Very fine work Jack. I spent some time early this morning reading
the comments and commend you for a good job. I am curious, how you
came up with the 300 MHz number:
"300 MHz of spectrum will be needed for fixed wireless
broadband to replace the noisy and crowded license-free spectrum and
to meet consumer demands for emerging bandwidth-intensive applications."
If WISPA had more members it would add clout to the sense of urgency
you seemed to develop in these comments. Besides a good analysis of
the changes needed at 3600 and the TV white space, these comments
help posit WISPA as a voice of the industry.
Thanks again and best regards,
Mike
At 04:41 PM 10/23/2009, you wrote:
>Hi Mike,
>
>We just finished our work on WISPA's "Spectrum for Broadband" filing
>and it goes to the FCC today.
>
><The following is a Commercial Message> Those WISPs who enjoy using
>this list but who are not WISPA members should really consider
>joining WISPA. WISPA members just paid $5000 in legal fees to
>prepare and file Comments with the FCC to provide more broadband
>spectrum for you to use. Without spectrum, there would be NO WISPs.
>Non-members of WISPA should realize that nothing of value (except
>maybe love) is ever given away for free. If you are a WISP that's
>reading this, please consider joining WISPA for the low rate of only
>$250 per year (with payment plans available). WISPA supports you.
>It's time for you to step up and show your support for your industry
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>
>So Mike - Everyone would agree with your analysis that UHF antennas
>are smaller than VHF antennas. Here is the additional information
>that should help put the TV White Space antenna-size discussion into context.
>
>The FCC's TV White Space rules (issued last November) were the
>result of a VERY long and contentious process. The TV broadcasters
>did not want to see the White Spaces used by anyone else. They
>claimed that television broadcasting would be interfered with. In
>addition, there are already half a million ILLEGAL unlicensed
>wireless microphones in use in the U.S. Unfortunately they are often
>used by churches, musicians and other groups that have a lot of
>political "clout". The result of the multi-year FCC process to to
>decide if the TV White Spaces would be released for non-licensed use
>of auctioned off to cell phone companies was the FCC decision to
>allow unlicensed use BUT to create a set of rules that "protected"
>both the incumbent television broadcasters (who legitimately deserve
>protection) AND the illegal unlicensed microphone users (who don't
>deserve protection). The FCC rules are 90% OK regarding WISP
>license-free TVWS use but the last 10% can cause so much trouble
>that WISP use of TVWS spectrum may turn out to be impractical.
>
>Here's the heart of the problem and the reason why a large
>television broadcast type antenna may be needed.
>
>1. TV White Space will work best the more rural your area. If you
>are in or near an urban area, there will be few or NO channels
>available. The channels used by commercial TV broadcasters PLUS one
>channel above and one channel below will be off-limits to eliminate
>adjacent-channel interference.
>
>2. If you are in a more-rural area, there WILL be channels available
>but the available channels will need to be shared. You can use one,
>your neighbor network can use the same one, etc.
>
>3. You will not be able to pick just any channel. You must pick only
>an available channel (if there is one) to avoid interfering with the
>TV broadcasters. If only a VHF channel is available, then you will
>have to use a VHF-sized antenna. If a UHF channel is available, you
>can pick that and use a smaller UHF antenna. The NLOS
>characteristics will be worse and the free-space path loss will be
>higher but you can pick UHF to keep antenna size down if you want
>(and if available).
>
>4. Now for the bad news. Under current FCC rules, if a wireless mike
>pops up near any of your base stations or customer locations, you
>have to switch channels so you don't interfer with them. To
>effectively switch channels, you need a multiband antenna which is
>TV-antenna sized. If there are no other available channels then you
>will need to go off the air.
>
>5. You can see how variable and unreliable the channel-switching
>situation is. It's completely un-workable. Not only will you need to
>use large antennas to get broadband VHF-UHF capabilities but the
>propagation characteristics will be different too so what works on
>one channel might not work on another channel. This example really
>shows how "the devil is in the details". Sure the FCC allows us to
>use the TV White Spaces but with rules that practically make TVWS
>very impractical or un-useable. The FCC just assumed that 1)
>channels would be available and 2) channel-switching would work.
>These were bad assumptions for them to make.
>
>6. WISPA has been petitioning the FCC for the last 9 months to get
>them to adjust their rules to correct the microphone-sensing problem
>and a few other problems like antenna height restrictions. WISPA's
>FCC filing today again addressed these needed TVWS rules changes. We
>will keep hammering away at the FCC until they adjust their rules
>and make TVWS useable.
>
>This is kind of a long answer to the antenna-size question but
>hopefully it has helped illustrate the situation and what WISPA is
>doing (for both Members and non-members) to make the otherwise
>very-valuable TVWS spectrum both available and useable.
