Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows
Let me know, me and my stand up waverunner will be there if your kicking up a big wake... :) Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I just lit up my second lake resort. And I've got a nice little (old, '73) open bow boat. It's a fun little ride. 18 feet with a 302 v8 in it! One of these days I'm gonna take that out and put in a bit more cam and another point of compression. I'll let you guys know when I have time to get the "marlon cam" running from out on the water. I'm just dying to see how my vonage system works on the water too! I'm gonna find me a water proof cordless phone and I'm gonna make a phone call while I'm skiing! laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "A. Huppenthal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows WISPCON? dghnuts.. .a... call me homer... I'm there man... I'll bring the Chianta Classico Roberto Stucchi 2001 to wash them down ($8) I'm still excited about the tent camp WISPA meeting... we all just drive someplace that's got a lake, river, a field for camping out with the family, or someone elses' family.. a few trees, a microphone and place for any of us to get up and talk about the latest 50 mile shot @ 30 megabits, 100 customers per AP, 4.9 Ghz frying pan, community broadband concepts, all off the cuff and unplanned, un-regulated... contest to see who can come the closest to breaking FCC regs on AP, backhaul and SM.. or just jetskis and we call it the WiFi Ride... :-) Its true, I'd prefer to just hang with the rest of the couragous, hard headed, independent, 'I ain't buying nothing from nobody unless I get to dissassemble it' WISPr's than listen to sales talk, but that's me. Maybe Trango would sponsor a week long burn in of the Atlas radios. WISPCON may have to do for me... Any jetskis at WISPCON... doughnuts after shots of tequila, petition-signing to stop all DSL/Cable/Community anti-trust activities, and a march on the City Hall (whatever City it is) would give me a giggle as well. hmmm.. A couple of places come to mind.. Anyone got a tractor and a field with a lake close by? I smell Woodstock WiFi. Mac Dearman wrote: I couldn't agree more with you Alex - - $500.00 smackers is a bunch for meeting up with my wireless bud's. I am gonna attend the WISPCON this time around and I would really love to go to ISPCON. I talked to Larsen the other day and about it and that is my plans. I aint gonna pay no $500.00 to learn how to spell antenna, but I will spend $5K to meet up with some of y'all. We can get together and have our own grown up discussion about whatever we feel relevant - - - -- - - - So - - You gonna make WispCon? I will get the room with double beds and you can shack with me. We can trash the bar every night and eat all the donuts early in the morning while everyone else is learning about microwave paths and how to add up how many mw's make a watt!! I do know that there are free buffets at certain hotels as well IF you can get to the 4th floor!! Damn - - I have turned into bad blood hanging with all these other ISP's Harnish - - where you gonna be and what you gonna attend? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Gas Prices
We were about to. But the gear I use has just come down so, for the first time, I'm not lowering my install prices. We're also getting more aggressive about charging people for service calls not caused by my gear (the radio, even when they own it falls under my gear). Mainly though, we're just sucking up $700 per month in fuel costs. Hoping they come down again soon. Or we will have to put a trip charge in place. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 4:00 PM Subject: [WISPA] Gas Prices Is anyone bumping up their install or monthly fees to offset high gas prices? Gas went up over 60 cents this week. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows
I just lit up my second lake resort. And I've got a nice little (old, '73) open bow boat. It's a fun little ride. 18 feet with a 302 v8 in it! One of these days I'm gonna take that out and put in a bit more cam and another point of compression. I'll let you guys know when I have time to get the "marlon cam" running from out on the water. I'm just dying to see how my vonage system works on the water too! I'm gonna find me a water proof cordless phone and I'm gonna make a phone call while I'm skiing! laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "A. Huppenthal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows WISPCON? dghnuts.. .a... call me homer... I'm there man... I'll bring the Chianta Classico Roberto Stucchi 2001 to wash them down ($8) I'm still excited about the tent camp WISPA meeting... we all just drive someplace that's got a lake, river, a field for camping out with the family, or someone elses' family.. a few trees, a microphone and place for any of us to get up and talk about the latest 50 mile shot @ 30 megabits, 100 customers per AP, 4.9 Ghz