[Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam
Dear all, These are my insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam. I have put them in form of some key questions. For me it was a brilliant learning experience. So, most of these answers are not mine, rather they have been generated as collaborative responses by various people from different chapters. I am grateful to WMF, WM-NL and WM-UK for their special interest in helping encourage GLAM participation in India. This is the link to the programs: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMcamp_Amsterdam#Schedule and in each session you will find an etherpad link to the live discussion! Why GLAMwiki is becoming all the more important? Flickr: popular mass upload tool but is no longer available; it has pending requests and flickr commons has no money to support more file sharing. Wikimedia Commons allows almost the same functions and metadata sharing, open licensing with a bonus Wikipedia link (something that institutions go by). Since most institutions don’t really know what Wikimedia or commons is, the Wikipedia name leverages partnerships and allows them similar archiving benefits. For us, it is also outreach. Common questions by GLAM institutions in other countries: - Why Wikipedia, why not our own website? Because of the abysmal disparity in web-view. Simply, Wikipedia is the 5thmost visited, gives far more visibility in web traffic as compared to your own website. However, integrating wikis and providing links is not hard either. So, it doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive. - This is complicated, is there an easier way to collaborate? Advice to GLAM and cultural/outreach people: Carry presentations (PPT), simple statistics, don’t go into metrics jargon, show in simple numbers, percentage, fractions how people can make a difference or vice versa. Use things like color coding, emphasize on the importance and seriousness of ‘free knowledge’, larger things that Wikipedia is also in service of. This helps people connect at different levels. Most importantly, break your hierarchies and trash your rule books (or make simpler ones that use less jargon). If you are concerned about quality editing there are two solutions (get content specific editathons and organize a Wiki academy EVERY week). What happens once partnership is over? How to sustain? This is why a GLAM coordinator is not simply a GLAM person. S/he is also someone who does massive outreach: Wikipedia takes your city; Wiki loves monuments, wikiacademies, PR and network building with local, regional and national resource persons outside the community. While in capacity as a fellow, the idea is also to do value addition, train employees (at least train in minor edits, article making, image uploading). Source one contact through another. (My take: As I see it, there has to be a crucial change in orientation. From exhaustive internal debates, discussions and tool building exercises, it has to move and adapt to the larger Open and free scene, involving people albeit on a temporary basis and expanding. Monopolizing Wikipedia as a city, state or indic language space is only going to create a highly concentrated yet a very niche community) - (Question asked to me) 52 cultural partnerships listed on GLAM request page, why not India? Frankly, I had no answers why. My hunch is that since traditionally science and technology oriented courses and vocations have been encouraged, few lay people really know their culture or feel as passionately about conservation. On the other hand, placement of government officials to unrelated departments (museums) included leaves them little motivation to go beyond their regular duties. On the other hand, there is also a large communication and visibility problem since Wikimeetups aren’t really a matter of common knowledge even to journalists. Wikimedia India really needs to carve out a place and get involved in academic and art spaces, have people just talk about their experiences, present smaller individual pilots (Sumanna) - Why no Indian participation in ‘This month in GLAM’? Because there is really no ‘Indian’ GLAM or ‘Indian’ community. As wonderful as the Indic language efforts are, it would be great if there were biannual national meet-ups, regional meets and more frequent local meets. Identify at least 4-5 cities that can act as pivotal regional meeting and resource points. This will also help generate smaller goals and activities and we can have our own newsletter as well as TMIG updates. - How do we identify, regulate and strengthen local community based interactions? Most important: Every chapter must have a national outreach coordinator. Have mandatory sections in agenda: Gender gap, Indic, English, GLAM, tools, updates, outreach. Invite guest speakers or professors who can give a talk or attend and that way get to see the internal workings of the local community. Try and concretize a press team, media releases, word of mouth, social networking channel so that every time
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs Consultants on WMF Staff page
hi, Don't think the role of chapter and foundation needs to be seperately discussed as it's best to leave it from situation to situation. Also, the community has to be proactive and not reactive in our criticism of either. Pradeep Handheld On 12/12/2011, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: AFAIK, They are Contractors, and not staff as such , due to the absense of legal structure for WMF in India And I believe they will become the staff of India Programme Trust , once it is on wheels (And since India Trust is not an official WMF body, they will not be WMF Staff) which is a nice segue to a question I've had - what is the/are the various Wikimedia presence working out of India ? For example, there's the India Chapter, there's the Trust etc. How do all of them fit together ? I apologize if this is a somewhat quirky question. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Pradeep Mohandas How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] IEP canceled for the next term
Hi, I just read from the IEP talk page in en wiki that IEP program has been cancelled for the next term. * I'm also surprised that you think we are ploughing ahead -- we are not. We canceled the program for the upcoming term so we could focus on fixing the problems.* - LiAnna Davis, GEP communications manager, WMF [1] In the same page, i see the first use of the failure word. from the organisers. (* I don't feel that we can say we've involved the community in determining why the Pune Pilot failed*). A page full of insights from interviews conducted with people involved ruminating on why the program failed has been added.[2] Looks finally we have gotten around to plainspeak and learning from mistakes. (I believe these interviews are separate from Tory Read's report, which is due on Jan 15.) It would have better if we had been informed here too, instead of having to dig through talk page discussions. Since IEP discussions have taken all over the place, please take care to make important announcements like this are made in all places where previous discussions have taken place - meta, en wiki project page, india list and INT noticeboard in India. ==Links== 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AIndia_Education_Program%2FAnalysisaction=historysubmitdiff=464252111oldid=464169635 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:India_Education_Program/Analysis/WMF_interviews ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam
Hey Pradeep and the rest of you, What I think was my biggest take away from the GLAMcamp is: GLAM and Outreach cannot be separated. Similar holds for expanding the India Wikipedia community. While doing Wikiacademy or workshops or clubs or meet-ups, the idea is to spread the word as much as encourage a culture of good editing. That is what these guys back at the camp take very seriously, every occasional meetup is a wonderful outreach opportunity! Let's talk more about that :) Warmly Noopur On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: hi, Thank you for your update, Noopur. Coming back with more good and concrete is great and the best way for the community to reflect. Personally, I think there are people right now who are focussed on building a new breed of editors through WikiAcademies and Wiki-Workshops. This seems to be happening in tech schools and not in art schools. Very few of the tech school junta might be interested in the arts or history. But, they can teach the arts school junta to edit and help them out. I think it is this cross-disciplinary editing that we need to foster more in the Indian community. There are people on this mailing list who are interested in participating in GLAM. I hope they respond to this thread and participate in the conversation. warm regards, Pradeep On 12/12/2011, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, These are my insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam. I have put them in form of some key questions. For me it was a brilliant learning experience. So, most of these answers are not mine, rather they have been generated as collaborative responses by various people from different