While browsing the web for new trends of human-horse communication horse
management, I found the website of Marjorie Smith, and I've been deeply
influenced by her; her thoughts about links between man-to-man and
man-to-horse communication - really an example of advantages of NVC - were
extremely
On 18 February 2014 07:45, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote:
...
The coverage I've read so far seems to suggest
that he had legitimate access to the data and didn't exploit
implementation details of the security system (Well the technical
implementation. Arguably he exploited
Le 18/02/2014 08:18, Philip Neustrom a écrit :
The last details on their technical infrastructure indicated that Snowden
used web crawler (love the quotes) software to obtain information from
their internal wiki:
On 18 February 2014 20:41, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:
Le 18/02/2014 08:18, Philip Neustrom a écrit :
The last details on their technical infrastructure indicated that Snowden
used web crawler (love the quotes) software to obtain information from
their internal wiki:
On 18.02.2014, 14:51 K. wrote:
On 18 February 2014 20:41, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:
From a usability point of view, I am wondering why he had to rely on a
web crawler to export the whole Wiki as HTML. For those wondering, you
could use:
Derric Atzrott writes:
Hi Derric,
Have any of you ever heard of Non-Violent Communication (NVC).
NVC is amazing and I very much encourage anyone to take it up. It goes
way beyond a method of thinking, it is a spiritual path. Like other
spiritual paths that means it may work if you practise
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:18 PM, Philip Neustrom phi...@localwiki.orgwrote:
The latest Snowden docs have some great screenshots of the NSA-internal
MediaWiki installation Snowden is alleged to have obtained a lot of his
material from:
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm starting a new RFC to discuss ways we can improve our PHP profiling.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Better_PHP_profiling
Please feel free to help expand and/or comment on the talk page if you've
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote:
A tracing infrastructure that relies on active collaboration from
application-level developers in order to function becomes extremely
fragile, and is often broken due to instrumentation bugs or omissions,
therefore
I find it fascinating what a successful meme AGF is. I was so successfully
indoctrinated by it during my first three years or so on en.wp that when I
first encountered en.wn, where they explicitly reject AGF as intrinsically
incompatible with news production, I wondered how they could possibly
Question for Derric: why didn't you formulate your suggestion using
NVC?
I was excited and in a hurry. In retrospect I really think that I should have.
After reading some of the replies I felt rather disappointed and frustrated,
and even a little sad as I didn't feel my need for understanding
Thanks for a nice tasty bikeshed on a technical mailing list.
I assume your good faith, and I foresee its consequences. You couldn't
employ your NVC skills because you were, quote, in a hurry, end quote. That
means, NVC just doesn't work when it's needed. I don't think everyone here
has a lot of
MediaWiki Bugzilla Report for February 11, 2014 - February 18, 2014
Status changes this week
Reports changed/set to UNCONFIRMED: 6
Reports changed/set to NEW: 34
Reports changed/set to ASSIGNED : 14
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 7:23 PM, Alex Monk kren...@gmail.com wrote:
Filed as https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61453
On 17 February 2014 03:00, reporter repor...@kaulen.wikimedia.org wrote:
MediaWiki Bugzilla Report for February 10, 2014 - February 17, 2014
Wikimedia
I assume your good faith, and I foresee its consequences. You couldn't
employ your NVC skills because you were, quote, in a hurry, end quote. That
means, NVC just doesn't work when it's needed. I don't think everyone here
has a lot of spare time to mix original thoughts with a dump of
That's interesting - my take on AGF always was that it was a way to
avoid assumptions - another way of saying to give people the benefit of
the doubt without being such a cliché (even though it's probably even
more of one now).
But yeah, good points.
On 18/02/14 13:43, pi zero wrote:
I find
On 18 February 2014 16:34, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote:
That's interesting - my take on AGF always was that it was a way to avoid
assumptions - another way of saying to give people the benefit of the doubt
without being such a cliché (even though it's probably even more of one
now).