frying pan, community broadband concepts, all off the cuff and unplanned, un-regulated... contest to see who can come the closest to breaking FCC regs on AP, backhaul and SM.. or just jetskis and we call it the WiFi Ride... :-) Its true, I'd prefer to just hang with the rest of the couragous, hard headed, independent, 'I ain't buying nothing from nobody unless I get to dissassemble it' WISPr's than listen to sales talk, but that's me. Maybe Trango would sponsor a week long burn in of the Atlas radios. WISPCON may have to do for me... Any jetskis at WISPCON... doughnuts after shots of tequila, petition-signing to stop all DSL/Cable/Community anti-trust activities, and a march on the City Hall (whatever City it is) would give me a giggle as well. hmmm.. A couple of places come to mind.. Anyone got a tractor and a field with a lake close by? I smell Woodstock WiFi. Mac Dearman wrote: I couldn't agree more with you Alex - - $500.00 smackers is a bunch for meeting up with my wireless bud's. I am gonna attend the WISPCON this time around and I would really love to go to ISPCON. I talked to Larsen the other day and about it and that is my plans. I aint gonna pay no $500.00 to learn how to spell antenna, but I will spend $5K to meet up with some of y'all. We can get together and have our own grown up discussion about whatever we feel relevant - - - -- - - - So - - You gonna make WispCon? I will get the room with double beds and you can shack with me. We can trash the bar every night and eat all the donuts early in the morning while everyone else is learning about microwave paths and how to add up how many mw's make a watt!! I do know that there are free buffets at certain hotels as well IF you can get to the 4th floor!! Damn - - I have turned into bad blood hanging with all these other ISP's Harnish - - where you gonna be and what you gonna attend? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DSS Ubolts
NAPA Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Ryan Carney To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 8:11 AM Subject: [WISPA] DSS Ubolts Does anybody know where to find ubolt kits to attach the DSS style mounts to non-penetrating roof mounts, roof grids, etc Ryan Carney AirInfinite 404.601.1400 office 404.475.8537 cell -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] GOOGLE MAP - Adding Your WISP + New Features
<> For those interested in their own Wireless PreQual Tool fully integrated into your website with your coverage areas, we have just such a tool. It comes with a price; however, for Service Providers with wide coverage areas, a sales organization, reseller channel, and an interest in reducing truck rolls, this tool can be invaluable. http://demo.netlogix.com – click on “Enhanced Service Prequalification”. Please feel free to contact me off-list if interested. Respectfully, Eric DaVersa Vice-President, Business Development NetLogix OFFICE: 858.764.1998 CELL: 858.245.6702 FAX: 858.764.1982 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 12:03 PM To: wispa; John Resig Subject: [WISPA] GOOGLE MAP - Adding Your WISP + New Features Team, UPDATE: Single Point for Wisp is NOT on the plate - we've scrapped the idea .. thx tom. NEW FEATURES: The map is pretty solid.. we CURRENTLY are adding a cool, 1) SCROLL WHEEL ZOOM feature... so a click will just be a click ... 2) Loggin For self editing... 3) State Filter ADDING YOUR WISP: BUT.. since the ADD URL feature is still Down... if you want to get yourself on the map now... http://wifi-hotspot.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/inputpreview.html is the admin panel... i just tested it... it works well. HOW TO ADD YOUR WISP: 1. Make sure that you use the very LAST FORM. 2. Check, USE CURRENT GPS ON 3. under category, type, "wisp" 4. align your AP center to the cross hairs - you gotta zoom 5. Enter as much info as you can... the Address fields are now functional AND adding addresses will help for the state level filter Hit enter. thx.. and please let NON Wispa.org wisps know too... so that is map becomes popular and we all get more traffic _ IF there are some HUGE urgent correction issues.. lemme know what they are.. i will TRY to fit them in.. .. BUT since we will be going V1.0 soon.. your LOGIN/ADMIN feature may be ready for you to self correct.. thanks! -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisor http://evdo-coverage.com http://wirelessinternetcoverage.com http://hsdpa-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 102 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Gas Prices
