Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?

2012-01-18 Thread Nagarjuna G
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:38 AM, CherianTinu Abraham
tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?
 ( Article by Achal Prabhala)

 http://www.indianexpress.com/news/would-gandhi-have-been-a-wikipedian/900506/1

 http://www.indianexpress.com/news/would-gandhi-have-been-a-wikipedian/900506/0
 ( Single Page Version)

 In 1941, a young Argentinian librarian who would soon go completely blind
 published a story about the futility of the “total” library. His inspiration
 was Kurd Lasswitz, a 19th century German philosopher and science-fiction
 pioneer, whose own idea of a “universal” library was a mathematical
 nightmare of frighteningly large but finite proportions. The writer was
 Jorge Luis Borges, and his story, The Library of Babel, (taking off from the
 mythical Tower of Babel, a place of linguistic dysfunction) spawned a minor
 publishing industry of its own. Borges’ library was not a happy place: its
 chronically overworked librarians were suicidal, thuggish cults periodically
 vandalised the books, people spent lifetimes searching for a catalogue
 without success, and — wondrous as it all was — no one expected to find
 anything useful there ever.

 Eighty years after it was written, Borges’ feverish fantasy is a cautionary
 tale for those who are tempted to take Internet-era fantasies at their word.
 When a Google executive was asked to describe the perfect search engine, he
 is reported to have said, “It would be like the mind of God.” Preposterous,
 yes; but also exciting. And anyone excited enough to adopt this as a mission
 statement would do well to have a cold shower, and heed Borges’ conclusion
 on the topic — “The library is unlimited and cyclical”.

 Happily, there are more human, and altogether more humble manifestations of
 the desire to learn and share and prosper. In ancient history, the
 pre-biblical city of Babylon was a working counterpoint to the biblical
 Tower of Babel; a bustling site where diverse crowds made good together. In
 the present day, we are no closer to knowing everything, but we have
 Wikipedia: a bustling website where diverse people from everywhere in the
 world create miracles. Wikipedia’s humility is the flip-side to its success,
 and it comes from wanting to be precisely the opposite of the total library:
 call it a perpetually partial library, if you will. No one who has spent
 even a minute contributing anything to it would dare assume that the job is
 done, the perspective complete, or the game won.

 Eleven years ago to this day, Jimmy Wales typed out “Hello world!” and
 Wikipedia was born. In 1989, Richard Stallman pioneered a form of copyright
 licensing for software that allowed programmers and users to do virtually
 anything they liked with it. This formed the basis for free and open source
 software, or FOSS. In 1995, Ward Cunningham used FOSS to build the
 underlying software for a novel form of collaboration — the “wiki”. By this
 time, the benefits of a generous copyright licence to software were
 apparent, and it was extended to mainstream culture — to words, sounds and
 images. Wikipedia was among the early exponents of this free culture
 experiment, quickly followed by sister projects of the Wikimedia Foundation:
 Wikimedia Commons, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikibooks and more.

 Wikipedia’s collaborative system of knowledge has exceeded everyone’s
 wildest expectations. Today, it is the world’s fifth most visited website —
 and the sole non-profit upstart in the oligarchical fiefdom that is our
 online landscape. There are thriving communities of volunteers in countries
 like India and South Africa, among several other places, who are helping us
 discover that learning does not have to be a passive act, and that the value
 of generosity can be productive and revolutionary at once.

 Interestingly enough, it was about a hundred years ago that a young,
 idealistic lawyer set off on a similar journey. Affected by colonialism in
 his home, India, and faced with debilitating segregation laws in his adopted
 home, South Africa, he saw the productive and revolutionary potential in
 generous knowledge. Over a long sea journey from London to Cape Town, he
 wrote down his ideas on self-determination and independence. The young
 lawyer was, of course, Gandhi, and his book, Hind Swaraj, would go on to
 become the intellectual blueprint for the Indian freedom movement. The
 original was written in Gujarati in 1909. One year later, it was translated
 into English and published as Indian Home Rule. On the cover of the first
 edition of this English translation is a prominent, if unusual, copyright
 legend. It reads, “No Rights Reserved”.


