Re: [WISPA] dedicated bandwidth

Now we're getting warmer ;) Whether it's asyncronous or syncronous, CIR or MIR, what is it that defines it as dedicated? Is it that they can get their CIR at any given time? Or is it that they use (transfer) Xbps over a given amount of time? I know for my upstream, we have 40Mbps and I expect it

Re: [WISPA] dedicated bandwidth

True. They dont know what they want. On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Robert West wrote: > Maybe you should dig a bit deeper into his expectations. Maybe he doesn’t > want any shaping or messing around with it. Possible he’s had a bad > experience with another provider overselling bandwidth……?

Re: [WISPA] XBOX Restricted NAT Reminder

The only way to make it Open is to 1:1 NAT or make it the default for all packets on their NAT IP. I nat at the border and just assign another IP and do subnet:1 NAt and then make the console the default. Do you have more then 1 customer per NAT IP?? On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Scott Reed wr

Re: [WISPA] dedicated bandwidth

This is an interesting discussion... we have had some internal discussions about this exact topic, I would be very curious as to the answers if others are willing to share. From our side, technically we know that someone who is using a 'nailed' up connection taxes our system a lot more than ot

Re: [WISPA] dedicated bandwidth

x is what ever speed you are selling him.  1Meg bit per sec? 10 Meg bit per sec? On 12/28/2010 10:46 PM, RickG wrote: I want to know what "x" is ;) On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Blair Davis wrote:

Re: [WISPA] dedicated bandwidth

Exactly. Other bandwidth (residential for example) is best effort. In cases where we sell dedicated wireless, it comes with an SLA and is typically a PtP shot instead of PtMP. Or if it is PtMP, it's on a "dedicated" AP and is not over-subscribed like a normal AP would be. Nick On 12/28/2010

Re: [WISPA] dedicated bandwidth

Maybe you should dig a bit deeper into his expectations. Maybe he doesn't want any shaping or messing around with it. Possible he's had a bad experience with another provider overselling bandwidth..? Who knows. Time to sit down and qualify his wants against his real needs. Lots of time they ha

Re: [WISPA] dedicated bandwidth

To me there are two types of dedicated. First, the same dedicated that you would buy as fiber. Big $$$. A straight route from him and right out the gateway. Second, not an "Up To" speed but a guaranteed number set through your routing rules. One set for him no matter what, the rest for everyon

Re: [WISPA] dedicated bandwidth

I want to know what "x" is ;) On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Blair Davis wrote: > Dedicated bandwidth is Committed Information Rate or CIR > > They are hard limited to x. They get x no matter what. x of your backhaul > is dedicated for their use. > > On 12/28/2010 10:05 PM, RickG wrote: >

Re: [WISPA] dedicated bandwidth

Dedicated bandwidth is Committed Information Rate or CIR They are hard limited to x.  They get x no matter what.  x of your backhaul is dedicated for their use. On 12/28/2010 10:05 PM, RickG wrote: Sorry, I'm not being clear. What defines the difference b

Re: [WISPA] dedicated bandwidth

Sorry, I'm not being clear. What defines the difference between your dedicated and non-dedicated? In other words, why would a customer pay more for it? On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Jeremie Chism wrote: > My dedicated plan is a capped bandwidth. No limit on usage per month. > > Sent from my

Re: [WISPA] XBOX Restricted NAT Reminder

Does UPnP help? On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Robert West wrote: > That would be this one.. > > http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Live/EngineeringBlog/NATs-and-xbox-live > > It was originally from Liam. > > Bob- > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wirele

Re: [WISPA] dedicated bandwidth

My dedicated plan is a capped bandwidth. No limit on usage per month. Sent from my iPhone4 On Dec 28, 2010, at 8:58 PM, RickG wrote: > I appreciate all the feedback but my questions was not about cost, it was > about definition. What defines dedicated? Is it a minimum amount of bandwidth > p

Re: [WISPA] dedicated bandwidth

I appreciate all the feedback but my questions was not about cost, it was about definition. What defines dedicated? Is it a minimum amount of bandwidth per hour, day, week, month or ? On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Blair Davis wrote: > commercial connection. sell as x amount of bits/sec and

Re: [WISPA] XBOX Restricted NAT Reminder

That would be this one.. http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Live/EngineeringBlog/NATs-and-xbox-live It was originally from Liam. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 5:43 PM

Re: [WISPA] dedicated bandwidth

Had a similar discussion with Liam at DataCom Specialist a week or so ago. He has a customer wanting his own "private" network and dedicated bandwidth but also wants it at 3 or 4 buildings, local wifi access and all. We were kicking around not only the network and equipment but also charging for t

