RE: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer
Hi Chuck, Never had to purchase a spectrum analyzer before but as we are now getting to the stage where one would come in handy I'm just beginning to look into what's available. I've noticed the HP 8569A specs say it only goes up to 1.5GHz? How do you use this with 2.4GHz and 5.8GHz? Is it the norm to get some form of converter? Paul Hendry Skyline Networks http://www.skyline-networks.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Sent: 10 May 2006 00:32 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer I have a HP 8569A Spectrum Analyzer with Manual...for sale if you would like2500 I bought it from Built...works fine Chuck Moses HIGH DESERT WIRELESS BROADBAND COMMUNICATION 16922 Airport Blvd # 3 Mojave CA 93501 661 824 3431 office 818 406 6818 cell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 4:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer Same cost? You did notice that the Avcom unit is $3k? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Jon Langeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer Like $6k and $12K off the top of my head... -Jon Paul Hendry wrote: Interesting. How much do these go for? Paul Hendry Skyline Networks http://www.skyline-networks.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler Sent: 09 May 2006 19:45 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer Those still look pretty old-school. Have you used the handhelds from RS, the FSH 3GHz and 6GHz series or the handheld Anritsu(s). Same cost or less to rent/buy and no upconverters required... Jon Langeler Michwave Tech. Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Sorry about that. I got the brand wrong. It's Avcom. http://www.electro-comm.com/Downloads/ecommwireless.pdf Page 31. You probably want the one with ethernet. Then you can set one up and remotely access it via laptop. (Useful for things like Scriv is fighting with right now) You'll need the frequency converters for your 5.8 gig band checks. These are really really cool units. Wish I had one of them instead of my Advantest big kid one. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: rabbtux rabbtux [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer Marlon, Could you post a URL? what price range is the equipment? Thanks - marshall On 5/8/06, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EC carries a nice little unit from Anritsu (sp?). Portable, battery operated, easy to use. You'll need a converter to get the 2.4 gig version to work for 5.8 gig but that's not a big deal. Perfect for a wisp. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Jory Privett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 12:00 AM Subject: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer Can someone recommend a fairly simple spectrum analyzer that will do 2.4 and 5.8. I need something that is portable and not to complicated to use. Jory Privett WCCS -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
RE: [WISPA] I need a cheap watchdog/reboot thingy
http://www.42u.com/dataprobe_iboot_remote_reboot.htm Around $250 and worth every penny. It'll do exactly what you want. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] I need a cheap watchdog/reboot thingy HI, We have used many of these, but they aren't sub-$100... http://www.digital-loggers.com/EPC.html Travis Microserv J. Vogel wrote: I seem to recall that someone posted a link to a sub-$100 ping watchdog/reboot unit on one of these lists recently, but I cannot locate the message I am thinking I saw. I need a simple device to power-cycle an access point radio or two when pings to the network default gateway fail. Can anybody point me to such a thing? Thanks! John Vogel -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] gas prices
I don't believe the gas prices will come back down to below 2.00 any time soon. So we're shopping for new high gas mileage vehicles. George Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, Just got our $700 gas bill for last month. That's just MY driving. No employees. And I don't even drive an suv! I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge. Kinda like what the concrete company did to me last year at this time. What are people that have large spread out networks doing? If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal. But if it kicks into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us) this summer is gonna be ugly. thoughts? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] gas prices
I thought of that too. But if I get an extra 5, even 10 mpg it still won't make up for the payment on the rig. I love these uses Taurus wagons. I've had two of them go 230,000 miles now with nothing major. Oh yeah, one got an engine at 220,000 or so but that was my fault for running it low on oil. Pick them up used with 75,000 to 100,000 all day long. Usually for less than $8k too. Cheap insurance, decent mileage, easy to get the ladder on etc. My only problem now is that I have too many towers up in the sticks and can't get to them without whacking the bottom of the car all of the time on the rocks. (I DO know that changing an oil pan in one runs $500!) I'm gonna have to find an suv for my next rig. Probably a Cherokee or Durango. Not sure yet. I want a QUIET rig this time. That's the worst thing about the Taurus around here. The roads are rough and the car is awful. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices I don't believe the gas prices will come back down to below 2.00 any time soon. So we're shopping for new high gas mileage vehicles. George Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, Just got our $700 gas bill for last month. That's just MY driving. No employees. And I don't even drive an suv! I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge. Kinda like what the concrete company did to me last year at this time. What are people that have large spread out networks doing? If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal. But if it kicks into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us) this summer is gonna be ugly. thoughts? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] International Links
Can anyone point me to info on the legalities of doing an international PTP link? Specifically from US to Mexico. Thanks, -Richard M. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Weird problem - 20 seconds latency and other oddness