>
>Respectfully,
>
>Jack Unger
>Chair - WISPA FCC Committee
>
>
>
>
>Mike wrote:
>>
>>Thanks Jack. I am looking forward to your insight.
>>
>>Mike Hammett was already so kind by referring to a wiki in a previous
>>post.
>><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spaces_(radio)>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spaces_(radio)
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>At 02:31 PM 10/23/2009, you wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Mike,
>>>
>>>I'm just finishing up work on WISPA's "Spectrum for Broadband" FCC
>>>filing which is due today but hang with me for another hour or so
>>>and I'll give you some background information about the FCC's TV
>>>White Space rules as they currently stand. Once you have the context
>>>(full view of the rules) I think you'll have a better view of why
>>>larger (TV-type) antennas may be required for most future TV White
>>>Space operators. No new understanding of physics is needed; just an
>>>understanding of the current FCC rules, an understanding of what
>>>channels may be available in what areas, and an understanding of why
>>>you probably won't be able to simply pick a UHF channel and simply
>>>"dwell" on it.
>>>
>>>jack
>>>
>>>
>>>Mike wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Jack:
>>>>
>>>>If your goal is to use VHF frequencies at 54 MHz then YES you will
>>>>need a large radiator! If your goal is to use UHF frequencies at
>>>>300, or 500 MHz, then NO, you won't need a 'TV sized" antenna. If
>>>>*MANY* 6 MHz wide allocations are made, then one would be stupid to
>>>>use a "do all" antenna for all frequencies. Maybe I am missing
>>>>something here. Perhaps a newly revised rules of physics?
>>>>
>>>>Mike Hammett, I am not just trying to be contrary but am willing to
>>>>learn. UHF antennas are *MUCH* smaller than VHF antennas.
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>At 01:50 PM 10/23/2009, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike,
>>>>>
>>>>>You are correct. I'm deep into a final review of WISPA's Spectrum
>>>>>for Broadband FCC filing right this minute (well, actually all
>>>>>morning) but I plan to respond to Mike's points with more
>>>>>information that he may not have about the TV White Spaces FCC
>>>>>rules. I think once he has that additional information, he will
>>>>>understand why your (and my) conclusion about needing a "TV-sized"
>>>>>antenna is correct.
>>>>>
>>>>>jack
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The 30 meter antenna was misconstrued from the antenna height
>>>>>>requirements.
>>>>>>It's required to be 10 meters or above for CPE use and no higher than 30
>>>>>>meters for AP use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why would a TV antenna or a TVWS antenna on the same frequency be any
>>>>>>different in size? Maybe some missing elements if your antenna
>>>>>>only covers
>>>>>>part of the band, but a full band antenna should be roughly the
>>>>>>same size as
>>>>>>current TV antenna. We have the use of 54 - 698 MHz (with the
>>>>>>current rule
>>>>>>set, minus a few reserved channels).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Unless I'm missing something, which I doubt because Jack and I discussed
>>>>>>this at FISPA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----
>>>>>>Mike Hammett
>>>>>>Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>><http://www.ics-il.com>http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>From: "Mike" <mailto:[email protected]><[email protected]>
>>>>>>Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:10 PM
>>>>>>To: "WISPA General List" <mailto:[email protected]><[email protected]>
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well the comments I've heard ARE ludicrous. Antennas as big as a TV
>>>>>>>antenna, 30 meter antennas, and others.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Free space path loss is greater at 5.8 GHz than at 2.4
>>>>>>>GHz. Substantially. Free space path loss at 700 MHz, or 600 or 500
>>>>>>>is also SUBSTANTIALLY lesser than at 2.4 GHz.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Free space path loss is proportional to the square of the distance
>>>>>>>between the transmitter and receiver, and also proportional to the
>>>>>>>square of the FREQUENCY of the radio signal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The FREQUENCY effect of the free space path loss is directly coupled
>>>>>>>to the aperture of the antenna, which describes how sensitive an
>>>>>>>antenna is to an incoming electromagnetic wave for which it is
>>>>>>>resonant. Lower frequency equates to a larger aperture, and a larger
>>>>>>>capture area for similar antennas, as compared to a much
>>>>>>>higher frequency.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If it is indeed a narrow band, then of course the chances of self
>>>>>>>interference are there. The propagation characteristics of UHF for
>>>>>>>fixed wireless are what cause me to want to "play" in this band
>>>>>>>instead of some new allocation in the microwave regions. Think
>>>>>>>through the trees, over the horizon, near line of site possibilities.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You also can't just reinvent the Yagi-Yuda or log periodic antenna
>>>>>>>either. The sizes I stated for those frequencies ARE the full size
>>>>>>>of an antenna, not some miniaturized or "rabbit ear" antenna.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Actually, I don't even think I'm arguing anything, just trying to
>>>>>>>dispel a belief that white space antennas are these huge
>>>>>>>monstrosities; they aren't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>For what it's worth, my personal record for distance on UHF is around
>>>>>>>44,000 miles. REALLY!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At 12:20 PM 10/23/2009,Cameron wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It is not "ludacrous". Sure you can receive with a small yagi or panel
>>>>>>>>or heck, even a set of rabbit ears. It's the uplink that will be the
>>>>>>>>major issue. If you are using small cells for coverage you can probably
>>>>>>>>get away with "smaller" antennas on the towers, but this will
>>>>>>>>limit your
>>>>>>>>uplink capability if you are wanting a desktop type CPE or even a small
>>>>>>>>roof mount antenna. Small cell coverage like with uW freqs will have to
>>>>>>>>be carefully planned due to the propagation characteristics and the
>>>>>>>>potential for self interfernece on such a narrow band. It's not
>>>>>>>>impossible, just more complicated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cameron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>At 704 MHz, a quarter wave is about 4 inches long. The driven
>>>>>>>>>element of a Yagi would be about 8 inches long. They would be way