Living in the Ottawa, Canada region, we just hit $1.10 per LITRE. For our friends in the U.S. - there are about 4 litres in one gallon. Linda Linda Pond President Customer Connects "Bridging Technology Relationships" www.customerconnects.com 613-253-0240 (w) 613-291-2884 (c) - Original Message - From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gas Prices We hit 2.60/gal this week. I heard some places are over 3.00/gal. This is insane. Just 3 more years of it, anyone think they can make it at 5/gal? Time for a air powered car. http://www.theaircar.com/ or maybe just a bicycle Jeromie Brian Rohrbacher wrote: > Is anyone bumping up their install or monthly fees to offset high gas > prices? Gas went up over 60 cents this week. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] GOOGLE MAP - Adding Your WISP + New Features
Team, UPDATE: Single Point for Wisp is NOT on the plate - we've scrapped the idea .. thx tom. NEW FEATURES: The map is pretty solid.. we CURRENTLY are adding a cool, 1) SCROLL WHEEL ZOOM feature... so a click will just be a click ... 2) Loggin For self editing... 3) State Filter ADDING YOUR WISP: BUT.. since the ADD URL feature is still Down... if you want to get yourself on the map now... http://wifi-hotspot.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/inputpreview.html is the admin panel... i just tested it... it works well. HOW TO ADD YOUR WISP: 1. Make sure that you use the very LAST FORM.2. Check, USE CURRENT GPS ON 3. under category, type, "wisp" 4. align your AP center to the cross hairs - you gotta zoom 5. Enter as much info as you can... the Address fields are now functional AND adding addresses will help for the state level filter Hit enter. thx.. and please let NON Wispa.org wisps know too... so that is map becomes popular and we all get more traffic _ IF there are some HUGE urgent correction issues.. lemme know what they are.. i will TRY to fit them in.. .. BUT since we will be going V1.0 soon.. your LOGIN/ADMIN feature may be ready for you to self correct.. thanks! -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Advisorhttp://evdo-coverage.comhttp://wirelessinternetcoverage.com http://hsdpa-coverage.com2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101Suite 102Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007206 984 0880 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] winog
Title: Re: [WISPA] winog I vote for bikini’s :) From: Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 18:18:24 -0400 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] winog How about some nice caribbean sun down here in Puerto Ricoocean front conference room with bikini view ! Gino From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 6:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] winog And then there is always Grand Rapids, MI. :) Heck, as long as it is in the midwest. Butch Evans wrote: On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Jeff Mabry wrote: WiNOG 3 - How about St. Louis, MO? Yeah...I'd vote for that. Or Malden, MO. Population 5000. :-) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DSS Ubolts
We went to our local hardware store and bought u-bolts to fit the place we needed them to fit. I think we've had to re-drill just one DSS mount so far. BTW, I've got a DSS mount at the top of a 28 foot telephone pole, connected to a cheap grid, so I could get 10 degrees of downtilt when the cheapo grid mount had nada. This was a case of putting in a very cheap AP to service just 1 or two clients in a canyon this pole overlooks. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot netFast Internet, NO WIRES!- - Original Message - From: Ryan Carney To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 8:11 AM Subject: [WISPA] DSS Ubolts Does anybody know where to find ubolt kits to attach the DSS style mounts to non-penetrating roof mounts, roof grids, etc Ryan Carney AirInfinite 404.601.1400 office 404.475.8537 cell -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: Re[2]: [WISPA] Gas Prices
Yeah, gas prices suck. But then again, we pay more than that per gallon for Coca Cola today, or GatorAid which is 99.9% water. I could survive without either of those beverages, but I don't think I'd survive walking to Service calls. Funny the value people put on the dollar and the choices we make. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Barry at Mutual Data" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:45 AM Subject: Re[2]: [WISPA] Gas Prices Hello George, We raised ours to $150 ( was 125) early summer when gas hit 2.50 a gallon. No one peeped. We also switched from running our bucket truck to a pickup with ladder racks. Sucks when you do an install and the bucket would really work. We got Verizon falling all over themselves giving away DSL here too. That forced us to look at marketing/selling to people in the country though. I'm not price warring with them. We also are firming up our "pay if not our equipment" service calls. Was letting that slide too much and the infected crap people run is not worth doing it for free. We are looking into "alternative" technologies to power our trucks also. Barry Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 7:27:57 PM, you wrote: G> Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Is anyone bumping up their install or monthly fees to offset high gas prices? Gas went up over 60 cents this week. G> If you can get away with it. G> But I don't think Qwest or Charter are raising there rates because of gas. G> I think this is just the cost of doing business and in this business G> with fixed install prices, we are squeezed. G> I was thinkin off buying a better gas mileage vehicle, now I'm really G> considering it. G> George -- Best regards, Barrymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12/75 - Release Date: 8/17/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] DSS Ubolts
