RE: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock
Cliff, You, Johnny and Joe will have to travel North (nasty word) of I-10 to get here whereas the whole rest of the world will be traveling South. You know that Y'all are all special :-) Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock Mac, I would be interested in attending... How do I get DOWN to Louisiana from where I live? (duh) :) On 7/12/06 6:18 PM, Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are trying to get a Wireless Woodstock reunion out here for Labor Day. It is wide open for anyone to come out, sit down, eat, drink and just enjoy. Bring your fishing pole...etc All of you ought to try to make down here to Louisiana!! Mac Dearman -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock
Heck, You know us down here, we are always game for a party. Looking forward to it. Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:13 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock Cliff, You, Johnny and Joe will have to travel North (nasty word) of I-10 to get here whereas the whole rest of the world will be traveling South. You know that Y'all are all special :-) Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock Mac, I would be interested in attending... How do I get DOWN to Louisiana from where I live? (duh) :) On 7/12/06 6:18 PM, Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are trying to get a Wireless Woodstock reunion out here for Labor Day. It is wide open for anyone to come out, sit down, eat, drink and just enjoy. Bring your fishing pole...etc All of you ought to try to make down here to Louisiana!! Mac Dearman -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock
Very Good!! We are gonna have a blowout. I am looking for a live band - - I wonder what Scriv is doing? - - hey Scriv! Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Laura Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock Heck, You know us down here, we are always game for a party. Looking forward to it. Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:13 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock Cliff, You, Johnny and Joe will have to travel North (nasty word) of I-10 to get here whereas the whole rest of the world will be traveling South. You know that Y'all are all special :-) Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock Mac, I would be interested in attending... How do I get DOWN to Louisiana from where I live? (duh) :) On 7/12/06 6:18 PM, Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are trying to get a Wireless Woodstock reunion out here for Labor Day. It is wide open for anyone to come out, sit down, eat, drink and just enjoy. Bring your fishing pole...etc All of you ought to try to make down here to Louisiana!! Mac Dearman -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Message from Alex Huppenthal
For some reason Alex is having trouble posting to the WISPA General List so here is what he was trying to send: Alex wrote, I aon't write for this list any longer, but thought I'd drop in some thoughts that may be useful to you. Perhaps useful to those of you who are just getting into being and ISP. I'd like to know what the list members think of http://www.freepress.net/content/about Freepress.net have a site that can fire off an email to your Rep or Senator. You select the topic of concern, click a couple of buttons and off goes a canned letter to your Representative or Congress-person. Several questions come to mind which I’d like you to answer. First, are the issues on FreePress.net of concern to the Wireless list membership? I see at least 2 I’m personally doing something about. The Telcom Act and Net Neutrality. If Net Neutrality means keeping the number and types of Web sites high, then I’m all for it. Is there a good reason to limit or block any site? Is the Internet supposed to be governed by Free Speech. If you can’t get your message to the world because backbone carriers decided that your message will be queued behind theirs and there are 3 main carriers (as there are telcos and energy companies), is this a matter of free speech? IMHO, the Internet should remain open, unfettered by legislation so long as there remains a competitive, open environment at all levels. I'm not sure it can be legislated, but certainly congress can adopt a position on the subject, and the FCC can establish guidelines. If you decide you want to keep a level playing field what does that mean? Backbone providers are working hard to exclude competition, so goes the take-back of DSL circuits, the rising prices of T1 and other Telco/Backbone/DSL/webhosting/Conglomerate ‘assets’. Consolidation makes money for investors. It doesn’t create incentive for innovation. So there’s my nutshell for Net Neutrality. Allow consolidation, which in turn creates lower competition, which defuses innovation, which reduces arguments for more spectrum which reduces competition, and then apply new tiered prices for video, audio, text, images, hosting, VoIP, and other innovations, which raises revenues for new massive Telco/Cable monopolies, which puts capital - read power - back into the hands of the companies who in general languished for 50 years in the monopolies, content to tell you that your Central Office was going to get Voice Mail, Call forward