Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread Cameron Kilton
I will second this, I would love to hear it! -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link Isn't that

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread Jeff Ehman
I'll get this posted later today. Unbelievably busy this morning. Give me some time. -Jeff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Kilton Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread 3-dB Networks
Brad, Go back through the list achieves... I think I have made my stance on why Dragonwave is better in my opinion than Trango. I've installed nine Trango Giga links... so my opinion is based on my own personal experience... not just the Dragonwave marketing material. I didn't repost these

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread 3-dB Networks
I have to run out into the field to work on a Bridgewave link (people pay good money for that :-). I'll answer this tonight. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle

2009-02-11 Thread Mike Hammett
You can still drive a hybrid... http://www.internationaltrucks.com/portal/site/ITrucks/menuitem.a1d4a3932b46e05831f8e968121010a0/?vgnextoid=945d07aafbfe6110VgnVCM1085d0eb0aRCRD UPS also has some of their trucks powered by International hybrid technology. I think the one our local center

Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle

2009-02-11 Thread Mike Hammett
I thought it should go faster too. ;-) I don't know what year Travis's truck is, but a variant of one of these ought to help that 80 mph limitation. http://bankspower.com/products/show/43/3 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread Brad Belton
Hmmm...sure sounds like you have an inordinate amount of service work on your linksgrin I'm working on a response to your other post with a line item side by side comparison between Dragonwave and Trango, but it will probably be tomorrow before it's posted. Best, Brad -Original

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread can...@believewireless.net
We are in Baltimore and now have Sprint WiMax to compete against in the residential market. Hearing a lot of people say how great it was, I decided to check it out. What I found was that they have prioritized nearly every major speed test site. Running tests to those sites show 4-6+ Mbps down and

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread Gino Villarini
Hmm nice idea ... :-) Anyone gave a list of the most popular sites? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle

2009-02-11 Thread Kevin Neal
Any faster than 80 mph and you get stopped, then you just lost way more time than you would have gained from speeding. Kevin Safelink Internet -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 11,

Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle

2009-02-11 Thread Josh Luthman
I pass cops with laser (not radar) doing 80 mph when the speed limit is 65 mph. Many Interstates in other states are 75 mph. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. ---

Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle

2009-02-11 Thread Mike Hammett
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limits_in_the_United_States Texas goes as high as 80 mph. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Wednesday, February

Re: [WISPA] test

2009-02-11 Thread Scottie Arnett
I have noticed that some of my replies go directly to the sender instead of the list. I have caught it doing it when I click reply and in the To: box going to the original sender instead of wirel...@wispa.org. Not sure if it is something on my end or the list. Scottie -- Original

[WISPA] Need Help with MUD

2009-02-11 Thread bcochran
Need Help Has anyone installed wireless in rental complex? Problem is the owner has bulk cable coming into the complex, and wonders if cable company would cut his service if we connect to his router and distribute internet service to his renters. He is having problems with cable company

[WISPA] Service in Mt. Carmel IL

2009-02-11 Thread Martha Huizenga
Hi all, I got a service request from someone in Mt. Carmel IL. They said their friend has us and told them to go to accessusa.net - which is a domain I own, but it goes to my web site for DC Access. Anyone serve this area? If so, contact me offlist and I'll give you her contact info. Thanks

[WISPA] Angry IP Scanner

2009-02-11 Thread Steve Barnes
We have used angry IPSCANNER for years around the office for years to do odds and ends IP scans. Norton Anti-everything hates it and the new 2009 version wont let me exclude it. Anybody have a program like it (windows) that I might Try that you like. Steve Barnes Executive Manager PCS-WIN

Re: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner

2009-02-11 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Have you used the one in the Mtiks? ryan Steve Barnes wrote: We have used angry IPSCANNER for years around the office for years to do odds and ends IP scans. Norton Anti-everything hates it and the new 2009 version wont let me exclude it. Anybody have a program like it (windows) that I

Re: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner

2009-02-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Win32... NetScan l...@lan Mikrotik's ip-scan RULES Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:52 PM, D. Ryan Spott

Re: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner

2009-02-11 Thread jree...@18-30chat.net
I would upgrade your AV before tossing AngryIP out. =-) Give the windows port of nmap a go. Steve Barnes wrote: We have used angry IPSCANNER for years around the office for years to do odds and ends IP scans. Norton Anti-everything hates it and the new 2009 version wont let me exclude it.