>>>>>>>>>shorter than 30 meters, or what do you mean? Think about the 900 MHz
>>>>>>>>>antennas you see but just a little bigger for the upper UHF white
>>>>>>>>>space.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Ch 52 is 698 MHz. Ch 69 is 800 MHz. Some of the talk I've seen
>>>>>>>>>about enormous antennas in the "white space" is ludicrous.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Give me ANY part of it and the radios to use it and I
>>>>>>>>>will. Propagation would be superior to anything we're using now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>At 07:46 PM 10/22/2009, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>What equipment are they using? Did they have to do the 30 meter
>>>>>>>>>>antennas?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Scottie
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>From: "Gino Villarini" <mailto:[email protected]><[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>Reply-To: WISPA General List
>>>>>>>>>><mailto:[email protected]><[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:05:22 -0400
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>IIRC, 6 mhz channels were proponed on the FCC RO, you could bond
>>>>>>>>>>>them...
>>>>>>>>>>>so with current OFDM technologies you can get 10 - 12 Mbps
>>>>>>>>>>>on a 6 mhz
>>>>>>>>>>>channel.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Not bad for a NLOS, self install and mobile probability
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Gino A. Villarini
>>>>>>>>>>><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>>>>>>>>>787.273.4143
>>>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>From:
>>>>>>>>>>><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>[<mailto:[email protected]>mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>>>>On
>>>>>>>>>>>Behalf Of Scott Carullo
>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>To: WISPA General List
>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>My question is how fast can their internet go using tv whitespace?
>>>>>>>>>>>Sprint
>>>>>>>>>>>used to serve this area with an unutilized tv channel and it was
>>>>>>>>>>>SLOW.
>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>guess if you had nothing else but if it can't go one MB
>>>>>>>>>>>its not on my
>>>>>>>>>>>radar
>>>>>>>>>>>of concern. Actually in our market if you cant deliver 10-20MB your
>>>>>>>>>>>not
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>playing the game.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Scott Carullo
>>>>>>>>>>>Brevard Wireless
>>>>>>>>>>>321-205-1100 x102
>>>>>>>>>>>-------- Original Message --------
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Jack Unger" <mailto:[email protected]><[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:49 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>To: "WISPA General List"
>>>>>>>>>>>><mailto:[email protected]><[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Holy cow!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>See the attached Case Study and Press Release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Jonathan Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dell, Microsoft Launching Broadband Net In Rural Virginia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Computer Companies Join TDF Foundation, Spectrum Bridge To Debut
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Network
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Using 'White Spaces'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>John Eggerton -- Multichannel News, 10/21/2009 3:47:19 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Computer companies Dell and Microsoft are scheduled to join with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>TDF
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Foundation and Spectrum Bridge Wednesday to launch a broadband
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>network
>>>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>rural Virginia, using the so-called white spaces between TV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>channels.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>House Communications Subcommitee Chairman Rick Boucher, who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>represents
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>rural Virginia, is scheduled to be on hand as the companies host a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Webcast
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>with residents of an Appalachian community talking about how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>wireless
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Interent connectivity can change their lives.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>The government is currently working on a national broadband plan,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>including freeing up even more spectrum space for wireless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Internet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Spectrum Bridge, a sort of Ebay for identifying available spectrum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>secondary markets, launched a Web site in February to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>help identify
>>>>>>>>>>>>>available open TV channels. The site can be used by wireless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Internet
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>providers to figure out whether there is enough spectrum in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>potential
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>service area to make it economically viable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>----
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>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs"
>>>>>>>>>>>>Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993
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>>>>>Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs"
>>>>>Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993
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>>>Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs"
>>>Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993
>>><http://www.ask-wi.com>www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220
>>><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
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>Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs"
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><http://www.ask-wi.com>www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220
><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
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