[WISPA] ATT Launches Video Monitoring Service

2006-10-26 Thread Jack Unger

Isn't ATT late to the party?

Hasn't every progressive, forward-thinking WISP been offering this (not 
on phones but on remote PCs) for years???


http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/061026/at_t_remote_surveillance.html?.v=2

jack

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RE: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen

2006-10-26 Thread rwf
Nextel has been buying up 900 MHz trunked systems for years now.
Probably will do what they did to build their first ESMR (Nextel IDEN)-
Take perfectly good systems off the air so they can drive the users to an
unneeded tcchnology.
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen

I think this is definately something we need the answer to (What part of
900Mhz). What exactly is Green Space?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -
From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 4:38 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen


 http://www.rcrnews.com/news.cms?newsId=27618

 They don't say exact freq's except for the reference to unlicensed...
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Re: [WISPA] 60GHz radio trial

2006-10-26 Thread Dawn DiPietro

Hal,

After glancing through the manual it looked like a pretty straight 
forward install. But I guess you never find out until you actually do 
the installation. ;-)


Of course a day of your time is valuable as gold too.

Regards,
Dawn DiPietro



Harold Bledsoe wrote:


Hi guys,

 

Disclaimer:  This is not a sales call, as I am not selling this 
product.  :-)


 

Now, to business.  I need someone to do a 3-month trial with a pair of 
60GHz, 100Mbps full-duplex radios (PtP).  I need the link to be 
500m.  This is a 3-month trial and you are required to give feedback 
(and return the units or buy them) at the end of the trial.  The place 
I had planned to deploy this unit in for evaluation did not work out 
so now I am looking for a new one.


 


Anyone?  Anyone?

 

Oh I guess I should mention that you have to put up with me for a day 
or so for the installation.  :-P


 


-Hal

__

Harold Bledsoe

Deliberant LLC

800.742.9865 x205

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Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen

2006-10-26 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Could they really get by on the low power in the unlicensed noisy 
bands?  Langeler, you know?  Everything I have heard is the big boys 
use high power (at least compared to us) and HIGH receive sensitivity 
because on no noise and that is why is works so well.  Except my Nextel 
has SUCKED for the last two month.  Dropped call after dropped call.


Brian

rwf wrote:


Nextel has been buying up 900 MHz trunked systems for years now.
Probably will do what they did to build their first ESMR (Nextel IDEN)-
Take perfectly good systems off the air so they can drive the users to an
unneeded tcchnology.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:05 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen

I think this is definately something we need the answer to (What part of
900Mhz). What exactly is Green Space?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -
From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 4:38 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen


 


http://www.rcrnews.com/news.cms?newsId=27618

They don't say exact freq's except for the reference to unlicensed...
R



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Re: [WISPA] FCC Docket 06-74

2006-10-26 Thread Frank Muto

Though the comment period is closed, one could still submit comments
requesting late filing and ex-parte and send a notice to the FCC Secretary.
Check box 11 on the cover sheet of the ECFS.


Frank Muto
Co-founder -  Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA
http://gigabytemarch.blog.com/ www.wbia.us


We believe that all Americans are entitled to freedom of choice and that
true competition is unbiased of its provider network. That we be allowed
access to those networks to give all Americans their right to choose any mix
of service or services they choose.









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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Docket 06-74



Tom-

It would be a great idea.  The comment period is
closed now, but it may be re-opened if ATT puts
another set of proposed merger conditions on the
table.  If they do, I'll let this list know.

Mark



--- Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


As condition of merger, Why not require ATT and BS
to offer settlement-free peering, to all ISPs below
a certain size,
without a minimum commit, or to a non-profit entity
that allows settlement-free peering? So that the
merger helps small ISP continue to gain access to
the goliath amount of subscribers that will be
controlled by one enitity after the merger.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Re: [WISPA] ATT Launches Video Monitoring Service

2006-10-26 Thread Peter R.

Jack, you would think so, but most just offer connectivity. Period.

The RBOCs are adding services like crazy to increase the ARPU.

Bundling is how you create an ARPU that is sufficient to maintain profit.
It is also a way to confuse the customer in order that there isn't an 
apples to apples comparison.


Secure. Reliable. Friendly. And Productivity is what people want from a 
service provider.
We don't have a tech savvy population. They need help making better use 
of broadband for security, peace of mind, time savings, shopping, etc.


