Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Android ICS support for Tamil and Indic languages

[apvr]

Android ICS does not natively support rendering of Tamil, Devanagiri
and Bengali scripts. It just supports the fonts. Rendering depends on
individual apps. This is a clever move from Google to increase the
native browser usage. They've implemented font rendering in the
stock browser; firefox still shows the compound characters wrongly.
Facebook app renders correctly too.

Vijay

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Android ICS support for Tamil and Indic languages

[ePandit | ई-पण्डित]

Yes, this keyboard app works in all of these (the phone should display
Hindi properly).

2011/12/23 Srikanth Ramakrishnan 

> ePandit,
> Does this work on Android Eclaire, Froyo, and Gingerbread?  These
> three are used extensively in India.
>
> On 12/22/11, ePandit | ई-पण्डित  wrote:
> > This is an exciting news. We were waiting for Indic languages support for
> > many years. This will make possible the reach of Indic support ready
> phones
> > and tablets to every Indian.
> >
> > Text input is certainly not a problem, there are many apps which do this
> > perfectly. One of them is MultiLing Keyboard
> >
> > Search *MultiLing Keyboard* in android market, install and select your
> > language in settings.
> >
> > 2011/12/23 Yuvi Panda 
> >
> >> +1. A lot of my classmates use Android, and they're definitely not
> 'elite'
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
> >>  wrote:
> >> > Srikanth, Android is not like Windows, where you get the latest
> >> > version and install. You can upgrade only if your device manufacturer
> >> > offers one. My dads Dell runs on 2.1 which cannot be upgraded. My
> >> > sister uses an Optimus which runs on 2.2 and can be upgraded to 2.3.
> >> > Also, Android is no longer ELITE. Android devices are available for as
> >> > low as 6k. The Dell, I mentioned earlier now retails for less than 6K.
> >> >
> >> > On 12/22/11, Srikanth Lakshmanan  wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 16:23, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
> >> >> parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Majority of India that uses Android uses v2.x
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> That "Majority" is elite enough to upgrade sooner IMHO.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Regards
> >> >> Srikanth.L
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
> >> > Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th.
> >> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
> >> >
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> > ~~~
> > *If u can't beat them, join them.*
> >
> > ePandit :* *http://epandit.shrish.in/
> >
>
>
> --
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> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] NDTV stealing photographs off the internet.

[Arjun Mangol Kanoth]

Image response -
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.eatliver.com/img/2008/3428.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.eatliver.com/i.php%3Fn%3D3428&h=500&w=700&sz=55&tbnid=qyIEuUp6IFLEsM:&tbnh=96&tbnw=135&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dpiracy%2Bvs%2Bstealing%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=piracy+vs+stealing&docid=25-EFIeDhe5c5M&sa=X&ei=yHj1TrOXOYT_8gOeocjVAQ&ved=0CCkQ9QEwAQ&dur=691


Cheers!

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Gautam John wrote:

> On 24 December 2011 10:41, Gautam John  wrote:
>
> >> Fair use applies when no other options available.  In case of CC,
> >> options are wide open. If somebody decides to override a CC licensed
> >> file with a fair use, it is a clear Copy Vio.
>
> > Ummm, no. Not to the best of my knowledge.
>
>
> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FAQ#Do_Creative_Commons_licenses_affect_fair_use.2C_fair_dealing_or_other_exceptions_to_copyright.3F
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best,
>
> Gautam
> 
> http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-WB] Kolkata Photo Walk (Esplanade & Dalhousie)

[wheredevelsdare]

Thanks for bringing this up Ashwin (and for the detailed feedback). If the 
images are not named properly, people will not be able to recognise them, which 
makes the whole exercise useless.

Can I suggest, now that the images have been uploaded such, the uploaders 
update the image summary with details of each image, so that people outside 
Kolkata can identify images and use them where required.

Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 00:41:10 +0530
From: ashwin.bain...@gmail.com
To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
CC: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-WB] Kolkata Photo Walk (Esplanade 
& Dalhousie)

Hi,

First of all many thanks to our Calcutta brethren  for conducting this photo 
walk and many thanks for uploading the images to Commons. Such events will 
greatly help our country's herittage buildings, architecture, landmarks etc be 
preserved.


After trying a quick & dirty look up with the results of your wonderful event,  
some points come to mind.

1. NAMING OF IMAGES - . The images with building names included in name are 
very useful & easily locatable


eg : 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Aayakar_Bhawan_-_Kolkata_2011-12-18_0067.JPG

Images named in the following manner are not at all useful to find the building 
concerned


eg : File:Wikimedia_Photowalk_-_Kolkata_2011-12-18_(32).JPG

especially since about 150 of these are so named.

2. CATEGORISATION - Images need to be categorised otherwise the images cannot 
be located/used by those who dont know where to look for them.