or anything other than dial tone, in 8-12 years, if you are lucky, and don’t make them ‘mad’. We all need to excite investors. However, innovation is where investment needs to go. I see Net Neutrality as a statement of position in that respect. Is it a matter of Free Speech? Nope, its a matter of Federal Trade Commission snoozing on the job. Its a statement that Podcasting, Videocasting, Screencasting, VoIP, and other innovative applications need to be treated without taxation or burdens of higher fees in tiered pricing. There is currently a model for bandwidth usage that accounts for this variance in load, and its been in use for over 8 years. For any of you that were a part of the pre Commercial Internet - roughly prior to 1992. You know that there were guidelines and rules about how the Internet could be used. These rules were enforced by the regional network you were going to connect to. You applied to the regional network for access. In Texas we'd have to get a connection from a local University. As it was I connected via UUCP to a friendly Admin at ATT and registered comsys.com as my domain in 1986. I provided email and news exchanges through an SCO Unix box and a couple of slow speed modems. In those days, peering was something done with dial-up connections and discussions with others - specifically the Dallas Lunch Bunch. It appears to me today, the Terms of Service / Use that any ISP offers, from ourselves (Aspenworks is a small regional ISP) to Earthlink or AOL. The terms of service are now up to the ISP. You can as an ISP declare you are not allowing any ports other than 80 21 25 maybe a couple others, and that your service provides a maximum of 250K bits on FTP. You can declare whatever you like. That's net neutrality. No regulation works and free market rules, with *one* condition. That condition is that small operators, small media producers, small server operators are treated on a level playing field. Net Neutrality works when the FTC is doing its job. Just like innovation works when free enterprise is allowed to flourish in a healthy competitive environment. You can apply whatever billing rule you want, so long as there is true competition. Then you have choices which likely include the price model you want. My opinion is that the Internet is at risk from consolidation. In energy and telco telcom, is allowed to take place totally unbridled. The result is higher
[WISPA] New FCC Form 477 is up
I remember what a bleepstorm this was a few months back, so I'm afraid to say it, but what the heck. The new FCC Form 477, due on September 1st for the first half of this year, is now available at the usual place ( http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html ) Remember that, as of the March 2006 filing, all broadband ISPs, even those with less than 250 customers, are required to file Form 477. David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900 radio
EC also carries Tranzeo gear. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900 radio Contact WAV for pricing on Tranzeo 900 802.11g. My Rep. in Canada is Claudio Ricci. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Butch Evans wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Blair Davis wrote: Hoppers don't play nice with Direct Sequence Spread Spectrum. On the other hand, hoppers can get through more noise While this is almost accurate, it is not exacly right. FHSS can cause serious problems for a DSSS system, as the hopper runs across the band. HOWEVER, DSSS will trash about 30% of that spectrum for the hopper. (At least that is the approximate ratio for the 2.4GHz range.) Having said that, FHSS in 900 DOES make a lot of sense, so long as you have the ability to choose where it hops. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900 radio
I have a link that I tested with 2.4. I could get about a -88 signal. It might have worked. Ap is 17 dB with a 13dB 120* sector. CPE was a lucent radio with 24dB grid. That same link is now running Trango wireless. 8 dB integrated antennas and 26dB radio output. We get -75ish with the 900 mhz gear. 900 is cool stuff if there's ANYTHING in the way! laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900 radio I run every email through my BGLASS model fact checker - that takes care of the facts. :^) I haven't installed any yet. I've been waiting for Tranzeo to do 900 this long, and it isn't much longer now. Unfortunately, we have had to un-install five or six customers in the last month because our overzealous installers did some installs that worked in the winter and quit working as soon as the trees got completely leafed in. I'm hoping to get a few of them back with the 900 stuff. I'm with you - I need a break too. Not sure where or when, but we will have to get something figured out! Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What? You mean EVERYTHING on these lists isn't factual? Matt have you installed any 900 yet? Probably not too much need out there where the trees don't grow? Out there in Wireless Paradise! We should get together this fallI'm in need of a break! Later, Rick Harnish President Supernova Technologies, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office [EMAIL PROTECTED] Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900 radio This is not true. The Tranzeo 900mhz radios can use 20, 10 or 5mhz channels. They only use it all up if that is how you configure it. Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blair Davis wrote: I've looked at the specs for these units. They eat the ENTIRE 900MHz band as one channel. Carl A Jeptha wrote: Contact WAV for pricing on Tranzeo 900 802.11g. My Rep. in Canada is Claudio Ricci. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Butch Evans wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Blair Davis wrote: Hoppers don't play nice with Direct Sequence Spread Spectrum. On the other hand, hoppers can get through more noise While this is almost accurate, it is not exacly right. FHSS can cause serious problems for a DSSS system, as the hopper runs across the band. HOWEVER, DSSS will trash about 30% of that spectrum for the hopper. (At least that is the approximate ratio for the 2.4GHz range.) Having said that, FHSS in 900 DOES make a lot of sense, so long as you have the ability to choose where it hops. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] AIM Video issues
Hm. I'll bet it's that sonic wall somehow. Might also have Butch check the firewalling on your mt box. Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Scott Reed To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] AIM Video issues Inline Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:57:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [WISPA] AIM Video issues Hm. What router do you use? Mikrotik for internal, Cisco at the border What firewalling are you doing? SonicWall 2040 - I have it set to log all local traffic that it blocks and there is nothing in the log. What are you using for upstream connectivity? Qwest T-1Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services 42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Scott Reed To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] AIM Video issues Mainly because it is not my call. The setup is being done by a computer consultant. He setup the machine that went to Iraq and the one locally. Now they don't talk. But he can talk to the one in Iraq from his office (not on my network.) So, my concern is that there may be an issue with my network that will impact other customers trying to do video on AIM. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 11:33:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [WISPA] AIM Video issuesI know there is AIM issue, why not try skype, it may be better and the do video also. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Scott Reed wrote: So, does anyone have any idea why MS works and AOL doesn't? I need to know, not just for this customer, but it would seem at this time there is an issue with my network that I should address before it impacts anyone else. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: "Blake Bowers" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 09:30:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [WISPA] AIM Video issues No security issues. There are thousands of Morale computers with internet connections available. Great way to keep in contact with loved ones. - Original Message -From: "Rick Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 9:22 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] AIM Video issues I know the POINT, but the PRACTICE is what I'm questioning. Talk aboutinsecurity. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] OnBehalf Of Scott ReedSent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:01 AMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: RE: [WISPA] AIM Video issues So he can see his kids. Scott ReedOwner NewWaysWireless NetworkingNetwork Design, Installation and Administrationwww.nwwnet.net http://www.nwwnet.net/ -- Original Message ---From: "Rick Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 09:50:58 -0400 Subject: RE: [WISPA] AIM Video issues dunno, but why is AIM on that computer in Iraq !? _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] OnBehalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 9:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] AIM Video issues I have a customer that wants to IM with her husband stationed in Iraq. Working with her computer guy we have found that he and I can do videovia MSMessenger but not AIM. Of couse, MS is not on the
Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?
We use dry copper, wireless, fiber and dsl for backhaul. I've not built my own fiber yet. I'm sure the day is coming though. I really screwed up a few years ago. The town had the sidewalks all out down town. I should have found the money and put some conduit in at that time. I could have ethernet or fiber connections to all of the down town businesses today! sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Mike Delp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:31 AM Subject: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? I am looking to talk with someone that has laid some fiber to complement their wireless operations. We have a couple of leads we are looking at making some short hop backbones between towers, and having the cities get involved as a customer of fiber, and hopefully it will pay for the venture. On or off list replys welcome. Thanks Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?
