[Wikitech-l] where is documentation for new wikibugs bot

2014-04-27 Thread Petr Bena
There is a new bot for wikibugs but it doesn't seem to reply very well to basic CTCP messages and provides no link to its documentation. Where can it be found? How is the bot controlled? How do I make it join some channel and subscribe to a feed? ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] where is documentation for new wikibugs bot

2014-04-27 Thread Petr Bena
it would be also cool if source code was somewhere readable by public On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: There is a new bot for wikibugs but it doesn't seem to reply very well to basic CTCP messages and provides no link to its documentation. Where can

Re: [Wikitech-l] where is documentation for new wikibugs bot

2014-04-27 Thread Petr Bena
, given that making reliable bot that is able to autorejoin / reconnect on netsplits that happen often, isn't that easy. On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: it would be also cool if source code was somewhere readable by public On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Petr

Re: [Wikitech-l] where is documentation for new wikibugs bot

2014-04-27 Thread Petr Bena
On 27 April 2014 10:00, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: it would be also cool if source code was somewhere readable by public On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: There is a new bot for wikibugs but it doesn't seem to reply very well to basic CTCP messages

Re: [Wikitech-l] where is documentation for new wikibugs bot

2014-04-27 Thread Petr Bena
is, I said it would be nice to have it somewhere. Regarding documentation: even the e-mail you linked here doesn't provide any, so, yes I admit I didn't search for it, but if I did, I would still had the same question :P On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 5:11 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Petr

Re: [Wikitech-l] recent changes stream

2014-05-05 Thread Petr Bena
Given the current specifications I can only support this change as long as current IRC feed is preserved as IRC is IMHO, as much as evil it looks, more suitable for this than WebSockets. I am not saying that IRC is suitable for this and I know that people really wanted to get rid of it or replace

Re: [Wikitech-l] recent changes stream

2014-05-05 Thread Petr Bena
, May 5, 2014 at 2:29 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Given the current specifications I can only support this change as long as current IRC feed is preserved as IRC is IMHO, as much as evil it looks, more suitable for this than WebSockets. I am not saying that IRC is suitable

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Labs-l] Travelling Labs!

2014-05-06 Thread Petr Bena
Looking forward to drinking beer with you guys :3 On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: Hey all, Me and Andrew Bogott will be travelling to Zürich for the Hackaton[1] in the coming days; this means limited online availability during actual travel time, but

[Wikitech-l] Huggle3 @ Zurich hackaton

2014-05-07 Thread Petr Bena
Hi all, Some of you might heard of it, some of you probably know it or even regularly use it - huggle is a super fast diff browser for MediaWiki intended for dealing with vandalism on Wikimedia projects (but it can be used for any installation), written in C++. It is being used on a number of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Login to Wikimedia Phabricator with a GitHub/Google/etc account?

2014-05-16 Thread Petr Bena
Yes. Support as many providers as possible, google at least, I basically don't even want to use any more web services with own login unless I have to. single login FTW On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Chris Steipp cste...@wikimedia.org wrote: On May 15, 2014 3:56 PM, hoo h...@online.de wrote:

[Wikitech-l] Do we have any data in wikidata / wiktionary that could be used for mechanic translations?

2014-05-22 Thread Petr Bena
I was looking for a free (possibly open source) provider of automatic translations for my open source application I am working on and quite had troubles finding some. Then I realized we have a project called wiktionary which could possibly (I was assuming it's open dictionary) help me here, but I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Do we have any data in wikidata / wiktionary that could be used for mechanic translations?

2014-05-22 Thread Petr Bena
that, but IMHO it should be easier. On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: I was looking for a free (possibly open source) provider of automatic translations for my open source

Re: [Wikitech-l] Do we have any data in wikidata / wiktionary that could be used for mechanic translations?

2014-05-22 Thread Petr Bena
) and isn't very open (source code is closed and user ability to edit database is nowhere near to what people can do on real wikis, like wikipedia) On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: I was looking for a free (possibly open source) provider of automatic translations

Re: [Wikitech-l] Do we have any data in wikidata / wiktionary that could be used for mechanic translations?