Except it's not effecting the ap's further out. Even if they were on a different segment they should still pick up the interference from the ap's right? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Weird problem - 20 seconds latency and other oddness I agree it could be noise but a bridge runaway will give you the 10+ second pings and with that much traffic being echoed ALL of your AP and Clients are spewing. It would look like a massive RF flood on the Spectrum Analyzer. Think about what the air wave look like when you have full radio usage. To nearby units and competitors it would be a massive increase in the noise floor. Lonnie On 5/9/06, David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: Any confirmation on this? A customer router plugged in with LAN to the WAN or not getting a DHCP entry or even a DNS entry has caused many bridges to collapse and appear as if it is noise, simply because the bridges are all echoing the massive broadcast traffic. There's no DHCP anywhere on the network, and the DHCP UDP ports are filtered out at every POP, so that specifically is a bad example. :) Sorry for not getting back to this, we've had massive weirdness on our dialup gear too (mostly related to moving it). Yes, our network is part bridged/part routed. I'm pretty sure it's a real RF problem, because we pulled out the Bumblebee and my field guy said he saw crazy mad noise all across the 2.4 spectrum a couple days ago, when we were having this weird hiccup. (And another local WISP operator reportedly has had similar issues, though I didn't talk to him personally; that's the boss' department.) We'll probably just have to use some old-school triangulation and such to find out where it is, if it's something we even can find. For instance, today was a cool and cloudy day, and this problem didn't show up all day. Thus, I blame sunspots. :D (Honestly, I'm stumped, but at least we're now reasonably certain it's a real RF issue.) If/when we sort it out, I'll report back. David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] gas prices
Well, lets see. Put the ladder on top of the Taurus and mileage drops to about 20. We're a sole proprietor so all of the gas runs under the same bill. I filled the boat up once. Melissa drives a Suburban to work (4 miles or so) and we usually take that on out of town trips (much safer than the car) and I did fill up two Jerry cans for the dirt bikes. So there's probably $200 to $250 that's not from my work. Our gas prices here in town are usually $.20 or more above what the national average is, and sometimes that much more than many of the towns around us too. I'm half tempted to get a gas only credit card and start getting gas at whatever cheap town I'm in today. But yeah, I put in over 30,000 miles per year just for work related driving. Not counting the times I use the suburban, we don't write off the mileage on it. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices Marlon, Are you really driving THAT much? I have 5 full-time installers (each in their own vehicle) and our network covers 200 miles N-S and 150 E-W and our gas bill was only $2,200 this last month. We did 104 installs. :) Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, Just got our $700 gas bill for last month. That's just MY driving. No employees. And I don't even drive an suv! I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge. Kinda like what the concrete company did to me last year at this time. What are people that have large spread out networks doing? If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal. But if it kicks into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us) this summer is gonna be ugly. thoughts? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 4.9 space
- Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4.9 space Bump... Bump On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Butch Evans wrote: On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: However, no public traffic can run over the network. You can use a public network to feed a 4.9 system that you manage for the license holder. You can NOT use 4.9 to transport public traffic though. Don't take this like I don't believe what you are saying...This is just a question. Grin. Trango is offering a new mesh solution that they call HD Mesh. From what I understand, it is targeted for muni-wireless deployment. It uses 2.4GHz AP and 4.9GHz backhaul. If what you say is correct, is this system then limited to be used ONLY by the municipality and no other end users may connect to it? That's my understanding, yes. Wonderful idea those guys at Trango had eh? Sheesh. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting http://www.butchevans.com/ Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] International Links
Don't ask, don't tell! hehehehehe Jaime? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Richard Munoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 9:12 AM Subject: [WISPA] International Links Can anyone point me to info on the legalities of doing an international PTP link? Specifically from US to Mexico. Thanks, -Richard M. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 48port switch w/ 802.11q
Is there a beast for under $500? I know trendnet makes some *stuff* but it is port based vlaning Dan Metcalf Wireless Broadband Systems www.wbisp.com 781-566-2053 ext 6201 1-888-wbsystem (888) 927-9783 [EMAIL PROTECTED] support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/335 - Release Date: 05/09/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] International Links
Thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Jaime Solorza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] International Links AFAIK- It is still illegal to shoot unlicensed bands across the US-Mexico border! That being said, everyone does it! In some Mexican border towns, they get around it by greasing the local Perito..(SCT rep- like an FCC agent) hand to give them a permit. I heard of group in Monterrey that supposdely set up clients as HAM radio operators experimenting with 2.4GHz.. I do not if that is true but it is moot since unlicensed is allowed in Mexico with almost the same rules as US. I recommend a good spectral analysis before they deploy. Most border areas are noisy!!! Hasta Laters, Jaime - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: Jaime Solorza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] International Links Don't ask, don't tell! hehehehehe Jaime? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Richard Munoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 9:12 AM Subject: [WISPA] International Links Can anyone point me to info on the legalities of doing an international PTP link? Specifically from US to Mexico. Thanks, -Richard M. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Anyone offer service here?
