Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Philosophical view on Google translated articles

kimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 1:03:24 AM > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Philosophical view on Google translated > articles > > Hello Srikanth, On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Srikanth > Ramakrishnan < > href="mailto:rsrikant...@gm

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Philosophical view on Google translated articles

Hello Srikanth, On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan wrote: > Samuel, > As a Vandalism reverter on the English Wikipedia, let me inform you that, > when a person posts nonsense, EVEN if it is useful, but has a problem, like > lacking sources OR, grammatical nonsense. IT still g

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Samuel, As a Vandalism reverter on the English Wikipedia, let me inform you that, when a person posts nonsense, EVEN if it is useful, but has a problem, like lacking sources OR, grammatical nonsense. IT still gets reverted, the guy gets a warning, he comes back, revert plus warn again and ultimatel

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Philosophical view on Google translated articles

Hi Sundar and Ravi, On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 2:00 AM, Ravishankar wrote: > Hi Achal and Samuel, > > Thank you for your mails. > > ***What is the board's view on paid editing?*** The foundation doesn't pay people to edit, but some third party groups have staff who contribute to WP as part of their

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Philosophical view on Google translated articles

h generally admitted." - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture - Original Message > From: BalaSundaraRaman > To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 11:08:01 AM > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Philosophical view on Go

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Hi Achal and Samuel, Thank you for your mails. ***What is the board's view on paid editing?*** I think the issue is getting diluted / distracted being seen on a translation kit based view. The issue is not the use of the GTT itself. The issue is who uses, how they use it and why they use it. M

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Hi Samuel, Thanks for the clarification. Good to know that the foundation is in the know. Ravi and I have acted as interlocutors with the Google team for Tamil Wikipedia. We have exchanged several emails and have had one conference call with the Google team. During these communications, we have

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Manish, what you say is true. Sometimes even I use Google Translator to translate simple words to Hindi, maybe because I don't know what it is, or because I know the Urdu word, whatever the reason, I still use it. The toolkit is something I don't like as it messes things up. On 21 April 2010 00:42

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The reason for sending the mail was translation memories (Which I stupidly forgot to put in) An added benefit of the kit which I forgot to mention is that you can use translation memories. In these, you can upload tran

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I agree with Shiju and Ramesh. I tried it out for Hindi. And the phrase 'A fully charged battery' got translated to what would mean a battery that got charged [the court charged]. It isn't all that accurate right now, but it may improve. While to a certain extent, it may seem like Google is catali

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Hi Shiju, Ramesh Thanks for the input. Can you update the status in ml wiki regarding Google translated articles? Seems it is banned in Bengali Wikipedia. We understand that this project is run in many Indian language Wikis but not sure of the exact list. Manish, This whole conversation is abou

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If you want to use Google translate better, try Google translator toolkit It allows you to edit the translation, which in turn helps the translation service improve (Google translate is not structure-based. It learns translations from mass input) Plus, it allo

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Philosophical view on Google translated articles

I have tried the google translator to translate some en article into Malayalam. around 5, 6. The difficulty which I felt was the word to word translation. We have a difference in style. Though we translate content of lot en wiki articles to ML, we dont do it as a word by word. we need to change th

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Ravi, Here is my view on your questions. However, a majority of the Tamil Wiki community is showing stiff resistance > for this operation. > I too support them :). Word-to-word translation is not good from the reader point of view. It may kill the project also. 1. Is Paid editing against Wikip