chapters. I am grateful to WMF, WM-NL and WM-UK for their special interest in helping encourage GLAM participation in India. This is the link to the programs: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMcamp_Amsterdam#Schedule and in each session you will find an etherpad link to the live discussion! Why GLAMwiki is becoming all the more important? Flickr: popular mass upload tool but is no longer available; it has pending requests and flickr commons has no money to support more file sharing. Wikimedia Commons allows almost the same functions and metadata sharing, open licensing with a bonus Wikipedia link (something that institutions go by). Since most institutions don’t really know what Wikimedia or commons is, the Wikipedia name leverages partnerships and allows them similar archiving benefits. For us, it is also outreach. Common questions by GLAM institutions in other countries: - Why Wikipedia, why not our own website? Because of the abysmal disparity in web-view. Simply, Wikipedia is the 5thmost visited, gives far more visibility in web traffic as compared to your own website. However, integrating wikis and providing links is not hard either. So, it doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive. - This is complicated, is there an easier way to collaborate? Advice to GLAM and cultural/outreach people: Carry presentations (PPT), simple statistics, don’t go into metrics jargon, show in simple numbers, percentage, fractions how people can make a difference or vice versa. Use things like color coding, emphasize on the importance and seriousness of ‘free knowledge’, larger things that Wikipedia is also in service of. This helps people connect at different levels. Most importantly, break your hierarchies and trash your rule books (or make simpler ones that use less jargon). If you are concerned about quality editing there are two solutions (get content specific editathons and organize a Wiki academy EVERY week). What happens once partnership is over? How to sustain? This is why a GLAM coordinator is not simply a GLAM person. S/he is also someone who does massive outreach: Wikipedia takes your city; Wiki loves monuments, wikiacademies, PR and network building with local, regional and national resource persons outside the community. While in capacity as a fellow, the idea is also to do value addition, train employees (at least train in minor edits, article making, image uploading). Source one contact through another. (My take: As I see it, there has to be a crucial change in orientation. From exhaustive internal debates, discussions and tool building exercises, it has to move and adapt to the larger Open and free scene, involving people albeit on a temporary basis and expanding. Monopolizing Wikipedia as a city, state or indic language space is only going to create a highly concentrated yet a very niche community) - (Question asked to me) 52 cultural partnerships listed on GLAM request page, why not India? Frankly, I had no answers why. My hunch is that since traditionally science and technology oriented courses and vocations have been encouraged, few lay people really know
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] IEP canceled for the next term
hi Bala, Could we also have some idea on how we can help with the cleanup that was needed? Is there a category in which these articles are placed so that we can clean-up the articles? I have heard about the clean-up being needed and felt that I could offer some assistance. warm regards, Pradeep User:Prad2609 Handheld On 12/12/2011, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just read from the IEP talk page in en wiki that IEP program has been cancelled for the next term. * I'm also surprised that you think we are ploughing ahead -- we are not. We canceled the program for the upcoming term so we could focus on fixing the problems.* - LiAnna Davis, GEP communications manager, WMF [1] In the same page, i see the first use of the failure word. from the organisers. (* I don't feel that we can say we've involved the community in determining why the Pune Pilot failed*). A page full of insights from interviews conducted with people involved ruminating on why the program failed has been added.[2] Looks finally we have gotten around to plainspeak and learning from mistakes. (I believe these interviews are separate from Tory Read's report, which is due on Jan 15.) It would have better if we had been informed here too, instead of having to dig through talk page discussions. Since IEP discussions have taken all over the place, please take care to make important announcements like this are made in all places where previous discussions have taken place - meta, en wiki project page, india list and INT noticeboard in India. ==Links== 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AIndia_Education_Program%2FAnalysisaction=historysubmitdiff=464252111oldid=464169635 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:India_Education_Program/Analysis/WMF_interviews -- Pradeep Mohandas How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] IEP canceled for the next term
Hi Pradeep, Here is the CCI page for IEP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Contributor_copyright_investigations/Indian_Education_Program This page lists all known IEP students and their contribs. A CCI checker needs to go through the diffs provided, compare with the ref/google it and see whether it is copyvio or not. Take a look at CCI instructions and the various notations used and start with a small contrib to begin with. CCI people are usually helpful and correct new participants. regards Bala On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: hi Bala, Could we also have some idea on how we can help with the cleanup that was needed? Is there a category in which these articles are placed so that we can clean-up the articles? I have heard about the clean-up being needed and felt that I could offer some assistance. warm regards, Pradeep User:Prad2609 Handheld On 12/12/2011, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just read from the IEP talk page in en wiki that IEP program has been cancelled for the next term. * I'm also surprised that you think we are ploughing ahead -- we are not. We canceled the program for the upcoming term so we could focus on fixing the problems.* - LiAnna Davis, GEP communications manager, WMF [1] In the same page, i see the first use of the failure word. from the organisers. (* I don't feel that we can say we've involved the community in determining why the Pune Pilot failed*). A page full of insights from interviews conducted with people involved ruminating on why the program failed has been added.[2] Looks finally we have gotten around to plainspeak and learning from mistakes. (I believe these interviews are separate from Tory Read's report, which is due on Jan 15.) It would have better if we had been informed here too, instead of having to dig through talk page discussions. Since IEP discussions have taken all over the place, please take care to make important announcements like this are made in all places where previous discussions have taken place - meta, en wiki project page, india list and INT noticeboard in India. ==Links== 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AIndia_Education_Program%2FAnalysisaction=historysubmitdiff=464252111oldid=464169635 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:India_Education_Program/Analysis/WMF_interviews -- Pradeep Mohandas How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Dr. Sengai Podhuvan 's Appeal to Fund raising banners
Hi all, Just in case, you had missed Dr. Sengai Podhuvan's Appeal to Fund raising this year. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011#Dr._Sengai_Podhuvan_Appeal_December_10.2C_2011 http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/L11_1209_DS/en/US ( This appeal is shown only in US so far and may come to India users very soon). I was so privileged to have met him personally at the Chennai Wikimeetup2 way back in Nov 2010. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Chennai/Chennai2 Many others would have met him at Wikiconference Mumbai and he was also awarded Special mentions from Jury for NWR 2011 Sengai Podhuvan contributes primarily to Tamil Wiki, with more than 9700 edits ( 97% edits to Article main-space itself). http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pcount/index.php?name=Sengai+Podhuvanlang=tawiki=wikipedia I was also told he has started over 800+ articles in ta.wiki ( somebody correct me if i am wrong). ( http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pages/ isn't working for me) Regards Tinu Cherian ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Dr. Sengai Podhuvan 's Appeal to Fund raising banners
