[WISPA] tower lighting

2008-04-21 Thread chris cooper
Does anyone know if there is a process/procedure at the commission that citizens can engage to get a tower owner to change their lighting? There is a new cell tower in my area (rural) that has white strobes that is impacting the viewshed in the area. I know that the owner can amend their EA, but

Re: [WISPA] tower lighting

2008-04-21 Thread Alex
] tower lighting Does anyone know if there is a process/procedure at the commission that citizens can engage to get a tower owner to change their lighting? There is a new cell tower in my area (rural) that has white strobes that is impacting the viewshed in the area. I know that the owner can amend

Re: [WISPA] tower lighting

2008-04-21 Thread Blake Bowers
9:53 AM Subject: [WISPA] tower lighting Does anyone know if there is a process/procedure at the commission that citizens can engage to get a tower owner to change their lighting? There is a new cell tower in my area (rural) that has white strobes that is impacting the viewshed in the area. I

Re: [WISPA] tower lighting

2008-04-21 Thread Chuck McCown
might get a copy and become familiar with it. - Original Message - From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower lighting Tower lighting is Regulated by the FCC, and I don't

Re: [WISPA] tower lighting

2008-04-21 Thread Kenneth M. Chipps Ph.D.
We had the same thing about a mile from us. A couple of the neighbors called the tower owner. They changed it to white strobes during the day and red lights after dusk controlled by a sensor. I did not ask the neighbors how much trouble it was, but the change happened pretty quickly so I

Re: [WISPA] tower lighting

2008-04-21 Thread Chuck McCown
I will say, as a pilot, I do appreciate the white strobes during the day. - Original Message - From: Kenneth M. Chipps Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower lighting We had the same thing about

Re: [WISPA] tower lighting

2008-04-21 Thread Rick Harnish
lighting I will say, as a pilot, I do appreciate the white strobes during the day. - Original Message - From: Kenneth M. Chipps Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower lighting We had the same

Re: [WISPA] tower lighting

2008-04-21 Thread Bryan Scott
Rick Harnish wrote: My understanding (no research done) is that if there are strobe lights installed, the towers do not have to be painted red/white. Therefore, many tower companies are installing strobes to cut down on maintenance (painting) of their towers. A night/day system which

Re: [WISPA] tower lighting

2008-04-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Over 200 they have to light. That is for certain. But I have seen taller that were lit with strobes and not painted. - Original Message - From: Bryan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower

Re: [WISPA] tower lighting

2008-04-21 Thread Alex
I use to build communications towers for a living, and what you say about the strobe is true. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryan Scott Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower lighting

Re: [WISPA] tower lighting

2008-04-21 Thread Blake Bowers
card today. - Original Message - From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower lighting I use to build communications towers for a living, and what you say about the strobe is true. -Original

Re: [WISPA] tower lighting

2008-04-21 Thread Blake Bowers
. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower lighting Over 200 they have to light. That is for certain. But I have seen taller that were lit with strobes

Re: [WISPA] tower lighting

2008-04-21 Thread Chuck McCown
But if you don't strobe in day do you have to paint? - Original Message - From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower lighting Nope. Thats untrue. You can elect to strobe the tower

Re: [WISPA] tower lighting

2008-04-21 Thread Brian Webster
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:53 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] tower lighting Does anyone know if there is a process/procedure at the commission that citizens can engage to get a tower owner to change their lighting

Re: [WISPA] tower lighting

2008-04-21 Thread Blake Bowers
21, 2008 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower lighting The problem with changing the strobe is that they will have to then paint the tower for daytime operations. This is the seven segment orange and white pattern typically. Most tower owners don't want to do this because painting the tower

Re: [WISPA] tower lighting

2008-04-21 Thread Blake Bowers
@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower lighting But if you don't strobe in day do you have to paint? - Original Message - From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:00 AM Subject

Re: [WISPA] tower lighting

2008-04-21 Thread Mike Hammett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower lighting Rick Harnish wrote: My understanding (no research done) is that if there are strobe lights installed, the towers do not have to be painted red/white. Therefore

Re: [WISPA] tower lighting

2008-04-21 Thread Alex
lol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower lighting I'm no expert, but I have seen many towers with significant height that aren't painted

Re: [WISPA] tower lighting

2008-04-21 Thread Mike Hammett
: Re: [WISPA] tower lighting I would not guess that the issue is the strobe during the day, but the issue would be the strobe at night. Leaving the strobe, and changing it to a dual mode system is do-able, and will not require the tower to be painted. If they have an issue with the strobe

Re: [WISPA] tower lighting

2008-04-21 Thread Bryan Scott
I'm no expert, but I have seen many towers with significant height that aren't painted. Heck, to that extent, buildings over 200' would need to be red\white, then. The best part about posting to large lists is how quickly third-party information is either substantiated or shredded to

Re: [WISPA] tower lighting

2008-04-21 Thread Alex
Finally!! Some closure. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower lighting Okay, here are the rules from the source: http

Re: [WISPA] tower lighting

2008-04-21 Thread Blake Bowers
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Re: [WISPA] tower lighting

2008-04-21 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
Okay, here are the rules from the source: http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/b993dcdfc37fcdc486257251005c4e21/$FILE/AC70_7460_1K.pdf Generally, towers over 200' or that rise above a projected plane of protection (no pun intended) around a public