * Select language of the project to search, say “English” * Input your search string in the Search: Box * The site auto displays possible pages based on the string match. * The site is also integrated with Narayam to support Indic language search. So select the corresponding input method ( if available) while searching on a Indic Project. This is still a beta version and further improvements are needed. As of now, it supports only English and Indic Language projects. For further queries, reporting bugs and suggestions, please contact us :- socialme...@wikimedia.in Thanks, Tinu Cherian. Wikimedia India http://wiki.wikimedia.in -- With love Praveen http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Praveenp:talkhttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Announcing live search for the Wikimedia projects
That is the idea... ! Once it is stable, and the primary developer agrees, we will release this on an appropriate open source license. Thanks for all the feedback suggestions... Will definitely pass them to the development team -TC On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:44 PM, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: Like the work, probably except that tiny all rights reserved part. ;-) i hope developers will add some features to go directly to required site+lang+im without using select options (using query strings or something like ?project=wplang=mlim=tr). Just thinking loud because i have seen in similar cases that a user always wanted direct focus on input field for searching. On 23/02/2012, Tinu Cherian tinucher...@wikimedia.in wrote: Hi all, Greetings from Wikimedia India !!! We are proud to announce live search for the Wikimedia projects http://live.wikimedia.in. The site was developed by Shrey Gokani under guidance of Wikimedia India Chapter. We want to thank Shrey Gokani for volunteering to do this project and making this a reality. We also want to thank Santhosh Thottingal and Junaid P V for the contributions for this project. Special thanks to Naveen Francis for leading this initiative. How to use ? * Select your Wikimedia Project, say “Wikipedia” * Select language of the project to search, say “English” * Input your search string in the Search: Box * The site auto displays possible pages based on the string match. * The site is also integrated with Narayam to support Indic language search. So select the corresponding input method ( if available) while searching on a Indic Project. This is still a beta version and further improvements are needed. As of now, it supports only English and Indic Language projects. For further queries, reporting bugs and suggestions, please contact us :- socialme...@wikimedia.in Thanks, Tinu Cherian. Wikimedia India http://wiki.wikimedia.in -- With love Praveen http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Praveenp:talk http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Announcing live search for the Wikimedia projects
Can we get the transliterations there? For sanskrit only inscript is present and its difficult to search for anythings there... On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:10 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: That is the idea... ! Once it is stable, and the primary developer agrees, we will release this on an appropriate open source license. Thanks for all the feedback suggestions... Will definitely pass them to the development team -TC On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:44 PM, praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: Like the work, probably except that tiny all rights reserved part. ;-) i hope developers will add some features to go directly to required site+lang+im without using select options (using query strings or something like ?project=wplang=mlim=tr). Just thinking loud because i have seen in similar cases that a user always wanted direct focus on input field for searching. On 23/02/2012, Tinu Cherian tinucher...@wikimedia.in wrote: Hi all, Greetings from Wikimedia India !!! We are proud to announce live search for the Wikimedia projects http://live.wikimedia.in. The site was developed by Shrey Gokani under guidance of Wikimedia India Chapter. We want to thank Shrey Gokani for volunteering to do this project and making this a reality. We also want to thank Santhosh Thottingal and Junaid P V for the contributions for this project. Special thanks to Naveen Francis for leading this initiative. How to use ? * Select your Wikimedia Project, say “Wikipedia” * Select language of the project to search, say “English” * Input your search string in the Search: Box * The site auto displays possible pages based on the string match. * The site is also integrated with Narayam to support Indic language search. So select the corresponding input method ( if available) while searching on a Indic Project. This is still a beta version and further improvements are needed. As of now, it supports only English and Indic Language projects. For further queries, reporting bugs and suggestions, please contact us :- socialme...@wikimedia.in Thanks, Tinu Cherian. Wikimedia India http://wiki.wikimedia.in -- With love Praveen http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Praveenp:talk http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Praveenp ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Abhiram ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Languages on Wikipedia Android application
All the strings are translated (and fixed) to Bengali. Can anyone tell me when these will be updated to the app? On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Oh, cool. If i understand correctly, this means that your phone has a font, but with broken chillus, which is still better than nothing, but to actually make it work and show some Malayalam interface you have to use that app. I'll be very glad to hear more reports like this! 2012/2/23 Ramesh N G rames...@gmail.com: I set my android to to language ml. Only some of the icon in the apps turned Malayalam. But my News and Weather App turned completely ml. The photo editor and Video Maker app turned completely in Malayalam Language. Wikipedia app turned ml and default page set to ml page. I dont think i can attach the snapshot here. will try to upload in commons. But the ml Chillu Problem still exists. User:Rameshng On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: Blog post by GerardM on how to tweak your android device to support Indic languages: http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2012/02/trick-android-to-use-your-language.html Would be awesome if people here could test it on their device + language combination :) -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- *Nasir Khan Saikat http://profiles.google.com/nasir8891* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Languages on Wikipedia Android application
2012/2/23 Nasir Khan nasir8...@gmail.com: All the strings are translated (and fixed) to Bengali. Can anyone tell me when these will be updated to the app? Thank you very much. Version 1.1 of the app is going to be released soon and the new translations will be there. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-mum] Report on Mumbai Workshop 2
Slightly late in the day, but I thought it would be good to share this with everyone. A few days after we had the Workshop @ Text100, they blogged about it here: http://text100.com/hypertext/2012/01/wikipedia-for-pr/ From: wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimedia-in-...@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 04:38:22 + Subject: [Wikimedia-in-mum] Report on Mumbai Workshop 2 Moksh and I went to the Text100 office at Nariman Point on 6 January 2012. Aprox 25 people attended the Workshop in person which was webcast live to Text100 offices in Delhi and Bangalore. Through the 1 hour Workshop we covered the below and answered several questions raised by attendees. We covered the following: 1. Wikipedia Philosophy/5 Pillars (and that we do not have editorial control, that admins are nothing but editors with additional responsibilities. On what is done when there is an issue we explained the process upto Arbcom and that Jimbo has a veto which he has never used so far and has stated that he doesnt think he will). 2. Licensing (Explained Wikipedia is free licensed under CC-BY-SA) 3. What Wikipedia is NOT 4. NPOV/YESPOV 5. Be Bold and edit anything that is incorrect 6. Etiquette/AGF 7. Tutorial (Editing/Citations etc) 8. RS 9. CoI (Bell Pottinger affair) Moksh also gave a live editing example and we showed them how to sign on a page with 4 tides (the attendees had actually typed their names on the Wiki page for the workshop). One of the participants mentioned official company photos on Wikipedia articles. Explained that such photos on have been donated to Commons and suggested that Text100 could also donate their photo archives to Commons, which would be useful for several articles. They sounded positive on this aspect - will be following up with them on this. ___ Wikimedia-in-mum mailing list wikimedia-in-...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-mum ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