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 8:48 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 18 February 2014 16:34, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote:
That's interesting - my take on AGF always was that it was a way to avoid
assumptions - another way of saying to give people the benefit of the
doubt
summary: don't reply in a hurry or when you're pissed. Try not to piss off
others and don't assume they just mean bad. Don't waste time. Stay on
topic. Humans are still humans. Be nice. Try to do better tomorrow. Kthx.
News?
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PHP 5.4 added a few important features[1], namely traits, shorthand array
syntax, and function array dereferencing. I've heard that 5.3 is nearing
end of life.
I propose we drop support for PHP 5.3 soon, if possible.
- Trevor
[1] http://php.net/manual/en/migration54.new-features.php
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
PHP 5.4 added a few important features[1], namely traits, shorthand array
syntax, and function array dereferencing. I've heard that 5.3 is nearing
end of life.
I propose we drop support for PHP 5.3 soon, if
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
I propose we drop support for PHP 5.3 soon, if possible.
Agreed, but right now both Debian oldstable and Ubuntu LTS are running on
PHP 5.3. I'm pretty sure (last time I checked) that both reach their EOL
sometime
and yes I see the paradox that I also just wrote that in a hurry and was a
little frustrated because it honestly seemed to me like those things
weren't new. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't be discussed. I'm just
personally like: 'would rather do technical stuff.. too busy..'.. finding a
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 09:51:25AM -0800, Chad wrote:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
PHP 5.4 added a few important features[1], namely traits, shorthand array
syntax, and function array dereferencing. I've heard that 5.3 is nearing
end of life.
On 02/18/2014 01:10 PM, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
However, last I heard, platform engineering is focusing on HHVM now
instead, so I'm not sure if it actually makes sense to spend resources
to move to PHP 5.4 right now.
My understanding is that those are two orthogonal questions. I don't
think
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Trevor Parscal
tpars...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
I propose we drop support for PHP 5.3 soon, if possible.
Agreed, but right now both Debian oldstable and Ubuntu LTS are running on
PHP
+1
Balance is always the trick.
On Feb 18, 2014, at 9:52 AM, Daniel Zahn dz...@wikimedia.org wrote:
and yes I see the paradox that I also just wrote that in a hurry and was a
little frustrated because it honestly seemed to me like those things
weren't new. But that doesn't mean they
I'd even condense it further:
If you are really pissed off by a mail, sleep over it before you reply.
The more you are pissed off, the more let it settle for a while.
This is even law in many places like in german, austrian or british
armies: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milit%C3%A4rische_Nacht
There are multiple readings of Assume Good Faith. I think pi zero was
pointing out that it can be used to justify 'violent' communications. Oh,
sure, it might seem like I just punched you in the nose, but you must AGF
and respond as I were just trying to kill a mosquito that happened to have
Il 18/02/2014 21:12, C. Scott Ananian ha scritto:
There are multiple readings of Assume Good Faith. I think pi zero was
pointing out that it can be used to justify 'violent' communications. Oh,
sure, it might seem like I just punched you in the nose, but you must AGF
and respond as I were just
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Vito vituzzu.w...@gmail.com wrote:
In my experience 50% of people asking to AGF'em are actually in bad faith
:D
And I guess what I'm saying is that perhaps we should be focusing our
attention on WP:CIVIL and other rules which are supposed to protect against
Il 18/02/2014 21:26, C. Scott Ananian ha scritto:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Vito vituzzu.w...@gmail.com wrote:
In my experience 50% of people asking to AGF'em are actually in bad faith
:D
And I guess what I'm saying is that perhaps we should be focusing our
attention on WP:CIVIL and
On Feb 18, 2014 4:12 PM, C. Scott Ananian canan...@wikimedia.org wrote:
There are multiple readings of Assume Good Faith. I think pi zero was
pointing out that it can be used to justify 'violent' communications. Oh,
sure, it might seem like I just punched you in the nose, but you must AGF
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote:
Even an *exceptionally* plain product like Gmail has a more specific
font family setting than Vector does at the moment.