2547 NW Inverness Dr Hillsoboro, OR 97124 If you do, I'll forward your information to the customer. Thanks Mark North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 48port switch w/ 802.11q
Dell PowerConnect -Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a beast for under $500? I know trendnet makes some *stuff* but it is port based vlaning Dan Metcalf Wireless Broadband Systems www.wbisp.com 781-566-2053 ext 6201 1-888-wbsystem (888) 927-9783 [EMAIL PROTECTED] support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 4.9 space
That wouldn't be correct- because the 2.4 access and 4.9 distribution layers are 2 different things. So essentially the distribution layer would only be legal for the muni to connect to ( the 4.9 layer ) - Jeff On 5/10/06 12:30 AM, Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bump... On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Butch Evans wrote: On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: However, no public traffic can run over the network. You can use a public network to feed a 4.9 system that you manage for the license holder. You can NOT use 4.9 to transport public traffic though. Don't take this like I don't believe what you are saying...This is just a question. Trango is offering a new mesh solution that they call HD Mesh. From what I understand, it is targeted for muni-wireless deployment. It uses 2.4GHz AP and 4.9GHz backhaul. If what you say is correct, is this system then limited to be used ONLY by the municipality and no other end users may connect to it? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer
Paul Hendry wrote: Hi Chuck, Never had to purchase a spectrum analyzer before but as we are now getting to the stage where one would come in handy I'm just beginning to look into what's available. I've noticed the HP 8569A specs say it only goes up to 1.5GHz? How do you use this with 2.4GHz and 5.8GHz? Is it the norm to get some form of converter? If I remember correctly from my SA repair and sales days, only the extremely old HP 8569A's went to 1.5Ghz. You can get external mixers to go up 40Ghz, but hardly relevant to WISP's. After a certain revision(which you can hardly find the older ones) included an internal mixer to go to about 1.5Ghz. Jeremy -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] gas prices
You run your business as a sole proprietor? That means you have no asset protection - and you can only take advantage of about 25% of the tax code. S Corp or LLC allows you both asset protection and tax breaks. Marlon, spend the $1000 to have a corporate attorney get you incorporated and get your assets allocated correctly. One lawsuit and you lose everything - personal and business. Regards, Peter Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We're a sole proprietor so all of the gas runs under the same bill. I filled the boat up once. Melissa drives a Suburban to work (4 miles or so) and we usually take that on out of town trips (much safer than the car) and I did fill up two Jerry cans for the dirt bikes. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] gas prices
yeah, amen to that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 2:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices You run your business as a sole proprietor? That means you have no asset protection - and you can only take advantage of about 25% of the tax code. S Corp or LLC allows you both asset protection and tax breaks. Marlon, spend the $1000 to have a corporate attorney get you incorporated and get your assets allocated correctly. One lawsuit and you lose everything - personal and business. Regards, Peter Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We're a sole proprietor so all of the gas runs under the same bill. I filled the boat up once. Melissa drives a Suburban to work (4 miles or so) and we usually take that on out of town trips (much safer than the car) and I did fill up two Jerry cans for the dirt bikes. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Re: [equipment-l] Roaming with VPN, any ideas?
