Re: [WISPA] ANOTHER Apex firmware upgrade problem

2010-06-27 Thread Travis Johnson
Yes, we see 6-8db fluctuations during temperature changes... but that's an 18ghz frequency thing, not specific to Trango. We also saw the same changes with our Dragonwave 18ghz links. Travis Microserv Scott Carullo wrote: Make sure you don't use RPS, the ports will not come back up once they

Re: [WISPA] ANOTHER Apex firmware upgrade problem

2010-06-27 Thread can...@believewireless.net
RPS is off. We learned this lesson early on. I've been pinging the other side all night and I'll see a few packets get through occasionally. 200 packets made it through out of 2 last night. Still hoping someone has some ideas!

Re: [WISPA] ANOTHER Apex firmware upgrade problem

2010-06-27 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Never mind about the few packets getting through. I think that is just OSPF changes and it seeing the other end of the link. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] ANOTHER Apex firmware upgrade problem

2010-06-27 Thread can...@believewireless.net
I turned ACM off and ATPC and some packets will get through occassionally. Still seeing 97% packet loss. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

[WISPA] What are the Challenges?

2010-06-27 Thread Rick Harnish
Members and WISP followers, We would like to better understand some of the challenges that many of you face on a daily basis as we continue to fine tune the Regional Meeting Agenda. As you know the 1st Regional Meeting is scheduled for July 21st and 22nd in St. Louis. We have been pleasantly

[WISPA] GFCI outlet trips

2010-06-27 Thread RickG
Anyone had any issues with a GFCI outlet (not breaker) tripping? I've had several outages on this tower and want to stop it. Personally, I dont think the GFCI is necessary as the box is in a class 6 NEMA enclosure. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance! -RickG

Re: [WISPA] GFCI outlet trips

2010-06-27 Thread Brian Webster
Any chance RF Energy is getting in to the wiring? I had a GFCI breaker with a coiled cord trip every time I would use my VHF ham radio gear. Brian -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010

Re: [WISPA] What are the Challenges?

2010-06-27 Thread RickG
Rick, You've done a fantastic job getting great vendors, putting together a wonderful track, and a beautiful hotel venue! Being a Mom Pop WISP has made it a real challenge to get away from town, ESPECIALLY during thunderstorm season. I'm keeping my fingers crossed the weather is kind and I can

Re: [WISPA] GFCI outlet trips

2010-06-27 Thread RickG
Anything is possible. It's a metal enclosure. The only thing in it is a UPS, small switch, and the two, small transformers that power them. Short pigtails lead to the LP's which connect to the coax on the outside of the box. I'm debating whether to replace the GFCI or talk the owner into letting

Re: [WISPA] What are the Challenges?

2010-06-27 Thread Jeremie Chism
I am also trying to figure out a way to get there. Between the weather and other variables it's hard to make an early commitment. If I can go it will be a last minute decision. I think you might find out that other people may be in the same predicament. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 27, 2010,

Re: [WISPA] GFCI outlet trips

2010-06-27 Thread Scott Reed
If the current flow is different between hot and neutral it will trip. Some things to look for: Loose neutral wire on the outlet or in the breaker box. Yes, it can be at either end. Attached device leaking current to ground. A little bit of water somewhere. I have on in my house

Re: [WISPA] What are the Challenges?

2010-06-27 Thread Rick Harnish
Good deal Jeremie. I know the unpredictable weather can toss curve balls at our businesses this time of year. I had surmised that quite a few operators would not be able to make the decision till the last minute. I'm just trying to get a feeling of whether people are writing this event off or

Re: [WISPA] What are the Challenges?

2010-06-27 Thread Jeremie Chism
I recommended the show to alex with axxcelera. Not sure what his decision is. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 27, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote: Good deal Jeremie. I know the unpredictable weather can toss curve balls at our businesses this time of year. I had surmised

Re: [WISPA] GFCI outlet trips

2010-06-27 Thread Justin Wilson
There is a big difference in the quality of GFI outlets. Menards has GFI outlets for $6 and they have ones for $30. The $6 are the old story. You get what you pay for. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support

Re: [WISPA] GFCI outlet trips

2010-06-27 Thread lakeland
We have had problems over the years at sites using GFCI's. In all cases we removed them and hardwired the equipment. Way too many service interuptions with them in place. Obviously you need to maintain code but there are always ways around it. -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Re: [WISPA] GFCI outlet trips

2010-06-27 Thread Blair Davis
GFCI's around here trip every time the lightning flashes. I won't use them to power radio gear. RickG wrote: Anyone had any issues with a GFCI outlet (not breaker) tripping? I've had several outages on this tower and want to stop it. Personally, I dont think the GFCI is necessary as the

Re: [WISPA] GFCI outlet trips

2010-06-27 Thread Tom Sharples
They may have saved your gear tho. We do use them on installs in industrial yards, ports, etc. and there I'm quite sure they saved several camaeras, swiches and power supplies from an untimely demise. Tom S. - Original Message - From: Blair Davis To: WISPA General List Sent:

Re: [WISPA] What are the Challenges?

2010-06-27 Thread Charles Wu
A few comments / thoughts 1. From our experience doing shows, the 500 mile radius drive in crowd will wait until the last possible minute to book - heck, many will decide the day before whether or not they can attend - in addition, we've found that almost 30-40% of your sign-ups will come in

Re: [WISPA] GFCI outlet trips

2010-06-27 Thread Robert West
Check the install. GFCI is ground fault. It should always trip if the ground is open. If not tripping, there is another ground path. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 6:48 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] What are the Challenges?

2010-06-27 Thread Robert West
We originally picked St. Louis With total and absolute respect for the board, we had an online discussion of where and why among all of us and St. Louis really wasn't in the mix. The timing is also weird because the summer, at least for me, is the busiest because the weather is damn best for

Re: [WISPA] What are the Challenges?

2010-06-27 Thread MDK
I've never been to any WISP or ISP con of any kind. Wanted to, but never had the dough to go. First, St Louis? Why? Go to Las Vegas and do it in early November. There's a cheap way to get to Vegas from anywhere in the US, especially at that time of the year. Heck, round trip from the

Re: [WISPA] ANOTHER Apex firmware upgrade problem

2010-06-27 Thread Ian Hastie
Post more info Copy sysinfo from each end of the radio something might stand out. Or assuming your RF is all locked and rssi and MSE are OK then its a feeder port issue so just post sysinfo 4 to view the port status is ON for your cable If not you can set the port speed at 100Nase-T Autoneg and

Re: [WISPA] What are the Challenges?

2010-06-27 Thread Travis Johnson
I voted for Las Vegas as well. If you can find a time when things aren't busy (in Vegas), stuff is really cheap. Travis Microserv MDK wrote: I've never been to any WISP or ISP con of any kind. Wanted to, but never had the dough to go. First, St Louis? Why? Go to Las Vegas and do it