Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

2020-03-14 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi Om, Thanks for your concern. Yes, the problem of copyright with different Indian digital libraries collection is quite well known. The most famous example is the Digital Library of India, which was closed down due to copyright infringement. The difference between NDLI and other Indian digital

Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

2020-03-14 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi Asaf, We acknowledge your concern. When we had meetings with NDLI, we specifically discussed about "their contents" to be published under CC-BY-SA, if we are going to include them on Wikimedia Commons and they primarily agreed on that. They have very good knowledge about different Creative

Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

2020-03-14 Thread omshivaprak...@gmail.com
We have had great problem with earlier digital library projects which government undertook. 36 scan centers/hubs millions of books without copyright verification (note: many won’t go through proper copyright process in India) and the entire project was shutdown making the works inaccessible to

Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

2020-03-14 Thread Asaf Bartov
Yes. I referred to "their content" in Bodhisattwa's statement. PD metadata is not "their content", really. A. Asaf Bartov (he/him/his) Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities Wikimedia Foundation Imagine a world in which every single

Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

2020-03-14 Thread Ankry
I don't think there is a problem here. From the copyright point of view, the content we want to copy from them is PD (expired copyright). The problem was their ToU that did not allow commercial republishing. If we republished without permission, then they would accuse us a violation of ToU

Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

2020-03-14 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 20:03 Bodhisattwa Mandal wrote: > Hi Ankry, > > As part of the understanding, NDLI is giving permission to use their > contents to be used on Wikimedia sites as needed. > This is of course not enough. Permission must be given to the entire world, not to Wikimedia sites

Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

2020-03-14 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi Ankry, As part of the understanding, NDLI is giving permission to use their contents to be used on Wikimedia sites as needed. Also, anything not compatible with Wikimedia sites and licensing will not be uploaded in any way. Regards, Bodhisattwa On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 19:55, Ankry wrote: >

Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

2020-03-14 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi Nicolas, Thanks for your reply and interest in the partnership. It was discussed during the Delhi meeting that as a first step, NDLI will come up with a unique authority control for the authors listed in their website and we will match them with corresponding Wikidata items, thus starting to

Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

2020-03-14 Thread Ankry
I'm just looking at them. They have restriction for non-commercial use of their content in their ToU. So uploading anything to Commons without their explicit permission may be against their ToU (even if consistent with copyright law). Do we care? Ankry On 14.03.2020 11:18, Nicolas VIGNERON

Re: [Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

2020-03-14 Thread Nicolas VIGNERON
Hi, That's a really great news! Thanks for sharing it. I browse quickly the content they have and wow, this is really multilingual. I even found some bilingual books with Breton (mislabelled as French) and I saw a lot of other minority languages! Do you already know what the next steps will be?

[Wikisource-l] Memorandum of Understanding with NDLI, CIS and WMF

2020-03-14 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi all, It gives us immense pleasure to announce to the Wikimedia community that National Digital Library of India (NDLI), Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) and Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) have signed a tripartite non-binding