This is news to me.  here is the link:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Gandhi-Home-Rule-First-Edition-1909.jpg

a page I will show to every one!

--
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?

2012-01-18 Thread John Vandenberg
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:38 AM, CherianTinu Abraham
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?
 ( Article by Achal Prabhala)

 http://www.indianexpress.com/news/would-gandhi-have-been-a-wikipedian/900506/1

 http://www.indianexpress.com/news/would-gandhi-have-been-a-wikipedian/900506/0
 ( Single Page Version)

 In 1941, a young Argentinian librarian who would soon go completely blind
 published a story about the futility of the “total” library. His inspiration
 was Kurd Lasswitz, a 19th century German philosopher and science-fiction
 pioneer, whose own idea of a “universal” library was a mathematical
 nightmare of frighteningly large but finite proportions. The writer was
 Jorge Luis Borges, and his story, The Library of Babel, (taking off from the
 mythical Tower of Babel, a place of linguistic dysfunction) spawned a minor
 publishing industry of its own. Borges’ library was not a happy place: its
 chronically overworked librarians were suicidal, thuggish cults periodically
 vandalised the books, people spent lifetimes searching for a catalogue
 without success, and — wondrous as it all was — no one expected to find
 anything useful there ever.

 Eighty years after it was written, Borges’ feverish fantasy is a cautionary
 tale for those who are tempted to take Internet-era fantasies at their word.
 When a Google executive was asked to describe the perfect search engine, he
 is reported to have said, “It would be like the mind of God.” Preposterous,
 yes; but also exciting. And anyone excited enough to adopt this as a mission
 statement would do well to have a cold shower, and heed Borges’ conclusion
 on the topic — “The library is unlimited and cyclical”.

 Happily, there are more human, and altogether more humble manifestations of
 the desire to learn and share and prosper. In ancient history, the
 pre-biblical city of Babylon was a working counterpoint to the biblical
 Tower of Babel; a bustling site where diverse crowds made good together. In
 the present day, we are no closer to knowing everything, but we have
 Wikipedia: a bustling website where diverse people from everywhere in the
 world create miracles. Wikipedia’s humility is the flip-side to its success,
 and it comes from wanting to be precisely the opposite of the total library:
 call it a perpetually partial library, if you will. No one who has spent
 even a minute contributing anything to it would dare assume that the job is
 done, the perspective complete, or the game won.

 Eleven years ago to this day, Jimmy Wales typed out “Hello world!” and
 Wikipedia was born. In 1989, Richard Stallman pioneered a form of copyright
 licensing for software that allowed programmers and users to do virtually
 anything they liked with it. This formed the basis for free and open source
 software, or FOSS. In 1995, Ward Cunningham used FOSS to build the
 underlying software for a novel form of collaboration — the “wiki”. By this
 time, the benefits of a generous copyright licence to software were
 apparent, and it was extended to mainstream culture — to words, sounds and
 images. Wikipedia was among the early exponents of this free culture
 experiment, quickly followed by sister projects of the Wikimedia Foundation:
 Wikimedia Commons, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikibooks and more.

 Wikipedia’s collaborative system of knowledge has exceeded everyone’s
 wildest expectations. Today, it is the world’s fifth most visited website —
 and the sole non-profit upstart in the oligarchical fiefdom that is our
 online landscape. There are thriving communities of volunteers in countries
 like India and South Africa, among several other places, who are helping us
 discover that learning does not have to be a passive act, and that the value
 of generosity can be productive and revolutionary at once.