Does anybody know where to find ubolt kits to attach the DSS style mounts to non-penetrating roof mounts, roof grids, etc… Ryan Carney AirInfinite 404.601.1400 office 404.475.8537 cell -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re[2]: [WISPA] Gas Prices
Hello George, We raised ours to $150 ( was 125) early summer when gas hit 2.50 a gallon. No one peeped. We also switched from running our bucket truck to a pickup with ladder racks. Sucks when you do an install and the bucket would really work. We got Verizon falling all over themselves giving away DSL here too. That forced us to look at marketing/selling to people in the country though. I'm not price warring with them. We also are firming up our "pay if not our equipment" service calls. Was letting that slide too much and the infected crap people run is not worth doing it for free. We are looking into "alternative" technologies to power our trucks also. Barry Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 7:27:57 PM, you wrote: G> Brian Rohrbacher wrote: >> Is anyone bumping up their install or monthly fees to offset high gas >> prices? Gas went up over 60 cents this week. G> If you can get away with it. G> But I don't think Qwest or Charter are raising there rates because of gas. G> I think this is just the cost of doing business and in this business G> with fixed install prices, we are squeezed. G> I was thinkin off buying a better gas mileage vehicle, now I'm really G> considering it. G> George -- Best regards, Barrymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] RE: [WISP] For those of you having trouble deciding if this is right for you....
In most areas, you can no longer do that. We did it for years, but, to cut competition with their DSL service, Verizon North will no longer allow you to do it SBC in Michigan is the same Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Are you talking about this?? http://www.odessaoffice.com/sdsl.htm Paul Hendry wrote: If you get a dry pair from your office to a customer site via the local exchange is there any reason you couldn't use ADSL2+ or VDSL equipment on a dry pair? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: 17 August 2005 17:30 To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISP] For those of you having trouble deciding if this is right for you I'd been begged for months to put together a story on how I got into the wisp business. We're waiting for hardware to come in so I've finally had the play time to get it written up. I hope that this helps some of you either get going or quit wasting time: http://cbdd.typepad.com/rural/ laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam *** Take advantage of PART-15.ORG's Summer Membership Drive and SAVE $$$ http://www.part-15.org/membership/drive.htm *** Register your services in our FREE WISP Locator http://www.part-15.org/maps/WISPSearch.asp *** The PART-15.ORG WISP Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe wisp To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe wisp) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RE: [WISP] For those of you having trouble deciding if this is right for you....
Are you talking about this?? http://www.odessaoffice.com/sdsl.htm Paul Hendry wrote: If you get a dry pair from your office to a customer site via the local exchange is there any reason you couldn't use ADSL2+ or VDSL equipment on a dry pair? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: 17 August 2005 17:30 To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISP] For those of you having trouble deciding if this is right for you I'd been begged for months to put together a story on how I got into the wisp business. We're waiting for hardware to come in so I've finally had the play time to get it written up. I hope that this helps some of you either get going or quit wasting time: http://cbdd.typepad.com/rural/ laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam *** Take advantage of PART-15.ORG's Summer Membership Drive and SAVE $$$ http://www.part-15.org/membership/drive.htm *** Register your services in our FREE WISP Locator http://www.part-15.org/maps/WISPSearch.asp *** The PART-15.ORG WISP Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe wisp To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe wisp) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] RE: [WISP] For those of you having trouble deciding if this is right for you....