3. ARTICLE USAGE - Tried to see what has stubs/images on English Wikipedia  -

1. Shahid Minar - No link. [[Shaheed Minar]] of Bangladesh not India
2. Metropolitan Building - [[Metropolitan Building (Minneapolis0]] not Kolkata

3. Tipu Sultan Mosque - [[Tipu Sultan Mosque]], image already available
4. Victoria House - no article
5. Statesman House - no article but an image may be added (when located) to 
[[The_Statesman]]


6. Aaykar Bhawan - no stub
7. Great Eastern Hotel - can be added to 
[[Places_of_interest_in_Kolkata#Historic_hotels]]
8. Central Telegraph Office - page for CTO Colombo & London but not for Mumbai 
& Kolkata

9. National Assurance Building - no building
10. Junior Staff Quarters of the Governor11. Raj Bhawan - can be added to 
[[Raj_Bhavan_(West_Bengal)]]

12. St. John's Church - Meerut & Secunderabad pictured for India only
13. General Post Office - can be added to [[General_Post_Office,_Kolkata]]
14. Kolkata Collectorate - no article

15. Writers' Building - [[Writers'_Building]]
16. St. Andrews Chapel - no article

4. STUB IMPROVEMENT - Many buildings have no stubs. These need to be made. 
Others need references, geo-code, images, etc.


Hope this feedback is useful in some way.
Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
--



On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Kalyan Sarkar  wrote:


We met at the foot of Shahid Minar at 7AM in the morning. It was a bit foggy 
and chilly. We are enjoying an early winter chill and record low temperatures 
in Kolkata this year. After enjoying a steaming cup of tea at the CSTC Canteen 
and began our walk.


ROUTEWe crossed the J.L.Nehru Road and Lenin Sarani crossing and took Bentinck 
Street. Then we took left along the Waterloo Street, reaching the Great Eastern 
Hotel, we took right along the Hemanta Basu Sarani to B.B.D.Bagh Square. Then 
we proceeded along B.B.D.Bagh Sarani and took left turn to Red Cross Place to 
reach the entrance of Raj Bhawan. From there we proceeded along the Government 
Place to St John's Church and took right along Council House Street and Netaji 
Subhash Road and ended at the  Writers Buildings.


MONUMENTSWe covered the following monuments.1. Shahid Minar2. Metropolitan 
Building3. Tipu Sultan Mosque4. Victoria House5. Statesman House

6. Aaykar Bhawan7. Great Eastern Hotel8. Central Telegraph Office9. National 
Assurance Building10. Junior Staff Quarters of the Governor11. Raj Bhawan

12. St. John's Church13. General Post Office14. Kolkata Collectorate15. 
Writers' Building16. St. Andrews Chapel
STATUES1. Lenin

2. Asutosh Mookerjee3. Prafulla Chaki4. Dr. Bidhan Chandra Roy5. Binay Badal 
Dinesh






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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] NDTV stealing photographs off the internet.

[Gautam John]

On 24 December 2011 10:41, Gautam John  wrote:

>> Fair use applies when no other options available.  In case of CC,
>> options are wide open. If somebody decides to override a CC licensed
>> file with a fair use, it is a clear Copy Vio.

> Ummm, no. Not to the best of my knowledge.

http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FAQ#Do_Creative_Commons_licenses_affect_fair_use.2C_fair_dealing_or_other_exceptions_to_copyright.3F

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Open Wiki GLAM of Serbia: Conference - Call for participation

[CherianTinu Abraham]

There is some problem with the id   g...@vikimedija.org

Meanwhile you can write to Mile Kish directly at m.mi...@gmail.com or
mil...@vikimedija.org  ( Note that it is vikimedija.org )

Regards
Tinu Cherian


On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Adethya Sudarsanan
wrote:

> Anirudh,
>
> the link present is not valid i guess... mails sent to "You can send your
> applications at g...@vikimedija.org" fails. I tried sending it to "
> g...@wikimedia.org" and there was no failure notice.
>
> Am i doing the right thing? Pls advice. I want to participate in GLAM,
> Serbia.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Ade.
>
> On 22 December 2011 18:02, Anirudh Bhati  wrote:
>
>> For those interested in GLAM.
>>
>> Yours sincerely,
>>
>> Anirudh Bhati
>>
>> +855 975 529 803
>> Skype: anirudhsbh
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Mile Kiš 
>> Date: Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 4:01 AM
>> Subject: [Internal-l] Open Wiki GLAM of Serbia: Conference - Call for
>> participation
>> To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed
>> subscription)" 
>>
>>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> I wish to share my happiness with you regarding the GLAM conference in
>> Belgrade.
>>
>> I would like to use this opportunity to invite you to participate as
>> speakers and share your experiences with our glammers.
>> In the following month send us your applications. If you need funds for
>> expenditures, we'll try to make your travel possible in cooperation with
>> WMF.
>>
>> The conference is divided into the following thematic parts:
>> * Ways of protecting intellectual property on the Internet and Creative
>> Commons licenses
>> * Importance of having cultural heritage on the Internet and ways of
>> their presentation
>> * Wikimedia projects as a platform for dissemination of free content and
>> information
>> * Wikimedia projects as a means of communication, information and
>> education
>> * Success stories and models implemented with GLAM institutions +
>> technology of QR codes and their application in GLAM institutions
>>
>> We would also like to invite all other interested people to come and
>> participate in our conference and have a nice time with us after it. If you
>> want WMRS to help you with your travel and accommodation arrangements,
>> please inform us as soon as possible, so that we could make cheap bookings.
>>
>> You can send your applications at g...@vikimedija.org
>>
>> With regards,
>>
>> Mile Kish,
>>
>> Secretary-General
>>
>> Wikimedia Serbia
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Open Wiki GLAM of Serbia: Conference - Call for participation

[Srikanth Ramakrishnan]

Adethya, I assume that Vikimedija is the Serbian Wikimedia chapter.
Hence sending a mail to g...@wikimedia.org shouldn't work.

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Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikita-l] Salem Wiki Workshop Report

[Surya Prakash]

As a part of this Workshop a small photo-walk was conducted, the attendees
took photos all along their way in the market streets of Salem.

The images now categorized here.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedian_meetups_in_Salem,Dec2011

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On 12 December 2011 21:28, Srikanth Lakshmanan  wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 17:55, Surya Prakash wrote:
>
>> A Wiki workshop in Salem was conducted on December 11, 2011 by the Tamil
>> Wiki community
>>
>
> Kudos to all behind this. I would call this mini conference, Sodabottle
> travelled from land of Cheras, Essar from land of Pandyas for this
> meetup/. Also more awareness/outreach/meetups is required in
> tier-2 cities / towns and community(especially Indic will gain a lot from
> it).
>
> Please scroll down, mail isnt complete.
>
>  1) Workshop page and talk page in ta wiki:
>>  Event page<
>> http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE:%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%9A%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D_11,_2011_%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%87%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B4%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE_%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%B1%E0%AF%88
>> >
>>  Talk Page<
>> http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE_%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%87%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%81:%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%9A%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D_11,_2011_%E0%AE%9A%E0%AF%87%E0%AE%B2%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B4%E0%AF%8D_%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE_%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%9F%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%B1%E0%AF%88
>> >
>
>
> This is why one needs ShortURL. Will this bug bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1450 ever
> get some attention that its due? Note:- Tamil Wiki generally uses 
> tawp.inshortened URLs, there is an open bug in it, I thought we will wait for 
> the
> official extension rather than spending time to fix it. I think its safe to
> assume that ShortURL will not see end of tunnel atleast for few more
> months, So I would look around fixing it. There seems no point in waiting
> for deployment. I am disappointed.
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] NDTV stealing photographs off the internet.

[Gautam John]

On 24 December 2011 10:38, Praveen Prakash  wrote:

> Fair use applies when no other options available.  In case of CC,
> options are wide open. If somebody decides to override a CC licensed
> file with a fair use, it is a clear Copy Vio.

Ummm, no. Not to the best of my knowledge.

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] NDTV stealing photographs off the internet.

[Praveen Prakash]

Fair use applies when no other options available.  In case of CC,
options are wide open. If somebody decides to override a CC licensed
file with a fair use, it is a clear Copy Vio.

On 23/12/2011, Arun Ganesh  wrote:
> I dug up the Indian fair use law and found this:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_India/Fair_use#reproduction_in_a_newspaper
>
> In this case, the aircraft had crashed and it was no longer possible to get
> such a photograph, but can a newspaper otherwise just pick up any photo off
> the internet and use it under fair use clause just to avoid paying
> licensing fees of the photograph?
>
> -arun
>
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Gautam John wrote:
>
>> On 23 December 2011 21:43, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
>>  wrote:
>>
>> > Gautam, thank you for correcting me, but I believe Digitally Stealing
>> > is also defined as Using Data Without Permission. Atleast that's the
>> > definition Microsoft uses for their Windows Genuine campaign. Forgive
>> > me if I'm wrong.
>>
>> Since when did Microsoft become the arbiter of all that is sacred in
>> copyright law? :)
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Gautam
>> 
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Missing wikis now redirect to Incubator

[Surya Prakash]

>From Foundation's mailing list. :) Missing Wikis now redirect to the
Incubator project pages. :)
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-- Forwarded message --
From: Robin Pepermans 
Date: 23 December 2011 03:56
Subject: [Foundation-l] Missing wikis now redirect to Incubator
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List 


Hello all,

As of yesterday, when you go to a missing wiki (the redlinks on
Special:SiteMatrix) you will no longer see a static "this wiki does
not exist" error, but it will redirect to the Wikimedia Incubator,
where there is either a development wiki or an info page inviting you
to start one.
Exceptions are Wikiversity and Wikisource, because they are hosted on
different wikis.

