Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount

2009-02-09 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Then you should call a sales professional vs. a sales droid. :-) Jeff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount

Re: [WISPA] HP/Lenovo Netbook

2009-02-09 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
The thread under the article really does show how poor of a job most of us do in getting our names out. I know in MY case I don't advertise much at all. Our growth already nearly exceeds our cash flow. If I grew much faster I'd grow myself right out of business But still. laters,

Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount

2009-02-09 Thread D. Ryan Spott
It's too late! :( I needed information back in October when Mtik/Tranzeo was having such difficulty ryan George Miller wrote: Ryan - Give us a call at 651-319-9106 if you would like any information, or drop me an email directly. Thanks, George President, Freespace Systems

Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 2.4Ghz Noise Problems

2009-02-09 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I agree that sectors are *often* much better than omnis. But be careful http://www.isp-planet.com/fixed_wireless/technology/2008/self+interference.html Also, should have brought this up sooner. Hi gain omni antennas suck swamp water. I only have ONE that's 10dB. NON that are higher.

Re: [WISPA] Thinking out of the box ... Gigabit PTMP?

2009-02-09 Thread Mike Hammett
You'd want 90* or smaller for every bit of gain you can get. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 10:46 AM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Thinking out of the box ... Gigabit PTMP?

2009-02-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Having that many GHz of spectrum would be nice. However, I would expect it to be limited to industrial parks or anywhere where foliage is not present. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Multipoint_Distribution_Service I would imagine that the cost to develop a new line of technology (or the

Re: [WISPA] 3.65ghz sector

2009-02-09 Thread Eric Albert
Hey guys. We just released a new 3.65 product with some cool bundles. Check them out here or check with your distributor. http://www.alvarion.com/3650performancedownload/?ref=WISPA.orgsource_ty pe=Banner Eric Albert | Application Engineer Alvarion Inc. | -Original Message- From:

[WISPA] E-zy.net

2009-02-09 Thread George Rogato
Hello Dimitri Congradts to you and your partners on developing a product that wisps can use to their advantage. I don't think we have seen an introduction of you and your compay on the wispa lists. Why don't you take this time to introduce yourself, and your company and products to the list.

Re: [WISPA] Thinking out of the box ... Gigabit PTMP? Possible solution that could be done today.

2009-02-09 Thread Brian Webster
So I have been thinking about this idea and here's what could be done. Disclaimer: This won't be sub $100 CPE and it won't scale economically for rural areas. This is metro market high customer density stuff. The 24 GHz band has 250 MHz of spectrum available as unlicensed (available today). It is

Re: [WISPA] 3.65ghz sector

2009-02-09 Thread Gino Villarini
Eric, Glad youre here... Can you awnser the following questions related to the Micro unit? Is this 16d? Would the Micro work 4th order or just 2nd order? Whats the channel size? Whats the Rated bandwidth? Total bandwidth per Micro unit? Do we need any additional elements like asn gateway,

Re: [WISPA] Senate to cut Rural Broadband from Stimulus Bill!

2009-02-09 Thread Steve Smith
I agree with John's summary of how it works. If you want to see the current Senate version go to www.senate.gov On the right you will see a link for active legislation. Under the popular titles you can see the current version plus the amendments. The combined House/Senate version is what

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Thinking out of the box ... GigabitPTMP? Possible solution that could be done today.

2009-02-09 Thread Gino Villarini
Brian, do you have any pricing info on this product? I know it wont be $100 cpe but $3000 cpe wont cut it either Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: members-boun...@wispa.org

[WISPA] NWR:cellular phone question

2009-02-09 Thread WWS2
Anyone know if you can take a Sprint cdma phone and have Verizon activate it for use on their cdma system? Walter **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

Re: [WISPA] NWR:cellular phone question

2009-02-09 Thread Jack Unger
Why not ask Verizon? w...@aol.com wrote: Anyone know if you can take a Sprint cdma phone and have Verizon activate it for use on their cdma system? Walter **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Thinking out of the box ... GigabitPTMP? Possible solution that could be done today.