2014-05-22 Thread Petr Bena
this isn't about translation of content of current wikimedia projects, but more about creating a generic tool that anyone could use to translate anything, so not really what [[Content translation]] describes On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Gabriel Wicke gwi...@wikimedia.org wrote: This is

[Wikitech-l] Huggle 3 released / Mac people needed

2014-06-01 Thread Petr Bena
Good news Everyone refhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2BNmn8TYdE/ref We just released a stable version of huggle 3 which is likely full of some unstable features (some call these bugs). DWRTLD (don't want to read too long documents): Huggle is a fast-diff browser for mediawiki that allows you

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Huggle] Huggle 3 released / Mac people needed

2014-06-01 Thread Petr Bena
it (the latest version) please provide details. Thanks On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: We didn't release any mac bundle, because we have nobody with a mac in our team, so in case you

[Wikitech-l] Preventing MW from adding a page to watchlist

2014-06-10 Thread Petr Bena
There is no mention of this feature in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Rollback but according to Helder in this bug report https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66273 mediawiki insert every page to which a rollback api was used on to a users watchlist. Is there a way to disable it?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Preventing MW from adding a page to watchlist

2014-06-10 Thread Petr Bena
That's what I needed - I prefer using documentation rather than random options :) Thanks On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:57 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: There is no mention of this feature in https

[Wikitech-l] Ensure that user is logged in

2014-06-19 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, Is there some effective way to do this? We are using only mw api's in latest huggle, and somehow it happens that when users are logged out of mediawiki, it still works (edits are done using IP instead). How can I ensure that api query will fail unless user is not logged in, is there some

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ensure that user is logged in

2014-06-19 Thread Petr Bena
:52 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Is there some effective way to do this? We are using only mw api's in latest huggle, and somehow it happens that when users are logged out of mediawiki, it still works (edits are done using IP instead). How can I ensure that api query will fail

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ensure that user is logged in

2014-06-19 Thread Petr Bena
?title=API:Editdiff=410992oldid=404971 On 19 June 2014 14:27, Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:16:22 +0200, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Petr Bena wrote: Can this parameter be anywhere in the url? for example api.php?action=queryassert=userprop=blabla

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ensure that user is logged in

2014-06-19 Thread Petr Bena
In general I would extend this: you should never rely on other programmers assuming they did things correctly because we are lazy morons On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: At some point it makes sense. You shouldn't rely on servers :P I am placing token as last

[Wikitech-l] Save sorting order in bugzilla

2014-06-22 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, I like to sort items by priority but always I change this, when I reopen the page it's lost and I have to change it again. Is there a way to save this in bugzilla so that I always have bugs by priority instead of component? I have cookies enabled but it doesn't help

[Wikitech-l] bugzilla: keyword for every language

2014-06-25 Thread Petr Bena
Can we have that? so that people can filter out bugs that are require skills for certain languages only? For example if I needed to fix something that is C++ I would just tag it so, same for PHP, JS, etc... So that C++ devs could filter out only all bugs that require C++ knowledge and see all

Re: [Wikitech-l] bugzilla: keyword for every language

2014-06-25 Thread Petr Bena
aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 10:44 +0200, Petr Bena wrote: Can we have that? so that people can filter out bugs that are require skills for certain languages only? For example if I needed to fix something that is C++ I would just tag it so, same for PHP, JS, etc... So that C

Re: [Wikitech-l] bugzilla: keyword for every language

2014-06-25 Thread Petr Bena
think wikimedia could get inspired a bit (this idea is actually not from my head) :P On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: No, they wouldn't need to do this, it would more like optional feature for new bugs and only for these which are created by person who need

Re: [Wikitech-l] bugzilla: keyword for every language

2014-06-25 Thread Petr Bena
ok that seems to be good enough for me. What is actually difference between these keywords and white-board if it can serve the same purpose? On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 13:51 +0200, Petr Bena wrote: it maybe works for large

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mentors participating in GSoC Reunion (was Re: IMPORTANT: GSoC OPW mid-term evaluations)

2014-07-09 Thread Petr Bena
I totaly agree with this, I didn't even notice original mail. Give us moar mails pls next time :) On Jul 9, 2014 5:42 PM, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/07/14 10:38, Quim Gil wrote: Siebrand and Kartik have been selected to participate in the GSoC Reunion o behalf of Wikimedia.