Marlon, how would you have done the ethernet? I thought you were restricted to basically 300 feet of ethernet without a switch/router/booster every 300 feet or so, or am I missing something? I have pole rights in town a $1/pole/yr so I'm trying to find an affordable use of them. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We use dry copper, wireless, fiber and dsl for backhaul. I've not built my own fiber yet. I'm sure the day is coming though. I really screwed up a few years ago. The town had the sidewalks all out down town. I should have found the money and put some conduit in at that time. I could have ethernet or fiber connections to all of the down town businesses today! sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Mike Delp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:31 AM Subject: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? I am looking to talk with someone that has laid some fiber to complement their wireless operations. We have a couple of leads we are looking at making some short hop backbones between towers, and having the cities get involved as a customer of fiber, and hopefully it will pay for the venture. On or off list replys welcome. Thanks Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] 900 radio
This is true as well. Just one more tradeoff fo FHSS. You should note that this is ~10 dB of receive sensitivty worth of trade-off (IMO -- pretty big) -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 6:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] 900 radio On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Charles Wu wrote: More importantly -- from a cochannel and receiver sensitivity perspective -- FH doesn't get the processing gain benefits of spread spectrum -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links
I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to Point links. I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I have. These new links are shorter with good LOS. I want the reliability of the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles and I need a actual throughput of about 10M I have been looking at the SR5 radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably? I want some real world info here and not just marketing hype. Does anyone have links like this with the SR5? What antenna are you using? How is the performance? Jory Privett WCCS -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New FCC Form 477 is up
it opens for me and the pull downs work with open office 1.9.1 On 7/13/06, Mark Koskenmaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They still haven't learned. If you don't use MS Office, the form can't even be OPENED, open office says it's password protected and read only and exits. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 7:26 AM Subject: [WISPA] New FCC Form 477 is up I remember what a bleepstorm this was a few months back, so I'm afraid to say it, but what the heck. The new FCC Form 477, due on September 1st for the first half of this year, is now available at the usual place ( http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html ) Remember that, as of the March 2006 filing, all broadband ISPs, even those with less than 250 customers, are required to file Form 477. David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links
Jory (et al), Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14 B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong results: 62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles 80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100 comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of street price. Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to Point links. I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I have. These new links are shorter with good LOS. I want the reliability of the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles and I need a actual throughput of about 10M I have been looking at the SR5 radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably? I want some real world info here and not just marketing hype. Does anyone have links like this with the SR5? What antenna are you using? How is the performance? Jory Privett WCCS -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(191). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(42). -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Jumper supplier
I'm lookng for 2 and 3' out door nmale jumpers preferably smaller than lmr400 for 2 gig and 5 gig CAn't seem t find them on te EC or PW sites. Anyone got any other suppliers? Thanks George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links
Hello Patrick, Were the 62 80Mbps results using a 20MHz channel or a 40MHz channel? Regardless those are nice numbers. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:00 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links Jory (et al), Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14 B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong results: 62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles 80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100 comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of street price. Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to Point links. I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I have. These new links are shorter with good LOS. I want the reliability of the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles and I need a actual throughput of about 10M I have been looking at the SR5 radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably? I want some real world info here and not just marketing hype. Does anyone have links like this with the SR5? What antenna are you using? How is the performance? Jory Privett WCCS -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(191). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(42). -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Jumper supplier
http://jeffcosoho.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=12products_id=145051 Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Jumper supplier I'm lookng for 2 and 3' out door nmale jumpers preferably smaller than lmr400 for 2 gig and 5 gig CAn't seem t find them on te EC or PW sites. Anyone got any other suppliers? Thanks George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Jumper supplier
we do custom jumpers with any cable or connector. If you don't want to use LMR400 I would suggest using perhaps LMR240. We'll install whatever connectors you need. Mike Electro-comm George Rogato wrote: I'm lookng for 2 and 3' out door nmale jumpers preferably smaller than lmr400 for 2 gig and 5 gig CAn't seem t find them on te EC or PW sites. Anyone got any other suppliers? Thanks George -- Mike Brownson Electro-comm Distributing 5015 Paris St Denver, CO 80239 www.electro-comm.com (303) 371-8182 x112, (800) 525-0173 Your 24x7 support staff is at www.ShopECBIZ.com Interested in Metro WiFi? We have solutions Coming soon from Tranzeo, 900MHz PtMP -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links
