Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!

2009-10-24 Thread Mike
Very fine work Jack. I spent some time early this morning reading the comments and commend you for a good job. I am curious, how you came up with the 300 MHz number: 300 MHz of spectrum will be needed for fixed wireless broadband to replace the noisy and crowded license-free

[WISPA] WTB: Trango Atlas Units

2009-10-24 Thread Gino Villarini
We are looking to buy Trango Atlas Units, offlist thanks Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] juniper

2009-10-24 Thread jp
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 03:12:35PM -0500, Butch Evans wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 15:29 -0400, jp wrote: Anyone use their routers? I'm wondering if they overstate their performance greatly or if they are conservative in their promises. I'm considering using one to replace an aging

Re: [WISPA] juniper

2009-10-24 Thread Rubens Kuhl
SRX series is the likely the way forward on Juniper CPU-based routers, capable of running BGP, MPLS etc. If you don't need the security stuff on SRX, just don't use it or don't pay for the extra features. Rubens On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:29 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: Anyone use

Re: [WISPA] How Priviliged are Emails?

2009-10-24 Thread Robert West
Personally I put zero value in the this information is confidential statements. It's a joke. Just because someone puts that tag at the bottom of the email doesn't mean that I have to agree to it. I signed no paper saying I wouldn't share any of the information. It's no more than someone asking

Re: [WISPA] How Priviliged are Emails?

2009-10-24 Thread St. Louis Broadband
Thanks guys for your input. I was pretty sure I could get away with it, but checking. It is a very interesting conversation with the state CIO. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, October 24,

Re: [WISPA] How Priviliged are Emails?

2009-10-24 Thread Scott Reed
Actually, if you get right down to it, I think you were within their parameters. It says the information is for the addressee's use, that would be you. You used it to determine if you were capable of meeting the contract obligations. It should say, is only for the use of the sender. Then

Re: [WISPA] How Priviliged are Emails?

2009-10-24 Thread Robert West
I agreed to nothing so just because someone tells me I can't tell someone else, too bad for them. They can't just dictate something to me with no 2 way agreement. It's like if I come up to you on the street and tell you to do something. Do you have to do it just because I said so or do we have

Re: [WISPA] How Priviliged are Emails?

2009-10-24 Thread Scott Reed
I wasn't arguing that at all, in fact I am in agreement. My point is, if you read the notice, it gives you permission to do what you want with it. To me, intended solely for the use of the addressee means you, the addressee, can do what you want because it is for you. Robert West wrote: I

Re: [WISPA] How Priviliged are Emails?

2009-10-24 Thread Robert West
I know, I know. Sorry, I was just arguing in general. It's that kind of day. Is it possible to kill customers and still have them pay for the service? Just wondering.. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott

Re: [WISPA] How Priviliged are Emails?

2009-10-24 Thread Bret Clark
Scott Reed wrote: I wasn't arguing that at all, in fact I am in agreement. My point is, if you read the notice, it gives you permission to do what you want with it. To me, LOL...true, good point! It's a lot like NDA's, you can't distribute the info they give you, but there is nothing

Re: [WISPA] Keyon Communications

2009-10-24 Thread Marco Coelho
Be sure to talk to some of the other companies owners that they have bought out. Cash up front is what works. I've seen a lot of companies promise the moon and deliver squat. WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] WISPA's Spectrum for Broadband FCC Filing

2009-10-24 Thread Steve Barnes
Jack thank you for the post. Very nice document. Can you update us on the next steps, what will happen with document. From what I understand the FCC does not have to do anything, right? Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From:

[WISPA] BIP/BTOP = Big Government in Missouri

2009-10-24 Thread St. Louis Broadband
Folks in this state have been getting a bit upset, and I don't blame them. Telecommunication/Cable associations have been complaining and we don't know if anyone is listening. The state has proposed a project that repeats not just one, but a multitude of fiber carriers. They have

Re: [WISPA] How Priviliged are Emails?

