80 cents on the dollar for me in southern Indiana.
Dave
Bob Moldashel wrote:
Can't be any worse than it is right now.like $104 per $100 of salary in
NY
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On 7/18/08 12:19 AM, Larry Yunker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
according to figures cited by OSHA, these so-called tower dogs
I've seen one by PacWireless and one by MTI. Does anyone know of one with
greater gain than 12.5 dBi?
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* Mike Hammett wrote, On 7/19/2008 12:40 PM:
I've seen one by PacWireless and one by MTI. Does anyone know of one with
greater gain than 12.5 dBi?
Hi Mike...ArC Wireless has some...we use them and are good Titan
Wireless carriers them.
take care leon
And these are as robust and immune from interference as Canopy?
C'mon Chuck...you know better =)
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From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Alvy?
Put it this way...do you want to pay $1000 for a CPE, or $200-300 for a CPE?
That said, it's worth noting that not all down-converted / hacked 802.11x are
created equal
Case in point...compare manufacturers who have done more work on their system
(getting into the PHY / rewriting or
Tom,
Although hardware is a portion of any product investment...more importantly,
the high costs that you see up-front have to do with the expected
amortization of RD
For example...one may ask, why are WiMAX basestations 3-8x the cost of a
proprietary base station
Well, in the international
Wu-WU Special? Or the Mr. That Said Special?
Hehe...
Maybe it's a subliminal message to get you to contact me off list =)
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Travis,
The Trango 5830 / 900 / 2400 were up/down-coverted 802.11b - not 802.11a systems
The only 802.11a multipoint system that Trango had was MM5, and it is my
understanding that (1) it was never for 900 MHz and (2) it has been put on hold
/ discontinued
-Charles
I'd love to know more about WiMAX, but I seem to get one extreme or the
other from those I talk to -- it either solves world hunger, or it's a
giant piece of crap.
Neither of the above statement have merit
Which reminds me of an interesting insight I've learned on the role of subject
matter
Iirc, there where plans for a mm2 and mm9 series...
gino
-Original Message-
From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 2:51 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
Travis,
The Trango 5830 /
Hi,
You are correct... my mistake.
However, the MM5 was going to be 5ghz along with an MM2 (2.4ghz) and MM9
(900mhz)... but as you mentioned, the products have been discontinued.
Which really leaves me wondering what Trango is going to be selling?
Their 5 year old product is getting slow, and
Their 45 has promise.
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From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
Hi,
You are correct... my mistake.
However, the
How much foliage penetration should I expect from a 900 MHz system?
I'm looking at an area which has 30' - 50' thick tree lines every 1/2 to 1.5
miles. I'm looking at 13 dBi sector with an approx 24 dB radio (figure a dB or
two for cable loss). For CPE I'm looking at 13 - 15 dB CPE antenna
Their 45 has promise.
Chuck, if you're talking about their high-bandwidth multipoint 5 GHz product,
it was recently halted / stalled / discontinued
-Charles
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No, the point to point.
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From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
Their 45 has promise.
Chuck, if you're talking about
Trango is a very opportunistic company ran by a smart and opportunistic
individual, and Z tends to chase the market that makes Z the most money (can't
really blame him, as every small business / entrepreneur ultimately employs a
similar type of strategy)...at this juncture, their cheap licensed
CopperCom... Hmmm. Taqua is still around and strong. I have a story to
tell you about Taqua someday.
Motorola: There still is no SM left behind. The 400 is a totally different
product line. But they are still coming out with new Canopy products. The
line may bifurcate, but they are still
No, the point to point.
It is a decent product, as long as you don't need it to support high pps and
can deal with occasional instability with certain types of traffic
Here, IMO, is a more promising (and cheaper) product
Here's comments from a customer's testing experience (this one had come
Yes, I have regretfully dealt with CopperCom. T.38 was broken on this and
their stance was, No one else has this problem, too bad.
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From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General
Charles,
How about selling hundreds of AP's and thousands of SU's to a single
customer... and now that's gone.
I understand selling a $10k radio has more profit than a few AP's and
SU's, but I am only ever going to buy a "few" of the $10k radio sets,
compared with literally thousands of
I have been on both ends of this as a manufacturer. I made airborne PBX
systems that were installed in the avionics bay of head-of-state, military
command and control and corporate fleet aircraft. Almost got airforce1. (I
could only do 48 phones and they needed more!) I was very proud of
My experience is that you'll get around 500 feet of solid foliage.
If you're trying to go 5 miles, you have to get the antennas WAY up in the
air, or you get serious Fresnel zone losses. This means that 900 mhz is
actually somewhat limited to smaller cells than you'd think otherwise.
Yes,
Travis,
I agree with you 100%...I still think there's a huge opportunity in the market
right now that's being missed for a solid 2nd player (not Motorola Canopy) in
the last-mile access space
However, neither you nor I run Trango
If you step back and look at the situation, this discussion is
Chuck,
I would argue that it's not really an apples-to-apples comparison for you, due
to the fact that you're just selling a passive plastic or metal device that
really doesn't go bad (I know there's always exceptions...)
Over the years, unless something arrived damaged in shipping, we have
Mike,
Take a look at tranzeofaq.com. I have a pretty good example of a 2.75
mile shot through trees with 6mbps throughput.
ryan
On Jul 19, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
How much foliage penetration should I expect from a 900 MHz system?
I'm looking at an area which has 30' - 50'
Is that elevation at the bottom?
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From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900 MHz
Yes.
ryan
On Jul 19, 2008, at 8:39 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Is that elevation at the bottom?
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From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Hi Travis,
I'm with you - the Nanostations are a pretty amazing product. I've
been deploying Nanostations on 10mhz channels in 2.4 and 5ghz with
StarOS access points and the performance/interference resistance is
pretty amazing at ANY price point. I could say the same thing for the
newer
Why not?
Isn't that kinda what Cable Cos and ILECs Do?
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: Chuck McCown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA]
Matt,
I agree with almost everything you said... except the polling part.
Having a robust, efficient polling system is the best thing available
for outdoor wireless. That is one of the main reasons we are now using
Mikrotik is because of their Nstreme and polling system. We are finding
now
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