Re: [WISPA] Looking for startup suggestions

2017-02-02 Thread Jay Weekley
Don't choose a product line just because it's cheap. Chadwick Wachs wrote: > We are a small co-op WISP and one of our goals was to publicly > document what we do. For some basic beginning info, take a look at: > http://www.auwireless.net/blog/ > > This is not to say this is the model or even

Re: [WISPA] Looking for startup suggestions

2017-02-02 Thread Mike Francis
One thing I see a lot are people who focus so much on being a WISP that they forget it is also a real business. I have no idea about your business experience, but having a good foundation and some systems in place to start with will go a long way. There are a lot of WISPS/ISPs who are

Re: [WISPA] Looking for startup suggestions

2017-02-02 Thread Chadwick Wachs
We are a small co-op WISP and one of our goals was to publicly document what we do. For some basic beginning info, take a look at: http://www.auwireless.net/blog/ This is not to say this is the model or even the right way to start a WISP. It is simply what we did. Some of it works, some of it

[WISPA] Looking for startup suggestions

2017-02-02 Thread Mark Limehouse
I am at the discovery and the beginning of research to start a WISP within my state (Wisconsin). My focus is to make this into a solid business model that I can build and expand eventually. I am taking my time I want to do this right and address all potential pitfalls or "gotchas" that may be

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Digest, Vol 61, Issue 2

2017-02-02 Thread Sam Tetherow
5 - $19.95/mo >> >>13 - $34.95/mo. >> >> >> >> What do fiber providers charge? >> >> >> >> I have a potential client that currently has a /27 with his current >> provider, and would like at least a /27 or preferably a /26 from us. &g

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Digest, Vol 61, Issue 2

2017-02-02 Thread Josh Luthman
> > > > We only have a /21 worth of space from ARIN. > > > ___ > Wireless mailing > listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > ___ &

Re: [WISPA] Residential service terms

2017-02-02 Thread Sam Tetherow
I've always been month to month with an install fee to cover the install. I know several others that after the contract has expired they convert to a month to month at the same rate. The idea being the contract term is just to cover the cost of the install. Having a longer term contract is

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Digest, Vol 61, Issue 2

2017-02-02 Thread Scott Reed
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Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

2017-02-02 Thread Fred Goldstein
On 2/2/2017 3:43 PM, redes wrote: We charge 8€/Mo/IP here in north of Spain... El Robert Dillon , 2 feb. 2017 4:42 p. m. escribió: We also charge $5/IP/Mo for residential customers and one free IP for business customers with $5/IP/Mo for additional IPs. For

Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

2017-02-02 Thread redes
We charge 8€/Mo/IP here in north of Spain... El Robert Dillon , 2 feb. 2017 4:42 p. m. escribió: We also charge $5/IP/Mo for residential customers and one free IP for business customers with $5/IP/Mo for additional IPs.  For subnet routed customer IPs we

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Digest, Vol 61, Issue 2

2017-02-02 Thread OOLLC-Support
wireless > > > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > ___ > Wireless mailing list > Wi

Re: [WISPA] Residential service terms

2017-02-02 Thread Timothy Steele
Contract or no contract the type of people that pay install fee then quite are the same that's will never change only way around that is to charge more for install to a price people like that would not be willing to pay On Thu, Feb 2, 2017, 1:40 PM James Wilson wrote: > We

Re: [WISPA] Residential service terms

2017-02-02 Thread James Wilson
We don't have a contract either, but we do a pretty good job of keeping customers happy. But we're in a pretty rural area. Frontier DSL is pretty bad here and there isn't much cable available. On Feb 2, 2017 1:34 PM, "Martha Huizenga" wrote: > We no longer have a

Re: [WISPA] Residential service terms

2017-02-02 Thread Martha Huizenga
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[WISPA] Urgently Looking for Andrew 6 ghz 3' Feedhorn

2017-02-02 Thread Gino Villarini
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Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

2017-02-02 Thread Jerimiah Cole
We view the cost as purely administrative, so $5/mo regardless of the quantity. Jerimiah On 02/01/2017 07:22 PM, Colton Conor wrote: How much do you charge business customers for static IPs? Comcast Business class cable internet charges *1 - $14.95/mo.* * 5 - $19.95/mo* * 13 - $34.95/mo*.