Re: [Wikitech-l] recent changes stream

2014-07-11 Thread Petr Bena
(with the obvious reasonably long deprecation period). Alex On 5 May 2014 10:29, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Given the current specifications I can only support this change as long as current IRC feed is preserved as IRC is IMHO, as much as evil it looks, more suitable for this than WebSockets

Re: [Wikitech-l] recent changes stream

2014-07-11 Thread Petr Bena
in replacing one technology with worse one and forcing everyone to use it? On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Le 05/05/2014 11:29, Petr Bena a écrit : Given the current specifications I can only support this change as long as current IRC feed is preserved as IRC

Re: [Wikitech-l] recent changes stream

2014-07-11 Thread Petr Bena
you shut it off On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:09 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: right now it seems to me worse in many points: * it requires more traffic (slower and ineffective) * it requires some extra libraries that enlarge dependency tree * protocol itself is extra complicated

Re: [Wikitech-l] recent changes stream

2014-07-11 Thread Petr Bena
Also https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67888 needs to be fixed so that people have some chance to test if their tools works with websocket at least few months before switch to it On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: BTW do you have any use data

Re: [Wikitech-l] Naigos and Icinga

2014-07-18 Thread Petr Bena
Even these multi-use machines we have infront of us are still called computers although they are rarely used for computing :P On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: I imagine old names die hard. People still say mysql instead of mariadb. Most of the varnish

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator migration update

2014-07-23 Thread Petr Bena
when do you plan to launch fabricator on production? I would like to be a guinea pig with a number of small projects (wm-bot and huggle for beginning) On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Florian Schmidt florian.schmidt.wel...@t-online.de wrote: Hello Andre! teams are definitely welcome to try

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Labs-l] Brief Labs outage

2014-08-01 Thread Petr Bena
No such a dashboard, we have(d) icinga and ganglia, IDK if it's operational though... problem of these 2 is that they are maintained primarily by puppet, which for good reasons is loathed by many and disabled or killed on many instances, which result in these monitoring tools being defunct there.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Snuggle, Huggle, and VandalSniper

2014-08-05 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, If you found anything that VandalSniper can do and huggle can't, you can request it as a new feature and it will likely be there in next version, quick overview - this is what it has on its page * Unlimited browser tabs. - we don't have tabs in huggle now because I lack any use for them *

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-06 Thread Petr Bena
The Chosen One's API. In short: Tchopi :P Do we really need to call it somehow? When you will say api 99% of people who know mediawiki a bit will go for api.php. Special naming should be used just for the other weird api's that nobody is ever going to use anyway. Btw, why do we need to have them

Re: [Wikitech-l] News about stolen Internet credentials; reducing Wikimedia reliance on usernames and passwords

2014-08-07 Thread Petr Bena
Hm... and I am a lazy hacker, so now when you told us your password, could you please give me your username as well so that I don't have to search it? Thanks! :P On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: I'm lazy and wouldn't want the burden of remembering more than

Re: [Wikitech-l] News about stolen Internet credentials; reducing Wikimedia reliance on usernames and passwords

2014-08-07 Thread Petr Bena
at all, but they weren't supported much with reason that sounded to me like nobody cares about security on projects like wikipedia On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hm... and I am a lazy hacker, so now when you told us your password, could you please give me your

[Wikitech-l] Make port 22 on gerrit.wikimedia.org default for git (same as what 29418 is now)

2014-08-26 Thread Petr Bena
gerrit.wikimedia.org is a default git gateway for all of wikimedia projects, but it still has a number of issues compared to other (IMHO better) providers, like GitHub. One of major issues I am now having is, that git needs to be accessed using non-standard port because regular ssh access is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deploying to test2 before other wikis

2012-12-18 Thread Petr Bena
It would be cool if part of that policy was testing on beta cluster which is also supposed to be identicaly configured as production and is even closer to production because the MediaWiki space is cloned from production and on beta cluster we have replicated each production wiki with its custom