And in Gmail, I and l look identical in the font that they chose. Often
that doesn't matter,
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
and we got very specific negative feedback about [placing free fonts
first] on the Talk page.
You also got very specific positive feedback about placing free fonts
first, and very specific negative feedback about
David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
I made the offer for an in-person conversation because I think I can
provide our office conversations with a healthy dose of Helvetica Neueh
skepticism, and I suspect Brad will be relieved that it won't be all on him
to defend his viewpoint. I also
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Steven Walling
steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote:
Even an *exceptionally* plain product like Gmail has a more specific
font family setting than Vector does at the moment.
And in Gmail, I and l look identical in the font that they chose.
Often
that doesn't
On 18 February 2014 20:26, C. Scott Ananian canan...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Vito vituzzu.w...@gmail.com wrote:
In my experience 50% of people asking to AGF'em are actually in bad faith
:D
And I guess what I'm saying is that perhaps we should be focusing our
Hi Harsh,
On 02/17/2014 08:46 AM, Harsh Kothari wrote:
Hi
Understanding how to contribute in MediaWiki is essential to new bees.
Here is the MediaWiki page
: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_contribute
I found very interesting thing for Mozilla
:
Hi Shubham,
On 02/16/2014 10:50 AM, shubham singhal wrote:
I have ideas to improve and excel interest in lay people in Gene wiki* by
including the short interesting video based learning which takes the data
from Wikimedia and create a short video which helps the people to
understand easily.
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Bryan Davis bd...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Ubuntu Server LTS versions have 5 years of support, so 12.04 will not
be EOL until April of 2017. PHP 5.3 will be EOL in July of 2014. I'm
sure that 3 year difference will be a major pain point for the Ubuntu
security
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Bryan Davis bd...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Ubuntu Server LTS versions have 5 years of support, so 12.04 will not
be EOL until April of 2017. PHP 5.3 will be EOL in July of 2014. I'm
sure that
On 2014-02-18 4:41 PM, Tyler Romeo wrote:
I strongly recommend we do so. A list of nice things about 5.4 that we'd
definitely use:
- Array literals
- $this support in closures
- Class member access based on expression
- Class member access after instantiation
- Function
Hi,
I'm curious how people would go about hiding text from the internal
MediaWiki
search engine (not external robots). Right now I'm thinking of doing a
rather
naïve .nosearch class that would be stripped before indexing. I can see
potentials
for abuse though.
Does anyone have any bright ideas?
Good goals but I think you're doing several things wrong here.
1) Attempts to pose this as an external tool. Not many people who visit the
wiki will ever learn about the external website. You're effectively opening a
new contributors influx channel while not making the life of people who reached
Chad wrote:
I'm curious how people would go about hiding text from the internal
MediaWiki search engine (not external robots). Right now I'm thinking of
doing a rather naïve .nosearch class that would be stripped before
indexing. I can see potentials for abuse though.
Does anyone have any bright
Hi.
While I certainly appreciate the creativity, the developing trend of using
Special page transclusion as a rudimentary API in Scribunto/Lua modules is
worrying and, in my opinion, should be addressed soon.
Examples (using {{Special:ListFiles/}} and {{Special:PrefixIndex/}},
respectively):
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 9:50 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Chad wrote:
I'm curious how people would go about hiding text from the internal
MediaWiki search engine (not external robots). Right now I'm thinking of
doing a rather naïve .nosearch class that would be stripped before
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:26 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
There are likely others. What can be done to address this issue?
Only way I can think of is to improve the Lua - PHP API so that users can
make the queries directly.
*-- *
*Tyler Romeo*
Stevens Institute of Technology, Class
An apropos link from daringfireball today:
http://www.jordanm.co.uk/tinytype
lists the available 'system fonts' on iOS/Android/Windows Phone/Blackberry.
For communication purposes, it would be great to fork it (
https://github.com/jordanmoore/tinytype) and add the available default
system fonts
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