Re: [WISPA] What is this?

2010-12-16 Thread Dennis Burgess @ LTI
A 16 Port KVM with IP access :) You shuld be able to hook 16 servers up, and use a web page, or other IP connection to connect to it :) --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support

Re: [WISPA] Free Press Floods the FCC With Net Neutrality Petitions

2010-12-16 Thread Tom DeReggi
ATT/Verizion/WISPS should be aggressively targeting Comcast subscribers with much better rates, and peering with L3/Netflix everywhere. This is what an ASN and your own IP space buys you. Well thats part of the problem. Do we really have that option? L3 and Netflix often deny peering

Re: [WISPA] Free Press Floods the FCC With Net Neutrality Petitions

2010-12-16 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 12/16/2010 05:07 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: ATT/Verizion/WISPS should be aggressively targeting Comcast subscribers with much better rates, and peering with L3/Netflix everywhere. This is what an ASN and your own IP space buys you. Well thats part of the problem. Do we really have that

[WISPA] Non-compliant POE Injector/Power Controller

2010-12-16 Thread Phil Curnutt
Anybody know if one of these exist? A combination of a Tycon Non Compliant Mid-span injector and a Data Logger Ethernet Power Controller that will run off of VDC input. If some one doesn't make one, someone should. Phil

Re: [WISPA] Non-compliant POE Injector/Power Controller

2010-12-16 Thread Scott Reed
Not sure if they have exactly what you are looking for, but check out the SiteMonitor line athttp://www.packetflux.com/ On 12/16/2010 8:41 AM, Phil Curnutt wrote: Anybody know if one of these exist? A combination of a Tycon Non Compliant Mid-span injector and a Data Logger Ethernet Power

Re: [WISPA] What is this?

2010-12-16 Thread Kevin Neal
It's a 16 Port KVM IP Switch, you have to buy SIPods that are of the USB or PS/2 variety to hook to your server, then you connect this device with the SIPods and you are able to manage multiple servers from one keyboard/monitor, where this also does KVM over IP you can also install the software on

Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg

2010-12-16 Thread Kevin Neal
This isn't in Ohio but when we were upgrading our TW fiber in Idaho, the saleswoman said she can't do any special pricing on circuits less than 100M, we are around $20/M now. -Kevin On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Really? Guess I shouldn’t complain

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-16 Thread David E. Smith
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 16:03, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.ikano.com/vendor/googleapps-key-features_vendor.asp .35 cents a user a month. $4.20 a user per year. I am hearing to switch to google all my users must change there SMTP and POP3 settings to point at google. Ugh, not

Re: [WISPA] What is this?

2010-12-16 Thread Jason Hensley
These are very nice if you can get them to work. I had one but had a LOT of issues with it. Didn't spend a lot of time on it, and wish I had it back now, but yeah, it would be sweet... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] What is this?

2010-12-16 Thread Justin Wilson
Also will bring a decent price on eBay. :-) -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog ­ xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw ­ Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support From: Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com Reply-To:

Re: [WISPA] What is this?

2010-12-16 Thread Brad Belton
We still have one of these in use, but don't use it as much these days now that everything is going virtual. Worked flawlessly for us and was a great tool to have when you needed it in a pinch. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-16 Thread Matt
If the disk space requirements allow go buy some large SSD Intel drives and your disk IO problem will likely go away. I don't buy anything but SSD any more unless I can't fit what I need on one.  We have a larger one I put in our mail server and its not a fast machine but the performance

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-16 Thread Justin Wilson
http://www.networkcomputing.com/deduplication/ssd-poised-to-move-into-the-da ta-center.php Another issue is reliability. SSDs have emerged from the consumer market, where the workload and reliability requirements are low compared to those with enterprise systems. The new drives wear out faster

Re: [WISPA] What is this?

2010-12-16 Thread Mike Hammett
It's worthless, send it to me. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 12/16/2010 12:16 AM, Blake Bowers wrote: DELL POWEREDGE 2161DS 16-PORT KVM IP SWITCH 2161-DS I just found one of these literally laying here. Can anyone tell a technology

Re: [WISPA] What is this?

