Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Videos on You Tube --> CC

2017-10-25 Thread Robin Owain
Thanks Fae, especially the link to the recent development of 3d files. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2017/05#Preparing_for_3D_models_on_Commons Nearly there! Robin > > On 25 October 2017 at 10:23 Fæ wrote: > > This is a slight tangent from YouTube,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Videos on You Tube --> CC

2017-10-25 Thread John Lubbock
There were actually a lot of discussions at Wikimania about how to get to a point where commonly used file types are allowed to be used. Perhaps I’ll write a blog post about it which might help inform this discussion. On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 at 09:50, Rex X wrote: > Commons does not allow "normal vi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Videos on You Tube --> CC

2017-10-25 Thread
This is a slight tangent from YouTube, but it is unfair to say "no progress". As per Rex, when the encoding is assessed as open* then there is plenty of interest to ensure Wikimedia Commons accepts the new standards. More generally there was a big discussion on Commons (2 years ago I think) about w

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Videos on You Tube --> CC

2017-10-25 Thread Rex X
Commons does not allow "normal video file types" because many of them contain proprietary coding. Part of our mission is to encourage the growth of open resources and that includes open software and open standards. Commons takes that seriously and it's important that we do as well. Even if it seem

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Videos on You Tube --> CC

2017-10-24 Thread Deryck Chan
Commons is a very risk-averse community. They require independent confirmation of open copyright licensing for everything that has previously been published by a reputable content publisher, and generally assumes incompetence and defaults to deletion if their queries go unanswered. -Deryck On 24

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Videos on You Tube --> CC

2017-10-24 Thread John Lubbock
Is the plan to transfer them from YouTube via Video2Commons? In the past, I've found that this tool often fails. It really is a shame that no progress has been made on allowing normal video file types. John Lubbock Communications Coordinator Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 203 372 0767 Wikimedia UK is

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Videos on You Tube --> CC

2017-10-24 Thread Michael Maggs
Change at You Tube would be best actually, but I'd understood from your message that for whatever reason S4C have not managed to change the publicly visible You Tube licences. Shall we discuss in more detail off list? Michael > On 24 Oct 2017, at 10:39, Robin Owain wrote: > > Thanks Michae

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Videos on You Tube --> CC

2017-10-24 Thread Robin Owain
Thanks Michael! You recommend OTRS rather than change at You Tube? OK, I'll take your lead on this and email you asap. Many thanks Robin > On 24 October 2017 at 10:29 Michael Maggs wrote: > > Yes I can help. > > To ensure the videos aren't challenged on Commons we'll need formal

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Videos on You Tube --> CC

2017-10-24 Thread Michael Maggs
Yes I can help. To ensure the videos aren't challenged on Commons we'll need formal confirmation from an authorised person at S4C to be sent to OTRS. If you could privately let me know details of the person who could provide the necessary confirmation I can draft a suitable email for them to s

[Wikimediauk-l] Videos on You Tube --> CC

2017-10-24 Thread Robin Owain
S4C have agreed to change their 'Usual You Tube licence' of videos on their 2017 Royal Welsh Show account (and previous years) to CCBYSA. This means we can upload around 2,000 videos to Commons. It also means that S4C, for the first time, have discussed and understood legality and benefits of op