2009-02-09 Thread Brian Webster
Gino, No I do not have any pricing information. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 2:16 PM To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General List; Motorola Canopy List

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Thinking out of the box ... Gigabit PTMP? Possible solution that could be done today.

2009-02-09 Thread Nathan Stooke
Hello, I am all for it. You have to pick the right equipment/spectrum for the right tower/area. I have at least 10 maybe more towers that have about 1000+ potential customers within about 1.5 miles of the tower. It would allow me to use the current 2.4, 5.2-5.8 on other towers for the

Re: [WISPA] E-zy.net

2009-02-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Indeed. I actually received two copies of an OS of his at one of the WISPCONs. I didn't have any boards that took CF cards, so I never got to try it out. I don't remember the name of it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] E-zy.net

2009-02-09 Thread eje
I think your referring to IkarusOS which is a different product then Ez-y net. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:33:17 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] E-zy.net

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] [WISPA Members] Thinking out of the box... Gigabit PTMP? Possible solution that could be done today.

2009-02-09 Thread Brian Webster
Well if this is certified as a PTP system then it would be allowed to run under those power levels. I have seen manufacturer claims for 24 GHz PTP systems of 2-3 miles and up to 5 miles at lower throughput. The rain fade for any given market is going to have a lot more to do with that however.

Re: [WISPA] NWR:cellular phone question

2009-02-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Same band means yes. Just unlock the phone. On 2/9/09, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: Why not ask Verizon? w...@aol.com wrote: Anyone know if you can take a Sprint cdma phone and have Verizon activate it for use on their cdma system? Walter **A Good Credit Score is 700

Re: [WISPA] NWR:cellular phone question

2009-02-09 Thread John Valenti
Like Jack suggests, you really need to check with Verizon. I'm pretty sure there might be potential features that Sprint has turned on for that phone, that would prevent Verizon from working with it. For instance, I had an older Verizon phone that didn't include location features and

[WISPA] OT: Redline AN50e QoS

2009-02-09 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Does anybody know if Redline's AN50e support any low-latency modes, Diffserv or any other QoS prioritization for VOIP applications? The latest firmware I have (1.36.046) does not have these features. -Eric WISPA

Re: [WISPA] 3.65ghz sector

2009-02-09 Thread Eric Albert
Hi Gino, I am glad to be here. Thanks much. When you follow the link I sent earlier (I got it from www.wispa.org) you will get three items in return; a ROI white paper that covers most of your questions from below, a datasheet on the product line and a link to a video that a partner put

[WISPA] Odd email...

2009-02-09 Thread Blair Davis
I just got a blank email with the subject line: You have been unsubscribed from the Announcements mailing list. I didn't request this WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

[WISPA] WISPA membership: was: Re: Announcements List

2009-02-09 Thread Milton Calnek
Hi, I'm wondering what does it take to be a member of WISPA? Rick Harnish wrote: We are reviving the announceme...@wispa.org mailing list. This list has -- Milton Calnek BSc Manager Wireless Application Engineering Support milton.cal...@vecima.com 1-306-955-7075 x4687 1-306-280-9818

Re: [WISPA] Odd email...

2009-02-09 Thread David E. Smith
Blair Davis wrote: You have been unsubscribed from the Announcements mailing list. That's because, while finishing up the other stuff Rick Harnish mentioned, I made a couple typos and accidentally unsubscribed everyone. Twice. I am a human wrecking ball, apparently. Everyone has been

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Approved Ad] WISP-Router February Newsletter

2009-02-09 Thread Blair Davis
This ad was useful! Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Redline AN50e QoS

2009-02-09 Thread Josh Luthman
You can get a better answer from sup...@redlinecommunications.com (it's VERY good and free, don't worry) but to my knowledge it's about as capable (in this respect) as a Dlink switch from Walmart. Packet is a packet to them. I run VoIP over my network over several AN50s. I know when I was stuck