2010-12-16 Thread Blake Bowers
Ok, do you want me to send a box of cash too? LOL Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent:

[WISPA] Motorola PMP 320

2010-12-16 Thread Carl Shivers
During a breakout session at the recent Wireless Without Limits conference, one of the attendees was touting that they are really impressed with the new Motorola 3.65 GHz system. We have recently installed this system and we are having some problems maintaining links. This attendee told stories

[WISPA] Verizon Network Extender

2010-12-16 Thread Matt
Anyone using one of these? What are actual bandwidth requirements and usage? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Email Accounts

2010-12-16 Thread Matt
Thinking a bit about ATMail now. http://www.atmail.com/linux-email-server/ Seems pretty feature rich. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320

2010-12-16 Thread Justin Wilson
My experience with the Moto 3.65 stuff is the firmware downright stinks. I know they are working on improvements and I have not re-visited this in the past months. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog ­ xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw

Re: [WISPA] Free Press Floods the FCC With Net Neutrality Petitions

2010-12-16 Thread Mike Hammett
You wouldn't connect to NetFlix, but to LimeLight, Akamai, or Level3. This is where multiple WISPs buying bandwidth in aggregate helps out. Could WISPs with bigger (gig+) pipes let us know what percentage of your traffic goes to ASNs 20940 and 22822? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [WISPA] Verizon Network Extender

2010-12-16 Thread David E. Smith
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:28, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone using one of these? What are actual bandwidth requirements and usage? Are you referring to this? http://support.vzw.com/information/network_extender.html I've not used that one, but I've used a similar device from Sprint.

Re: [WISPA] What is this?

2010-12-16 Thread Mike Hammett
You drive a tough bargain. i suppose I can accept your offer, but remember... you owe me. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 12/16/2010 11:24 AM, Blake Bowers wrote: Ok, do you want me to send a box of cash too? LOL Don't take your organs to

Re: [WISPA] Verizon Network Extender

2010-12-16 Thread Matt
Are you referring to this? http://support.vzw.com/information/network_extender.html I've not used that one, but I've used a similar device from Sprint. For calls, the bandwidth used is negligible (40-50kbps). The Verizon one supports EVDO data (Sprint's Airave femtocell didn't, IIRC), so if

Re: [WISPA] Verizon Network Extender

2010-12-16 Thread Robert West
Interesting. Yet another pay for service company passing the transport onto ISPs for free. Good idea on their part though. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:36 PM To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Verizon Network Extender

2010-12-16 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I have one in my office and home. Uses about 50k full duplex per phone conversation up to 3 so a total of 150kbps full duplex. I do not see a problem with any of my customers usiung them. Works flawless. Reason Verizon is telling them it doesn't work with wireless is they are assuming your

[WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

2010-12-16 Thread Mark Nash
When we forward copyright notices from the entertainment industry lawyers to our customers who download illegally-obtained movies, we get a variety of responses from our customers, ranging from none at all, shocked, angry, understanding, etc. This takes the cake...DEFINITELY my

Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

2010-12-16 Thread Steve Barnes
That sounds an awful lot like a conversation I would have had with my dad years ago and a letter he would have stood over me to make sure was said with proper apologetic attitude. Soon after I would be out in the pig barn scraping the walls with a putty knife since it appeared I had way too

Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

2010-12-16 Thread Nick Olsen
We see the same things. Not sure I've ever gotten someone that is angry. Most of them are scared %...@tless. They all hear about people getting nailed for stuff like that. So when you say big brother is watching the normally take notice quick. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106

Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

2010-12-16 Thread Forbes Mercy
Great Steve, Now I have the scent of Pig Barn scrapings in my sensory as I try to decide what to have for lunch, thanks buddy! LOL Forbes On 12/16/2010 11:17 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: That sounds an awful lot like a conversation I would have had with my dad years ago and a letter he would have

Re: [WISPA] [* SPAM (Header)] - content filtering as a premium service for subscribers - Email has different SMTP TO: and MIME TO: fields in the email addresses

2010-12-16 Thread Layne Sisk
We use NetSweeper, works pretty well with minimal support needed. If you would like to test it let me know off list. -Layne Layne Sisk www.ServerPlus.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr Sent: Monday, December 13,

Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

2010-12-16 Thread RickG
Looks like Dad Wisdom is wise and Son Wisdom is now wiser ;) On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: When we forward copyright notices from the entertainment industry lawyers to our customers who download illegally-obtained movies, we get a variety of responses

Re: [WISPA] Free Press Floods the FCC With Net Neutrality Petitions

2010-12-16 Thread Charles N Wyble
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/16/2010 02:07 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: ATT/Verizion/WISPS should be aggressively targeting Comcast subscribers with much better rates, and peering with L3/Netflix everywhere. This is what an ASN and your own IP space buys you. Well thats

Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

2010-12-16 Thread Ryan Spott
LOLz, My wife (the boss) called one dad on our network to ask him to tone down the bit-torrent-ing. She was told by the dad that they did not torrent. Well, they went computer to computer and disconnected each one. When they got to the son's computer they discovered the culprit... :) My wife

Re: [WISPA] Free Press Floods the FCC With Net Neutrality Petitions

2010-12-16 Thread Charles N Wyble
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/16/2010 09:34 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: You wouldn't connect to NetFlix, but to LimeLight, Akamai, or Level3. Sure. You are absolutely correct. Ideally you would connect to an open peering fabric that has all these players on it. That way you

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320

2010-12-16 Thread David Sovereen
The current firmware works very well. If you haven't done so already, upgrade to the latest firmware, as it resolves tons of RF link stability problems. If that's not your issue, please post details. We have PMP320 deployed and are happy with it. Dave On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Justin

Re: [WISPA] Free Press Floods the FCC With Net Neutrality Petitions

2010-12-16 Thread Brian Webster
This sounds like a good idea. To help this I think we should get every WISP to put a pushpin on Google Earth at their peering point(s) and create a master file to talk with these peering partners. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com -Original

Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

2010-12-16 Thread Chuck Profito
Thanks for sharing, it's fun to hear about homeruns! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Spott Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO

Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

2010-12-16 Thread Chuck Profito
Steve, Your Dad sounds like he's related to mine! I spent one LONG summer with a idiot stick (shovel ) in my hands. The first day I thought I figured it out, a month later I wanted nothing to do with farming, by three months, I just wanted tonever mind. -Original Message-

Re: [WISPA] Verizon Network Extender

2010-12-16 Thread Scott Reed
I have at least one customer using this. VZ installed it for them, I think. They would certainly know it is a fixed wireless connection. On 12/16/2010 12:53 PM, Matt wrote: Are you referring to this? http://support.vzw.com/information/network_extender.html I've not used that one, but I've

Re: [WISPA] Free Press Floods the FCC With Net Neutrality Petitions

2010-12-16 Thread jp
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:56:11AM -0800, Charles N Wyble wrote: Let's get some data around this. How many WISPS here have tried to peer? With whom? On what terms? I know Akamai has traffic commits. Do the other players? Let's start some open dialog and as an industry leverage our collective

[WISPA] Looking for Sendmail Consultant

2010-12-16 Thread Gino Villarini
Need to fix some issues, ASAP Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320

2010-12-16 Thread Carl Shivers
I'm running v6.2.4.3 on the SMs and System Release e2.0.1 on the APs. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Sovereen Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320

Re: [WISPA] Free Press Floods the FCC With Net Neutrality Petitions

2010-12-16 Thread Charles N Wyble
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/16/2010 01:01 PM, jp wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:56:11AM -0800, Charles N Wyble wrote: Let's get some data around this. How many WISPS here have tried to peer? With whom? On what terms? I know Akamai has traffic commits. Do the other

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320

2010-12-16 Thread Eric Muehleisen
We have a pretty large 320 network (200 SM's) and just recently had to move to 3.5mhz channel sizes because of self-interference between sectors. The ABAB channel plan will not scale well and you will suffer high packet loss as a result. Once your cluster hits around 20-30 SM's you'll begin to

Re: [WISPA] Verizon Network Extender

2010-12-16 Thread Philip Dorr
It requires GPS (which most people not in caves have) and about 60k connection both ways per conversation (up to 3 conversations). It creates an IPSEC VPN out to Verizon that the voice traffic goes over. On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:36 AM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 2010

Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg

2010-12-16 Thread Jenco Wireless
I'm paying a little more - $2500 for 40 Megs. I feel ripped off !!! There is a 10% margin built in, so its really 44 Megs (Important to know with Butch's QOS) On Dec 16, 2010 9:06 AM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: This isn't in Ohio but when we were upgrading our TW fiber in Idaho, the

Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg

2010-12-16 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
How you been Brad!? Glad to see your still around. -Kurt _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jenco Wireless Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg

Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg

2010-12-16 Thread Jenco Wireless
I've been good - not planning on going anywhere! Just a quiet Lister! On Dec 16, 2010 5:21 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: How you been Brad!? Glad to see your still around. -Kurt _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

