Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-25 Thread Stuart Pierce
WE collectively NEED handouts from the taxpayers? Like hell we do. All we need is some guts and a willingness to actually risk a bit for what we actually believe in. I think you meant DO WE collectively NEED handouts from the taxpayers? like hell we do not need them.

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-25 Thread Tom DeReggi
Can any of these GB switches (or any brand) give realtime statistics on mbps passing through a router port? I recognize SNMP can query a port's packet count, and the math done via a third party utility. But I'm refering to logging in via telnet or web, and having an easy weay to watch the

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-25 Thread Josh Luthman
You can use an x86 box with RouterOS, but if you're already doing that with Linux it just depends how much time you want to devote to keeping your Linux OS up and running. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-25 Thread Nick Olsen
Not that I'm aware of. I'm sure some of the higher end switches do it (cisco..ect..) RouterOS always does it for me. Nick Olsen Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:27 AM To:

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing

2010-01-25 Thread Andy Trimmell
There's a difference between unlimited use and unlimited downloading. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 11:13 PM To: motor...@afmug.com Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re:

[WISPA] WISPA Announcements

2010-01-25 Thread Rick Harnish
I often receive multiple emails a day from various parties who are interested in getting the word out to our members and subscribers. I will do my best to get these messages to each of you as quickly as possible without spamming you incessantly. While it is often nice to get this information

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-25 Thread Dennis Burgess
If you are looking for Fiber based Switches, I have a number of industrial DC switches, that include Fiber ports etc. We just got done doing a 62 node fiber ring. I think they were around 900 bucks a piece, 10/100 only in this case, but included 30km fiber ports (SM). So they did not have to

[WISPA] Story of Medicine Bow Part 6 of 8 is now online

2010-01-25 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Part 6 of The Story of Medicine Bow is now online at http://www.wirelesscowboys.com/. This segment describes the equipment we decided to use for the deployment and the planning that went into the project. Matt Larsen Vistabeam.com Wirelesscowboys.com Wispdirectory.com

[WISPA] Port Orange, FL coverage

2010-01-25 Thread Dylan Bouterse
If anybody on the list can hit the Port Orange, FL area, please hit me up off list. Thx. Dylan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-25 Thread Tom DeReggi
We currently use 100% Linux based routing and switching solutions. Works great. (Our Custom, MIkrotik, Imagestream, whatever, its all the same concept). All tower devices plug directly into a port on our integrated Linux switch/router. The reason I was asking was.we are about to do a

[WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

2010-01-25 Thread AJ
Anyone have any detailed photos or ideas for side mounting to a wooden utility pole? We have a site that will only allow side mounting at about 35' AGL on a wooden utility pole. I considered building a stand off bracket out of Unistrut and mounting it directly through the hole with galvanized

Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

2010-01-25 Thread Bob Moldashel
Get a piece of 1 1/4 conduit and bend like this: l l l l l l l l And strap it to the pole with stainless hose clamps If you are just mounting an omni you can get away with 1 -B- AJ wrote: Anyone have any detailed photos or ideas for

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-25 Thread Dennis Burgess
We have done both. we have done hardware based switching with fiber networks, etc. But we also have done a 32 site routed homeland security networks. BOth have their advantages. In the case of the hardware switching that we did, we did this cause it is simply a fiber ring. In the case of the

Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

2010-01-25 Thread AJ
I kinda ruled out stainless hose clamps after seeing a solar panel fall from the leg of a Trylon tower about a decade ago... Granted, there were two sharp points (inside ends of the L shaped tower leg) that probably contributed to the failure in high winds, but in this case where it's only wood,

[WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-25 Thread Mike Hammett
I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only available at Cogent and carrier neutral data centers. These facilities are listed on their web site under

Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

2010-01-25 Thread lakeland
Get some conduit straps and screw them into the pole Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: AJ aj.grant...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:10:10 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole? I kinda ruled