Re: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner

2009-02-11 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Ohh! nmap is by FAR the best! ryan jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: I would upgrade your AV before tossing AngryIP out. =-) Give the windows port of nmap a go. Steve Barnes wrote: We have used angry IPSCANNER for years around the office for years to do odds and ends IP scans. Norton

Re: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner

2009-02-11 Thread Mike Hammett
A better recommendation would be to switch from Norton. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:52 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner

2009-02-11 Thread Steve Barnes
Actually I really like the 2009 Norton Products. It eats 10% of the memory Norton 2008 did and kicks butt on finding stuff. I've been giving AVG away and they called me and said that's a NO-NO besides that makes no revenue stream. I sold 20 copies last week and have had 2 of them call and

Re: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner

2009-02-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Ryan, We can be nmap buddies! Surprised someone else uses that for whitehat purposes =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 11, 2009

Re: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner

2009-02-11 Thread Mike Hammett
I like to use Avast. It has a nice boot time scanner that will run before Windows loads anything. It runs when scandisk would otherwise run. I don't think it's missed anything yet. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner

2009-02-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Run Linux, no anti virus software... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Mike Hammett

Re: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner

2009-02-11 Thread Mike Hammett
I'll refrain from entering Linux vs. Windows. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 1:19 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner

2009-02-11 Thread Scott Reed
l...@lan http://www.lookatlan.com/ D. Ryan Spott wrote: Have you used the one in the Mtiks? ryan Steve Barnes wrote: We have used angry IPSCANNER for years around the office for years to do odds and ends IP scans. Norton Anti-everything hates it and the new 2009 version wont let me

Re: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner

2009-02-11 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Check your firewall logs... we can be +best+ buddies... (j/k) As for antivirus, just use http://www.clamwin.com/ or http://www.clamav.net/ Pretty slick, in windows, it stays put in a small icon by the clock instead of the standard of AV now-a-days where they all scream: LOOK AT ME!!! LOOK AT

Re: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner

2009-02-11 Thread Steve Barnes
I would love to use Linux but being a PC retailer as well I don't want to support multiple OS's. Besides my bosses pet 12 year old accounting program requires windows and barely runs in it. Steve Barnes Executive Manager PCS-WIN RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message-

Re: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner

2009-02-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Virtualization. Not only does it make things a lot easier to backup and move. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:27 PM,

Re: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner

2009-02-11 Thread os10rules
What about the Mac OS? I has Linuxy goodness with lots of apps. Greg On Feb 11, 2009, at 3:01 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Virtualization. Not only does it make things a lot easier to backup and move. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy,

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread John Seaman
Just to clear up a few points... Daniel's claim of number of Trango's units shipped is WAY off. He has no way of knowing what we have shipped. Trango is a private company and as such we dont divulge specifics, but I can tell you that the actual shipments are FAR greater and a very significant

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread Josh Luthman
So when you build a Trango backhaul network you hope they don't ruin you like they did for us trying to do use 700 dollar CPEs. I have not used Trango backhaul products due to the horrible experience, cost and support for the Acess 5800 and 5830 products. On 2/11/09, John Seaman

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread John Seaman
And people wonder why I dont post to the list often. There are some old horror stories out there but far more success stories of succesful WISPs using Trango equipment. Josh, I am sorry to hear you had a bad experience in the past. By the way we are currently having a promotion on the 5830s..

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread Randy Cosby
Can I ask an honest question about the PTP licensed gear? Tell us about the tech support department. Is it just Timo (sp?)? How many other employees are there for support? Randy John Seaman wrote: And people wonder why I dont post to the list often. There are some old horror stories

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread Travis Johnson
HUH? Someone at Trango held a gun to your head and made you purchase their gear? I don't get this message at all? Travis Microserv Josh Luthman wrote: So when you build a Trango backhaul network you hope they don't ruin you like they did for us trying to do use 700 dollar CPEs. I have

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread John Seaman
Hi Randy, There are three people in our support group..plus me and Ray. We're a small sales and upport team.. but that's how a company stays profitable in tough economic times. We'll add support resources as needed and as the installed base grows. John -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread Patrick Leary
From my viewpoint, I can say that I know several WISPs of late that might not have touched Trango PMP products (mostly due to perceptions of waffling company policies that forced price fluctuations and random changes), but love the Trango PTP products. I think it is a fair assessment that Trango's

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread Josh Luthman
I didn't purchase Trango to begin with, the company was acquired =) I just find it hard to make any money off of a customer paying $50/mo when I have to spend $700 on a CPE. I was told (this is word of mouth, no proof) that the CPEs were reasonably priced in the past and for whatever reason were

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread Josh Luthman
That was exactly my point, Patrick. With the PMP products they flip flopped. They started making PTP products - what's to say they won't do the same thing to those who have these deployed? Fool me one shame on you, fool me twice... Also, how is the support with the PTP products? I have been

Re: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner

2009-02-11 Thread David E. Smith
D. Ryan Spott wrote: As for antivirus, just use http://www.clamwin.com/ or http://www.clamav.net/ ClamAV was designed as a mail-scanning package, and it shows. There's no real-time scan component for Windows, and historically it's done a poor job of detecting things that aren't normally

Re: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner

2009-02-11 Thread Josh Luthman
I used to use AVG - it was a simple install and forget. 6 months ago they started nagging and making it difficult for those lesser knowledged users. Switched to Avast for now. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't

Re: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner

2009-02-11 Thread D. Ryan Spott
ClamAV seems to have on demand scanning. It grabs garbage from my end users hrm... ryan Josh Luthman wrote: I used to use AVG - it was a simple install and forget. 6 months ago they started nagging and making it difficult for those lesser knowledged users. Switched to Avast for now.