Re: [WISPA] Announcements List

2009-02-09 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I got an email at 5:22 that said I was UNsubscribed from the announcements list.. Rick Harnish wrote: We are reviving the announceme...@wispa.org mailing list. This list has been around for a long time but was never really used. This list will be set up like the advertiseme...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Announcements List

2009-02-09 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
oops, I see why now Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I got an email at 5:22 that said I was UNsubscribed from the announcements list.. Rick Harnish wrote: We are reviving the announceme...@wispa.org mailing list. This list has been around for a long time but was never really used.

Re: [WISPA] Announcements List

2009-02-09 Thread Jack Unger
Please ignore the "unsubscribe" email. Everyone will be properly subscribed to the Announcements list. There's no need to take any action. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I got an email at 5:22 that said I was UNsubscribed from the announcements list.. Rick Harnish wrote: We are

Re: [WISPA] Announcements List

2009-02-09 Thread Blair Davis
Better late than never... Rick Harnish wrote: We are reviving the announceme...@wispa.org mailing list. This list has been around for a long time but was never really used. This list will be set up like the advertiseme...@wispa.org list, in that all unique email addresses on WISPA

Re: [WISPA] WISPA membership: was: Re: Announcements List

2009-02-09 Thread Scott Reed
check out www.wispa.org All the membership types, costs, etc. are there. Milton Calnek wrote: Hi, I'm wondering what does it take to be a member of WISPA? Rick Harnish wrote: We are reviving the announceme...@wispa.org mailing list. This list has

Re: [WISPA] WISPA membership: was: Re: Announcements List

2009-02-09 Thread Rick Harnish
Milton, You can go to http://signup.wispa.org to register. Principal membership fees are $250 annually. Vendor membership is $1000 annually. Hit me offlist and I can answer further questions. Thanks, Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Redline AN50e QoS

2009-02-09 Thread Eric Muehleisen
I assumed so. I know that Motorola/Orthogon has this feature set. It might be useful on those congested backhaul links where low-latency applications are used. -Eric Josh Luthman wrote: You can get a better answer from sup...@redlinecommunications.com (it's VERY good and free, don't worry)

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Redline AN50e QoS

2009-02-09 Thread Josh Luthman
If my backhauls were being congested then I would probably look for upgrade options rather then tweaking the little bit I have left. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it,

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] OT: Redline AN50e QoS

2009-02-09 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Thanks for stating the obvious. Unfortunately, these are not my BH's but a customer who's on a tight budget. Congestion isn't normally a problem, but when/if it is, the feature set in question may become quite useful. Per your suggestion, I've contacted Redline support. Thank you for your

Re: [WISPA] 3.65ghz sector

2009-02-09 Thread Patrick Leary
:) Hope is well Eric... Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Albert Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 2:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65ghz sector

[WISPA] AP using Mikrotik Routerboard

2009-02-09 Thread Phil Curnutt
Does anyone produce a complete Mikrotik Routerboard Access Point- ie.- routerboard, radio cards, pigtails, enclosure etc.? Phil WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] AP using Mikrotik Routerboard

2009-02-09 Thread Blair Davis
I could, if there was demand. I'm sure that they are out there... but, building your own is easy... Phil Curnutt wrote: Does anyone produce a complete Mikrotik Routerboard Access Point- ie.- routerboard, radio cards, pigtails, enclosure etc.? Phil

Re: [WISPA] AP using Mikrotik Routerboard

2009-02-09 Thread David E. Smith
Does anyone produce a complete Mikrotik Routerboard Access Point- ie.- routerboard, radio cards, pigtails, enclosure etc.? Of late, I've been using Jeffco SoHo (www.jeffcosoho.com/catalog) partly because they're only a hundred miles away, and even ground shipping arrives the next day. They also