No. We tend to be RF purists (for better or worse) and components that have so wide a frequency range have poorer performance. It is a trade off for sure, but that is why we have not built such a system. As to channelization, it is 40MHz. Our goal was to offer high performance, very high quality, great simplicity, and at a very moderate price. This is not trying to be an Orthogon Spectra and even Redline AN-50 -- WISP already have those options if you have the need and the money. The BreezeNET B series offers a fully featured product with right-sized capacity at very modest cost. The BNET's offer Toyota quality, BMW performance, but at a Chevy price. Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:32 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links Oh, one last thing...can the B100 tune to 5.3GHz as well as 5.8GHz? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links Hello Patrick, Were the 62 80Mbps results using a 20MHz channel or a 40MHz channel? Regardless those are nice numbers. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:00 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links Jory (et al), Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14 B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong results: 62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles 80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100 comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of street price. Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to Point links. I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I have. These new links are shorter with good LOS. I want the reliability of the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles and I need a actual throughput of about 10M I have been looking at the SR5 radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably? I want some real world info here and not just marketing hype. Does anyone have links like this with the SR5? What antenna are you using? How is the performance? Jory Privett WCCS -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(191). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(42). -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(192). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(42). -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links
Huh??? RF purist with a 40 mhz wide channel isn't that an oxymoron ? jeje Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 3:28 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links No. We tend to be RF purists (for better or worse) and components that have so wide a frequency range have poorer performance. It is a trade off for sure, but that is why we have not built such a system. As to channelization, it is 40MHz. Our goal was to offer high performance, very high quality, great simplicity, and at a very moderate price. This is not trying to be an Orthogon Spectra and even Redline AN-50 -- WISP already have those options if you have the need and the money. The BreezeNET B series offers a fully featured product with right-sized capacity at very modest cost. The BNET's offer Toyota quality, BMW performance, but at a Chevy price. Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:32 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links Oh, one last thing...can the B100 tune to 5.3GHz as well as 5.8GHz? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links Hello Patrick, Were the 62 80Mbps results using a 20MHz channel or a 40MHz channel? Regardless those are nice numbers. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:00 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links Jory (et al), Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14 B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong results: 62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles 80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100 comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of street price. Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to Point links. I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I have. These new links are shorter with good LOS. I want the reliability of the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles and I need a actual throughput of about 10M I have been looking at the SR5 radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably? I want some real world info here and not just marketing hype. Does anyone have links like this with the SR5? What antenna are you using? How is the performance? Jory Privett WCCS -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(191). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(42). -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(192).
Re: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532s
I got one in from them beginning of the week so I think they are in stock, but it has seemed tough getting them to pick up the phone although I usually get a callback within an hour. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Kelly Shaw wrote: Anyone know of a source with RouterBoard 532s in stock? I normally can get them from WispRouter but they won't respond to my phone calls about them... Kelly Shaw Pure Internet www.pure.net http://www.pure.net !DSPAM:16,44b6b027296898992556831! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532s
I liked WISP-ROUTER because they packaged the enclosure, etc with the board. Works really great. I guess that I need to order more than 1 the next time they get them in stock. Their website shows a negative value in stock. Kelly -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Tetherow Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532s I got one in from them beginning of the week so I think they are in stock, but it has seemed tough getting them to pick up the phone although I usually get a callback within an hour. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Kelly Shaw wrote: Anyone know of a source with RouterBoard 532s in stock? I normally can get them from WispRouter but they won't respond to my phone calls about them... Kelly Shaw Pure Internet www.pure.net http://www.pure.net !DSPAM:16,44b6b027296898992556831! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532s
Maybe they pulled them off production due to the NOISE they are blowing all over the 50-450Mhz spectrum. :( Travis Microserv Kelly Shaw wrote: Anyone know of a source with RouterBoard 532s in stock? I normally can get them from WispRouter but they won't respond to my phone calls about them... Kelly Shaw Pure Internet www.pure.net __ NOD32 1.1657 (20060713) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock
Sh!t...If JohnnyO's gonna be there -- count me out! Mac, what are the details: When, where, local crash spots, etc. - Cliff On 7/13/06 8:13 AM, Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cliff, You, Johnny and Joe will have to travel North (nasty word) of I-10 to get here whereas the whole rest of the world will be traveling South. You know that Y'all are all special :-) Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock Mac, I would be interested in attending... How do I get DOWN to Louisiana from where I live? (duh) :) On 7/12/06 6:18 PM, Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are trying to get a Wireless Woodstock reunion out here for Labor Day. It is wide open for anyone to come out, sit down, eat, drink and just enjoy. Bring your fishing pole...etc All of you ought to try to make down here to Louisiana!! Mac Dearman -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532s
Where did you get that info from Travis? Links, sourceetc? Mac Dearman From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 3:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532s Maybe they pulled them off production due to the NOISE they are blowing all over the 50-450Mhz spectrum. :( Travis Microserv Kelly Shaw wrote: Anyone know of a source with RouterBoard 532s in stock? I normally can get them from WispRouter but they won't respond to my phone calls about them... Kelly Shaw Pure Internet www.pure.net __ NOD32 1.1657 (20060713) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532s
Wow... I forgot some people don't watch the same wireless lists... :) This was a big discussion on isp-wireless a few weeks ago. ;) The routerboard 532 is emitting a HIGH level of noise at 50-70Mhz and 140-170Mhz. I am talking 50-60db of "noise" coming off the DC-DC converter on the board. I made this discovery about 3 weeks ago when we shut down the local HAM repeater on a tower we were co-located on. It puts out the most noise when using a regular power supply (48v), and then drops a little with PoE (48v). We were able to eliminate the 50-70Mhz and drop the 140-170Mhz noise down to about 10db by switching to 18v PoE. However, this board is not even CLOSE to FCC specs, and never will be. Many others have discovered this same problem in the last couple of weeks. It is completely obvious on a spectrum analyzer as well. It will shut down emergency two-way radio systems if you are within 1000ft of their repeater (found that one out as well). I have opened a trouble ticket with Mikrotik, emailed John Tulley, emailed support and posted on their forum all with no response (in 3 weeks time). My guess is they are crapping their pants. Travis Microserv Mac Dearman wrote: Where did you get that info from Travis? Links, sourceetc? Mac Dearman From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 3:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532s Maybe they pulled them off production due to the NOISE they are blowing all over the 50-450Mhz spectrum. :( Travis Microserv Kelly Shaw wrote: Anyone know of a source with RouterBoard 532s in stock? I normally can get them from WispRouter but they won't respond to my phone calls about them... Kelly Shaw Pure Internet www.pure.net __ NOD32 1.1657 (20060713) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __ NOD32 1.1657 (20060713) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532s
Here is a thread from the MT forums on it. http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=9130 Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Mac Dearman wrote: Where did you get that info from Travis? Links, source…etc? Mac Dearman *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Travis Johnson *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2006 3:58 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532s Maybe they pulled them off production due to the NOISE they are blowing all over the 50-450Mhz spectrum. :( Travis Microserv Kelly Shaw wrote: Anyone know of a source with RouterBoard 532s in stock? I normally can get them from WispRouter but they won't respond to my phone calls about them... Kelly Shaw Pure Internet www.pure.net http://www.pure.net __ NOD32 1.1657 (20060713) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com !DSPAM:16,44b6c32336811364511223! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links
Hi Patrick How did you guys measure throughput? TCP / UDP / Smartbits? Inquiring minds would like to know -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:28 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links No. We tend to be RF purists (for better or worse) and components that have so wide a frequency range have poorer performance. It is a trade off for sure, but that is why we have not built such a system. As to channelization, it is 40MHz. Our goal was to offer high performance, very high quality, great simplicity, and at a very moderate price. This is not trying to be an Orthogon Spectra and even Redline AN-50 -- WISP already have those options if you have the need and the money. The BreezeNET B series offers a fully featured product with right-sized capacity at very modest cost. The BNET's offer Toyota quality, BMW performance, but at a Chevy price. Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:32 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links Oh, one last thing...can the B100 tune to 5.3GHz as well as 5.8GHz? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links Hello Patrick, Were the 62 80Mbps results using a 20MHz channel or a 40MHz channel? Regardless those are nice numbers. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:00 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links Jory (et al), Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14 B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong results: 62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles 80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100 comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of street price. Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to Point links. I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I have. These new links are shorter with good LOS. I want the reliability of the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles and I need a actual throughput of about 10M I have been looking at the SR5 radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably? I want some real world info here and not just marketing hype. Does anyone have links like this with the SR5? What antenna are you using? How is the performance? Jory Privett WCCS -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(191). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(42). -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(192).