On Wed, 10 May 2006, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: The only solution I could come up with for this scenario was to implement some kind of combination of RoadWarrior/OpenVPN with an IPCop firewall at the main law enforcement center. They are currently using OpenVPN, but it is setup I'm not familiar with these solutions specifically, but don't they support dynamic clients? If not, then you can look at Mikrotik for the server side, as it does support dynamic policies. Alternatively, you could use L2TP, which will allow for the dynamic roaming IPs. Also, you may look into pppoe and ospf. ;-) -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting http://www.butchevans.com/ Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Weird problem - 20 seconds latency and other oddness
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Except it's not effecting the ap's further out. Even if they were on a different segment they should still pick up the interference from the ap's right? Basically, yeah. I think. :) (Good thing I never claimed to know much about RF, innit.) A different picture, so to speak, at http://thedave.us/pics/mvn/wispamap2.gif, which includes some of the relevant bits of the network's physical design. If it were a problem with, say, one of my Trango backhaul links, why does it only affect one of the two SUs on Trango AP1? And why does it affect customers on the far end of my licensed 39GHz link? For that matter, note the two overlapping dots. (Green is good towers, red is bad, and the one yellow dot on the left is a tower that we've seen a couple issues with at the same time, but not nearly as bad. Note: not to scale, and please don't make fun of me just because I can't draw straight lines with MS Paint.) The points with overlapping dots show where there are two 2.4GHz APs on the same water tower - the ones facing north are having issues, the ones facing south rarely do. And when the south-facing antennas' customers are having problems, the noise levels and network latency are at their worst (a couple days ago I saw one ping packet that took almost thirty seconds to complete a round-trip, a new record). The backhaul links appear to be solid, because all the while, I can ping the APs themselves, and the managed switches at the key tower locations, with the expected 2-3ms latency and zero packet loss. David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Looking for SR5-80211A SUPERRANGE 5 MINIPCI RADIO
Title: Message Roger Peters - 210-601-7727 I believe someone mentioned Jim Patient was carrying them also - www.jeffcosoho.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff LeboeufSent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 3:54 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: [WISPA] Looking for SR5-80211A SUPERRANGE 5 MINIPCI RADIO I am in need of the following. Anyone out there care to help? :) Qty 2 - SR5-80211A SUPERRANGE 5 MINIPCI RADIO Please contact me off-list. Thanks, Cliff -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I need a cheap watchdog/reboot thingy
Rick Smith wrote: http://www.42u.com/dataprobe_iboot_remote_reboot.htm Around $250 and worth every penny. It'll do exactly what you want. Ive worked with these before. They are nice and you can easily write programs to do the reboot functionality. Jeremy -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for SR5-80211A SUPERRANGE 5 MINIPCI RADIO
Defacto Wireless has them in stock as of 2pm www.defactowireless.com Cliff Leboeuf wrote: I am in need of the following. Anyone out there care to help? :) Qty 2 - SR5-80211A SUPERRANGE 5 MINIPCI RADIO Please contact me off-list. Thanks, Cliff -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] GAO Questions FCC Broadband Numbers
GAO Questions FCC Broadband Numbers By Mark Rockwell May 10, 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIRECT WASHINGTON-Although 30 million American households have adopted broadband services, FCC data that tracks broadband availability in the country has some weaknesses and should be augmented, according to a new government study. A 70-page study released by the General Accounting Office (GAO) early this month says the FCC's data on broadband availability in the United States may be a little misleading. The GAO study says that only 28 percent of Americans had broadband connections last year, which is at odds with the FCC's conclusion that 99 percent of Americans live in areas where they can access at least one broadband provider. The disparity in availability is due, in part, to the way the commission counts subscribers, the GAO says. The FCC, using ZIP code data, collects data based on where subscribers are served, not where providers have deployed broadband infrastructure, the study says. Although it is clear that the deployment of broadband networks is extensive, the data may not provide a highly accurate depiction of local deployment of broadband infrastructures for residential service, especially in rural areas. The GAO, which doesn't have direct oversight power over the FCC, recommends the FCC develop studies to measure the costs and issues involved with various options that could widen the distribution of broadband service in the United States and report back to Senate and House committees. Currently, both houses of Congress are looking at draft bills that would overhaul the Telecommunications Act of 1996 and hammering out details on issues such as broadband distribution strategies. Industry observers familiar with the efforts say Congress could have a workable bill put together by summer. --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Netgear Wall Plugged Ethernet