For existing development wikis, going to for example
 directs you to the main page
. You can
also link directly to a page:
 to
. This also
enables interwiki links to these Incubator pages. (Interwiki bot
maintains: you are welcome to make use of that!)

For missing wikis, going to for example 
directs you to an info page
 which is an improved
version of the "this wiki does not exist" page: it is adapted to the
respective language, and the messages are localisable through
<
https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translate/ext-wikimediaincubatorinfopage
>.
(Translators: you are welcome to translate that!)

It only works for languages listed on SiteMatrix, so in general it
doesn't work for Wikipedias on Incubator.

Regards,
Robin (aka SPQRobin)

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] NDTV stealing photographs off the internet.

[CherianTinu Abraham]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/arunganesh/4345797042/

If I remember correctly, Times of India later apologized for not giving
attribution to while using one of Arun's CC licensed works on their
newspaper.

-TC

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Indian Law is indeed scary. I know most pictures on the internet get
> flicked, Arun, being a victim of Times of India earlier, but this is a
> bit unfair? But then again, most of real life is.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Open Wiki GLAM of Serbia: Conference - Call for participation

[Adethya Sudarsanan]

Anirudh,

the link present is not valid i guess... mails sent to "You can send your
applications at g...@vikimedija.org" fails. I tried sending it to "
g...@wikimedia.org" and there was no failure notice.

Am i doing the right thing? Pls advice. I want to participate in GLAM,
Serbia.

Thanks in advance,
Ade.

On 22 December 2011 18:02, Anirudh Bhati  wrote:

> For those interested in GLAM.
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> Anirudh Bhati
>
> +855 975 529 803
> Skype: anirudhsbh
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Mile Kiš 
> Date: Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 4:01 AM
> Subject: [Internal-l] Open Wiki GLAM of Serbia: Conference - Call for
> participation
> To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed
> subscription)" 
>
>
> Dear friends,
>
> I wish to share my happiness with you regarding the GLAM conference in
> Belgrade.
>
> I would like to use this opportunity to invite you to participate as
> speakers and share your experiences with our glammers.
> In the following month send us your applications. If you need funds for
> expenditures, we'll try to make your travel possible in cooperation with
> WMF.
>
> The conference is divided into the following thematic parts:
> * Ways of protecting intellectual property on the Internet and Creative
> Commons licenses
> * Importance of having cultural heritage on the Internet and ways of their
> presentation
> * Wikimedia projects as a platform for dissemination of free content and
> information
> * Wikimedia projects as a means of communication, information and education
> * Success stories and models implemented with GLAM institutions +
> technology of QR codes and their application in GLAM institutions
>
> We would also like to invite all other interested people to come and
> participate in our conference and have a nice time with us after it. If you
> want WMRS to help you with your travel and accommodation arrangements,
> please inform us as soon as possible, so that we could make cheap bookings.
>
> You can send your applications at g...@vikimedija.org
>
> With regards,
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-WB] Kolkata Photo Walk (Esplanade & Dalhousie)

[Ashwin Baindur]

Hi,

First of all many thanks to our Calcutta brethren  for conducting this
photo walk and many thanks for uploading the images to Commons. Such events
will greatly help our country's herittage buildings, architecture,
landmarks etc be preserved.

After trying a quick & dirty look up with the results of your wonderful
event,  some points come to mind.

1.* NAMING OF IMAGES* - . The images with building names included in name
are very useful & easily locatable

eg :
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Aayakar_Bhawan_-_Kolkata_2011-12-18_0067.JPG

Images named in the following manner are not at all useful to find the
building concerned

eg : File:Wikimedia_Photowalk_-_Kolkata_2011-12-18_(32).JPG

especially since about 150 of these are so named.

2. *CATEGORISATION* - Images need to be categorised otherwise the images
cannot be located/used by those who dont know where to look for them.