*800+ articles in ta.wiki* Yes through his account he has about 850 articles. The actual number is much more - near 1000 i think - as during his newbie days, he used to edit logged out often. On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 4:06 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, Just in case, you had missed Dr. Sengai Podhuvan's Appeal to Fund raising this year. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011#Dr._Sengai_Podhuvan_Appeal_December_10.2C_2011 http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/L11_1209_DS/en/US ( This appeal is shown only in US so far and may come to India users very soon). I was so privileged to have met him personally at the Chennai Wikimeetup2 way back in Nov 2010. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Chennai/Chennai2 Many others would have met him at Wikiconference Mumbai and he was also awarded Special mentions from Jury for NWR 2011 Sengai Podhuvan contributes primarily to Tamil Wiki, with more than 9700 edits ( 97% edits to Article main-space itself). http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pcount/index.php?name=Sengai+Podhuvanlang=tawiki=wikipediahttp://toolserver.org/%7Esoxred93/pcount/index.php?name=Sengai+Podhuvanlang=tawiki=wikipedia I was also told he has started over 800+ articles in ta.wiki ( somebody correct me if i am wrong). ( http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pages/ isn't working for me) Regards Tinu Cherian ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Dr. Sengai Podhuvan 's Appeal to Fund raising banners
Thanks Bala. It is 861 article creations from this account till date http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pages/index.php?name=Sengai+Podhuvanlang=tawiki=wikipedianamespace=0redirects=noredirectsgetall=1 -TC On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.comwrote: *800+ articles in ta.wiki* Yes through his account he has about 850 articles. The actual number is much more - near 1000 i think - as during his newbie days, he used to edit logged out often. On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 4:06 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just in case, you had missed Dr. Sengai Podhuvan's Appeal to Fund raising this year. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011#Dr._Sengai_Podhuvan_Appeal_December_10.2C_2011 http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/L11_1209_DS/en/US ( This appeal is shown only in US so far and may come to India users very soon). I was so privileged to have met him personally at the Chennai Wikimeetup2 way back in Nov 2010. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Chennai/Chennai2 Many others would have met him at Wikiconference Mumbai and he was also awarded Special mentions from Jury for NWR 2011 Sengai Podhuvan contributes primarily to Tamil Wiki, with more than 9700 edits ( 97% edits to Article main-space itself). http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pcount/index.php?name=Sengai+Podhuvanlang=tawiki=wikipediahttp://toolserver.org/%7Esoxred93/pcount/index.php?name=Sengai+Podhuvanlang=tawiki=wikipedia I was also told he has started over 800+ articles in ta.wiki ( somebody correct me if i am wrong). ( http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pages/ isn't working for me) Regards Tinu Cherian ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Dr. Sengai Podhuvan 's Appeal to Fund raising banners
Hi, During WCI, some of the Pune Wikipedians and Dr. Sengai Podhuvan were staying in the same hotel. We had a nice discussion with him while going to the conference. Great energy and huge experience he has!!. We are really privileged to have met him and interact with him. Nice to see him in the fund-raiser appeal. Best regards, -Sudhanwa On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 4:06 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just in case, you had missed Dr. Sengai Podhuvan's Appeal to Fund raising this year. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011#Dr._Sengai_Podhuvan_Appeal_December_10.2C_2011 http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/L11_1209_DS/en/US ( This appeal is shown only in US so far and may come to India users very soon). I was so privileged to have met him personally at the Chennai Wikimeetup2 way back in Nov 2010. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Chennai/Chennai2 Many others would have met him at Wikiconference Mumbai and he was also awarded Special mentions from Jury for NWR 2011 Sengai Podhuvan contributes primarily to Tamil Wiki, with more than 9700 edits ( 97% edits to Article main-space itself). http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pcount/index.php?name=Sengai+Podhuvanlang=tawiki=wikipedia I was also told he has started over 800+ articles in ta.wiki ( somebody correct me if i am wrong). ( http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pages/ isn't working for me) Regards Tinu Cherian ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! web: www.sudhanwa.com blog: www.sudhanwa.in Twitter: sudhanwa Check on FB, Linkedin for more. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Kolkata Bookfair 2012-Application submitted
Go Jayanta da +1000 -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place * On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Deepon Saha hideeponh...@gmail.com wrote: Will be there...:) On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Surya Prakash suryasalem2...@gmail.comwrote: Great efforts Jayanta. All the very best for your efforts. :) *$U®¥∩* http://goo.gl/RoMyo.com http://FirefoxSurya.blogspot.com http://about.me/suryaceg On 9 December 2011 10:31, Jayanta Nath jayanta...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Yesterday, 8 December 2011, the application was submitted (attached the receipt copy) by Mr Biswarup Ganguly, they mentioned as 'Late Receipt'. The application contained; 1. The cover letter. 2. Print out registration certificate. 3. en copy of the certificate. 3. Main page of Wikimedia Foundation site. 4. Main page of en. wikipedia 5. Main page of bn. wikipedia. 6. Main page of hi. wikipedia 7. Main page of Wikimedia Chapter. It is known that the will call a meeting for finalizing the contract at late December, 2011. With regards. -- With Warm Regards, *Jayanta Nath* Calcutta,West Bengal ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, These are my insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam. I have put them in form of some key questions. For me it was a brilliant learning experience. So, most of these answers are not mine, rather they have been generated as collaborative responses by various people from different chapters. I am grateful to WMF, WM-NL and WM-UK for their special interest in helping encourage GLAM participation in India. This is the link to the programs: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMcamp_Amsterdam#Schedule and in each session you will find an etherpad link to the live discussion! --cut-- Thanks Noopur for the detailed writeup. I am glad that you found it to be a great learning experience. Chapter is expected to play a key role in GLAM initiative, based on our discussion with Liam in the beginning of the year. We had some interactions with Dept of Public Libraries,Government of Karnataka and also Kannada Government Encyclopaedia project http://kanaja.in(digital library) Can you help seed some events around this? You can use the GLAMhttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/GLAMproject page on Wikimedia.in for sharing your thoughts and/or proposals. Cheers Arjuna Rao Chavala President, Wikimedia India ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Salem Wiki Workshop Report
A Wiki workshop in Salem was conducted on December 11, 2011 by the Tamil Wiki community. Paavadi Girls higher secondary school had graciously given their computer lab for this workshop. This was made possible by the efforts of an excellent newcomer to Tamil wiki projects - ParvathiSri, who is a school teacher in Salem. The workshop started sharply at 10 AM. Attendees included school teachers, students, college professors and Tamil enthusiasts. There were about 15 attendees in Total. Wikimedians ParvathiSri, Thagavaluzhavan, Sodabottle, Essar I spoke and conducted editing sessions. I gave a presentation on Wikipedia. In that session I covered 5 pillars of WP, reliability of WP, importance of references, tasks for a Wikipedian, benefits to a Wikipedian by editing WP. After that Thagavaluzhavan spoke about Wiktionary, where he used Ta Wiktionary to explain everything instead of using a presentation. He explained the multilingual nature of Wiktionary and the need for multimedia content in it. Next, Sodabottle explained the other sister projects - Wikisource, Wikinews, Wikibooks and Commons. He explained the necessity of content creation in mother tongues. A short introduction to the ongoing Tamil Wiki Media Contest (http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contesthttp://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/contest) was also given. Attendees didn't raise any questions in the QA session. But, they did ask many doubts in the hands-on session that followed. During the session the attendees taught about creating account, WP navigation, terminology, uploading file, using a file in an article, talking to another user. There were many questions raised in this session. We, Wikimedians clarified their doubts with clear explanations. Around 1 PM the workshop came to an end. Group photos were taken. As a part of Tamil Wiki Media Contest a small photo-walk had been arranged at the end. User Essar, User Thagavaluzhavan and I took photos all along the road sides of Salem Bazaar. ==Links== 1) Workshop page and talk page in ta wiki: Event pagehttp://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE:%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%9A%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D_11,_2011_%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%87%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B4%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE_%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%B1%E0%AF%88 Talk Pagehttp://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE_%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%87%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%81:%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%9A%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D_11,_2011_%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%87%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B4%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE_%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%B1%E0%AF%88 2) Images in commons http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedian_meetups_in_Salem,Dec2011 Thanks. *$U®¥∩* http://goo.gl/RoMyo.com http://FirefoxSurya.blogspot.com http://about.me/suryaceg ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam
Hey Noopur, lovely mail. This should be made part of the FAQ on the Wiki India Chapter website. I read about a massive GLAM collaboration in the UK with a Museum for the Hoxne Hoard, which is a Featured Article in English. The efforts to get info, photos etc, are documented in the Foundation Report of 2009 2010. I believe this is what we need to emulate in India simply because much of our culture and heritage is present and rotting in several museums and we can save it on Wiki. On 12/12/2011, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Pradeep and the rest of you, What I think was my biggest take away from the GLAMcamp is: GLAM and Outreach cannot be separated. Similar holds for expanding the India Wikipedia community. While doing Wikiacademy or workshops or clubs or meet-ups, the idea is to spread the word as much as encourage a culture of good editing. That is what these guys back at the camp take very seriously, every occasional meetup is a wonderful outreach opportunity! Let's talk more about that :) Warmly Noopur On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: hi, Thank you for your update, Noopur. Coming back with more good and concrete is great and the best way for the community to reflect. Personally, I think there are people right now who are focussed on building a new breed of editors through WikiAcademies and Wiki-Workshops. This seems to be happening in tech schools and not in art schools. Very few of the tech school junta might be interested in the arts or history. But, they can teach the arts school junta to edit and help them out. I think it is this cross-disciplinary editing that we need to foster more in the Indian community. There are people on this mailing list who are interested in participating in GLAM. I hope they respond to this thread and participate in the conversation. warm regards, Pradeep On 12/12/2011, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, These are my insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam. I have put them in form of some key questions. For me it was a brilliant learning experience. So, most of these answers are not mine, rather they have been generated as collaborative responses by various people from different chapters. I am grateful to WMF, WM-NL and WM-UK for their special interest in helping encourage GLAM participation in India. This is the link to the programs: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMcamp_Amsterdam#Schedule and in each session you will find an etherpad link to the live discussion! Why GLAMwiki is becoming all the more important? Flickr: popular mass upload tool but is no longer available; it has pending requests and flickr commons has no money to support more file sharing. Wikimedia Commons allows almost the same functions and metadata sharing, open licensing with a bonus Wikipedia link (something that institutions go by). Since most institutions don’t really know what Wikimedia or commons is, the Wikipedia name leverages partnerships and allows them similar archiving benefits. For us, it is also outreach. Common questions by GLAM institutions in other countries: - Why Wikipedia, why not our own website? Because of the abysmal disparity in web-view. Simply, Wikipedia is the 5thmost visited, gives far more visibility in web traffic as compared to your own website. However, integrating wikis and providing links is not hard either. So, it doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive. - This is complicated, is there an easier way to collaborate? Advice to GLAM and cultural/outreach people: Carry presentations (PPT), simple statistics, don’t go into metrics jargon, show in simple numbers, percentage, fractions how people can make a difference or vice versa. Use things like color coding, emphasize on the importance and seriousness of ‘free knowledge’, larger things that Wikipedia is also in service of. This helps people connect at different levels. Most importantly, break your hierarchies and trash your rule books (or make simpler ones that use less jargon). If you are concerned about quality editing there are two solutions (get content specific editathons and organize a Wiki academy EVERY week). What happens once partnership is over? How to sustain? This is why a GLAM coordinator is not simply a GLAM person. S/he is also someone who does massive outreach: Wikipedia takes your city; Wiki loves monuments, wikiacademies, PR and network building with local, regional and national resource persons outside the community. While in capacity as a fellow, the idea is also to do value addition, train employees (at least train in minor edits, article making, image uploading). Source one contact through another. (My take: As I see it, there has to be a crucial change in orientation. From exhaustive internal debates, discussions and tool building exercises, it
[Wikimediaindia-l] Call for participation in IEEE P1908.1 Virtual Keyboard Standard development for Indic languages
Hi Friends, Indic languages have an opportunity to gain their rightful place in the computing and communications world on par with English or other languages, with the availability of smart phones and tablet computers with touch user interface at lower price points. I have been involved in leading a study group on this topic for the last one year to develop the project proposal for virtual keyboard standard. I am glad to report that the project for development of standard has been approved by IEEE-SA on Dec 8, 2011. More details on this initiative are available at https://mentor.ieee.org/stds-india/bp/Indic_Virtual_Keyboards I seek your support and participation in this initiative. Cheers Arjuna Rao Chavala WG Chair, P1908.1 Virtual keyboard standard for Indic languages Twitter id: @arjunaraoc http://twitter.com/#%21/arjunaraoc ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Call for participation in IEEE P1908.1 Virtual Keyboard Standard development for Indic languages
I'm a bit confused Arjuna, is the study over or yet to begin? Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Friends, Indic languages have an opportunity to gain their rightful place in the computing and communications world on par with English or other languages, with the availability of smart phones and tablet computers with touch user interface at lower price points. I have been involved in leading a study group on this topic for the last one year to develop the project proposal for virtual keyboard standard. I am glad to report that the project for development of standard has been approved by IEEE-SA on Dec 8, 2011. More details on this initiative are available at https://mentor.ieee.org/stds-india/bp/Indic_Virtual_Keyboards I seek your support and participation in this initiative. Cheers Arjuna Rao Chavala WG Chair, P1908.1 Virtual keyboard standard for Indic languages Twitter id: @arjunaraoc http://twitter.com/#%21/arjunaraoc ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Call for participation in IEEE P1908.1 Virtual Keyboard Standard development for Indic languages
- Sent via mobile On Dec 12, 2011 7:18 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a bit confused Arjuna, is the study over or yet to begin? There has been some background work about the proposal and sharing of current status. The real work is about to begin. Cheers Arjuna Rao Chavala ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Call for participation in IEEE P1908.1 Virtual Keyboard Standard development for Indic languages