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
The only reason we don't attach it here in the factory is to enable the user the option to use a waveguide adapter (instead of the transition) in the event they want to connect the ODU to piece of flex waveguide so that it can be used with any dish with a waveguide flange. Good feature for

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread John Seaman
Thanks Tom, we're not convinced about 24 GHz... the power limits are very low. We are looking at it but we're trying to size up the 24 GHz market before we make the commitment to pursue this frequency. I do know that in Canada there is good demnand for 24 GHz (since licensing fees are extremely

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
Josh, No one will disagree that the Flip-Flopping price structures with the Trango PTMP lines was very annoying. And to be honest, the industry and I know it cost Trango customers. But there is a flip side, to identify value. For example, 99.9% of my original installed Trango gear (starting in

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread Matt Liotta
Trango has a way of destroying their reputation even when their product is not at fault. We've had them offer us volume discounts only later to see the same price offered without a volume requirement as part of a promotion. I can't get a modern firmware for our older 5010s that operate in

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread John Seaman
Matt, there is no DFS detector in the Atlas5010. It was not a firmware issue, but rather a hardware limitation. That is why we released the 5055, aka the TrangoLINK-45 which is essentially the same product as the Atlas but has DFS support for the UNII band. If you bought the 5010s before the

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread Josh Luthman
I will say this, I found this interesting just this morning... I have many AN50 links. They work very very well. Love this product very much myself. The AN80 is the replacement product. A WISP bought 24 radios (12 links) of AN80s expecting them to be equally as good if not better. The price

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread Matt Liotta
On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:02 PM, John Seaman wrote: Matt, there is no DFS detector in the Atlas5010. It was not a firmware issue, but rather a hardware limitation. That is why we released the 5055, aka the TrangoLINK-45 which is essentially the same product as the Atlas but has DFS support

Re: [WISPA] Service in Mt. Carmel IL

2009-02-11 Thread John Scrivner
The local provider is likely Access Us http://www.accessus.net. I serve about 60 miles west of there. Scriv On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.netwrote: Hi all, I got a service request from someone in Mt. Carmel IL. They said their friend has us and told them

Re: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner

2009-02-11 Thread Blair Davis
dump norton. we did years ago. Steve Barnes wrote: We have used angry IPSCANNER for years around the office for years to do odds and ends IP scans. Norton Anti-everything hates it and the new 2009 version wont let me exclude it. Anybody have a program like it (windows) that I might Try

Re: [WISPA] Angry IP Scanner

2009-02-11 Thread Blair Davis
we don't give AVG away, we just provide a link to it. Steve Barnes wrote: Actually I really like the 2009 Norton Products. It eats 10% of the memory Norton 2008 did and kicks butt on finding stuff. I've been giving AVG away and they called me and said that's a NO-NO besides that makes no

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
Well, I'll add a couple comments, before the group chimes in I agree, that in MORE cases, people will chose 23Ghz licensed over 24Ghz. But that does not negate the 24Ghz model potential. For 24Ghz, 2ft Dish configurations are going to be MUCH more effective. And as well, Lower

Re: [WISPA] Service in Mt. Carmel IL

2009-02-11 Thread Jim Patient
Yep they have a POP there. Rob Summers takes care of that area. rob.summ...@accessus.net Jim John Scrivner wrote: The local provider is likely Access Us http://www.accessus.net. I serve about 60 miles west of there. Scriv On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Martha Huizenga

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread can...@believewireless.net
I second what Tom says. We need another affordable 24GHz solution. On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote: Well, I'll add a couple comments, before the group chimes in I agree, that in MORE cases, people will chose 23Ghz licensed over 24Ghz. But that

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread cam
I'll go with this, Tom has made very valid points. -Cameron I second what Tom says. We need another affordable 24GHz solution. On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote: Well, I'll add a couple comments, before the group chimes in I agree, that in

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread 3-dB Networks
Brad, I'm not a WISP'er anymore... sales manager over here at 3-dB. I still get out though and install gear for people... :-) I am out of the office more though than I care to be... too many jobs stacking up! Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message-

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread 3-dB Networks
Comments inline Before anyone reads further... I have the upmost respect for John... and I honestly believe Trango has done many things right over the years. I'll also be the first one to say that the Trango PTP products will work... but to me the price difference isn't enough to switch to

Re: [WISPA] Need 18ghz link

2009-02-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Tom, you need a hobby. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:47 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] Service vehicle

2009-02-11 Thread John Thomas
Sooner or later, someone will do a 1/2 ton diesel electric hybrid truck , and it should be able to do at least 40 mpg if they do it right. It looks like these guys might be the ones to do it. http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/mahindra-appalachian-diesel-pickup-arrives-in-us-next-year-dies/