2010-12-16 Thread Scott Lambert
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:59:23AM -0800, Mark Nash wrote: When we forward copyright notices from the entertainment industry lawyers to our customers who download illegally-obtained movies, we get a variety of responses from our customers, ranging from none at all, shocked, angry,

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320

2010-12-16 Thread David Sovereen
Are your APs not GPS-synced? Dave On Dec 16, 2010 5:04 PM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com wrote: We have a pretty large 320 network (200 SM's) and just recently had to move to 3.5mhz channel sizes because of self-interference between sectors. The ABAB channel plan will not scale well and

Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

2010-12-16 Thread Rick Harnish
Our first employee was a 14 year old kid that hacked into our server shortly after we started a dialup business in 1995. His payment for the next couple years was hardware. Dang, he must be nearly 30 now. I can promise you he was successful! I went into the office one day and my partner said

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320

2010-12-16 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Of course they are. There is a good document published by Motorola on this very subject *http://tinyurl.com/22quxyu* I've been in contact with 2 other large operators with the exact same situation. They each moved to a ABCD channel plan as well. -Eric On 12/16/2010 4:48 PM, David Sovereen

Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

2010-12-16 Thread Josh Luthman
The Cuckoo's Egg is an amazing book if you have not read it. On Dec 16, 2010 5:56 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote: Our first employee was a 14 year old kid that hacked into our server shortly after we started a dialup business in 1995. His payment for the next couple years was

Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

2010-12-16 Thread Jeromie Reeves
I keep one of my USR 56k modems on the wall =) On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote: Our first employee was a 14 year old kid that hacked into our server shortly after we started a dialup business in 1995.  His payment for the next couple years was hardware.  

Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

2010-12-16 Thread Chuck Hogg
I just had one today, explained to the customer, they called their son. Son said it was legal. I explained it wasn't. They then asked how to change the password on the wireless router. This is their second offense. They are no longer letting their son use it. If he figures it out, I'm going

Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

2010-12-16 Thread Scott Lambert
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 06:17:51PM -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: The Cuckoo's Egg is an amazing book if you have not read it. Yes, good reading. -- Scott LambertKC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lamb...@lambertfam.org

Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

2010-12-16 Thread Forbes Mercy
I have my first 28.8 modem from the beginning of dial-up. On 12/16/2010 4:23 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: I keep one of my USR 56k modems on the wall =) On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Rick Harnishrharn...@wispa.org wrote: Our first employee was a 14 year old kid that hacked into our server

Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

2010-12-16 Thread Scott Reed
Youngster. I don't know that I have it, but my first high-speed modem was 9600. What a boost from 1200 which I used to do my first online class. On 12/16/2010 9:24 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: I have my first 28.8 modem from the beginning of dial-up. On 12/16/2010 4:23 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

2010-12-16 Thread Jason Bailey
Anyone remember the webramp?dial-up router? --- On Thu, 12/16/10, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: From: Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!! To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 9:33 PM Youngster. 

Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

2010-12-16 Thread Greg Ihnen
I remember using one only about 10 years ago. On Dec 16, 2010, at 10:05 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: Anyone remember the webramp?dial-up router? --- On Thu, 12/16/10, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: From: Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO

Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

2010-12-16 Thread Jason Bailey
seems wierd that we have moved so far in such a short time...What will come in the next ten years?iptv for all homes...ouch --- On Thu, 12/16/10, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: From: Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!! To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!

2010-12-16 Thread Forbes Mercy
Oh sure you want to start that, huh? The 28.8 was for my dial-up ISP, I had a Datec 1200 baud modem for my BBS and my Kaypro 10 laptop used a whopping 300 baud. I used to test my lines by warble whistling into the phone. As for computers starters the TI-99 and commodore 64, I wish I was a

Re: [WISPA] Motorola PMP 320

2010-12-16 Thread Matt Jenkins
Can you post what latency looks like when using 1400 byte packets at least 10 ever second? Thanks, - Matt On 12/16/2010 12:06 PM, David Sovereen wrote: The current firmware works very well. If you haven't done so already, upgrade to the latest firmware, as it resolves tons of RF link

Re: [WISPA] Verizon Network Extender

2010-12-16 Thread Matt Jenkins
I have customers in 2+ story stucco houses with tile roofs. They might as well be caves! On 12/16/2010 02:05 PM, Philip Dorr wrote: It requires GPS (which most people not in caves have) and about 60k connection both ways per conversation (up to 3 conversations). It creates an IPSEC VPN out to