Hoi, The Wikimedia Localisation team has been very much active in this field and we have implemented the inscript one standard as well as other existing keyboard methods. We have met with CDAC and Red Hat about our current Narayam implementations and our and their future plans. Our notion is that using standard compliant and freely licensed technology is the way forward. On our road map there are the unknowns of how to support smart phones, tablet computers, not only for the official languages of India but for all of them including scripts .. We are very happy to participate in any project that has as its goal to create standardised input methods for any kind of device. We can provide an environment for testing; we can support experimental keyboard methods side by side at translatewiki.net. When things become stable, we are quite happy to expose the world to new standards on the WMF wikis. Is this the kind of support that would help you ? Thanks, Gerard On 12 December 2011 14:34, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Friends, Indic languages have an opportunity to gain their rightful place in the computing and communications world on par with English or other languages, with the availability of smart phones and tablet computers with touch user interface at lower price points. I have been involved in leading a study group on this topic for the last one year to develop the project proposal for virtual keyboard standard. I am glad to report that the project for development of standard has been approved by IEEE-SA on Dec 8, 2011. More details on this initiative are available at https://mentor.ieee.org/stds-india/bp/Indic_Virtual_Keyboards I seek your support and participation in this initiative. Cheers Arjuna Rao Chavala WG Chair, P1908.1 Virtual keyboard standard for Indic languages Twitter id: @arjunaraoc http://twitter.com/#%21/arjunaraoc ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Indian Language wikipedia Statistics – 2011 October
Dear All, I am sharing the statistical report of Indian language wiki projects for the month of 2011 October. It is available here. https://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/12/12/indian-language-wikipedia-statistics-october-2011/ Some interesting facts that I discovered this month are: - Nearly *4.3 crore* readers are there for all Indic language wikipedias! This number is huge and increased by nearly 1/3 in just 1 month! So Indic wikis has huge reader base. - Marathi wiki community has increased its active editor base by nearly 33% in just 1 month. - Sanskrit wikipedia has been amongst the shining stars of *all* Indic language wikipedias in terms of adding new articles (12 new articles every day in October) and edits per article (nearly 18 edits across all articles, old and new.) You can find more interesting facts from the report at https://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/12/12/indian-language-wikipedia-statistics-october-2011/ Shiju ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Call for participation in IEEE P1908.1 Virtual Keyboard Standard development for Indic languages
Hi, Response in line.. On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: Hoi, The Wikimedia Localisation team has been very much active in this field and we have implemented the inscript one standard as well as other existing keyboard methods. We have met with CDAC and Red Hat about our current Narayam implementations and our and their future plans. Our notion is that using standard compliant and freely licensed technology is the way forward. Thanks for the update. On our road map there are the unknowns of how to support smart phones, tablet computers, not only for the official languages of India but for all of them including scripts .. We are very happy to participate in any project that has as its goal to create standardised input methods for any kind of device. We can provide an environment for testing; we can support experimental keyboard methods side by side at translatewiki.net. When things become stable, we are quite happy to expose the world to new standards on the WMF wikis. Is this the kind of support that would help you ? Certainly! It will be a great opportunity to come up with virtual keyboard as required for each language with participation of the relevant users. Active indic language wikipedians can play a key role in this initiative. The proposed mode of standard development is open for participation by every one. Though for the final balloting and to decide on any alternatives, IEEE-SA membership will be needed, which again is being offered at reduced rates for Indians. The official Work Group will be kick off in January. I request interested people to subscribe to the mailing list of the initiativehttp://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=indic-input-stdsamp;A=1 . Cheers Arjuna Rao Chavala ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikita-l] Salem Wiki Workshop Report
On Dec 12, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Surya Prakash wrote: A Wiki workshop in Salem was conducted on December 11, 2011 by the Tamil Wiki community. Thanks for sharing this, Surya. Thank you to you and to ParvathiSri, Thagavaluzhavan, Sodabottle, Essar for your time and effort. It sounds like a wonderful session! I especially like the fact that you explained the basic ideas of Wikipedia first and then also had hands-on editing session. Sodabottle's part about why it's important to improve / increase local language content is an important point and it's great to see it was covered. Often times, something like this - even though it sounds very simple - is a powerful and critical part of the message. They way I often say it is that even if one might be conversant in English, more times than not, one counts and thinks and dreams in one's mother tongue. ...and the conversation at home over dinner is largely in the respective mother tongues. ...therefore the critical importance of Indic content. It'll be wonderful if folks who attended are kept in touch with so that they could get some hand holding as they start their journeys as newbies. Warmest Regards, hisham___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikita-l] Salem Wiki Workshop Report
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 17:55, Surya Prakash suryasalem2...@gmail.comwrote: A Wiki workshop in Salem was conducted on December 11, 2011 by the Tamil Wiki community Kudos to all behind this. I would call this mini conference, Sodabottle travelled from land of Cheras, Essar from land of Pandyas for this meetup/whatever. Also more awareness/outreach/meetups is required in tier-2 cities / towns and community(especially Indic will gain a lot from it). Please scroll down, mail isnt complete. 1) Workshop page and talk page in ta wiki: Event page http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE:%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%9A%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D_11,_2011_%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%87%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B4%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE_%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%B1%E0%AF%88 Talk Page http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE_%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%87%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%81:%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%9A%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D_11,_2011_%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%87%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B4%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE_%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%B1%E0%AF%88 This is why one needs ShortURL. Will this bug bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1450 ever get some attention that its due? Note:- Tamil Wiki generally uses tawp.inshortened URLs, there is an open bug in it, I thought we will wait for the official extension rather than spending time to fix it. I think its safe to assume that ShortURL will not see end of tunnel atleast for few more months, So I would look around fixing it. There seems no point in waiting for deployment. I am disappointed. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] 1st Wiki Academy, Jaya Engineering College, Bangalore
Subhashish, On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Wikimedia India chapter has organized a Wiki Academy in Jaya Engineering College in Chennai on 11 December 2011. The detailed summary below: --cut-- Thanks for a detailed summary and also more importantly on the potential for future opportunities with the organisation. - *Foundation of a Wiki-Club*: Prof. G. Prabhakaran, Computer Science dept brought a proposal for a Wiki-Club by engaging the Jaya FOSS volunteers which could organize recurrent Wiki events in the campus. The FOSS club is already interacting with many Open source academicians, speakers and researchers from major institutes like IIT, Madras. FOSS Activities in India is taking a progressive shape and it could be used for more collaborative Wiki initiatives to bring up more editors. The link below could be relevant http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedian_Student_Organizations Cheers Arjuna Rao Chavala ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Sharing insights and experiences from Indian language wiki communities - Kannada