3. *ARTICLE USAGE* - Tried to see what has stubs/images on English
Wikipedia  -

1. Shahid Minar - No link. [[Shaheed Minar]] of Bangladesh not India
2. Metropolitan Building - [[Metropolitan Building (Minneapolis0]] not
Kolkata
3. Tipu Sultan Mosque - [[Tipu Sultan Mosque]], image already available
4. Victoria House - no article
5. Statesman House - no article but an image may be added (when located) to
[[The_Statesman]]
6. Aaykar Bhawan - no stub
7. Great Eastern Hotel - can be added to
[[Places_of_interest_in_Kolkata#Historic_hotels]]
8. Central Telegraph Office - page for CTO Colombo & London but not for
Mumbai & Kolkata
9. National Assurance Building - no building
10. Junior Staff Quarters of the Governor
11. Raj Bhawan - can be added to [[Raj_Bhavan_(West_Bengal)]]
12. St. John's Church - Meerut & Secunderabad pictured for India only
13. General Post Office - can be added to [[General_Post_Office,_Kolkata]]
14. Kolkata Collectorate - no article
15. Writers' Building - [[Writers'_Building]]
16. St. Andrews Chapel - no article

4. *STUB IMPROVEMENT* - Many buildings have no stubs. These need to be
made. Others need references, geo-code, images, etc.

Hope this feedback is useful in some way.

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
--


On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Kalyan Sarkar wrote:

>
> We met at the foot of Shahid Minar at 7AM in the morning. It was a bit
> foggy and chilly. We are enjoying an early winter chill and record low
> temperatures in Kolkata this year. After enjoying a steaming cup of tea at
> the CSTC Canteen and began our walk.
>
> ROUTE
> We crossed the J.L.Nehru Road and Lenin Sarani crossing and took Bentinck
> Street. Then we took left along the Waterloo Street, reaching the Great
> Eastern Hotel, we took right along the Hemanta Basu Sarani to B.B.D.Bagh
> Square. Then we proceeded along B.B.D.Bagh Sarani and took left turn to Red
> Cross Place to reach the entrance of Raj Bhawan. From there we proceeded
> along the Government Place to St John's Church and took right along Council
> House Street and Netaji Subhash Road and ended at the  Writers Buildings.
>
> MONUMENTS
> We covered the following monuments.
> 1. Shahid Minar
> 2. Metropolitan Building
> 3. Tipu Sultan Mosque
> 4. Victoria House
> 5. Statesman House
> 6. Aaykar Bhawan
> 7. Great Eastern Hotel
> 8. Central Telegraph Office
> 9. National Assurance Building
> 10. Junior Staff Quarters of the Governor
> 11. Raj Bhawan
> 12. St. John's Church
> 13. General Post Office
> 14. Kolkata Collectorate
> 15. Writers' Building
> 16. St. Andrews Chapel
>
> STATUES
> 1. Lenin
> 2. Asutosh Mookerjee
> 3. Prafulla Chaki
> 4. Dr. Bidhan Chandra Roy
> 5. Binay Badal Dinesh
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] NDTV stealing photographs off the internet.

[Anirudh Bhati]

Srikanth Ramakrishnan, a budding Jack
Valenti
?


On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Indian Law is indeed scary. I know most pictures on the internet get
> flicked, Arun, being a victim of Times of India earlier, but this is a
> bit unfair? But then again, most of real life is.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
> Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th.
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] NDTV stealing photographs off the internet.

[Srikanth Ramakrishnan]

Indian Law is indeed scary. I know most pictures on the internet get
flicked, Arun, being a victim of Times of India earlier, but this is a
bit unfair? But then again, most of real life is.

-- 
Regards,
Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] NDTV stealing photographs off the internet.

[Gautam John]

On 23 December 2011 22:47, Sudhanwa Jogalekar  wrote:

> But what the Attribution required clause?
> Almost all of the media violate the "Attribution required" clause all the 
> time.

Technically, fair dealing provisions override the CC License provisions.

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] NDTV stealing photographs off the internet.

[Gautam John]

On 23 December 2011 22:09, Arun Ganesh  wrote:

> In this case, the aircraft had crashed and it was no longer possible to get
> such a photograph, but can a newspaper otherwise just pick up any photo off
> the internet and use it under fair use clause just to avoid paying licensing
> fees of the photograph?

I have not looked at precedent around this but I'd think it's a fairly
narrow exception.

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] NDTV stealing photographs off the internet.

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

This is some gray area about fair use and some benefit of doubt can be
given to media.

But what the Attribution required clause?
Almost all of the media violate the "Attribution required" clause all the time.

-Sudhanwa


On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Arun Ganesh  wrote:
> I dug up the Indian fair use law and found this:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_India/Fair_use#reproduction_in_a_newspaper
>
> In this case, the aircraft had crashed and it was no longer possible to get
> such a photograph, but can a newspaper otherwise just pick up any photo off
> the internet and use it under fair use clause just to avoid paying licensing
> fees of the photograph?
>
> -arun
>
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Gautam John 
> wrote:
>>
>> On 23 December 2011 21:43, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
>>  wrote:
>>
>> > Gautam, thank you for correcting me, but I believe Digitally Stealing
>> > is also defined as Using Data Without Permission. Atleast that's the
>> > definition Microsoft uses for their Windows Genuine campaign. Forgive
>> > me if I'm wrong.
>>
>> Since when did Microsoft become the arbiter of all that is sacred in
>> copyright law? :)
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Gautam
>> 
>> http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] NDTV stealing photographs off the internet.

