On 2015-02-16 5:07 PM, Isarra Yos wrote:
> but in general making new skins as skins is something we should be
> doing more of
I remember a time way back when we were still using QuickTemplate.
I spent some time eliminating Vector hacks and creating core features
like content_navigation that made V
On 15/02/15 21:03, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 23:14:59 +0100, Max Semenik
wrote:
Sorry for all the trolling, but why instead of discussing how we need a
responsive skin for MediaWiki and waiting for Winter to come don't we
just
do it:
* Move Minerva out of MobileFrontend
Yup!
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Tim Starling
wrote:
> On 14/02/15 09:39, Max Semenik wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Legoktm
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71366
> >
> >
> > Note that my proposal is explicitly different from Jon's plans about that
On 14/02/15 09:39, Max Semenik wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Legoktm
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71366
>
>
> Note that my proposal is explicitly different from Jon's plans about that
> bug: he wants to continue overriding special pages, etc. while I want to
>
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 23:14:59 +0100, Max Semenik
wrote:
Sorry for all the trolling, but why instead of discussing how we need a
responsive skin for MediaWiki and waiting for Winter to come don't we
just
do it:
* Move Minerva out of MobileFrontend
* Leave all mobile-specific improvements, "i
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:11 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
> Trevor Parscal wrote:
> >We really need to just evolve Vector. It's not a sacred cow, and it's sort
> >of sad how little it's been changed since I made in back in 2009. How it
> >looks, how it works and how it responds to different devices can a
Thanks, MaxSem. I'm looking forward to a skin which only does skinning.
Specific hacks/overrides are indeed best discussed elsewhere, but the
"last edited [by X] Y ago" is actually a good example. The change was
tested on desktop and a decision was made to make it permanent. Instead,
it ended
Trevor Parscal wrote:
>We really need to just evolve Vector. It's not a sacred cow, and it's sort
>of sad how little it's been changed since I made in back in 2009. How it
>looks, how it works and how it responds to different devices can all be
>changed incrementally, and we can do this without con
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Ricordisamoa
wrote:
> Can I just say that I hate it?
> It does not even give access to the talk page!
Looks like here is the best place to discuss design decisions:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Beta_Features/Minerva
--
John Vandenberg
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Can I just say that I hate it?
It does not even give access to the talk page!
Il 13/02/2015 23:14, Max Semenik ha scritto:
Sorry for all the trolling, but why instead of discussing how we need a
responsive skin for MediaWiki and waiting for Winter to come don't we just
do it:
* Move Minerva out
On Feb 13, 2015 6:15 PM, "Max Semenik" wrote:
>
> Sorry for all the trolling, but why instead of discussing how we need a
> responsive skin for MediaWiki and waiting for Winter to come don't we just
> do it:
> * Move Minerva out of MobileFrontend
> * Leave all mobile-specific improvements, "improv
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Risker wrote:
> Help me out here. Why does anyone care that the article was last edited 13
> days ago by Omeganian? And even if they do, why is that the very first
> thing that someone sees?
>
This is rather off-topic, but to answer the question it was part of a
We really need to just evolve Vector. It's not a sacred cow, and it's sort
of sad how little it's been changed since I made in back in 2009. How it
looks, how it works and how it responds to different devices can all be
changed incrementally, and we can do this without continued or additional
fragm
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Legoktm
wrote:
>
>
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71366
Note that my proposal is explicitly different from Jon's plans about that
bug: he wants to continue overriding special pages, etc. while I want to
leave everything like this outside of the skin, includ
On 2015-02-13 2:19 PM, Chad wrote:
> On Fri Feb 13 2015 at 2:15:29 PM Max Semenik wrote:
>
>> Sorry for all the trolling, but why instead of discussing how we need a
>> responsive skin for MediaWiki and waiting for Winter to come don't we just
>> do it:
>> * Move Minerva out of MobileFrontend
>> *
On 13 February 2015 at 17:25, Max Semenik wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Risker wrote:
> >
> > Help me out here. Why does anyone care that the article was last edited
> 13
> > days ago by Omeganian? And even if they do, why is that the very first
> > thing that someone sees?
> >
>
>
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Risker wrote:
>
> Help me out here. Why does anyone care that the article was last edited 13
> days ago by Omeganian? And even if they do, why is that the very first
> thing that someone sees?
>
See the part about improvements.
--
Best regards,
Max Semenik ([[U
On 13 February 2015 at 17:19, Chad wrote:
> On Fri Feb 13 2015 at 2:15:29 PM Max Semenik
> wrote:
>
> > Sorry for all the trolling, but why instead of discussing how we need a
> > responsive skin for MediaWiki and waiting for Winter to come don't we
> just
> > do it:
> > * Move Minerva out of Mo
On 02/13/2015 02:14 PM, Max Semenik wrote:
> Sorry for all the trolling, but why instead of discussing how we need a
> responsive skin for MediaWiki and waiting for Winter to come don't we just
> do it:
> * Move Minerva out of MobileFrontend
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71366
-- Legoktm
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On Fri Feb 13 2015 at 2:15:29 PM Max Semenik wrote:
> Sorry for all the trolling, but why instead of discussing how we need a
> responsive skin for MediaWiki and waiting for Winter to come don't we just
> do it:
> * Move Minerva out of MobileFrontend
> * Leave all mobile-specific improvements, "i
Sorry for all the trolling, but why instead of discussing how we need a
responsive skin for MediaWiki and waiting for Winter to come don't we just
do it:
* Move Minerva out of MobileFrontend
* Leave all mobile-specific improvements, "improvements" and hacks in MF
* Polish Minerva to do everythig a
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