 Interestingly enough, it was about a hundred years ago that a young,
 idealistic lawyer set off on a similar journey. Affected by colonialism in
 his home, India, and faced with debilitating segregation laws in his adopted
 home, South Africa, he saw the productive and revolutionary potential in
 generous knowledge. Over a long sea journey from London to Cape Town, he
 wrote down his ideas on self-determination and independence. The young
 lawyer was, of course, Gandhi, and his book, Hind Swaraj, would go on to
 become the intellectual blueprint for the Indian freedom movement. The
 original was written in Gujarati in 1909. One year later, it was translated
 into English and published as Indian Home Rule. On the cover of the first
 edition of this English translation is a prominent, if unusual, copyright
 legend. It reads, “No Rights Reserved”.


 This is news to me.  here is the link:
 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Gandhi-Home-Rule-First-Edition-1909.jpg

 a page I will show to every one!

Another page to show everyone ...


Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?

2012-01-17 Thread Béria Lima
Tinu, can I FW to my chapter list (is also a closed list)?
_
*Béria Lima*
http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484

*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos*


On 17 January 2012 04:08, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:


 *The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?*
 ( Article by Achal Prabhala)


 http://www.indianexpress.com/news/would-gandhi-have-been-a-wikipedian/900506/1


 http://www.indianexpress.com/news/would-gandhi-have-been-a-wikipedian/900506/0
 ( Single Page Version)
 *
 In 1941, a young Argentinian librarian who would soon go completely blind
 published a story about the futility of the “total” library. His
 inspiration was Kurd Lasswitz, a 19th century German philosopher and
 science-fiction pioneer, whose own idea of a “universal” library was a
 mathematical nightmare of frighteningly large but finite proportions. The
 writer was Jorge Luis Borges, and his story, The Library of Babel, (taking
 off from the mythical Tower of Babel, a place of linguistic dysfunction)
 spawned a minor publishing industry of its own. Borges’ library was not a
 happy place: its chronically overworked librarians were suicidal, thuggish
 cults periodically vandalised the books, people spent lifetimes searching
 for a catalogue without success, and — wondrous as it all was — no one
 expected to find anything useful there ever.

 Eighty years after it was written, Borges’ feverish fantasy is a
 cautionary tale for those who are tempted to take Internet-era fantasies at
 their word. When a Google executive was asked to describe the perfect
 search engine, he is reported to have said, “It would be like the mind of
 God.” Preposterous, yes; but also exciting. And anyone excited enough to
 adopt this as a mission statement would do well to have a cold shower, and
 heed Borges’ conclusion on the topic — “The library is unlimited and
 cyclical”.

 Happily, there are more human, and altogether more humble manifestations
 of the desire to learn and share and prosper. In ancient history, the
 pre-biblical city of Babylon was a working counterpoint to the biblical
 Tower of Babel; a bustling site where diverse crowds made good together. In
 the present day, we are no closer to knowing everything, but we have
 Wikipedia: a bustling website where diverse people from everywhere in the
 world create miracles. Wikipedia’s humility is the flip-side to its
 success, and it comes from wanting to be precisely the opposite of the
 total library: call it a perpetually partial library, if you will. No one
 who has spent even a minute contributing anything to it would dare assume
 that the job is done, the perspective complete, or the game won.

 Eleven years ago to this day, Jimmy Wales typed out “Hello world!” and
 Wikipedia was born. In 1989, Richard Stallman pioneered a form of copyright
 licensing for software that allowed programmers and users to do virtually
 anything they liked with it. This formed the basis for free and open source
 software, or FOSS. In 1995, Ward Cunningham used FOSS to build the
 underlying software for a novel form of collaboration — the “wiki”. By this
 time, the benefits of a generous copyright licence to software were
 apparent, and it was extended to mainstream culture — to words, sounds and
 images. Wikipedia was among the early exponents of this free culture
 experiment, quickly followed by sister projects of the Wikimedia
 Foundation: Wikimedia Commons, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikibooks and more.