Re: [WISPA] AP using Mikrotik Routerboard

2009-02-09 Thread Josh Luthman
You might spend a good 50 dollars in parts that you can reuse between enclosures for every few or you can pay a vendor to do it (marked up of course). If you'd like my full list of parts I buy/use for every AP let me know. On 2/9/09, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: I could, if there was

Re: [WISPA] AP using Mikrotik Routerboard

2009-02-09 Thread Dennis Burgess
Yes we do this. . Just shoot us a call or order on-line. Something to keep in mind, we test, upgrade, and verify operations before they leave. Nothing sux worse then putting in a link or AP, and finding out a 5 buck part does not work and then have to do another tower climb! Why we test

Re: [WISPA] AP using Mikrotik Routerboard

2009-02-09 Thread Josh Luthman
There you go, Dennis makes life easier for the WISP admins :) On 2/9/09, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: Yes we do this. . Just shoot us a call or order on-line. Something to keep in mind, we test, upgrade, and verify operations before they leave. Nothing sux worse then

Re: [WISPA] AP using Mikrotik Routerboard

2009-02-09 Thread eje
We might not have it as a single order sku but if you order all items we will assemble it for you free of charge. We have a few complete sku's premade in our system as well. As you might be aware as well we have certified techs plus of course myself whom is a certified trainer. /Eje

Re: [WISPA] AP using Mikrotik Routerboard

2009-02-09 Thread eje
If you purchase all items for a complete unit we will assemble it free of charge. This is a service we been doing ever since we started selling MikroTik 5 years ago. We will do that even for StarOS or IkarusOS base solution as long as all parts and licenses to make a complete system is

Re: [WISPA] AP using Mikrotik Routerboard

2009-02-09 Thread Scott Reed
Streakwave and Quicklink wireless both do. I have good results with both of them as well as Wisp-Router. Phil Curnutt wrote: Does anyone produce a complete Mikrotik Routerboard Access Point- ie.- routerboard, radio cards, pigtails, enclosure etc.? Phil

Re: [WISPA] AP using Mikrotik Routerboard

2009-02-09 Thread Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs
Man, I have seen some small WISPs, doing their second tower, buy all of the stuff, and not know they screwed up the UFL or something stupid like that. Then they can't afford to replace the failed 5 bucks, due to the cost of the tower climb.! -- * Dennis Burgess,

Re: [WISPA] AP using Mikrotik Routerboard

2009-02-09 Thread Phil Curnutt
Thanks guys. I'll be making some calls tomorrow. Phil On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: Man, I have seen some small WISPs, doing their second tower, buy all of the stuff, and not know they screwed up the UFL or something stupid like

Re: [WISPA] AP using Mikrotik Routerboard

2009-02-09 Thread Mike Hammett
That's why you test on the ground before you go up... who knows what happened in UPS. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs dmburg...@linktechs.net Sent: Monday, February

Re: [WISPA] AP using Mikrotik Routerboard

2009-02-09 Thread Josh Luthman
My experiences say don't use Streakwave On 2/9/09, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: Streakwave and Quicklink wireless both do. I have good results with both of them as well as Wisp-Router. Phil Curnutt wrote: Does anyone produce a complete Mikrotik Routerboard Access Point-

Re: [WISPA] AP using Mikrotik Routerboard

2009-02-09 Thread Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs
Typically its a build issue. Screwed on things too tight, etc. Just stupid things. Seen people not secure the radio cards before taking them up the tower etc. We have been building these things for over 4 years, and we have 532s that have been up and running for 3! wow, just thought

Re: [WISPA] AP using Mikrotik Routerboard

2009-02-09 Thread Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs
Not wishing to say anyone does a better job or worse. One of the biggest mistakes I have seen is the plastic standoffs. Not only do they fail, but they are not grounding the board typically! I see lots of people using the little 1/2 moon power injectors. They are super cheap, and by the