What do you do to provide that to your customer?

- Peter

Jack Unger wrote:


Isn't ATT late to the party?

Hasn't every progressive, forward-thinking WISP been offering this 
(not on phones but on remote PCs) for years???


http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/061026/at_t_remote_surveillance.html?.v=2

jack


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Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen

2006-10-26 Thread John Scrivner
I am not familiar with the terms you describe below and I am a bit 
confused. Can you break this down with a little more detail and 
explanation? I would like to understand this as I think it is very 
important for us to know what they are trying to do here in 900 MHz.

Thank you,
John Scrivner


rwf wrote:


Nextel has been buying up 900 MHz trunked systems for years now.
Probably will do what they did to build their first ESMR (Nextel IDEN)-
Take perfectly good systems off the air so they can drive the users to an
unneeded tcchnology.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:05 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen

I think this is definately something we need the answer to (What part of
900Mhz). What exactly is Green Space?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -
From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 4:38 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen


 


http://www.rcrnews.com/news.cms?newsId=27618

They don't say exact freq's except for the reference to unlicensed...
R



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[WISPA] SLA for PTP links

2006-10-26 Thread Dylan Bouterse
Does anyone have an example of an SLA for point to point (intra-network)
links?

Dylan
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[WISPA] ? Web Developer Guru's

2006-10-26 Thread Brian Rohrbacher

Hello Web Developer Guru's,
I looking for comments or suggestions on my site survey request 
process.  I want to make sure it's as streamlined as it can be.  Here is 
the current process from start to finish.


Potential subscriber calls and we talk $.  If they are still interested 
I send them to www.reliableinter.net to click on Free availability 
check.  They submit the form,
a cgi script runs, and the raw data is sent to an imap account that my 
web developer and I have access to.


My web developer than open the email from imap in word and runs 2 macros 
to organize the raw data.  One for my copy and one for the customers.
My copy adds a bunch of text at the bottom of all the customer info 
(things like site survey date, install date, mac address, ssid, 
equipment, new email, rate plan,
IP, DNS, and some other good stuff that needs to be on a work order).  
The other macro organizes the raw data for him to send an email back to the
customer see what they submitted along with added text that says, We'll 
call you, bla bla.
After all my work order text is added he emails it (for review) from 
word back to the imap account and the info all shows up in the body of 
the email. Now I print the email (1 page) and stick it in a 3 ring 
binder.  This leaves me with one email/printed email that has every 
field necessary to complete site survey, install, and billing.



Making the process smoother...
I'd like to know if my process could be changed to what I'll describe 
below without a major overhaul, or if it needs major work, tell me a 
little about it.
This reason we're doing it like we are is because I know very little 
about web development/cgi/macro stuff.  This is the way my guy knew how 
to handle it.


After the customer hits submit I want 2 things to happen.

I want a confirmation email auto sent to them that shows them want they 
wrote and shows them the text I added.  So at some point between hitting 
submit

and getting the email, We'll call you. needs to be injected.

I also want an email sent to me with the customers organized data on 
it.  Again, the email is to have text added at the bottom of this email,

but my text needs to be the work order type text I explained earlier.

Summary.  Fill out form.  Click submit.  Two unique email sent.  Their 
copy with We'll call you text and my copy with Work order text.


The last thing.  When I receive the email, I want the sender's email to 
show up so I can hit reply and be talking to them.  Currently the sender 
is my own account

and I have to copy and paste the customers email to reply .

Can it be done and what would it take?

Brian Rohrbacher
Reliable Internet, LLC
www.reliableinter.net
269 838 8338
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Re: [WISPA] ? Web Developer Guru's

2006-10-26 Thread Scott Reed




I can help with the very last thing.  Have your developer add the Reply-To: field to the e-mail.  That is the address your mail program will use when you hit reply.

Scott Reed 


Owner 


NewWays 


Wireless Networking 


Network Design, Installation and Administration 


www.nwwnet.net 




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From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization wireless@wispa.org 


Sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:26:36 -0400 


Subject: [WISPA] ? Web Developer Guru's 



 Hello Web Developer Guru's, 
 

I looking for comments or suggestions on my site survey request  
 

process.  I want to make sure it's as streamlined as it can be.  Here 
is  
 

the current process from start to finish. 
 