[Wikitech-l] monitoring / control system for bots

2012-12-27 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, Someone once suggested we create a control panel for bots. I think the first step would be to create a page where we could see overview of all bots we are running on projects. If we create some protocol for querying bot status we could create some central monitoring server which would either:

Re: [Wikitech-l] monitoring / control system for bots

2012-12-27 Thread Petr Bena
It would be first step to solve this: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34606 + it would make it easier for bot operators to keep track of status of their services as well for community to find out why certain service is no longer available. For example if archiving bot crashes, the

Re: [Wikitech-l] monitoring / control system for bots

2012-12-27 Thread Petr Bena
, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: It would be first step to solve this: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34606 + it would make it easier for bot operators to keep track of status of their services as well for community to find out why certain service is no longer available

Re: [Wikitech-l] monitoring / control system for bots

2012-12-27 Thread Petr Bena
to use it in case it would work and people would like it. On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Bináris wikipo...@gmail.com wrote: I see. Sorry for having misspelled your name. 2012/12/27 Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com In addition, we would have a reliable list of bots running on each wiki, far

Re: [Wikitech-l] monitoring / control system for bots

2012-12-27 Thread Petr Bena
It would be kind of same as nagios, just for bots, not servers On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: For beginning it's definitely not needed to be compulsory. Whether the communities will want to have this function reliable in future if it became a standard

Re: [Wikitech-l] monitoring / control system for bots

2013-01-02 Thread Petr Bena
This is not about bot status (+bot) but about its system status (UP / DOWN etc) On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote: On 01/02/2013 03:29 AM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: He may have misspoke on the we part. However, for wikis with bot approval processes (e.g.

Re: [Wikitech-l] monitoring / control system for bots

2013-01-05 Thread Petr Bena
We already have that http://nagios.wmflabs.org/nagios3/ On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Daniel Schwen li...@schwen.de wrote: What we rather need is monitoring for the instances. My bots have not been the problem, so far the source for unreliable bot operation has been the underlying

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to contribute to sysadmin / devops

2013-01-07 Thread Petr Bena
From my point of view, this is something what will be possible in future. I thought that once we finish working on beta cluster, all deployment will be done there, and then once it is found working, it's merged with production. Now it works the other way - changes are done in production, and then

Re: [Wikitech-l] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-01-17 Thread Petr Bena
hi, Can you explain the roles of mentors and admins? Also what is requirement for participants? I suppose it's for students? On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: Surprised? Me too! Please read / watch / discuss

[Wikitech-l] Huggle is now in git

2013-01-18 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, I would like to remind even here that we have moved the source code to github this week. In case anyone is interesting in improving huggle or joining the project, you are welcome to do so: https://github.com/benapetr/huggle Please note that branch csharp is the branch containing latest

Re: [Wikitech-l] Huggle is now in git

2013-01-18 Thread Petr Bena
* in case anyone is interested in * common mistake done by me. One day I will hopefully master english :) On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I would like to remind even here that we have moved the source code to github this week. In case anyone

Re: [Wikitech-l] Huggle is now in git

2013-01-18 Thread Petr Bena
Update https://github.com/huggle/huggle this is a new url On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Bawolff Bawolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: English is a useless language anyhow. There's not even a compilier for it! -bawolff On 2013-01-18 11:49 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: * in case

[Wikitech-l] [IRC] new feature

2013-02-05 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, just wanted to inform you about new feature some of you might find useful. In case you are looking for someone and you want to be notified when they become online, you can use wm-bot for that (though it's in some wikimedia channels only, but all general dev channels are already being occupied

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge Vector extension into core

2013-02-06 Thread Petr Bena
don't merge anything into core pls. rip the stuff out of core and make extensions from them, and finally, please make core a lightweight and faster On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Matma Rex matma@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 04:31:13 +0100, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Documentation talk, the second

2013-02-07 Thread Petr Bena
start importing stuff or we create a mess On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Le 06/02/13 20:39, Petr Bena a écrit : Hi, this is a second time I am opening this - last time we decided to merge wikitech and labsconsole to make a documentation base