Hindi, sadly is scaring them away. Srikanth, do you have any specific example/experience that made you to say so? Shiju On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Agree with Logic. Each community differs in every way. Needs, usage, exposure and more. Each community, while running on a common backend, must have a different frontend. Tamil is doing its best from what I've seen to be different and get new editors. Hindi, sadly is scaring them away. Kannada must ensure new editor retention. On 11/12/2011, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 04:18, Jessie Wild jw...@wikimedia.org wrote: I just got off the phone with a wonderful woman who works for EDC India who was asking me how she could participate in Kannada Wikipedia editing. Obviously I can just direct her to the homepage of kn-wiki, but is there somewhere she could go to get some coaching to begin? She's never edited before, but is fluent in English too and wants to increase the educational content. The answer is above. I think communities must use front page much more effectively. There are many communities which don't update front page regularly, still keep it similar to English Wikipedia, wasting(IMO) some space. Instead, they could redesign front page to allocate significant space for attracting newbies. -- Regards Srikanth.L -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Dr. Sengai Podhuvan 's Appeal to Fund raising banners
Tinu, for a man his age, 861 Edits is marvellous. Let up try to find more people like him. On 12/12/2011, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: Hi, During WCI, some of the Pune Wikipedians and Dr. Sengai Podhuvan were staying in the same hotel. We had a nice discussion with him while going to the conference. Great energy and huge experience he has!!. We are really privileged to have met him and interact with him. Nice to see him in the fund-raiser appeal. Best regards, -Sudhanwa On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 4:06 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just in case, you had missed Dr. Sengai Podhuvan's Appeal to Fund raising this year. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011#Dr._Sengai_Podhuvan_Appeal_December_10.2C_2011 http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/L11_1209_DS/en/US ( This appeal is shown only in US so far and may come to India users very soon). I was so privileged to have met him personally at the Chennai Wikimeetup2 way back in Nov 2010. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Chennai/Chennai2 Many others would have met him at Wikiconference Mumbai and he was also awarded Special mentions from Jury for NWR 2011 Sengai Podhuvan contributes primarily to Tamil Wiki, with more than 9700 edits ( 97% edits to Article main-space itself). http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pcount/index.php?name=Sengai+Podhuvanlang=tawiki=wikipedia I was also told he has started over 800+ articles in ta.wiki ( somebody correct me if i am wrong). ( http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pages/ isn't working for me) Regards Tinu Cherian ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! web: www.sudhanwa.com blog: www.sudhanwa.in Twitter: sudhanwa Check on FB, Linkedin for more. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Call for participation in IEEE P1908.1 Virtual Keyboard Standard development for Indic languages
Arjuna, while I don't really understand what is the ultimate aim, I sincerely hope that this will result in Indic support across mobile devices. On 12/12/2011, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a bit confused Arjuna, is the study over or yet to begin? Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Friends, Indic languages have an opportunity to gain their rightful place in the computing and communications world on par with English or other languages, with the availability of smart phones and tablet computers with touch user interface at lower price points. I have been involved in leading a study group on this topic for the last one year to develop the project proposal for virtual keyboard standard. I am glad to report that the project for development of standard has been approved by IEEE-SA on Dec 8, 2011. More details on this initiative are available at https://mentor.ieee.org/stds-india/bp/Indic_Virtual_Keyboards I seek your support and participation in this initiative. Cheers Arjuna Rao Chavala WG Chair, P1908.1 Virtual keyboard standard for Indic languages Twitter id: @arjunaraoc http://twitter.com/#%21/arjunaraoc ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Towards improving infrastructure or resource people on Wikipedia
Pradeep has come up with a wonderful idea. We do need networking and expertise in every field possible. I see this need not just in the activities he mentions but for the very basic task of editing too. Every one has faced the problems while editing on Indian topics. We lack images - try finding out of copyright images of India's contemporary painters and their works? Reliable sources are difficult to find. How many of us have access across a pay-wall or into a database? How many of us can find someone to make a diagram, a recording, a spoken version? On many occasions these skills/items/opportunities may be available, not in our city but elsewhere. We need networking and effort to get resources which we can use. So I feel that Pradeep's ideas can best be brought into fruition by pooling our knowledge, skills, resources, effort together. We need a kind of Cooperation Central for Indian Wikipedians where we can ask for help and get it. We need to list our expertise in the field of knowledge - if I'm an expert on the military, there must be a way for you to find me and ask for help and advice on military matters . If I hold a whole collection of books, I do by the way - there must be some way for you to know what I hold so that you can ask me about it. If I have a useful skill, eg in making diagrams, ability to provide references or to guide anyone in GAN, FAR or DYK, you must be able to find me and ask. The challenge is how to make all this a reality. For that we will surely need to overcome the latent inertia which characterises us Indians in so many ways. And we can only do that by being more bold, more helpful, more cooperative, one edit at a time. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: hi, We must encourage having resouce persons who can help us with various things and who are networked. We need multiple people who are capable of building the community using these resources. Specifically, we need more people who can communicate with the media, with social media (I know the sterling job that Tinu does in this area, but more hands, do not hurt), with setting up internet infrastructure, having more coders, having more people who are aware of the legal aspects, having more people who are aware of copyright, who are aware of workings in the Government and the Police. Such people may currently exist in each city through personal networks currently, but it might help for a growing community like Wikipedia's to have them in multiple places. I am not sure if this makes sense, but in short, what I mean is that we must now, as a community work towards infrastructure building that will support the community. warm regards, Pradeep Mohandas -- Pradeep Mohandas How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Towards improving infrastructure or resource people on Wikipedia
Interestingly this was what you and I spoke about over the phone today. I think this should be of the highest priority. If the chapter and foundation are unable to focus on this it becomes the responsibility of the community aka us, to take forward such an initiative. We shall talk more on this soon Pradeep. What you have said could very well accelerate the growth of the movement in India, organically. On 12/12/11, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: hi, We must encourage having resouce persons who can help us with various things and who are networked. We need multiple people who are capable of building the community using these resources. Specifically, we need more people who can communicate with the media, with social media (I know the sterling job that Tinu does in this area, but more hands, do not hurt), with setting up internet infrastructure, having more coders, having more people who are aware of the legal aspects, having more people who are aware of copyright, who are aware of workings in the Government and the Police. Such people may currently exist in each city through personal networks currently, but it might help for a growing community like Wikipedia's to have them in multiple places. I am not sure if this makes sense, but in short, what I mean is that we must now, as a community work towards infrastructure building that will support the community. warm regards, Pradeep Mohandas -- Pradeep Mohandas How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Towards improving infrastructure or resource people on Wikipedia