 Wikipedia’s collaborative system of knowledge has exceeded everyone’s
 wildest expectations. Today, it is the world’s fifth most visited website —
 and the sole non-profit upstart in the oligarchical fiefdom that is our
 online landscape. There are thriving communities of volunteers in countries
 like India and South Africa, among several other places, who are helping us
 discover that learning does not have to be a passive act, and that the
 value of generosity can be productive and revolutionary at once.

 Interestingly enough, it was about a hundred years ago that a young,
 idealistic lawyer set off on a similar journey. Affected by colonialism in
 his home, India, and faced with debilitating segregation laws in his
 adopted home, South Africa, he saw the productive and revolutionary
 potential in generous knowledge. Over a long sea journey from London to
 Cape Town, he wrote down his ideas on self-determination and independence.
 The young lawyer was, of course, Gandhi, and his book, Hind Swaraj, would
 go on to become the intellectual blueprint for the Indian freedom movement.
 The original was written in Gujarati in 1909. One year later, it was
 translated into English and published as Indian Home Rule. On the cover of
 the first edition of this English translation is a prominent, if unusual,
 copyright legend. It reads, 

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?

2012-01-17 Thread wheredevelsdare

Beria, you dont need to ask - please go ahead :)

Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:27:06 -0200
From: berial...@gmail.com
To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would Gandhi 
have been a Wikipedian?

Tinu, can I FW to my chapter list (is also a closed list)?_
Béria Lima
(351) 925 171 484


Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre 
acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse 
sonho.




On 17 January 2012 04:08, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:


The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?
( Article by Achal Prabhala)

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/would-gandhi-have-been-a-wikipedian/900506/1 





http://www.indianexpress.com/news/would-gandhi-have-been-a-wikipedian/900506/0  
( Single Page Version) 




In 1941, a young Argentinian librarian who would soon go completely blind 
published a story about the futility of the “total” library. His inspiration 
was Kurd Lasswitz, a 19th century German philosopher and science-fiction 
pioneer, whose own idea of a “universal” library was a mathematical nightmare 
of frighteningly large but finite proportions. The writer was Jorge Luis 
Borges, and his story, The Library of Babel, (taking off from the mythical 
Tower of Babel, a place of linguistic dysfunction) spawned a minor publishing 
industry of its own. Borges’ library was not a happy place: its chronically 
overworked librarians were suicidal, thuggish cults periodically vandalised the 
books, people spent lifetimes searching for a catalogue without success, and — 
wondrous as it all was — no one expected to find anything useful there ever. 





Eighty years after it was written, Borges’ feverish fantasy is a cautionary 
tale for those who are tempted to take Internet-era fantasies at their word. 
When a Google executive was asked to describe the perfect search engine, he is 
reported to have said, “It would be like the mind of God.” Preposterous, yes; 
but also exciting. And anyone excited enough to adopt this as a mission 
statement would do well to have a cold shower, and heed Borges’ conclusion on 
the topic — “The library is unlimited and cyclical”.





Happily, there are more human, and altogether more humble manifestations of the 
desire to learn and share and prosper. In ancient history, the pre-biblical 
city of Babylon was a working counterpoint to the biblical Tower of Babel; a 
bustling site where diverse crowds made good together. In the present day, we 
are no closer to knowing everything, but we have Wikipedia: a bustling website 
where diverse people from everywhere in the world create miracles. Wikipedia’s 
humility is the flip-side to its success, and it comes from wanting to be 
precisely the opposite of the total library: call it a perpetually partial 
library, if you will. No one who has spent even a minute contributing anything 
to it would dare assume that the job is done, the perspective complete, or the 
game won.