Re: [Wikitech-l] Documentation talk, the second

2013-02-07 Thread Petr Bena
...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone knows your phone is more powerful than half of production cluster, but now back to the business We should make a structure for this new documentation base we are going to create, I think

Re: [Wikitech-l] Developer Hub update

2013-02-08 Thread Petr Bena
Are you going to reference software that has nothing to do with mediawiki on mediawiki.org as well? if not, then keep the hub we have on meta... On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi, in the past we have been discussing the need to update

Re: [Wikitech-l] Developer Hub update

2013-02-10 Thread Petr Bena
this is not a documentation, this is a hub for people who are interested to participate on development of any wikimedia related software project, such as huggle, wm-bot, AWB and so On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Petr Bena

[Wikitech-l] Maria DB

2013-02-13 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, I have installed Maria DB to all my servers, including production servers few weeks ago, and I found it quite stable and I like it (even the command line tool for working with sql is far better than the one included in mysql pack) It's supported on all latest ubuntu versions from 10.04 UP

Re: [Wikitech-l] Maria DB

2013-02-13 Thread Petr Bena
Okay - so what is outcome? Should we migrate beta cluster? Are we going to use it in production? On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:05 AM, bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com wrote: Umm there was a thread several months ago about how it

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Labs-l] Maria DB

2013-02-13 Thread Petr Bena
on wikitech-l. Best, Asher On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 5:19 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Okay - so what is outcome? Should we migrate beta cluster? Are we going to use it in production? On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 13

Re: [Wikitech-l] Better non-MySQL db support

2013-02-25 Thread Petr Bena
I would be happy to install some mediawiki on oracle db, but I have no oracle db on any of my personal servers :/ The main problem of oracle is that it's not very much free - thus it's not packaged by most of linux vendors and it might be hard to install for many sysadmins. (In order to install

Re: [Wikitech-l] Better non-MySQL db support

2013-02-25 Thread Petr Bena
It would be best to have automated environment for this, either on labs or somewhere else. Problem is that it's not possible to install MSSQL and such on wikimedia labs given the restrictions On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Danny Joe Bauch dj.ba...@gmail.com wrote: No. The last version I got

[Wikitech-l] cleaning database of spam

2013-02-26 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, this is more related to mediawiki rather than wikimedia, but this list is being watched a bit more I guess. Is there any extension that allows permanent removal of deleted pages (or eventually selected deleted pages) from database and removal of blocked users from database? Imagine you have

Re: [Wikitech-l] cleaning database of spam

2013-02-26 Thread Petr Bena
but it will stop incrementing the datafile On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: On 26/02/13 11:57, Petr Bena wrote: Hi, this is more related to mediawiki rather than wikimedia, but this list is being watched a bit more I guess. Is there any extension

Re: [Wikitech-l] cleaning database of spam

2013-02-26 Thread Petr Bena
yes that's what I do : On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Platonides platoni...@gmail.com What is exact procedure of properly removing page from database so that it doesn't break anything? What needs to be deleted and in

Re: [Wikitech-l] cleaning database of spam

2013-02-26 Thread Petr Bena
You meant innodb_file_per_table On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: yes that's what I do : On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Platonides platoni...@gmail.com What is exact procedure

Re: [Wikitech-l] Blame maps aka authorship detection

2013-02-26 Thread Petr Bena
your site doesn't work http://blamemaps.wmflabs.org/mw/index.php/Main_Page - the connection timed out On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com wrote: I have briefly toyed with something similar. Unlike yours, it has a (very simple and rudimentary) interface, but

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Labs-l] Merging wikitech and labsconsole on Thursday at 1 PM PDT

2013-02-26 Thread Petr Bena
the labsconsole will remain operational? or it will redirect? On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote: quote name=Ryan Lane date=2013-02-26 time=14:08:59 -0800 If you believe there's a time conflict with this migration let me know and I can reschedule it.

