Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

Anyway, Sam, please continue the development of the Ws-search. I just played with it a bit, but I find this to be an excellent tool for 1. importing data from WS to WD 2. *maintaining* WD up to date Point 2 is important as point 1. Maintenance is impossible if you can't do queries on WD or a

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

Hi, Wikidata is a list of facts, so I don't see how any other license would be appropriate. It is similar to copyright on patents and facts, as some commercial entities have tried to impose. I am obviously against that. I am also against copyright restrictions for databases, as they existed in

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

I've been experimenting with pulling editions' author information in from Wikidata, and it's reasonably easy if wea) look at the immediate page's WD item, and see if it's got an author;b if it doesn't, traverse up via P629 to the work, and see if it's got an author.If neither of those things

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

Hey everyone, I seize the opportunity of this planed import to make you aware that I started a project research on Wikiversity about Wikidata and its license :

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

Authors from Italian Wikisource have already a lot (if not all) metadata on Wikidata: authors are *easy* compared to books (don't have the whole work-edition issue), so I think that users Candalua, Alex brollo and others solved this problem long ago. When you've copied all the metadata from WS

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

Yes you definitely need this flow of useful interproject links both ways: as a trigger for Wikidatans to do more with Wikisource pages, and as a trigger to Wikisourcerers to do more with Wikidata items On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Sam Wilson wrote: > Yup, still true.

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

Yup, still true. We do at least have a common goal of structured HTML, as defined by http://schema.org/CreativeWork It sounds like Tpt's scraper will do wonders, if a Wikisource just complies to that. I think that's one of the next steps we need to take. I sort of figure from the English

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

@Sam, Tpt, my personal experience is too that HTML is the way to pull out the Wikisource important metadata, but it's also that every Wikisource has sort of a different way to show them, meaning that you need to tweak your scraper for each Wikisource. Is that still true? Last time I did it was

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

And I guess that's independent of the actual titles of the editions? I mean, different editions could have different titles, but you'd still list them all on the same Opera page? So, if we were focusing only on pages that are not yet linked to Wikidata, for Italian it'd be easy in that anything in

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

>From a Wikidata point of view, it's really good to have one dedicated page ofr the "work" and different ones for the "editions": you can structure both Wikisource and Wikidata with a clear structure, without ambiguities. This is an example of a Wikisource Work page:

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

2017-10-31 18:45 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni : > For the "work" concept, Italian Wikisource decided to create a real and > new namespace, "Opera" (which means work). > It's the one page where we store the links to multiple editions of a > certain book we have. > > It's not a

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

For the "work" concept, Italian Wikisource decided to create a real and new namespace, "Opera" (which means work). It's the one page where we store the links to multiple editions of a certain book we have. It's not a disambiguation page in the sense that a disambiguation page works with different

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

An other point: here is a link to your 'Wikidata project" on the french Wikisource. We plan to build here to document what we do around Wikisource: https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Projet_Wikidata Sorry for the spam, Cheers, Thomas > Le 31 oct. 2017 à 16:14, Thomas Pellissier Tanon

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

Hello Sam, Thank you for this nice feature! I have created a few months ago a prototype of Wikisource to Wikidata importation tool for the French Wikisource based on the schema.org annotation I have added to the main header template (I definitely think we should move from our custom

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

2017-10-31 13:16 GMT+01:00 Jane Darnell : > Sorry, I am much more of a Wikidatan than a Wikisourcerer! I was referring > to items like this one > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21125368 > No need to be sorry, that is actually a good question and this example is even better (I

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

Sorry, I am much more of a Wikidatan than a Wikisourcerer! I was referring to items like this one https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21125368 On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Nicolas VIGNERON < vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2017-10-31 10:00 GMT+01:00 Jane Darnell : > >> We

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

2017-10-31 10:00 GMT+01:00 Jane Darnell : > We want the disambiguation pages on Wikisource - I checked a few of these > and there are a lot of women and "younger sons" in them that we want. Also, > many can be connected to existing "family of ..." pages or name > disambiguation

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

We want the disambiguation pages on Wikisource - I checked a few of these and there are a lot of women and "younger sons" in them that we want. Also, many can be connected to existing "family of ..." pages or name disambiguation pages - they definitely help enrich our understanding of the problems

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

> > Yes it's certainly a first draft!! :-) Thanks for trying it out. > > With the disambig pages, can you suggest how to detect them? > Not sure. Could you detect the presence of the Q6148868 templates ? (and same thing for Q15701815 ). Or else maybe with the categories. > Ah, there's a couple

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

On Tue, 31 Oct 2017, at 04:04 PM, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote: > 2017-10-31 5:21 GMT+01:00 Sam Wilson : >> I've just been experimenting with adding a quick-statements generator to >> https://tools.wmflabs.org/ws-search — search for something, with 'linked >> to wikidata = no',

Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

2017-10-31 5:21 GMT+01:00 Sam Wilson : > I've just been experimenting with adding a quick-statements generator to > https://tools.wmflabs.org/ws-search — search for something, with 'linked > to wikidata = no', and then each row of the results has a popup with > code you can