Eleven years ago to this day, Jimmy Wales typed out “Hello world!” and 
Wikipedia was born. In 1989, Richard Stallman pioneered a form of copyright 
licensing for software that allowed programmers and users to do virtually 
anything they liked with it. This formed the basis for free and open source 
software, or FOSS. In 1995, Ward Cunningham used FOSS to build the underlying 
software for a novel form of collaboration — the “wiki”. By this time, the 
benefits of a generous copyright licence to software were apparent, and it was 
extended to mainstream culture — to words, sounds and images. Wikipedia was 
among the early exponents of this free culture experiment, quickly followed by 
sister projects of the Wikimedia Foundation: Wikimedia Commons, Wiktionary, 
Wikiquote, Wikibooks and more.





Wikipedia’s collaborative system of knowledge has exceeded everyone’s wildest 
expectations. Today, it is the world’s fifth most visited website — and the 
sole non-profit upstart in the oligarchical fiefdom that is our online 
landscape. There are thriving communities of volunteers in countries like India 
and South Africa, among several other places, who are helping us discover that 
learning does not have to be a passive act, and that the value of generosity 
can be productive and revolutionary at once.





Interestingly enough, it was about a hundred years ago that a young, idealistic 
lawyer set off on a similar journey. Affected by colonialism in his home, 
India, and faced with debilitating segregation laws in his adopted home, South 
Africa, he saw the productive and revolutionary potential in generous 
knowledge. Over a long sea journey from London to Cape Town, he wrote down his 
ideas on self-determination and independence. The young lawyer was, of course, 
Gandhi, and his book, Hind Swaraj, would go on to become the intellectual 
blueprint for the Indian freedom movement. The original was written

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?

2012-01-17 Thread Béria Lima
Actually I do because there is a note: I*mportant Note : The publisher (
The Indian Express ) of the above news article owns the copyrights of the
article / content. Request to kindly not reproduce or circulate the content
further. The information is only shared only with an internal community who
have been featured on this article.  All copyrights are duly acknowledged.*
(bold is mine)

Anyway, thanks to both of you :D
_
*Béria Lima*
http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484

*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos*


On 17 January 2012 10:28, wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Beria, you dont need to ask - please go ahead :)

 --
 Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:27:06 -0200
 From: berial...@gmail.com
 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would
 Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?


 Tinu, can I FW to my chapter list (is also a closed list)?
 _
 *Béria Lima*
 http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484

 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
 livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
 construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos*


 On 17 January 2012 04:08, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote:


 *The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?*
 ( Article by Achal Prabhala)


 http://www.indianexpress.com/news/would-gandhi-have-been-a-wikipedian/900506/1


 http://www.indianexpress.com/news/would-gandhi-have-been-a-wikipedian/900506/0
 ( Single Page Version)
 *
 In 1941, a young Argentinian librarian who would soon go completely blind
 published a story about the futility of the “total” library. His
 inspiration was Kurd Lasswitz, a 19th century German philosopher and
 science-fiction pioneer, whose own idea of a “universal” library was a
 mathematical nightmare of frighteningly large but finite proportions. The
 writer was Jorge Luis Borges, and his story, The Library of Babel, (taking
 off from the mythical Tower of Babel, a place of linguistic dysfunction)
 spawned a minor publishing industry of its own. Borges’ library was not a
 happy place: its chronically overworked librarians were suicidal, thuggish
 cults periodically vandalised the books, people spent lifetimes searching
 for a catalogue without success, and — wondrous as it all was — no one
 expected to find anything useful there ever.

 Eighty years after it was written, Borges’ feverish fantasy is a
 cautionary tale for those who are tempted to take Internet-era fantasies at
 their word. When a Google executive was asked to describe the perfect
 search engine, he is reported to have said, “It would be like the mind of
 God.” Preposterous, yes; but also exciting. And anyone excited enough to
 adopt this as a mission statement would do well to have a cold shower, and
 heed Borges’ conclusion on the topic — “The library is unlimited and
 cyclical”.