Re: [WISPA] dedicated bandwidth

commercial connection.  sell as x amount of bits/sec and bill accordingly. On 12/28/2010 2:53 PM, RickG wrote: I have a customer that I suspect will use the connection 24x7. How does everyone define a "dedicated" connection?  -- -RickG

Re: [WISPA] XBOX Restricted NAT Reminder

Thank you, Blake. That is the one. After the memory refresh, I still have one question. The router doing the NAT is a Mikrotik running 3.30. Is there a way to make it do Open NAT? On 12/28/2010 7:41 PM, Blake Covarrubias wrote: > On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Scott Reed wrote: > >> I know som

Re: [WISPA] XBOX Restricted NAT Reminder

That's my point. I am pretty sure you can dstnat and the other xbox will stay closed/restricted NAT. On Dec 28, 2010 7:57 PM, "Scott Reed" wrote: > Well now I don't think I can do that to the one customer since the NAT > is at the border. Then all the other customers would call because their > ga

Re: [WISPA] XBOX Restricted NAT Reminder

Well now I don't think I can do that to the one customer since the NAT is at the border. Then all the other customers would call because their game doesn't work. And that customer has a least 2 units. On 12/28/2010 7:19 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Then you will need to port forward 3074 to the x

Re: [WISPA] XBOX Restricted NAT Reminder

On Dec 28, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Scott Reed wrote: > I know someone posted a link to an excellent description of Microsoft's > definition of restrict NAT, etc. > I can not find that link. Would someone please remind me where to look. http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Live/EngineeringBlog/NATs-and-xbox-live

Re: [WISPA] XBOX Restricted NAT Reminder

Then you will need to port forward 3074 to the xbox. Obviously limited to 1 that way. On Dec 28, 2010 7:16 PM, "Scott Reed" wrote: > Since we NAT at the border, a packet sent to the address/port > combination will get to the customer XBox. They are using a switch on > the inside. > > On 12/28/201

Re: [WISPA] XBOX Restricted NAT Reminder

Since we NAT at the border, a packet sent to the address/port combination will get to the customer XBox. They are using a switch on the inside. On 12/28/2010 7:13 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Did you PAT to the xbox? Ie if a packet is sent to the customers ip seen by the world, would it hit the

Re: [WISPA] XBOX Restricted NAT Reminder

Did you PAT to the xbox? Ie if a packet is sent to the customers ip seen by the world, would it hit the xbox? On Dec 28, 2010 7:08 PM, "Scott Reed" wrote: > Since we have all ports open, well at least the ones described in > anything I can find about XBox NAT, and NAT at the border, why would > c

Re: [WISPA] XBOX Restricted NAT Reminder

Since we have all ports open, well at least the ones described in anything I can find about XBox NAT, and NAT at the border, why would customers not have "open" NAT? On 12/28/2010 7:03 PM, Sam Tetherow wrote: > Not the best description, but > http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=451043 >

Re: [WISPA] XBOX Restricted NAT Reminder

Not the best description, but http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=451043 I know the post you are talking about, but I can't seem to find it either. On 12/28/10 4:43 PM, Scott Reed wrote: > I know someone posted a link to an excellent description of Microsoft's > definition of restrict NAT,

[WISPA] XBOX Restricted NAT Reminder

I know someone posted a link to an excellent description of Microsoft's definition of restrict NAT, etc. I can not find that link. Would someone please remind me where to look. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrot

Re: [WISPA] dedicated bandwidth

I don't have caps. I do offer dedicated or best effort. I have radio stations that stream audio 24/7 on best effort. I really don't care how they use it. The difference is on best effort if the system gets congested they are not "guaranteed" the bandwidth will be there to support their applicat

Re: [WISPA] dedicated bandwidth

We do not have a dedicated service for residential. We charge 59/mo for 50GB and 99/mo for 100GB. If they go over twice we bump them to the next level of service. We will be going to metered billing in the spring which will solve this type of problem - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [

Re: [WISPA] dedicated bandwidth

My cost * 1.45, plus any other costs for transport between my connection and them J They are going ot use it, they have to pay for it. --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Servi

[WISPA] dedicated bandwidth

I have a customer that I suspect will use the connection 24x7. How does everyone define a "dedicated" connection? -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -

[WISPA] computer service business

I know many of you are involved in computer repair/service in addition to your WISP efforts. Does anyone have any information they are willing to share regarding buying/selling a computer repair/service business. I'm looking at getting back into that business as well as doing the WISP thing.

Re: [WISPA] [Wisp] Local Broadband Stimulus Winner asks for more Money?

LOL, yep . in fact going to one of their 'parties' tonight. I got a phone call from the Mayor of Farmington yesterday and he actually confirmed it, in a way. A building down the street was recently purchased for $900k and they tore the building down. This property, while not on Main street, b

Re: [WISPA] [Wisp] Local Broadband Stimulus Winner asks for more Money?

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