http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE104.php http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE102.php http://www.netgear.com/media/powerline.wmv I just did a wireless install and need to hook up another building on the property. Distance is 6-700 feet. I can't find a distance spec on these netgear bpl devices. Any thoughts? Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Netgear Wall Plugged Ethernet
Do yourself a favor - Install 2 CB3s and bridge the 2 locations. I've run into tons of headaches trying to use these devices. I'd doubt you'd even need external antennas. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:02 PM To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization Subject: [WISPA] Netgear Wall Plugged Ethernet http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE104.php http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE102.php http://www.netgear.com/media/powerline.wmv I just did a wireless install and need to hook up another building on the property. Distance is 6-700 feet. I can't find a distance spec on these netgear bpl devices. Any thoughts? Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netgear Wall Plugged Ethernet
Brian, I haven't used Netgear but I used another brand (can't recall which one) about 6 months ago and they were good for about 300 ft. Of course, you have to be on the same electrical circuit. Dunno if your two buildings are on the same side of the same electrical box or not. Good luck, jack Brian Rohrbacher wrote: http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE104.php http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE102.php http://www.netgear.com/media/powerline.wmv I just did a wireless install and need to hook up another building on the property. Distance is 6-700 feet. I can't find a distance spec on these netgear bpl devices. Any thoughts? Brian -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs True Vendor-Neutral WISP Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting [EMAIL PROTECTED] (818) 227-4220 http://www.ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netgear Wall Plugged Ethernet
There is disconnected wire in the ground between the buildings that I could wire up however I need, but not if they only go 300 feet. Jack Unger wrote: Brian, I haven't used Netgear but I used another brand (can't recall which one) about 6 months ago and they were good for about 300 ft. Of course, you have to be on the same electrical circuit. Dunno if your two buildings are on the same side of the same electrical box or not. Good luck, jack Brian Rohrbacher wrote: http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE104.php http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE102.php http://www.netgear.com/media/powerline.wmv I just did a wireless install and need to hook up another building on the property. Distance is 6-700 feet. I can't find a distance spec on these netgear bpl devices. Any thoughts? Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netgear Wall Plugged Ethernet
Brian R. I agree with the other two posts by Jack and JohnnyO. They are nifty devices. I use the FD4070 Belkins (think that's the model). But, I don't really think using these in commercial applications is a good idea. I have had problems with having to reset both devices (primarily on the uplink end). If you're not there to reset (unplug/plug) them, it is a huge pain. Saves $ but makes you look bad. Plus, the links are generally only a meg or two with marginal links (maybe less). I tried to use them at home, to share internet with my neighbor, and had issues about once a week, requiring a reset. I'm in a tri-plex and there is one unit between us. Link quality depended on what jack I used. The best link was about 3.5Mbps (per the SNMP tool). You probably can do more with the unused wire you mentioned. But, how much irritation/distrust will it incur when you have to walk the customer through these issues over the phone. Good thing is, it's easy to explain how to unplug and plug the device in over the phone. :-) Still, they're best as cheap solutions for homes and tight-fisted lawyers. Luck, Brian W Brian Rohrbacher wrote: There is disconnected wire in the ground between the buildings that I could wire up however I need, but not if they only go 300 feet. Jack Unger wrote: Brian, I haven't used Netgear but I used another brand (can't recall which one) about 6 months ago and they were good for about 300 ft. Of course, you have to be on the same electrical circuit. Dunno if your two buildings are on the same side of the same electrical box or not. Good luck, jack Brian Rohrbacher wrote: http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE104.php http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE102.php http://www.netgear.com/media/powerline.wmv I just did a wireless install and need to hook up another building on the property. Distance is 6-700 feet. I can't find a distance spec on these netgear bpl devices. Any thoughts? Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Looking for SR5-80211A SUPERRANGE 5 MINIPCI RADIO
Have you considered the EMP-8602 instead? Cheaper, newer chipset and supports a, b and g (100mW, 400mW and 400mW). Not used them myself but have heard good things from people who have. Paul Hendry Skyline Networks http://www.skyline-networks.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: 10 May 2006 23:46 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for SR5-80211A SUPERRANGE 5 MINIPCI RADIO Defacto Wireless has them in stock as of 2pm www.defactowireless.com Cliff Leboeuf wrote: I am in need of the following. Anyone out there care to help? :) Qty 2 - SR5-80211A SUPERRANGE 5 MINIPCI RADIO Please contact me off-list. Thanks, Cliff -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/335 - Release Date: 09/05/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/336 - Release Date: 10/05/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