 

Potential subscriber calls and we talk $.  If they are still interested  

 

I send them to www.reliableinter.net to click on Free availability  

 

check.  They submit the form, 
 

a cgi script runs, and the raw data is sent to an imap account that 
my  
 

web developer and I have access to. 
 
 

My web developer than open the email from imap in word and runs 2 macros  

 

to organize the raw data.  One for my copy and one for the customers. 

 

My copy adds a bunch of text at the bottom of all the customer info  
 

(things like site survey date, install date, mac address, ssid,  
 

equipment, new email, rate plan, 
 

IP, DNS, and some other good stuff that needs to be on a work order).   

 

The other macro organizes the raw data for him to send an email back to the 

 

customer see what they submitted along with added text that says, We'll  

 

call you, bla bla. 
 

After all my work order text is added he emails it (for review) from 
 
 

word back to the imap account and the info all shows up in the body of  
 

the email. Now I print the email (1 page) and stick it in a 3 ring  
 

binder.  This leaves me with one email/printed email that has every  

 

field necessary to complete site survey, install, and billing. 
 
 

Making the process smoother... 
 

I'd like to know if my process could be changed to what I'll describe  
 

below without a major overhaul, or if it needs major work, tell me a  
 

little about it. 
 

This reason we're doing it like we are is because I know very little  
 

about web development/cgi/macro stuff.  This is the way my guy knew how  

 

to handle it. 
 
 

After the customer hits submit I want 2 things to happen. 
 
 

I want a confirmation email auto sent to them that shows them want they  

 

wrote and shows them the text I added.  So at some point between hitting  

 

submit 
 

and getting the email, We'll call you. needs to be injected. 

 
 

I also want an email sent to me with the customers organized data on  
 

it.  Again, the email is to have text added at the bottom of this email, 

 

but my text needs to be the work order type text I explained 
earlier. 
 
 

Summary.  Fill out form.  Click submit.  Two unique email sent.  
Their  
 

copy with We'll call you text and my copy with Work 
order text. 
 
 

The last thing.  When I receive the email, I want the sender's email to  

 

show up so I can hit reply and be talking to them.  Currently the sender  

 

is my own account 
 

and I have to copy and paste the customers email to reply . 
 
 

Can it be done and what would it take? 
 
 

Brian Rohrbacher 
 

Reliable Internet, LLC 
 

www.reliableinter.net 

 

269 838 8338 
 

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Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen

2006-10-26 Thread Rich Comroe
I don't know what the beef is.  FleetCall bought up in the vicinity of 100 
trunking  SMR channels in each major metro almost 20 yrs ago.  They claimed 
to the FCC that they could serve significantly more users than the typical 
100 users/channel of the current early 90s analog technology.  100 channels 
at 100 users apiece serves only in the vicinity of 10,000 users.  With the 
iDen technology they ultimately served almost half a million in the same 
geographic area with the same spectrum.  So much for the unneeded 
technology assessment.


Now that they're called NexTel, sure they continue adding whatever remaining 
licenses they can get their hands on, but the 800 and 900 Trunking and bands 
are land-locked (no room for expansion), so there's no new technology 
targeted to this band that I know of.  Now that they're merged with Sprint, 
it's no secret where their new technology is targeted (WiMAX).


Rich

- Original Message - 
From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen


I am not familiar with the terms you describe below and I am a bit 
confused. Can you break this down with a little more detail and 
explanation? I would like to understand this as I think it is very 
important for us to know what they are trying to do here in 900 MHz.

Thank you,
John Scrivner


rwf wrote:


Nextel has been buying up 900 MHz trunked systems for years now.
Probably will do what they did to build their first ESMR (Nextel IDEN)-
Take perfectly good systems off the air so they can drive the users to an
unneeded tcchnology.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:05 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen

I think this is definately something we need the answer to (What part of
900Mhz). What exactly is Green Space?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -
From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 4:38 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen




http://www.rcrnews.com/news.cms?newsId=27618

They don't say exact freq's except for the reference to unlicensed...
R



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RE: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen

2006-10-26 Thread Brian Webster
Before everyone gets in an uproar about this, has anyone looked in to the
actual frequencies being used? I'm pretty sure Nextel has some licensed 900
MHz spectrum. I don't have time to dig around for the information but as I
recall they do. I could be wrong. They certainly won't deploy an IDEN system
in the unlicensed bandsCome on. They might however cause
interference with unlicensed stuff in certain situations where you might be
co-located on the same sites. From what I have read I think this is only
going to be in selected East Coast cities anyway, and it's a band aid
approach to the rebanding process.



Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com


-Original Message-
From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen


I am not familiar with the terms you describe below and I am a bit
confused. Can you break this down with a little more detail and
explanation? I would like to understand this as I think it is very
important for us to know what they are trying to do here in 900 MHz.
Thank you,
John Scrivner


rwf wrote:

Nextel has been buying up 900 MHz trunked systems for years now.
Probably will do what they did to build their first ESMR (Nextel IDEN)-
Take perfectly good systems off the air so they can drive the users to an
unneeded tcchnology.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:05 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen

I think this is definately something we need the answer to (What part of
900Mhz). What exactly is Green Space?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -
From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 4:38 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen




http://www.rcrnews.com/news.cms?newsId=27618

They don't say exact freq's except for the reference to unlicensed...
R



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[WISPA] Want to know why I hate the federal government???

2006-10-26 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
A few months back, I got an inquiry from a TV station engineer asking if it
would be possible to provide him with an internet connection.

Well, I did some quick looking, got ahold of him and we had a tentative
agreement that I'd provide him a connection for control and monitoring
purposes, and he'd do the climbing, and in return (no dollars change hands)
for building the 50+ mile backbone to him, I'd get to locate AT LEAST one
access point on his broadcast tower.

Well, I got a note from him just yesterday, as I had inquired about why I
hadn't gotten further action, to find out that since the land the TV station
broadcasts from is leased USFS land (lease is at least 40 years running,
with a minimum of 5 towers on the site) the USFS is telling him he  cannot
run a second unlicensed band link to his TV tower.

I don't have the details yet, but this makes me so mad  so stupidly
infuriating...   NO danger, no negatives, their obstruction SERVES NO USEFUL
PURPOSE...  But they obsstruct just to obstruct.  Power gone mad with self
importance.




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email me at mark at neofast dot net
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Re: [WISPA] ? Web Developer Guru's

2006-10-26 Thread Dawn DiPietro

Brian,

Since first impression is everything I would suggest you need to do 
something with the header graphic. I  know this is not what you asked 
for but I felt that the look and feel of a website is as important as 
functionality.


If you need some help with it let me know since one of the many things I 
do is graphic work.


Regards,
Dawn DiPietro


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:


Hello Web Developer Guru's,
I looking for comments or suggestions on my site survey request 
process.  I want to make sure it's as streamlined as it can be.  Here 
is the current process from start to finish.


Potential subscriber calls and we talk $.  If they are still 
interested I send them to www.reliableinter.net to click on Free 
availability check.  They submit the form,
a cgi script runs, and the raw data is sent to an imap account that 
my web developer and I have access to.


My web developer than open the email from imap in word and runs 2 
macros to organize the raw data.  One for my copy and one for the 
customers.
My copy adds a bunch of text at the bottom of all the customer info 
(things like site survey date, install date, mac address, ssid, 
equipment, new email, rate plan,
IP, DNS, and some other good stuff that needs to be on a work order).  
The other macro organizes the raw data for him to send an email back 
to the
customer see what they submitted along with added text that says, 
We'll call you, bla bla.
After all my work order text is added he emails it (for review) from 
word back to the imap account and the info all shows up in the body of 
the email. Now I print the email (1 page) and stick it in a 3 ring 
binder.  This leaves me with one email/printed email that has every 
field necessary to complete site survey, install, and billing.



Making the process smoother...
I'd like to know if my process could be changed to what I'll describe 
below without a major overhaul, or if it needs major work, tell me a 
little about it.
This reason we're doing it like we are is because I know very little 
about web development/cgi/macro stuff.  This is the way my guy knew 
how to handle it.


After the customer hits submit I want 2 things to happen.

I want a confirmation email auto sent to them that shows them want 
they wrote and shows them the text I added.  So at some point between 
hitting submit

and getting the email, We'll call you. needs to be injected.

I also want an email sent to me with the customers organized data on 
it.  Again, the email is to have text added at the bottom of this email,

but my text needs to be the work order type text I explained earlier.

Summary.  Fill out form.  Click submit.  Two unique email sent.  Their 
copy with We'll call you text and my copy with Work order text.