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Merging wikitech and labsconsole on Thursday at 1 PM PDT

2013-02-26 Thread Petr Bena
I don't really see problems with view - wiki but problem might be to redirect labsconsole to wikitech, as there are some bots using labsconsole api now (these will possibly break) but not a big deal, I would rather be ready for that On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:43 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com

[Wikitech-l] Purpose of #wikimedia-dev

2013-02-27 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, as Gry in #wikipedia recently mentioned, there is no IRC channel for general wikimedia developer purposes - project wide and language wide. There are subchannels for certain projects, but no general channel for wikimedia devs of all kinds from all projects. I suppose we could use

Re: [Wikitech-l] Purpose of #wikimedia-dev

2013-02-27 Thread Petr Bena
Did you even read my e-mail? I was talking about converting current -dev to general developer channel, not about creating another channel On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-02-27 8:30 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, as Gry in #wikipedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] Purpose of #wikimedia-dev

2013-02-27 Thread Petr Bena
www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-02-27 8:30 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, as Gry in #wikipedia recently mentioned, there is no IRC channel for general wikimedia developer purposes

Re: [Wikitech-l] Nagios is dead, long live icinga!

2013-02-27 Thread Petr Bena
In addition to this I migrated labs nagios to icinga as well, few minutes ago - http://nagios.wmflabs.org/icinga/ On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Leslie Carr lc...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote: On Feb 26, 2013 11:25 PM, Matthew

Re: [Wikitech-l] Purpose of #wikimedia-dev

2013-02-27 Thread Petr Bena
... that's what gry meant On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Daniel Friesen dan...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:04:41 -0800, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:00 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Petr Bena wrote: Did you even read my e-mail? I

[Wikitech-l] Messages from badoo system

2013-02-28 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, I apologize but it seems that badoo for some silly reason, scanned my e-mail account and spammed all contacts I have there with some kind of invitation or whatever. I have no idea why it happened, but I will try to investigate it. Please discard or ignore that message. Thank you

Re: [Wikitech-l] Purpose of #wikimedia-dev

2013-02-28 Thread Petr Bena
it's blocked in my office as well, there are many ways to get through the firewall... most simple is just to install a bouncer or use irssi in a terminal of remote server if port 22 is open... On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 5:40 AM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:53

Re: [Wikitech-l] Purpose of #wikimedia-dev

2013-02-28 Thread Petr Bena
Of course it is. Amazing things happen on irc. And what happens in your office? huh? On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:20 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote

[Wikitech-l] switching to something better than irc.wikimedia.org

2013-03-01 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, I think that irc feed of recent changes is working great, but there is still a lot of space for improvement. As Ryan Lane suggested once, we could probably use system of queues instead of irc which would be even more advanced. My suggestion is to create some kind of feed that would be in

Re: [Wikitech-l] switching to something better than irc.wikimedia.org

2013-03-01 Thread Petr Bena
require implementing a daemon in the form of a maintenance script that handle the job. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:55 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Wikitech-l] switching to something better than irc.wikimedia.org

2013-03-01 Thread Petr Bena
I see that the RFC is considering multiple formats, why not support all of them? We could make the client request the format they like, either XML or JSON, that would be a matter of dispatcher how it produce the output data. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Daniel Friesen

Re: [Wikitech-l] switching to something better than irc.wikimedia.org

2013-03-01 Thread Petr Bena
instead, or vice versa. That's the whole point of a standardised format. --HM On 1 March 2013 13:48, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: I see that the RFC is considering multiple formats, why not support all of them? We could make the client request the format they like, either XML or JSON

Re: [Wikitech-l] switching to something better than irc.wikimedia.org

2013-03-01 Thread Petr Bena
OK Inserted this to hackaton topics as well... On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: The RFC doesn't seem to have gotten much interest (only a burst of edits from Krinkle in August and then it died). But interesting nonetheless. The one thing I do know is

Re: [Wikitech-l] switching to something better than irc.wikimedia.org

2013-03-01 Thread Petr Bena
format and send them to client. Sounds easy ;) On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: The problem is that while XML is widely accepted standard supported on all platforms and languages, JSON

Re: [Wikitech-l] switching to something better than irc.wikimedia.org

2013-03-01 Thread Petr Bena
hard. And what's the problem with multithreading huh? :) BTW I don't really think there is a need for multithreading at all, but even if there was, it shouldn't be so hard. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Petr Bena benap