 Happily, there are more human, and altogether more humble manifestations
 of the desire to learn and share and prosper. In ancient history, the
 pre-biblical city of Babylon was a working counterpoint to the biblical
 Tower of Babel; a bustling site where diverse crowds made good together. In
 the present day, we are no closer to knowing everything, but we have
 Wikipedia: a bustling website where diverse people from everywhere in the
 world create miracles. Wikipedia’s humility is the flip-side to its
 success, and it comes from wanting to be precisely the opposite of the
 total library: call it a perpetually partial library, if you will. No one
 who has spent even a minute contributing anything to it would dare assume
 that the job is done, the perspective complete, or the game won.

 Eleven years ago to this day, Jimmy Wales typed out “Hello world!” and
 Wikipedia was born. In 1989, Richard Stallman pioneered a form of copyright
 licensing for software that allowed programmers and users to do virtually
 anything they liked with it. This formed the basis for free and open source
 software, or FOSS. In 1995, Ward Cunningham used FOSS to build the
 underlying software for a novel form of collaboration — the “wiki”. By this
 time, the benefits of a generous copyright licence to software were
 apparent, and it was extended to mainstream culture — to words, sounds and
 images. Wikipedia was among the early exponents of this free culture
 experiment, quickly followed by sister projects of the Wikimedia
 Foundation: Wikimedia Commons, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikibooks and more.

 Wikipedia’s collaborative system of knowledge has exceeded everyone’s
 wildest expectations. Today, it is the world’s fifth most visited website —
 and the sole non-profit upstart in the oligarchical fiefdom that is our
 online landscape. There are thriving communities of volunteers in countries
 like India

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?

2012-01-17 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 18:07, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually I do because there is a note: I*mportant Note : The publisher (
 The Indian Express ) of the above news article owns the copyrights of the
 article / content. Request to kindly not reproduce or circulate the
 content further. The information is only shared only with an internal
 community who have been featured on this article.  All copyrights are duly
 acknowledged.* (bold is mine)


You are free to forward just the links. Reproducing verbatim elsewhere
might not go well with fair use. Also heard elsewhere on another list on
the same topic that news is meant to be shared, so no harm. Frankly all
this obsession on copyright only after editing Wikipedia, otherwise since
when people in India thought of copyright seriously.

-- 
Regards
Srikanth.L
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?

2012-01-17 Thread Shrinivasan T
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote:


 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 18:07, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually I do because there is a note: Important Note : The publisher (
 The Indian Express ) of the above news article owns the copyrights of the
 article / content. Request to kindly not reproduce or circulate the content
 further. The information is only shared only with an internal community who
 have been featured on this article.  All copyrights are duly acknowledged.
 (bold is mine)


When we forward the emails with the above note, to other technical
mailing lists,
they scold me for forwarding the copyrighted material.

I do not see any info on copyright or have to put a footnote like
above in any of the news websites.

I request Tinu to remove the footnote or just share the links and some snippet.

Thanks.




 You are free to forward just the links. Reproducing verbatim elsewhere might
 not go well with fair use. Also heard elsewhere on another list on the
 same topic that news is meant to be shared, so no harm. Frankly all this
 obsession on copyright only after editing Wikipedia, otherwise since when
 people in India thought of copyright seriously.

 --
 Regards
 Srikanth.L

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?

2012-01-17 Thread Béria Lima
oh common, we don't need to start a cruzade because of this. Isn't that big
deal
_
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On 17 January 2012 11:17, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
  On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 18:07, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Actually I do because there is a note: Important Note : The publisher (
  The Indian Express ) of the above news article owns the copyrights of
 the
  article / content. Request to kindly not reproduce or circulate the
 content
  further. The information is only shared only with an internal community
 who
  have been featured on this article.  All copyrights are duly
 acknowledged.
  (bold is mine)


 When we forward the emails with the above note, to other technical
 mailing lists,
 they scold me for forwarding the copyrighted material.

 I do not see any info on copyright or have to put a footnote like
 above in any of the news websites.