The last thing.  When I receive the email, I want the sender's email 
to show up so I can hit reply and be talking to them.  Currently the 
sender is my own account

and I have to copy and paste the customers email to reply .

Can it be done and what would it take?

Brian Rohrbacher
Reliable Internet, LLC
www.reliableinter.net
269 838 8338



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Re: [WISPA] ? Web Developer Guru's

2006-10-26 Thread David E. Smith

On Thu, October 26, 2006 10:26 am, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

 After the customer hits submit I want 2 things to happen.

Those both seem relatively easy. What kind of programming environment
(i.e. language) is the current application written in?

David Smith
MVN.net

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Re: [WISPA] ? Web Developer Guru's

2006-10-26 Thread N White
Since it is a CGI script, I'm assuming it's written in Perl. Adding 
those two functions should be relatively easy. Let me know if you need 
anything. I'm a full-time web developer, systems administrator, and 
network administrator; I know these things from all angles.


-Nick


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

Hello Web Developer Guru's,
I looking for comments or suggestions on my site survey request 
process.  I want to make sure it's as streamlined as it can be.  Here 
is the current process from start to finish.


Potential subscriber calls and we talk $.  If they are still 
interested I send them to www.reliableinter.net to click on Free 
availability check.  They submit the form,
a cgi script runs, and the raw data is sent to an imap account that 
my web developer and I have access to.


My web developer than open the email from imap in word and runs 2 
macros to organize the raw data.  One for my copy and one for the 
customers.
My copy adds a bunch of text at the bottom of all the customer info 
(things like site survey date, install date, mac address, ssid, 
equipment, new email, rate plan,
IP, DNS, and some other good stuff that needs to be on a work order).  
The other macro organizes the raw data for him to send an email back 
to the
customer see what they submitted along with added text that says, 
We'll call you, bla bla.
After all my work order text is added he emails it (for review) from 
word back to the imap account and the info all shows up in the body of 
the email. Now I print the email (1 page) and stick it in a 3 ring 
binder.  This leaves me with one email/printed email that has every 
field necessary to complete site survey, install, and billing.



Making the process smoother...
I'd like to know if my process could be changed to what I'll describe 
below without a major overhaul, or if it needs major work, tell me a 
little about it.
This reason we're doing it like we are is because I know very little 
about web development/cgi/macro stuff.  This is the way my guy knew 
how to handle it.


After the customer hits submit I want 2 things to happen.

I want a confirmation email auto sent to them that shows them want 
they wrote and shows them the text I added.  So at some point between 
hitting submit

and getting the email, We'll call you. needs to be injected.

I also want an email sent to me with the customers organized data on 
it.  Again, the email is to have text added at the bottom of this email,

but my text needs to be the work order type text I explained earlier.

Summary.  Fill out form.  Click submit.  Two unique email sent.  Their 
copy with We'll call you text and my copy with Work order text.


The last thing.  When I receive the email, I want the sender's email 
to show up so I can hit reply and be talking to them.  Currently the 
sender is my own account

and I have to copy and paste the customers email to reply .

Can it be done and what would it take?

Brian Rohrbacher
Reliable Internet, LLC
www.reliableinter.net
269 838 8338



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Re: [WISPA] ? Web Developer Guru's

2006-10-26 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Thanks.  I kinda already asked for help.  Looking over my original post 
do you have any more specific suggestions other than it's easy?  I 
have explained what I am currently doing and what I want to do.  I can't 
really ask more because I've included everything I know.


Brian

N White wrote:

Since it is a CGI script, I'm assuming it's written in Perl. Adding 
those two functions should be relatively easy. Let me know if you need 
anything. I'm a full-time web developer, systems administrator, and 
network administrator; I know these things from all angles.


-Nick


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:


Hello Web Developer Guru's,
I looking for comments or suggestions on my site survey request 
process.  I want to make sure it's as streamlined as it can be.  Here 
is the current process from start to finish.


Potential subscriber calls and we talk $.  If they are still 
interested I send them to www.reliableinter.net to click on Free 
availability check.  They submit the form,
a cgi script runs, and the raw data is sent to an imap account that 
my web developer and I have access to.