Re: [Wikitech-l] switching to something better than irc.wikimedia.org

2013-03-01 Thread Petr Bena
Closely, but seems a bit overcomplicated to me. What I proposed is as simple as you could just use telnet to retrieve the last changes. In rabbitMQ for example you need to use 3rd libraries for client so that you can connect to server and obtain some data... But I don't have a problem with using

Re: [Wikitech-l] switching to something better than irc.wikimedia.org

2013-03-01 Thread Petr Bena
to limit the growth of subscribers as we scale. On Friday, March 1, 2013, Petr Bena wrote: I still don't see it as too much complex. Matter of month(s) for volunteers with limited time. However I quite don't see what is so complicated on last 2 points. Given the frequency of updates it's most

[Wikitech-l] LABS: removing some instances on bots project to save resources

2013-03-03 Thread Petr Bena
Because resources are expensive, we decided to make few huge instances on bots project rather than ton of small as we have now. So in upcoming weeks it would be cool to migrate all db's from sql1 sql2 and sql3 to bsql01 which has 16gb ram and 160gb storage you might want to move your bots from

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pictures from a developer's life

2013-03-04 Thread Petr Bena
LOL On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:17 PM, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote: The original tumblr blog where they appear to be from (with more) http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

[Wikitech-l] Editing wikipedia using google, openID or facebook

2013-03-07 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, we discussed OAuth many times... but - what's the current status? Do we have working extensions which support using OpenID in order to login to mediawiki, or OAuth? So that you can login using your google account or such? I believe that WMF is working on this, so can we have some update? I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Editing wikipedia using google, openID or facebook

2013-03-07 Thread Petr Bena
I just discovered this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenID why we don't have it on production? :) On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, we discussed OAuth many times... but - what's the current status? Do we have working extensions which support

Re: [Wikitech-l] Editing wikipedia using google, openID or facebook

2013-03-07 Thread Petr Bena
ah ok I was confused by it being flagged stable On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: I just discovered this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenID why we don't have

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension:OpenID 3.00 - Security Release

2013-03-07 Thread Petr Bena
This is indeed a problem but given that rename permissions are granted by default to bureaucrats who are most trusted users, and on small wikis typically sysadmins with shell access, this shouldn't be very dangerous. Sysadmin with shell access will be able to steal your identity anyway. It's a

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Labs-l] Wikimedia Hackathon Amsterdam 2013: Registration opened

2013-03-08 Thread Petr Bena
I have one question :) why the registration form is asking me which year and month I will depart? Are you afraid some attendees are planning to stay for several years? :D On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl wrote: Hi everyone, Wikimedia Nederland invites all

Re: [Wikitech-l] Live recent changes feed

2013-03-10 Thread Petr Bena
I appreciate someone does something, but this should have been more discussed. I would like to highlight that our goal should NOT be to do this a way that is most simple for developers of mediawiki to implement and most simple for devops to maintain and setup. Our goal should be to make this feed

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Alternative domains for Commons

2013-03-28 Thread Petr Bena
What about inserting another domain just to prevent confusion and to keep current redirects, which would ONLY allow api, such as commons.api.wikipedia.org the *.api.project would just be some kind of universal api gateway for all domains On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Juliusz Gonera

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Alternative domains for Commons

2013-03-28 Thread Petr Bena
with DNS On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: What about inserting another domain just to prevent confusion and to keep current redirects, which would ONLY allow api, such as commons.api.wikipedia.org the *.api.project would just be some kind of universal api gateway

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Alternative domains for Commons

2013-03-28 Thread Petr Bena
to pervent confusion? you are just sticking a extra .api in the address. On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: What about inserting another domain just to prevent confusion and to keep current redirects, which would ONLY allow api, such as commons.api.wikipedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] whatcanidoforwikipedia.org

2013-04-07 Thread Petr Bena
C# - huggle, wm-bot On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Perl (EasyTimeline) C++ (Parsoid) Prolog, Puppet Translation (translatewiki.net) And of course, there's that obvious thing that a lot of people don't realize - editing articles and

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