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-25 Thread Justin Wilson
I have seen a network feeding 80 megs of cogent for about 3 months now. No complaints for the users. But this network also has a BGP feed from Tier1. We have servers on a cogent link in downtown Chicago. No problems with them and there are 200+ web-sites hosted on those boxes. --

Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

2010-01-25 Thread Scott Reed
Satellite arm and lag bolts. 2 mast, drill 1/4 mount holes, through bolt with lags. Pipe to Pipe standoffs. Discard clamp from one side. Lag bolt to pole. AJ wrote: Anyone have any detailed photos or ideas for side mounting to a wooden utility pole? We have a site that will only allow

Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

2010-01-25 Thread Josh Luthman
We just used the universal mounts and screwed them into the pole. These were at a campground - not sure who they belonged to but no complaints. On 1/25/10, lakel...@gbcx.net lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Get some conduit straps and screw them into the pole Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-25 Thread Jon Auer
2nd that. Cogent in Wisconsin has been solid for us for the past two years or so. I have not heard bad things about their network out of Illinois either. Some people have problems with them in other markets. On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net wrote:    I have seen a

Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

2010-01-25 Thread Scott Parsons
http://www.fab-corp.com/product.php?productid=2896cat=0page=1 One of these might do the trick. Scott -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of AJ Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

2010-01-25 Thread Robert West
Duct Tape. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole? Satellite arm and lag bolts. 2 mast,

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-25 Thread Bret Clark
Had more trouble with our ATT link then our Cogent link...going on two years and only 1 unexpected outage...pays to have BGP! But we do connect to them wirelessly using a Ceragon that runs right to a Colo...so nice to bypass the ILEC's ridiculous prices for fiber!!! Bret Jon Auer wrote:

[WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

2010-01-25 Thread Pat O'Connor
Just looking to see what everyone else is using. I'm in the test phase of a 5.8Ghz AP roll out. TIA Pat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

2010-01-25 Thread Michael Baird
Well how about what not to use, ha. We deployed a 30 db Poynting as a test at a new backhaul, readings weren't that great let it run for a few weeks and it got worse (they catch a bunch of wind), replaced with a 26db Andrew from stock and picked up 4-5 db on both ends. I'm looking for some

Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT forBullet M5HP

2010-01-25 Thread Mike Hammett
They have the AirGrid now. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:42 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

2010-01-25 Thread jp
I'd first check for the stuff electricians mount buried entrance conduits to the pole with like used for the plastic conduit in this photo. http://www.f64.nu/gallery2007/view_photo.php?full=1set_albumName=album182id=DSC7495 We mounted a couple antennas to a pole using a pole-pipe mounting kit

[WISPA] telco cabinet in unserved area

2010-01-25 Thread jp
Roadside SLC/wiring cabinet. http://www.f64.nu/gallery2007/view_photo.php?full=1set_albumName=album182id=DSC7491 We're looking to do some wireless in the neighborhood here. Looks like the phone company has a tough time just keeping dialtone working here. Judging by the ducttape marks on the

Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

2010-01-25 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I just use good lag screws on the standard (or long) sat arms most of the time. marlon - Original Message - From: AJ aj.grant...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 9:49 AM Subject: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole? Anyone have

Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

2010-01-25 Thread Scott Reed
For my PTP links I am replacing grids with dishes. Much lower noise and more stable signal levels. I have use PacWireless grids with good success. Only issue is that several have apparently had water get inside the element. Pat O'Connor wrote: Just looking to see what everyone else is

Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

2010-01-25 Thread Robert West
I'm using a lot of the Pac Wireless grids but only cause they're cheap. If I had the cash I'd go with a dish, not a grid. They work find but in some installs they may as well be an omni for all the RF they scatter. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

2010-01-25 Thread Josh Luthman
I don't think anyone here is wanting dish installs =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Robert West

[WISPA] Mcallen, TX

2010-01-25 Thread Andy Trimmell
Anyone cover Mcallen, TX? We have a customer that is there for a month or so in an RV park there and having some issues getting service. Anyone? Andy Trimmell PDSWireless atrimm...@gmail.com WISPA Wants You! Join

Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

2010-01-25 Thread Pat O'Connor
I want to use the Bullet for a CPE. Sorry, I should have clarified what I was looking for in my original post. Josh Luthman wrote: I don't think anyone here is wanting dish installs =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The

Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

2010-01-25 Thread Josh Luthman
You're talking about an external antenna. I can't imagine even a 2' dish at a customer's house. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Mon, Jan 25, 2010

Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

2010-01-25 Thread Jeromie Reeves
I use the Pac grids with the feed that looks the same as the solid dish feed, not the little metal reflector. The reflectors keep falling off in wind, birds taking them, etc (we pulled FOUR out of a birds nest after the client saw the bird take it). This client only lost 3, we assume one is from

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing

2010-01-25 Thread John Thomas
Read the fine print in the contracts. With ATT, if you call people outside ATT's network too much, they will raise your rates. John Josh Luthman wrote: I expect if it comes to a point where services are degraded and enough customers complain they will do just what Vonage does - find the top

Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

2010-01-25 Thread Robert West
Pasadena wireless has the new AirGrids in stock. I'm gonna test them myself as a CPE, we'll see how they perform. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 5:10 PM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

2010-01-25 Thread Tracy Tippett
I have sold thousands of the grids from Pac Wireless with little if any complaints Tracy Tippett --Original Mail-- From: Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:42:01 -0800 Subject: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing

2010-01-25 Thread Tracy Tippett
Verizon has offered unlimited cell and data plans for several years now --Original Mail-- From: John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org, motor...@afmug.com Sent: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:10:57 -0800 Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing Read

[WISPA] ftp for transfer test

2010-01-25 Thread Marco Coelho
Anyone out there have a FTP server and at least 50M unused pipe (in each direction) that I can test a 50Mb/s pipe with? I've got some definite problems with an older pipe that I would like to get fixed, I just need a test to somewhere outside of my network. Upload testing (download to you) is

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing

2010-01-25 Thread Mike Hammett
It's probably no different than any other carrier's unlimited. It's really not. There's probably a 5 GB data limit and 4k minute voice limit. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Tracy Tippett

Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

2010-01-25 Thread Josh Luthman
I've got two of those used at the office. Two for the price of one. N female connectors. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing

2010-01-25 Thread Tracy Tippett
I have pushed the cellular side into the thousands of minutes without an issue so far but, I didn't opt for the unlimited data so I have a 5 gb package --Original Mail-- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: tractipp...@swiftwireless.com, WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] metered billing

2010-01-25 Thread Dennis Burgess
I have Sprint phone for $99 a month, for everything, used to use like 10k in minutes at one point in time. Never had anythig more expensive. I also used a hacked ROM that lets me ad-hoc my phone to my laptop for net, not bad getting 2 meg though your cell phones wifi! :)

Re: [WISPA] ftp for transfer test

2010-01-25 Thread Dennis Burgess
don't have a FTP site, but MT test box... --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCUME Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website:

Re: [WISPA] telco cabinet in unserved area

2010-01-25 Thread Robert West
I had a dream once about something similar. Then I woke up and discovered that I am the one who really installed it. If hot glue was involved then I could certainly take credit for this one. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?

2010-01-25 Thread Robert West
Mike has used some decent looking chain mounts. Hey Mike, any suggestions??? Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT for Bullet M5HP

2010-01-25 Thread Robert West
But I'm looking at that Backfire dish. Looks good. Grids are okay, I just have issues with the splatter. On the flip side, I have two CPEs connected to a backhaul grid WAY off its path and towards the backside just cause it was the best signal I could get. Bob- -Original Message-

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo

2010-01-25 Thread RickG
I hear $1500 for a gig! On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only

Re: [WISPA] Can anyone recommend a 5GHz grid antenna for UBNT forBullet M5HP

2010-01-25 Thread RickG
I want feedback on those! On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: They have the AirGrid now. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Pat O'Connor