RE: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock
Bummer cliff - your wife already said she'd be there only because I WAS GOING ! :)~ JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock Sh!t...If JohnnyO's gonna be there -- count me out! Mac, what are the details: When, where, local crash spots, etc. - Cliff On 7/13/06 8:13 AM, Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cliff, You, Johnny and Joe will have to travel North (nasty word) of I-10 to get here whereas the whole rest of the world will be traveling South. You know that Y'all are all special :-) Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock Mac, I would be interested in attending... How do I get DOWN to Louisiana from where I live? (duh) :) On 7/12/06 6:18 PM, Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are trying to get a Wireless Woodstock reunion out here for Labor Day. It is wide open for anyone to come out, sit down, eat, drink and just enjoy. Bring your fishing pole...etc All of you ought to try to make down here to Louisiana!! Mac Dearman -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links
Not sure. These were data reported back to us came from trusted beta customers. The 80Mbps was from a customer in the south trunking back a bunch of video connections, the 62Mbps was reported by a large (6k plus CPE) WISP in Texas, where I suppose it was being used for traditional WISP backhaul with commercial and residential Internet access and commercial VLAN stuff. I'll ask the U.S. product manager (bcc'ed here) about performance per specifically UDP, TCP, and Smartbits. Stay tuned, assuming he fills me in! Patrick -Original Message- From: Charles Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 3:47 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links Hi Patrick How did you guys measure throughput? TCP / UDP / Smartbits? Inquiring minds would like to know -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:28 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links No. We tend to be RF purists (for better or worse) and components that have so wide a frequency range have poorer performance. It is a trade off for sure, but that is why we have not built such a system. As to channelization, it is 40MHz. Our goal was to offer high performance, very high quality, great simplicity, and at a very moderate price. This is not trying to be an Orthogon Spectra and even Redline AN-50 -- WISP already have those options if you have the need and the money. The BreezeNET B series offers a fully featured product with right-sized capacity at very modest cost. The BNET's offer Toyota quality, BMW performance, but at a Chevy price. Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:32 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links Oh, one last thing...can the B100 tune to 5.3GHz as well as 5.8GHz? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:30 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links Hello Patrick, Were the 62 80Mbps results using a 20MHz channel or a 40MHz channel? Regardless those are nice numbers. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:00 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links Jory (et al), Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14 B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong results: 62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles 80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100 comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of street price. Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to Point links. I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I have. These new links are shorter with good LOS. I want the reliability of the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles and I need a actual throughput of about 10M I have been looking at the SR5 radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably? I want some real world info here and not just marketing hype. Does anyone have links like this with the SR5? What antenna are you using? How is the performance? Jory Privett WCCS -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(191). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(42).
Re: [WISPA] New WISPA Vendor Member
Fool it must be you, you told me you were the only WISP there :-D You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Gino A. Villarini wrote: 2,500 radios in Puerto Rico..whos that ? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:23 PM To: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] New WISPA Vendor Member I would like to take this opportunity to introduce a new WISPA Vendor Member to our organization. Optivon http://www.optivon.com/ has paid their dues and has made it official. They want to work with all of the WISP industry and help support our efforts through WISPA. I am sure I speak for us all in welcoming them to WISPA. If you have a desire to offer VOIP for your customers then consider giving Optivon a shot at your business. After all, they are the first VOIP vendor to actually build their business plan around working with WISPs like you and support our association. I will be talking to them for my own network's VOIP needs. I hope you all do the same. Here is some information about Optivon: Optivon is a facilities based VoIP applications services provider located in Tampa, FL and San Juan, Puerto Rico. We provide hosted services to local exchange carriers, wireless Internet service providers, and other carriers. Our hosted services include IP Centrex/Hosted PBX, Residential VoIP, IP Trunking and other applications. Through various providers, we can offer a very large nationwide local footprint of DID and toll free numbers with E911 service. If you prefer, for increased margins, we can work with you in helping you operate your own local PSTN connections. This is especially attractive for internationally based carriers. We also offer you attractive domestic and international termination rates. Through our CLEC subsidiary in Puerto Rico, we can provide DID origination and termination. Our platform is based on a carrier class tandem softswitch and a Tekelec 6000 (formerly Vocal Data) applications service platform, which is located in a "bunker type" central office facility for increased network reliability. We have a good understanding of wireless data networks, having operated one. Among our customers for hosted VoIP services are a WISP in Tampa that is expanding into Atlanta and South Florida, another in Connecticut, and one that has 2,500 radios installed in Puerto Rico. We provide service to the largest telephone operating company in the World and to small WISP operators. Different than other providers, Optivon is prepared to work with you providing not only the VoIP services, but also sales and engineering support to help you succeed. Also, we will not compete against you. We only sell our services in the USA through carriers. Please visit our web site at www.optivon.com/us to learn more about our services or contact Rafael Morales at the following address: Optivon Inc. Rafael Morales VP Operations 6304 Benjamin Rd. Suite 514 Tampa, FL 33634 Tel: 813-600-6090 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