 I request Tinu to remove the footnote or just share the links and some
 snippet.

 Thanks.


 
 
  You are free to forward just the links. Reproducing verbatim elsewhere
 might
  not go well with fair use. Also heard elsewhere on another list on the
  same topic that news is meant to be shared, so no harm. Frankly all this
  obsession on copyright only after editing Wikipedia, otherwise since when
  people in India thought of copyright seriously.
 
  --
  Regards
  Srikanth.L
 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?

2012-01-17 Thread Mandar Kulkarni
Srikanth,

There is copyright law in India for last many decades and most people were/are 
following the same before wikipedia had not taken a birth. There is no need to 
make generic comments on Indians for no reason. We are Indians and we should be 
proud of that.
 
 
With Regards,

Mandar V. Kulkarni
http://mr.wikipedia.org




 From: Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com
To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 17 January 2012, 18:16
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would Gandhi 
have been a Wikipedian?
 




On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 18:07, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

Actually I do because there is a note: Important Note : The publisher ( The 
Indian Express ) of the above news 
article owns the copyrights of the article / content. Request to kindly 
not reproduce or circulate the content further. The information is only 
shared only with an internal community who have been featured on this 
article.  All copyrights are duly acknowledged. (bold is mine)

You are free to forward just the links. Reproducing verbatim elsewhere might 
not go well with fair use. Also heard elsewhere on another list on the same 
topic that news is meant to be shared, so no harm. Frankly all this obsession 
on copyright only after editing Wikipedia, otherwise since when people in 
India thought of copyright seriously.


-- 
Regards
Srikanth.L

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?

2012-01-17 Thread Béria Lima
/me is proud of being indian too





Oh, I forgot I'm not indian! ;)
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On 17 January 2012 12:23, Mandar Kulkarni mvkulkarn...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Srikanth,

 There is copyright law in India for last many decades and most people
 were/are following the same before wikipedia had not taken a birth. There
 is no need to make generic comments on Indians for no reason. We are
 Indians and we should be proud of that.


 With Regards,

 Mandar V. Kulkarni
 http://mr.wikipedia.org

   --
 *From:* Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com
 *To:* Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org

 *Sent:* Tuesday, 17 January 2012, 18:16

 *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would
 Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?



 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 18:07, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually I do because there is a note: I*mportant Note : The publisher (
 The Indian Express ) of the above news article owns the copyrights of the
 article / content. Request to kindly not reproduce or circulate the
 content further. The information is only shared only with an internal
 community who have been featured on this article.  All copyrights are duly
 acknowledged.* (bold is mine)


 You are free to forward just the links. Reproducing verbatim elsewhere
 might not go well with fair use. Also heard elsewhere on another list on
 the same topic that news is meant to be shared, so no harm. Frankly all
 this obsession on copyright only after editing Wikipedia, otherwise since
 when people in India thought of copyright seriously.

 --
 Regards
 Srikanth.L

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?

2012-01-17 Thread Anirudh Bhati
You don't have the blue Indian passport yet.

:p

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

 /me is proud of being indian too





 Oh, I forgot I'm not indian! ;)
 _
 *Béria Lima*
  http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484

 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
 livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
 construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos*


 On 17 January 2012 12:23, Mandar Kulkarni mvkulkarn...@yahoo.co.ukwrote:

 Srikanth,

 There is copyright law in India for last many decades and most people
 were/are following the same before wikipedia had not taken a birth. There
 is no need to make generic comments on Indians for no reason. We are
 Indians and we should be proud of that.


 With Regards,

 Mandar V. Kulkarni
 http://mr.wikipedia.org

   --
 *From:* Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com
 *To:* Wikimedia India Community list 
 wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 17 January 2012, 18:16

 *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would
 Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?