Re: [WISPA] Residential service terms

2017-02-02 Thread Clay Stewart
Offer both with a dollar amount between month-to-month and 2 year. On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Daniel Peoples wrote: > Quick question, what is your length of contract for a residential > customer? Do you move to a month to month after that term? > > We've always done a

[WISPA] Residential service terms

2017-02-02 Thread Daniel Peoples
Quick question, what is your length of contract for a residential customer? Do you move to a month to month after that term? We've always done a straight month to month agreement and our customers of course love that and for the most part they stay. But in doing account audits we have a quite a

Re: [WISPA] Federal requirements for video providers

2017-02-02 Thread Layne Sisk
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Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

2017-02-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Yup - http://www.ipv4auctions.com Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 2/2/17 7:33 AM, Colton Conor wrote: > > Let me ask this a different way. If I ran out

Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

2017-02-02 Thread Josh Luthman
$500/year for ARIN Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Colton Conor wrote: > Seth, > > Looks like you are right based on this http://www.ipv4auctions. > com/previous_auctions/ >

Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

2017-02-02 Thread Colton Conor
Seth, Looks like you are right based on this http://www.ipv4auctions.com/previous_auctions/ So that comes out to $15 per IP, but that's a one-time cost to me right? The I assume I have to pay ARIN fees on the block I would buy once transferred to me. So on a monthly basis, how do you calculate

Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

2017-02-02 Thread Robert Dillon
We also charge $5/IP/Mo for residential customers and one free IP for business customers with $5/IP/Mo for additional IPs. For subnet routed customer IPs we do each on a case by case basis but that is very rare for us. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

2017-02-02 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/2/17 7:33 AM, Colton Conor wrote: > Let me ask this a different way. If I ran out of IP space today, and had > to go buy a /24 for someone how much would that cost on the open market? Probably $4k for a /24. ~Seth ___ Wireless mailing list

Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

2017-02-02 Thread Colton Conor
Let me ask this a different way. If I ran out of IP space today, and had to go buy a /24 for someone how much would that cost on the open market? I know you can't get them from ARIN anymore, so would it be a per year or per month cost from whoever we leased them from? The customer is on a bonded

Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

2017-02-02 Thread Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net
For me it is cost I pay per IP block. I have a small block so price is higher.   One supplier I checked was $70/month for 5 public IPs, so $14/month/IP.  The bigger the block I got the better the pricing. Majority is private and very small amount is public IPs for me. Sent from my Verizon,

Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

2017-02-02 Thread Bryce Duchcherer
Agreed, at that point you should be selling them a dedicated connection, not just a regular business account. I don’t think that $5-10/IP is too much. Bryce D NETAGO From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017

Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

2017-02-02 Thread Simon Westlake
When I was at TWC, we would give out up to a /24 to a customer if they could justify it. Beyond that, we'd push them to go to ARIN. This was on fiber, if they were on coax, it was super expensive (like $50+ for a /29) There was list pricing on the static IPs, but it was one of the first

Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

2017-02-02 Thread Brad Belton
If they are able to legitimately justify a /26 in IP space then it’s possible you aren’t charging enough for your service. Brad From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Way Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 9:14 AM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

2017-02-02 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/2/17 7:13 AM, Colton Conor wrote: > So a /26 has 64 total IPs, but only 62 are useable. So you are saying > you would charge $5 - $10 per IP times 62 IPs? The cost of their statics > would then cost more than the actual service? Consider the value of how many other individual customers you

Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

2017-02-02 Thread Colton Conor
Agreed, but I need to be able to justify this pricing somehow. What does AT charge if you get their Fiber MIS product? Is it unlimited with justification or what? What are most fiber providers doing even the ones that have extremely large blocks? On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Tim Way

Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

2017-02-02 Thread Josh Luthman
If they want a /26 they're paying way more than $600 for service. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Colton Conor wrote: > So a /26 has 64 total IPs, but only 62 are useable.

Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

2017-02-02 Thread Tim Way
Life in IPv4 is getting more expensive as scarcity increases. On Feb 2, 2017 9:13 AM, "Colton Conor" wrote: > So a /26 has 64 total IPs, but only 62 are useable. So you are saying you > would charge $5 - $10 per IP times 62 IPs? The cost of their statics would > then

Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

2017-02-02 Thread Colton Conor
So a /26 has 64 total IPs, but only 62 are useable. So you are saying you would charge $5 - $10 per IP times 62 IPs? The cost of their statics would then cost more than the actual service? On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Scott Pope wrote: > We charge $8.50 per month/per

Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

2017-02-02 Thread Scott Pope
We charge $8.50 per month/per IP for our Static IP addresses. This has been our pricing for 10+ years. -- Scott Pope Network and Operations Officer Arbuckle Communications, LLC Office: 580-226-1234 Mobile: 580-277-1108 sp...@arbucklecomm.com www.arbucklecomm.com *"We Are Built For Business"*

Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

2017-02-02 Thread Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net
$5/month/IP Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Judd Dare Date: 2/1/17 9:28 PM (GMT-05:00) To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing Typical cost is around $1-2/IP/Month with