I would like to stress again that what we need first is to interconnect ourselves. We, at various Indic Wikipedias, are still working very much on our own home islands! Images, references, PR personnel, media - Among various Indic Wikipedias, we have a lot that can be shared together. Beyond the singular difference of native language, our needs, ends and means are mostly same. [Not to mention that (in.en.wiki*) is automatically a subset of (in.wiki*)] So, let us think aloud how to interconnect ourselves more systematically and collectively. Though many may have reservations in using social networking as a tool, we at Malayalam Wikipedia have been using Facebook, Blogs, Google Buzz/Plus/ Docs/Maps/Calendar etc. somewhat effectively to improve and accelerate content and quality of ml.wiki*. (As an example, see this spreadsheet (Geodesic Coords for ml.wikipedia)https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_UShl=en_USkey=0AkzufXP7aCjEdGxvdmw5U2VwTThiUFVLZjVVWVY0dUEoutput=html, It has been just created today as an upcoming collaboration tool for GeoTagging our articles in a massive way. We envisage that the same data can be later shared with other Wikipedias in some automated way. If only we had a larger national network, we could achieve this much faster and wider!!) *What if we setup some similar acts for Inter-Indic Wiki friendship circles (Where every in.wiki user can join and share their problems, solutions and ideas)?* Viswam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Viswaprabha http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Viswaprabha On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 23:20, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Interestingly this was what you and I spoke about over the phone today. I think this should be of the highest priority. If the chapter and foundation are unable to focus on this it becomes the responsibility of the community aka us, to take forward such an initiative. We shall talk more on this soon Pradeep. What you have said could very well accelerate the growth of the movement in India, organically. On 12/12/11, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: hi, We must encourage having resouce persons who can help us with various things and who are networked. We need multiple people who are capable of building the community using these resources. Specifically, we need more people who can communicate with the media, with social media (I know the sterling job that Tinu does in this area, but more hands, do not hurt), with setting up internet infrastructure, having more coders, having more people who are aware of the legal aspects, having more people who are aware of copyright, who are aware of workings in the Government and the Police. Such people may currently exist in each city through personal networks currently, but it might help for a growing community like Wikipedia's to have them in multiple places. I am not sure if this makes sense, but in short, what I mean is that we must now, as a community work towards infrastructure building that will support the community. warm regards, Pradeep Mohandas -- Pradeep Mohandas How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Call for participation in IEEE P1908.1 Virtual Keyboard Standard development for Indic languages
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Arjuna, while I don't really understand what is the ultimate aim, I sincerely hope that this will result in Indic support across mobile devices. Indic support from rendering and input method point of view is currently available on some mobile devices. Some virtual keyboards are using phonetic approach which use English keyboard. Some others are following an adhoc modification to INSCRIPT. There are some vendors with patented solutions for 12 key interface. But there is no standard of virtual keyboard for touch interface, which makes it easy even for a class 1 student of indic language to type his name for example. This initiative is aimed at bridging that gap. Once the standard is approved, indic support in a standardized way should be available on most smart phones and tablets. Since it will be packaged as mobile app, it can be deployed on even older version of smart phones with touch interface. Hope this helps. Cheers Arjun On 12/12/2011, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a bit confused Arjuna, is the study over or yet to begin? Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Friends, Indic languages have an opportunity to gain their rightful place in the computing and communications world on par with English or other languages, with the availability of smart phones and tablet computers with touch user interface at lower price points. I have been involved in leading a study group on this topic for the last one year to develop the project proposal for virtual keyboard standard. I am glad to report that the project for development of standard has been approved by IEEE-SA on Dec 8, 2011. More details on this initiative are available at https://mentor.ieee.org/stds-india/bp/Indic_Virtual_Keyboards I seek your support and participation in this initiative. Cheers Arjuna Rao Chavala WG Chair, P1908.1 Virtual keyboard standard for Indic languages Twitter id: @arjunaraoc http://twitter.com/#%21/arjunaraoc ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Dr. Sengai Podhuvan 's Appeal to Fund raising banners
Not 861 edits, Dr. Sengai Podhuvan started 861+ articles in Ta.wiki. ( Given that he started as an IP user, the actual count is much more, as Bala said). A similar contributor I can think of is G. Balachandran ( User:BabuG) from ml.wiki, whom I got featured in this Telegraph article. http://www.telegraphindia.com/1110911/jsp/7days/story_14492284.jsp Seventy-three-year old G. Balachandran from Paravur, Kerala, has a different story to tell. Paralysed for nearly two decades, this retired junior commissioned officer of the Indian Army got a new lease of life, thanks to Wikipedia. When his son presented him with a laptop, Balachandran started contributing to Wikipedia in Malayalam. “Wikipedia not only helped me rediscover myself, but also gave me the strength to fight my condition,” says Balachandran, who has contributed nearly 100 articles to the Malayalam Wikipedia since 2008 and has more than 2,000 edits to his credit. Having heard of him for some time, I was fortunate privileged to meet another Wikimedian stalwart recently. He makes sells food snacks during the day and contributes to an Indian language Wiktionary on a donated computer during his free time. He is one of the biggest contributors to that project.Some of you might know him, but I am not sharing his name on this list for obvious reasons. When I meet people like them, I personally feel dwarfed standing before them. I can never match their passion and commitment for the movement. I feel I have done/doing nothing when i compare myself to these people. These are the kind of people that makes me continue to stay in the movement. Regards Tinu Cherian On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Tinu, for a man his age, 861 Edits is marvellous. Let up try to find more people like him. On 12/12/2011, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: Hi, During WCI, some of the Pune Wikipedians and Dr. Sengai Podhuvan were staying in the same hotel. We had a nice discussion with him while going to the conference. Great energy and huge experience he has!!. We are really privileged to have met him and interact with him. Nice to see him in the fund-raiser appeal. Best regards, -Sudhanwa On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 4:06 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just in case, you had missed Dr. Sengai Podhuvan's Appeal to Fund raising this year. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011#Dr._Sengai_Podhuvan_Appeal_December_10.2C_2011 http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/L11_1209_DS/en/US ( This appeal is shown only in US so far and may come to India users very soon). I was so privileged to have met him personally at the Chennai Wikimeetup2 way back in Nov 2010. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Chennai/Chennai2 Many others would have met him at Wikiconference Mumbai and he was also awarded Special mentions from Jury for NWR 2011 Sengai Podhuvan contributes primarily to Tamil Wiki, with more than 9700 edits ( 97% edits to Article main-space itself). http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pcount/index.php?name=Sengai+Podhuvanlang=tawiki=wikipedia I was also told he has started over 800+ articles in ta.wiki ( somebody correct me if i am wrong). ( http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pages/ isn't working for me) Regards Tinu Cherian ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! web: www.sudhanwa.com blog: www.sudhanwa.in Twitter: sudhanwa Check on FB, Linkedin for more. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Sent from my mobile device Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Call for participation in IEEE P1908.1 Virtual Keyboard Standard development for Indic languages