 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 18:07, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually I do because there is a note: I*mportant Note : The publisher
 ( The Indian Express ) of the above news article owns the copyrights of the
 article / content. Request to kindly not reproduce or circulate the
 content further. The information is only shared only with an internal
 community who have been featured on this article.  All copyrights are duly
 acknowledged.* (bold is mine)


 You are free to forward just the links. Reproducing verbatim elsewhere
 might not go well with fair use. Also heard elsewhere on another list on
 the same topic that news is meant to be shared, so no harm. Frankly all
 this obsession on copyright only after editing Wikipedia, otherwise since
 when people in India thought of copyright seriously.

 --
 Regards
 Srikanth.L

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?

2012-01-17 Thread Ashwin Baindur
You know me thinks that  WikiProject India should start giving out WITI
passports (Wikipedia interested in things Indian) ;)

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
--


On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote:

 You don't have the blue Indian passport yet.

 :p

 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

 /me is proud of being indian too





 Oh, I forgot I'm not indian! ;)
 _
 *Béria Lima*
  http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484

 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
 livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
 construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos*


 On 17 January 2012 12:23, Mandar Kulkarni mvkulkarn...@yahoo.co.ukwrote:

 Srikanth,

 There is copyright law in India for last many decades and most people
 were/are following the same before wikipedia had not taken a birth. There
 is no need to make generic comments on Indians for no reason. We are
 Indians and we should be proud of that.


 With Regards,

 Mandar V. Kulkarni
 http://mr.wikipedia.org

   --
 *From:* Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com
 *To:* Wikimedia India Community list 
 wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 17 January 2012, 18:16

 *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would
 Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?



 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 18:07, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually I do because there is a note: I*mportant Note : The publisher
 ( The Indian Express ) of the above news article owns the copyrights of the
 article / content. Request to kindly not reproduce or circulate the
 content further. The information is only shared only with an internal
 community who have been featured on this article.  All copyrights are duly
 acknowledged.* (bold is mine)


 You are free to forward just the links. Reproducing verbatim elsewhere
 might not go well with fair use. Also heard elsewhere on another list on
 the same topic that news is meant to be shared, so no harm. Frankly all
 this obsession on copyright only after editing Wikipedia, otherwise since
 when people in India thought of copyright seriously.

 --
 Regards
 Srikanth.L

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?

2012-01-17 Thread Béria Lima
I have a blue Brazilian one, is good enough? (At least is the same colour
;) )
_
*Béria Lima*
http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484

*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos*


On 17 January 2012 12:50, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote:

 You don't have the blue Indian passport yet.

 :p

 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

 /me is proud of being indian too





 Oh, I forgot I'm not indian! ;)
 _
 *Béria Lima*
  http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484

 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
 livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
 construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos*


 On 17 January 2012 12:23, Mandar Kulkarni mvkulkarn...@yahoo.co.ukwrote:

 Srikanth,

 There is copyright law in India for last many decades and most people
 were/are following the same before wikipedia had not taken a birth. There
 is no need to make generic comments on Indians for no reason. We are
 Indians and we should be proud of that.


 With Regards,

 Mandar V. Kulkarni
 http://mr.wikipedia.org

   --
 *From:* Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com
 *To:* Wikimedia India Community list 
 wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 17 January 2012, 18:16

 *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Indian Express : Would
 Gandhi have been a Wikipedian?



 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 18:07, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually I do because there is a note: I*mportant Note : The publisher
 ( The Indian Express ) of the above news article owns the copyrights of the
 article / content. Request to kindly not reproduce or circulate the
 content further. The information is only shared only with an internal
 community who have been featured on this article.  All copyrights are duly
 acknowledged.* (bold is mine)


 You are free to forward just the links. Reproducing verbatim elsewhere
 might not go well with fair use. Also heard elsewhere on another list on
 the same topic that news is meant to be shared, so no harm. Frankly all
 this obsession on copyright only after editing Wikipedia, otherwise since
 when people in India thought of copyright seriously.

 --
 Regards
 Srikanth.L

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