[Arun Ganesh]

I dug up the Indian fair use law and found this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_India/Fair_use#reproduction_in_a_newspaper

In this case, the aircraft had crashed and it was no longer possible to get
such a photograph, but can a newspaper otherwise just pick up any photo off
the internet and use it under fair use clause just to avoid paying
licensing fees of the photograph?

-arun

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Gautam John wrote:

> On 23 December 2011 21:43, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
>  wrote:
>
> > Gautam, thank you for correcting me, but I believe Digitally Stealing
> > is also defined as Using Data Without Permission. Atleast that's the
> > definition Microsoft uses for their Windows Genuine campaign. Forgive
> > me if I'm wrong.
>
> Since when did Microsoft become the arbiter of all that is sacred in
> copyright law? :)
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best,
>
> Gautam
> 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] NDTV stealing photographs off the internet.

[Gautam John]

On 23 December 2011 21:43, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
 wrote:

> Gautam, thank you for correcting me, but I believe Digitally Stealing
> is also defined as Using Data Without Permission. Atleast that's the
> definition Microsoft uses for their Windows Genuine campaign. Forgive
> me if I'm wrong.

Since when did Microsoft become the arbiter of all that is sacred in
copyright law? :)

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] NDTV stealing photographs off the internet.

[Srikanth Ramakrishnan]

Gautam, thank you for correcting me, but I believe Digitally Stealing
is also defined as Using Data Without Permission. Atleast that's the
definition Microsoft uses for their Windows Genuine campaign. Forgive
me if I'm wrong.

-- 
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Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] NDTV stealing photographs off the internet.

[Gautam John]

On 23 December 2011 20:11, Srikanth Ramakrishnan  wrote:

> link on Facebook about Barkha Dutt and NDTV stealing images off the

Nothing was stolen. At best, a case of copyright infringement could
made out. That said, the fair dealing provisions relating to current
affairs might kick in too.

Can we please not refer to copyright violations as stealing? It isn't
stealing - the original still exists.

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

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[Wikimediaindia-l] NDTV stealing photographs off the internet.

[Srikanth Ramakrishnan]

Heya, fellow photographer and Commons Illustrator Vinoth shared this
link on Facebook about Barkha Dutt and NDTV stealing images off the
internet. The image in the article was copyrighted. Imaging the
situation on Commons. Here's the link:
http://www.bangaloreaviation.com/2011/12/wall-of-shame-barkha-dutts-ndtv-steals.html

-- 
Regards,
Srikanth Ramakrishnan,
Sathyamangalam-Gobichettipalayam Star Gazers Gang, Ukkadam, Coimbatore.
My Commons uploads, now exceeding 75.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Rsrikanth05

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Welcoming Subhashish Panigrahi

[Subhashish Panigrahi]

Thanks a lot Anivar!

I am so excited to work with many communities across the nation, connecting
to all of you to reach to people will be my prime focus.

Best
Subha

On 23 December 2011 19:08, Anivar Aravind  wrote:

> Congrats Subha !!
>
> Happy to see average age of WMF India programme got reduced with your
> entry !!!
> Also thanks to  Hisham for renaming the post to suit the skillset of Subha
>
> Anivar
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Welcoming Subhashish Panigrahi

[Anivar Aravind]

Congrats Subha !!

Happy to see average age of WMF India programme got reduced with your entry !!!
Also thanks to  Hisham for renaming the post to suit the skillset of Subha

Anivar

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Android ICS support for Tamil and Indic languages

[Anivar Aravind]

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 5:07 PM, sankarshan  wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Ravishankar  wrote:
>
>> Only few years before even PCs supported all of these and it will take more
>> years to get this in all gadgets. So, the only expectation now is to at
>> least display the characters well. Input is the next priority which can be
>> solved by 3rd party apps for time being once the display issue is solved.
>
> Linux distributions have had the underlying codebase infrastructure to
> "support" Indian languages for close to 8 years now. Admittedly, the
> frameworks have changed/improved and, the resultant APIs have evolved.
> But the definition and scope of support put forth in my original mail
> has existed for that period of time. So it is certainly not a "few
> years".
>
> "Displaying the characters well" is a very broad based statement and,
> I'll provide an example from the 4.0.3 build - I see Bengali rendered
> with some degree of accuracy when using the Gmail app, the same cannot
> be said when using the Twitter app for Android. Which brings out the
> notion that the ability to build up and use the existing underlying
> frameworks is not very well baked in. The other bit that will be
> useful to create a set of publicly available standard test pages for
> Indic text. Paragraphs which have sufficient complexity being handled
> via nearly all conjunct combinations and so forth would actually help
> testing the mobile app to the fullest.
>
> Input and, primarily input methods are desired to be some form of
> standardization or, at least a reference implementation. In the early
> days of Linux (and, very recently during the stage with the 'Rupee'
> symbol), a lot of 3rd party application developers and ISVs came up
> with their own implementation of input methods and layout. The
> resultant effect was a large corpus of document which needed some form
> of 'translation' into Unicode-compliant form. Punting on ISVs to fix
> the input issue is a bad bet fraught with dangers. I am not suggesting
> that the ISVs will go out and deliberately muddy up waters. But the
> nature of the business and, the precedent leaves no doubt of such a
> situation repeating itself.