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Arjuna, while I don't really understand what is the ultimate aim, I sincerely hope that this will result in Indic support across mobile devices. Traditionally, on the desktop devices, Indic support has generally meant the ability to do the following: - display/render - print - input The underlying software architecture, which is fashionably called the plumbing, has been present and keeps lock-step with the currently available and published standards and specifications. Input forms an interesting aspect because of the diverse nature of possibilities provided and requested - an example could be the variety of the keyboard layouts available. While a myriad variety in the keyboard layouts is possible on a standard physical keyboard (hardware), such variety is a bit difficult to attain on the mobile device hardware having an actual physical keyboard. Even in the case of mobile devices with an on-screen keyboard, the ability to standardize on a specific set of layouts, based on various factors (eg. computation of the highest used key combinations) would be of immense use. At this stage, the only aspect I'd request to be made clear is how does one participate in the effort. For example, reading through the current list of participants I don't see Google (as an example). It would be nicer to have distributions participate because they allow the quickest path to reference implementation of standards. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Call for participation in IEEE P1908.1 Virtual Keyboard Standard development for Indic languages
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:39 AM, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Arjuna, while I don't really understand what is the ultimate aim, I sincerely hope that this will result in Indic support across mobile devices. Traditionally, on the desktop devices, Indic support has generally meant the ability to do the following: - display/render - print - input The underlying software architecture, which is fashionably called the plumbing, has been present and keeps lock-step with the currently available and published standards and specifications. Input forms an interesting aspect because of the diverse nature of possibilities provided and requested - an example could be the variety of the keyboard layouts available. While a myriad variety in the keyboard layouts is possible on a standard physical keyboard (hardware), such variety is a bit difficult to attain on the mobile device hardware having an actual physical keyboard. Even in the case of mobile devices with an on-screen keyboard, the ability to standardize on a specific set of layouts, based on various factors (eg. computation of the highest used key combinations) would be of immense use. Thanks for the nice explanation. At this stage, the only aspect I'd request to be made clear is how does one participate in the effort. For example, reading through the current list of participants I don't see Google (as an example). It would be nicer to have distributions participate because they allow the quickest path to reference implementation of standards. I have reached out to most people who have interest in this area. We will be publicizing this initiative more vigorously, now that the project is approved. The proposed mode of standard development is open for participation by every one. Though for the final balloting and to decide on any alternatives, IEEE-SA membership will be needed, which again is being offered at reduced rates for Indians. The official Work Group will be kicked off in January. I request interested people to subscribe to the mailing list of the initiativehttp://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=indic-input-stdsA=1 . Cheers Arjuna Rao Chavala ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Dr. Sengai Podhuvan 's Appeal to Fund raising banners
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 22:50, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Let up try to find more people like him. 1. en:User:Nvvchar (~75) :- Some of us first met him at Tinu's residence on 3rd Bangalore meetup. He retired from Wikipedia just a couple of days before conference citing ill health and had been creating DYK for sometime and have done over 500 of them. He was the inspiration for me to write my first DYK and then the DYK apps. 2. ta/en:User:Profvk (84) :- If you thought Dr. Sengai Podhuvan is the eldest contributor in Tamil Wikipedia, you are wrong. Profvk writes mathematics / Hinduism related articles on Tamil Wikipedia English Wikipedia. He was also about to attend WikiConference and had submitted this proposal[3], we tried everything possible to have him, but he had to pull out last minute due to illness.We hope he gets healthy and comes back soon. Please share more stories! [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nvvchar [2] http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Profvk [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Submissions/A_new_scientific_India -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam
Hello all :) I am glad you liked it and yes, I will post updates on the page. I am in talks with someone from a relatively big museum but am taking it carefully because these things, as you know, are very delicate. I might require the chapter's support and preferably someone from the chapter or foundation who is in Delhi. This will be sometime in January first week. SO, I urge you all to stick around AND, most importantly speak up. I only see a couple of names over and over and I am sure there are more people who agree or disagree. *Also, if you guys from the chapter saw the bit on regular meet-ups, do consider a zonal organisation for India as a community. Everyone kept asking me how this big a country manages to have a single chapter for all. Let's make nodal points and have newsletters or updates. I can volunteer to make a newsletter! * Warmly Noopur PS. (thanks Srikanth R. and Arjuna :) ) On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Noopur, lovely mail. This should be made part of the FAQ on the Wiki India Chapter website. I read about a massive GLAM collaboration in the UK with a Museum for the Hoxne Hoard, which is a Featured Article in English. The efforts to get info, photos etc, are documented in the Foundation Report of 2009 2010. I believe this is what we need to emulate in India simply because much of our culture and heritage is present and rotting in several museums and we can save it on Wiki. On 12/12/2011, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Pradeep and the rest of you, What I think was my biggest take away from the GLAMcamp is: GLAM and Outreach cannot be separated. Similar holds for expanding the India Wikipedia community. While doing Wikiacademy or workshops or clubs or meet-ups, the idea is to spread the word as much as encourage a culture of good editing. That is what these guys back at the camp take very seriously, every occasional meetup is a wonderful outreach opportunity! Let's talk more about that :) Warmly Noopur On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: hi, Thank you for your update, Noopur. Coming back with more good and concrete is great and the best way for the community to reflect. Personally, I think there are people right now who are focussed on building a new breed of editors through WikiAcademies and Wiki-Workshops. This seems to be happening in tech schools and not in art schools. Very few of the tech school junta might be interested in the arts or history. But, they can teach the arts school junta to edit and help them out. I think it is this cross-disciplinary editing that we need to foster more in the Indian community. There are people on this mailing list who are interested in participating in GLAM. I hope they respond to this thread and participate in the conversation. warm regards, Pradeep On 12/12/2011, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, These are my insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam. I have put them in form of some key questions. For me it was a brilliant learning experience. So, most of these answers are not mine, rather they have been generated as collaborative responses by various people from different chapters. I am grateful to WMF, WM-NL and WM-UK for their special interest in helping encourage GLAM participation in India. This is the link to the programs: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMcamp_Amsterdam#Schedule and in each session you will find an etherpad link to the live discussion! Why GLAMwiki is becoming all the more important? Flickr: popular mass upload tool but is no longer available; it has pending requests and flickr commons has no money to support more file sharing. Wikimedia Commons allows almost the same functions and metadata sharing, open licensing with a bonus Wikipedia link (something that institutions go by). Since most institutions don’t really know what Wikimedia or commons is, the Wikipedia name leverages partnerships and allows them similar archiving benefits. For us, it is also outreach. Common questions by GLAM institutions in other countries: - Why Wikipedia, why not our own website? Because of the abysmal disparity in web-view. Simply, Wikipedia is the 5thmost visited, gives far more visibility in web traffic as compared to your own website. However, integrating wikis and providing links is not hard either. So, it doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive. - This is complicated, is there an easier way to collaborate? Advice to GLAM and cultural/outreach people: Carry presentations (PPT), simple statistics, don’t go into metrics jargon, show in simple numbers, percentage, fractions how people can make a difference or vice versa. Use things like color coding, emphasize on the importance