2009-10-24 Thread RickG
Wow! I've been on this list since May 2004. Time sure flies! Thats back when Marlon really talked a lot - lol! -RickG On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: If it's going on a public list then it's public information.  How are you going to protect

Re: [WISPA] WISPA's Spectrum for Broadband FCC Filing

2009-10-24 Thread Jack Unger
Steve, Together with the other Comments filed in the proceeding, including Reply Comments due November 13, the Comments will be considered by the FCC as it develops its National Broadband Plan. jack Steve Barnes wrote: Jack thank you for the post. Very nice document. Can you update us

Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced

2009-10-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
Although I think that would be a good idea, before such is done, make sure the vendor authorizes it to occur. Depending on the outcome of the meeting, they may or may not want it as public record. And as teh vendor member they should ahve the right to determine if their webinar can go on the

Re: [WISPA] WISPA's Spectrum for Broadband FCC Filing

2009-10-24 Thread Steve Barnes
So does supporting comments help or make any difference? If it does should we send out directions and a call for comments to the FCC. Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger

Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced

2009-10-24 Thread Butch Evans
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 16:26 -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote: If a vendor knows the webinar is public archived, they may hold back important information to protect their strategic interests. Because vendors are all evil? Why would you think this is the case? NOBODY (vendor or otherwise) would

Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced

2009-10-24 Thread Dennis Burgess
Yes, it would have to be a member only video at that :) --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office:

Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced

2009-10-24 Thread Mike Hammett
I know a lot of people feel that way, but it's bull. If it's that important, don't divulge it to anyone in the first place, which defeats the purpose of the webinar or any presentation to your clients of any kind. Once it's released, your technology is just as good as someone else's anyway.

Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced

2009-10-24 Thread Scott Carullo
I hate to insert myself into a thread I don't really care about nor have been paying attention to, but I feel compelled to reply to this due to one sentence you stated... == Trust me, there is very little if anything any vendor or WISP does that's secret or special. == If you don't

Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced

2009-10-24 Thread lakeland
I think if the vendor agrees to speak before WISPA then the recording should really be implied. WISPA has all the right in the world to archieve their media and if they are hosting the webinar for the benefit of their members. Now if WISPA wanted to sell the webinar to someone outside the

Re: [WISPA] How Priviliged are Emails?

2009-10-24 Thread Richey
What's the big deal? Just follow the instructions in the signature. Richey This email and any attachments (Message) may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the addressee, or if this Message has been addressed to you in error, you are not authorized to

Re: [WISPA] How Priviliged are Emails?

2009-10-24 Thread jason bailey
That's better,no politics! Just show me the money Sent From My I1000 --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Richey myli...@battleop.com wrote: From: Richey myli...@battleop.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] How Priviliged are Emails? To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 10:04 PM

Re: [WISPA] How Priviliged are Emails?

2009-10-24 Thread Scottie Arnett
LOL, and that is at the BOTTOM of the message. Most people follow the traditional American way of readingFrom the top down. Makes NO sense to me.(hey, and no offense to the bottom posters)... I have learned to examine the entire post, although I misconstrue it too much(Jack)? Scottie

Re: [WISPA] How Priviliged are Emails?

2009-10-24 Thread jason bailey
yep,gotta read it all! fune Sent From My I1000 --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] How Priviliged are Emails? To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 11:35 PM

Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced

2009-10-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
Butch, How in the world could you distort my comment to mean vendors are evil? I made a comment to PROTECT Vendors' interests. It is common practice for radio manufacturers to keep the details of their products confidential from other competitors in the market space. They put lots of time and

Re: [WISPA] WISPA Webinar Announced

2009-10-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
I think if the vendor agrees to speak before WISPA then the recording should really be implied. There is absolutely nothing implied. It takes like 2 seconds to ASK the vendor the question, and there is absolutely no reason why it shouldn't or couldn't be asked. So why not just Ask the