Well said sankarsan.

Did anyone tested wikipedias in these languages in Android ICS?
The controversial Lohit-Tamil font (I understand , Quality issues with
Lohit was the reason for disabling Webfonts extention in Tamil) seems
to be  the default in Android . Anyway rendering in Andoid will be
better that that of windows , because it uses harfbuzz.

Anivar

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Welcoming Subhashish Panigrahi

[Subhashish Panigrahi]

Thanks a lot Sudhanwa, will love to join you all in Pune, I will connect
you all through IRC an plan for an event.

Srikanth, I am looking forward for joining you guys, when you organize a
meetup next time in Koimbatore, please let me know, will join you over
skype and sometime will meet you guys in Kovai :)

Subha

On 23 December 2011 16:24, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
wrote:

> Subha, I hope as part of your new role, you can now join us in Coimbatore
> once.
>
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> Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Android ICS support for Tamil and Indic languages

[sankarshan]

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Ravishankar  wrote:

> Only few years before even PCs supported all of these and it will take more
> years to get this in all gadgets. So, the only expectation now is to at
> least display the characters well. Input is the next priority which can be
> solved by 3rd party apps for time being once the display issue is solved.

Linux distributions have had the underlying codebase infrastructure to
"support" Indian languages for close to 8 years now. Admittedly, the
frameworks have changed/improved and, the resultant APIs have evolved.
But the definition and scope of support put forth in my original mail
has existed for that period of time. So it is certainly not a "few
years".

"Displaying the characters well" is a very broad based statement and,
I'll provide an example from the 4.0.3 build - I see Bengali rendered
with some degree of accuracy when using the Gmail app, the same cannot
be said when using the Twitter app for Android. Which brings out the
notion that the ability to build up and use the existing underlying
frameworks is not very well baked in. The other bit that will be
useful to create a set of publicly available standard test pages for
Indic text. Paragraphs which have sufficient complexity being handled
via nearly all conjunct combinations and so forth would actually help
testing the mobile app to the fullest.

Input and, primarily input methods are desired to be some form of
standardization or, at least a reference implementation. In the early
days of Linux (and, very recently during the stage with the 'Rupee'
symbol), a lot of 3rd party application developers and ISVs came up
with their own implementation of input methods and layout. The
resultant effect was a large corpus of document which needed some form
of 'translation' into Unicode-compliant form. Punting on ISVs to fix
the input issue is a bad bet fraught with dangers. I am not suggesting
that the ISVs will go out and deliberately muddy up waters. But the
nature of the business and, the precedent leaves no doubt of such a
situation repeating itself.


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Android ICS support for Tamil and Indic languages

[Srikanth Ramakrishnan]

That would make everybody with a phone elite. Whether they have a
Nokia 1100 or Basic Music Java phone, irrespective of when they bought
it. Some people, stick to phones for years. Three, four, five too.
Difficutlt, but true.

-- 
Regards,
Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Update on India Programs Team: Communications

[Srikanth Ramakrishnan]

Hisham, may I suggest that you make it mandatory that people you
employ have adequate exposure and experience with the Wiki ecosystem
like Shiju and Subha have?

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Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Welcoming Subhashish Panigrahi

[Srikanth Ramakrishnan]

Subha, I hope as part of your new role, you can now join us in Coimbatore once.

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Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Welcoming Subhashish Panigrahi

[Sudhanwa Jogalekar]

All the very best wishes Subha,

Do drop in sometime to Pune.