If you get a dry pair from your office to a customer site via the local exchange is there any reason you couldn't use ADSL2+ or VDSL equipment on a dry pair? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: 17 August 2005 17:30 To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISP] For those of you having trouble deciding if this is right for you I'd been begged for months to put together a story on how I got into the wisp business. We're waiting for hardware to come in so I've finally had the play time to get it written up. I hope that this helps some of you either get going or quit wasting time: http://cbdd.typepad.com/rural/ laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam *** Take advantage of PART-15.ORG's Summer Membership Drive and SAVE $$$ http://www.part-15.org/membership/drive.htm *** Register your services in our FREE WISP Locator http://www.part-15.org/maps/WISPSearch.asp *** The PART-15.ORG WISP Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe wisp To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe wisp) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: 15/08/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12/75 - Release Date: 17/08/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Lanyard and positioning straps (last chance tosave mylife)
:-) Glad you enjoyed it. Yes, add a blindfold, take a swig of whiskey to keep warm, go alone, leave your cell phone and radio behind, and don't check the guywires, see how far you can sway the tower at the top, and bring a parachute.. :-) oh yea.. :-) Unlike my alter ego in the mock note I wrote, I'm always super careful on climbing. It requires extensive planning, teamwork, double safety procedures, vigilence about weather. We were on Sunlight Peak in June and a freak storm hit - within 15 minutes of getting off the tower - ice pellets, rain, lightning. We were a few hundred yards from the last tower on the Peak - just 10 minutes before all hell broke loose. In the Rockies, storms can appear without much warning - so you depend on your ground personnel to keep an eye out. We use weather radar on notebook pc's tied into the net, to supplement pre-planning reviews. Everything makes a difference, from hair cut, to clothes, boots, to safety equipment, glasses to organizational items. I use a small backpack with clips, organized so it can be attached nearby and serve as a small tool bag, hardware spare parts kit, walkie talkie holder, all at about 5 lbs. I do take duplicate tools, all the standard bolt/nut sizes we have on the tower (3 wrenches) and spares, along with 2 small adjustable wrenches. Just having a climbing bag outfitted properly is crucial, as far as I'm concerned. To someone who hasn't been up there it may seem trivial. I want every second to count, every movement to be preconsidered, everything I need in its proper place, and within easy reach. Years ago, I realized having to make a second trip because someone pulled vinyl tape out of the kit or splicing tape, or a 5/16ths speed wrench doesn't cut it. While I prep each trip, I'm thinking we'll have a 'hands-off' pack with duplicate equipment for the climb. Using a hauling rope to bring up a new bag with missing tools is dangerous, unpleasent, and unnessary. Take a course, work with experienced people, don't hold out for cheaper gear, clip in often, rest, relax, focus, tell your pals to shut up while you are climbing, clip in, rest before you go, as some one said - bring water, dehydration is real at altitude - if you have a feeling about not climbing *don't*, trust your skeptical instinct. If you don't have the experience, don't climb. If you want to practice, go up 4 feet off the ground and do everything you plan on doing 100 feet up. You fall from 4 feet up, you are going to hurt, but you'll like be alive. Get to know all your gear within a few feet of the ground - practice using your backup ropes, gear, repell from a low height. Always have a backup. And finally, don't listen to me. I'm not an instructor, and I'm not getting paid to write this. I do care about any of you that are climbing. It is dangerous - but fun, and exhilerating - if done properly. :-) Take the course, be careful. Stay alive. George wrote: :) Alex You forgot to mention the blindfold. Too funny. :) Glad wisps have a cents of humor George A. Huppenthal wrote: First thing I do is get some leather soled, slip on shoes. I walk through the mud and hop on the tower. I take an extra jacket that I tie off to my waist and, if my legs get tired, re-tie it to the tower leg and around me. Normally, the backpack I have on is filled with tools - I bring everything, power drill, bits, wratchet set - its heavy and bulky, but better than having to return to the ground. I usally wear just one glove, that way if the ice on the tower is bothering my bare hand I can just hold on with the gloved hand. I find it challanging when the wind is blowing just before an electrical storm to get to the highest part of the tower before I hear the thunder. I'll count down 1.2.3.4.5 after the flash, and if I can get to 3, I know I'm safe. Sometimes my loose jacket will snag on an antenna on the way up and hold me up for a few seconds but I can swing around holding on with one hand. I never climb with a rope. If I do drag a rope up with me, I make sure its a nylon one - light and with no give. I'll weave it through the tower as I go up, and keep the end of it wrapped up on one hand - usually the bare one. Once I'm up above 100 feet, I'll lock an arm around the tower and put much shoe into a cross member to get relaxed. Sometimes the blood cuts off in my arm and I can't feel anything in that arm, but I know I'm safe. Often when I'm pulling up a 150 lbs of extra stuff on a '25 tower, it tends to band into other antennas and get stuck, but if you pull really hard, you can normally get it loose. And if you do any of this stuff, don't call yourself a professional, or complain if you are dead in a day of climbing. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/