My web developer than open the email from imap in word and runs 2 
macros to organize the raw data.  One for my copy and one for the 
customers.
My copy adds a bunch of text at the bottom of all the customer info 
(things like site survey date, install date, mac address, ssid, 
equipment, new email, rate plan,
IP, DNS, and some other good stuff that needs to be on a work 
order).  The other macro organizes the raw data for him to send an 
email back to the
customer see what they submitted along with added text that says, 
We'll call you, bla bla.
After all my work order text is added he emails it (for review) 
from word back to the imap account and the info all shows up in the 
body of the email. Now I print the email (1 page) and stick it in a 3 
ring binder.  This leaves me with one email/printed email that has 
every field necessary to complete site survey, install, and billing.



Making the process smoother...
I'd like to know if my process could be changed to what I'll describe 
below without a major overhaul, or if it needs major work, tell me a 
little about it.
This reason we're doing it like we are is because I know very little 
about web development/cgi/macro stuff.  This is the way my guy knew 
how to handle it.


After the customer hits submit I want 2 things to happen.

I want a confirmation email auto sent to them that shows them want 
they wrote and shows them the text I added.  So at some point between 
hitting submit

and getting the email, We'll call you. needs to be injected.

I also want an email sent to me with the customers organized data on 
it.  Again, the email is to have text added at the bottom of this email,

but my text needs to be the work order type text I explained earlier.

Summary.  Fill out form.  Click submit.  Two unique email sent.  
Their copy with We'll call you text and my copy with Work order 
text.


The last thing.  When I receive the email, I want the sender's email 
to show up so I can hit reply and be talking to them.  Currently the 
sender is my own account

and I have to copy and paste the customers email to reply .

Can it be done and what would it take?

Brian Rohrbacher
Reliable Internet, LLC
www.reliableinter.net
269 838 8338





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Re: [WISPA] ? Web Developer Guru's

2006-10-26 Thread Jason Hensley

Brian,

In your backend script (the CGI / Perl script I assume), you could have it 
send out two separate emails - 1 to the client with the information you want 
them to see, and the other to you with the information you are wanting.  I'm 
not that familiar with Perl but I'm assuming it could use SMTP 
Authentication somehow so that the emails sent out could appear to come from 
the customer.  Hard to say much more than it's easy because truthfully, 
any semi-decent coder should be able to do this pretty easily, whether it be 
CGI / Perl, ASP, PHP, whatever, and without seeing your code and your setup, 
it's hard to say what would be best to use in this situation.  I'm an ASP 
guy.  Others are PHP, others are Perl.  They can all accomplish this without 
the intermediate step of having to open Word to put the data in that you 
want.








- Original Message - 
From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ? Web Developer Guru's


Thanks.  I kinda already asked for help.  Looking over my original post do 
you have any more specific suggestions other than it's easy?  I have 
explained what I am currently doing and what I want to do.  I can't really 
ask more because I've included everything I know.


Brian

N White wrote:

Since it is a CGI script, I'm assuming it's written in Perl. Adding those 
two functions should be relatively easy. Let me know if you need 
anything. I'm a full-time web developer, systems administrator, and 
network administrator; I know these things from all angles.


-Nick


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:


Hello Web Developer Guru's,
I looking for comments or suggestions on my site survey request process. 
I want to make sure it's as streamlined as it can be.  Here is the 
current process from start to finish.


Potential subscriber calls and we talk $.  If they are still interested 
I send them to www.reliableinter.net to click on Free availability 
check.  They submit the form,
a cgi script runs, and the raw data is sent to an imap account that my 
web developer and I have access to.


My web developer than open the email from imap in word and runs 2 macros 
to organize the raw data.  One for my copy and one for the customers.
My copy adds a bunch of text at the bottom of all the customer info 
(things like site survey date, install date, mac address, ssid, 
equipment, new email, rate plan,
IP, DNS, and some other good stuff that needs to be on a work order). 
The other macro organizes the raw data for him to send an email back to 
the
customer see what they submitted along with added text that says, We'll 
call you, bla bla.
After all my work order text is added he emails it (for review) from 
word back to the imap account and the info all shows up in the body of 
the email. Now I print the email (1 page) and stick it in a 3 ring 
binder.  This leaves me with one email/printed email that has every 
field necessary to complete site survey, install, and billing.



Making the process smoother...
I'd like to know if my process could be changed to what I'll describe 
below without a major overhaul, or if it needs major work, tell me a 
little about it.
This reason we're doing it like we are is because I know very little 
about web development/cgi/macro stuff.  This is the way my guy knew how 
to handle it.


