Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

Thanks. So now we'll have two unmaintained extensions, LQT and Flow. Can we reverse the Flow conversion on mediawiki.org now, so that the wiki stays on the luckiest side i.e. the extension which has most users and is most likely to survive in the future? (LQT is maintained by its non-Wikimedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

Ok, that is maybe correct, but what does "maintained" and "supported" mean here? There are a lot of Feature requests for Flow to make Flow at least as productive as some LQT boards, e.g. on mediawiki.org (think about the different places for support, e.g. Support desk and extension talk pages,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

On 1 September 2015 at 23:21, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Thanks. So now we'll have two unmaintained extensions, LQT and Flow. To quote Danny's email directly, "Flow will be maintained and supported". Your supposition that the extension will be unmaintained is not

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

On 2 September 2015 at 14:51, Risker wrote: > I want to thank the Collaboration team for taking this brave step - and > yes, it's a brave step. The natural trajectory of large projects that don't > quite seem to meet their promise is to keep going and going until everyone >

Re: [Wikitech-l] "Try the free Wikipedia app" banners

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:10 PM, Oliver Keyes wrote: > > What was the publicising of the campaign prior to its launch? > > It should be pretty apparent to people with experience within the > movement that this would be both entirely novel and pretty > controversial. As

Re: [Wikitech-l] "Try the free Wikipedia app" banners

> On Sep 2, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Gergo Tisza wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Oliver Keyes wrote: > >> For what it's worth, the line " For one thing, they can turn out >> negative, in which case we will have been spared a philosophical >>

[Wikitech-l] mailman upgrade next week - Sep 9th 1400 UTC

Hi, We have scheduled an upgrade of mailman (https://lists.wikimedia.org) for: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 2:00:00 PM UTC ( 7:00 AM PDT, 16:00 CEST) The scheduled mainteance window is 4 hours (or less). During this time please expect all the mailing lists (web interface and email) to be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

I don't know if this is correct place to bring this idea, but [[Extension:PageTriage]] is good example of a starting point. Is there any plans to work on it by collaboration team? Best On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:50 PM Roan Kattouw wrote: > On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 6:21 AM,

Re: [Wikitech-l] "Try the free Wikipedia app" banners

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Oliver Keyes wrote: > > And without any answer to my question about whether this was an actual > A/B test, and whether you're measuring overall user utility rather > than 'did they download it', this is also highly subjective and costly >

Re: [Wikitech-l] New RFC: better JS minification

2015-09-02 1:53 GMT+02:00 MZMcBride : > Ori Livneh wrote: >>On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Jérémie Roquet >>wrote: >>> Has the RFC been abandonned because of lack of interest? >> >>Speaking for myself: at the time the RFC was written, I was skeptical

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2015-08

On 02/09/15 00:12, Quim Gil wrote: Wikimedia Phabricator will be soon one year old! On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:00 AM, wrote: Number of accounts created in (2015-08): 288 Kind of surprised about the fact that we keep having almost ten new Phabricator users

Re: [Wikitech-l] New RFC: better JS minification

> On 3 Sep 2015, at 01:02, Jérémie Roquet wrote: > > 2015-09-02 1:53 GMT+02:00 MZMcBride : >> [..] our code. As expected, we've encountered a number of bugs that >> disappear when the debug=true URL parameter is specified. > > [..] > > As for bugs, I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Firrre: free IRC bouncer for FOSS projects

I tried to get in a while ago but never heard back. I tried again when I received your letter and was accepted. Looking forward to not missing messages. Thanks! --stephen On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Jamison Lofthouse < jamison.loftho...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yep. Pretty good service. Been

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Risker wrote: > I am certain once the team has a chance to refocus, they may choose to > examine workflows that are common across multiple Wikimedia projects that > would benefit from improvement. Off the top of my head, creating a >

Re: [Wikitech-l] "Try the free Wikipedia app" banners

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Brandon Harris wrote: > >> On Sep 2, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Gergo Tisza wrote: >> >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Oliver Keyes wrote: >> >>> For what it's worth, the line " For one thing, they can

Re: [Wikitech-l] "Try the free Wikipedia app" banners

Le 01/09/2015 17:30, Ori Livneh a écrit : > We appear to be running a banner campaign on the mobile web site, driving > people to download the mobile app: > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/?banner=Aug2015_app_banner_2 > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/?banner=Aug2015_app_banner_1 > > Campaign

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 6:21 AM, David Gerard wrote: > Did the stuff to port LQT threads/pages to Flow ever make it to > production quality? > > It was used to convert all LQT pages on mediawiki.org, including [[mw:Support desk]] which is probably the largest LQT page that has

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

On 09/02/2015 12:35 PM, David Gerard wrote: On 2 September 2015 at 14:51, Risker wrote: I want to thank the Collaboration team for taking this brave step - and yes, it's a brave step. The natural trajectory of large projects that don't quite seem to meet their promise is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