-Sudhanwa


On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi <
psubhash...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Ansuman, Ashwin and RK for the wishes, there is lot more to do with
> the support of you all and I am very much glad that I would be working with
> all the communities. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
>
> Subha
>
> *Thanks Nitika for this warm welcome!*
> *
> *
> *I am looking forward to join all of you there in Delhi and drive forward
> the initiatives. And yes, would like to try my hand to treat you all (hope
> you don't complain about salt) :-)*
> *
> *
> *Wish you a merry Christmas and happy new year in advance and thanks a
> lot for this gift of inviting me as a teammate!
>
> Good day*!
> Subha
>
>
> On 23 December 2011 10:39, Nitika  wrote:
>
>> Congratulations Subhashish, :)
>>
>> We all are extremely excited to have you in the India Programs Team. I've
>> heard so many nice and sweet things about you - I'm sure working with you
>> would be a pleasure!
>>
>> And of course we are waiting for a delicious treat (I hear you're a
>> wonderful cook :)
>>
>> ...Welcoming you to 'sadi Dilli'
>> Nitika
>>
>>
>> On 22-Dec-2011, at 11:32 PM, ansuman wrote:
>>
>> Congrats Subha Paa. :) Special Welcome on behalf of Odia Community.
>> Thanks to WMF & Team.
>>
>> The community (bangalore) will miss you for sure. Thanks for your
>> support. Thanks for being my Roommate.
>>
>> Working with Wikipedia has been a wonderful experience. We started in the
>> same place, hope we never stop :)
>>
>> Welcome to Dilli and All the Best :)
>>
>> Regards
>> Ansuman
>> *
>> ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ
>> *
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ansumang
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Ashwin Baindur <
>> ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Congrats Subhashish, all the best in your new post.
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>>
>>> Ashwin Baindur
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:17 PM, RadhaKrishna Arvapally <
>>> radhakrishna.arvapa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Congratulations Subha!


 -RadhaKrishna



 On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Hisham  wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> As you might be aware, the Consultant, Team Support position is to be
> filled as part of the India Programs team.  (
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-September/004251.html.)
>
>
> I am really pleased and excited to announce that Subhashish Panigrahi
> has agreed to join as Consultant, Community & Program Support.
>
> Some of you might know Subhashish (or Subha as he's also called.) He
> is all of 23 and a wonderful Wikimedian from Odisha.  He has a BE in
> Biotechnology from Sapthagiri College of Engineering, Bangalore.  He has
> worked for about 1 1/2 years in business development and is currently 
> based
> in Bangalore.  He's been an active Wikimedian since a friend of his
> attended a Wikipedia 10th event in Bangalore in January and told Subha
> about Wikipedia.  Subha then spent considerable time - quite a bit of it 
> in
> Shiju Alex's living room apparently :-) - learning about Wikipedia.  Since
> then, he's been on fire!  He's helped the Bangalore community organise the
> monthly meet-ups, been a central figure in building community & momentum
> for Odia Wikipedia and has conducted outreach programs for Odia projects
> back home in Odisha as well as in Bangalore. He's also been helping out
> other projects and communities; a couple of weekends ago he was in Chennai
> conducting a WikiAcademy there.  He is a fantastically inspiring example 
> of
> a complete outsider being welcomed into the family, having his hand held 
> in
> his growth as a newbie, charging forward taking responsibility & ownership
> and then spreading his skills & knowledge to others. He is also one of the
> sweetest human beings I have ever met. He is a perfect example of the
> Wikimedia Dream.
>
> His interests (outside of Wikimedia) are cooking, graphic design and
> handwriting analysis.  (I bet most of you who know Subha don't know that
> last bit about him.  So the next time you see him, show him your writing
> and get him to reveal your deep dark secrets!)  He has also been
> involved with campaigns for social work during the floods and cholera
> outbreak in Odisha and been involved with a Odisha community organisation,
> eOdissa.com .
>
> Originally, the Consultant, Team Support position (
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_-_India_Programs#Team_Structure)
>  was
> to manage the back-end aspects of India Programs (basic accounting, basic
> personnel management, office administration, travel support, expense
> statement management, logistics support for the community

[Wikimediaindia-l] Update on India Programs Team: Communications

[Hisham]

Dear All

As you might be aware, there is one more team member I have been trying to get 
on board for the India Programs Team 
(http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-September/004251.html)
 - Consultant, Communications.

I have unfortunately not been able to find the right candidate (yet!) for this. 
 The role involves community communications (newsletters, mailing list updates, 
village pump updates, etc.), press/media/PR (building media relationships, 
supporting community initiatives through media coverage, etc.), social media 
(using social networks like facebook and twitter to compliment community 
efforts) and digital outreach (supporting community building through online 
outreach of existing readers through online tutorials, videos, etc.)  

I have interviewed dozens of candidates - most of who are really bright - but 
I'm not confident that we have anyone yet who is adequately familiar with our 
movement, community & projects.  Having said that, I'm still looking; If you 
know of anyone, please do connect them with me.  In addition, I am asking some 
of the interested candidates who had applied to get more involved with the 
community and build understanding and familiarity; we can relook at their 
candidature down the line.  

Do let me know if you need any clarifications.

Best

hisham


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