On 09/02/2015 02:21 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Thanks. So now we'll have two unmaintained extensions, LQT and Flow. As noted, Flow is not unmaintained. Can we reverse the Flow conversion on mediawiki.org now, so that the wiki stays on the luckiest side i.e. the extension which has most

[Wikitech-l] 2015-09-02 Scrum of Scrums notes

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Scrum_of_scrums/2015-09-02 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Roan Kattouw wrote: > I don't think we currently have good documentation on how you can convert > your own wiki, but AFAIK "simply" running the convertAllLqtPages.php > maintenance script on a wiki that has both LQT and Flow installed

Re: [Wikitech-l] "Try the free Wikipedia app" banners

On 09/02/2015 03:55 PM, Ryan Lane wrote: Even ignoring the "is it right and ethical" debate, there's a pretty large amount of research over the past 6 or so months that show this is a bad idea. [citation needed] Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

On 09/02/2015 09:21 AM, David Gerard wrote: On 2 September 2015 at 07:27, Dan Garry wrote: On 1 September 2015 at 23:21, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Thanks. So now we'll have two unmaintained extensions, LQT and Flow. To quote Danny's email

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

1. Regarding Flow and LQT on mediawiki.org: On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Can we reverse the Flow conversion on mediawiki.org now, Technically, I think that would be challenging. All LiquidThreads carefully redirect to Flow topics, e.g.

Re: [Wikitech-l] "Try the free Wikipedia app" banners

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Gergo Tisza wrote: > On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 10:09 PM, Ori Livneh wrote: > > > Just in time! > > http://techcrunch.com/2015/09/01/death-to-app-install-interstitials/ > > > Interstitials are full-page ads where you have to

Re: [Wikitech-l] "Try the free Wikipedia app" banners

On 2 September 2015 at 14:17, Gergo Tisza wrote: > On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Oliver Keyes wrote: > >> For what it's worth, the line " For one thing, they can turn out >> negative, in which case we will have been spared a philosophical >> debate

Re: [Wikitech-l] "Try the free Wikipedia app" banners

Hi all -- I'm going to try to address as many of the issues mentioned in this thread and the Phabricator ticket[1] as I can. I'm going to preface this by explaining why we're doing this. First of all, this is only a test in order to increase our understanding of how our readers interact with our

Re: [Wikitech-l] "Try the free Wikipedia app" banners

Il 02/09/2015 22:26, Antoine Musso ha scritto: Le 01/09/2015 17:30, Ori Livneh a écrit : We appear to be running a banner campaign on the mobile web site, driving people to download the mobile app: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/?banner=Aug2015_app_banner_2

[Wikitech-l] Please welcome ext.centralNotice.display

Hi! This is just a heads-up to say that today we're deploying a significant refactor of client-side CentralNotice code! Please welcome ext.centralNotice.display, who will be taking over from ext.centralNotice.bannerController. If all goes well, today will be bannerController's last day on

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2015-08

2015. 9. 2. 오후 7:47에 "Andre Klapper" 님이 작성: > > On Wed, 2015-09-02 at 06:53 +0900, Yongmin Hong wrote: > > 2015. 9. 1. 오후 7:18에 님이 작성: > > > Needs Volunteer: 16678 > > > > I thought this "Needs Volunteer" has been renamed to "Lowest" a while

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

I want to thank the Collaboration team for taking this brave step - and yes, it's a brave step. The natural trajectory of large projects that don't quite seem to meet their promise is to keep going and going until everyone is burnt out, and it is courageous to say "this isn't going where we wanted

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2015-08

On Wed, 2015-09-02 at 06:53 +0900, Yongmin Hong wrote: > 2015. 9. 1. 오후 7:18에 님이 작성: > > Needs Volunteer: 16678 > > I thought this "Needs Volunteer" has been renamed to "Lowest" a while > ago? It has been, but the string in the script [1] has not been updated.

Re: [Wikitech-l] "Try the free Wikipedia app" banners

For what it's worth, the line " For one thing, they can turn out negative, in which case we will have been spared a philosophical debate about openness." comes off as very snarky and also entirely the wrong approach. Whether something is /within our ethos/ should not be something we discuss after

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

On 2 September 2015 at 07:27, Dan Garry wrote: > On 1 September 2015 at 23:21, Federico Leva (Nemo) > wrote: >> Thanks. So now we'll have two unmaintained extensions, LQT and Flow. > To quote Danny's email directly, "Flow will be maintained and

Re: [Wikitech-l] "Try the free Wikipedia app" banners

On 2 September 2015 at 01:50, Gergo Tisza wrote: > On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 10:09 PM, Ori Livneh wrote: > >> Just in time! >> http://techcrunch.com/2015/09/01/death-to-app-install-interstitials/ > > > Interstitials are full-page ads where you have to click