After the customer hits submit I want 2 things to happen.

I want a confirmation email auto sent to them that shows them want they 
wrote and shows them the text I added.  So at some point between hitting 
submit

and getting the email, We'll call you. needs to be injected.

I also want an email sent to me with the customers organized data on it. 
Again, the email is to have text added at the bottom of this email,

but my text needs to be the work order type text I explained earlier.

Summary.  Fill out form.  Click submit.  Two unique email sent.  Their 
copy with We'll call you text and my copy with Work order text.


The last thing.  When I receive the email, I want the sender's email to 
show up so I can hit reply and be talking to them.  Currently the sender 
is my own account

and I have to copy and paste the customers email to reply .

Can it be done and what would it take?

Brian Rohrbacher
Reliable Internet, LLC
www.reliableinter.net
269 838 8338





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Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen

2006-10-26 Thread Rich Comroe
The preponderence of NexTel channels are in the private land mobile 
806-821/850-865 conventional / trunking band, and a small percentage in the 
902-906 trunking band.  So I believe whatever '900' channels they have are 
*below* the 900 ISM band.  I am most likely off on the numeric band limits. 
But there are IIRC 15MHz of 25KHz channels that they hold licenses among at 
800 (and the separate reverse channels 45MHz higher), and only 4MHz of 
12.5KHz channels at 900 (including both TR, but I don't recall the T/R 
split there).


Rich

- Original Message - 
From: Brian Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:49 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen



Before everyone gets in an uproar about this, has anyone looked in to the
actual frequencies being used? I'm pretty sure Nextel has some licensed 
900

MHz spectrum. I don't have time to dig around for the information but as I
recall they do. I could be wrong. They certainly won't deploy an IDEN 
system

in the unlicensed bandsCome on. They might however cause
interference with unlicensed stuff in certain situations where you might 
be

co-located on the same sites. From what I have read I think this is only
going to be in selected East Coast cities anyway, and it's a band aid
approach to the rebanding process.



Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com


-Original Message-
From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen


I am not familiar with the terms you describe below and I am a bit
confused. Can you break this down with a little more detail and
explanation? I would like to understand this as I think it is very
important for us to know what they are trying to do here in 900 MHz.
Thank you,
John Scrivner


rwf wrote:


Nextel has been buying up 900 MHz trunked systems for years now.
Probably will do what they did to build their first ESMR (Nextel IDEN)-
Take perfectly good systems off the air so they can drive the users to an
unneeded tcchnology.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:05 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen

I think this is definately something we need the answer to (What part of
900Mhz). What exactly is Green Space?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -
From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 4:38 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen





http://www.rcrnews.com/news.cms?newsId=27618

They don't say exact freq's except for the reference to unlicensed...
R



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Re: [WISPA] ? Web Developer Guru's

2006-10-26 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Inline, and thanks.  This is more like the response I needed.  At least 
now I can go learn about smtp auth and how it's done, and the other 
stuff you talked about.
Also Scriv requested no Step by step web design commentary on the 
list.  At this point it looks like I'm pointed more in the right 
direction so I'll go offlist with a couple folks who offered suggestions 
and help.  Once i have all this figured out I can share the code with 
whoever wants it.  But then again this might be so easy no one really 
needs it.


Jason Hensley wrote:


Brian,

In your backend script (the CGI / Perl script I assume), 


cgi

you could have it send out two separate emails - 1 to the client with 
the information you want them to see, and the other to you with the 
information you are wanting.  I'm not that familiar with Perl but I'm 
assuming it could use SMTP Authentication somehow so that the emails 
sent out could appear to come from the customer.  


yup sounds good

Hard to say much more than it's easy because truthfully, any 
semi-decent coder should be able to do this pretty easily, whether it 
be CGI / Perl, ASP, PHP, whatever, and without seeing your code 


I can make it available offlist if someone wanted to look.

and your setup, it's hard to say what would be best to use in this 
situation.  I'm an ASP guy.  Others are PHP, others are Perl.  They 
can all accomplish this without the intermediate step of having to 
open Word to put the data in that you want.


Great









- Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ? Web Developer Guru's


Thanks.  I kinda already asked for help.  Looking over my original 
post do you have any more specific suggestions other than it's 
easy?  I have explained what I am currently doing and what I want to 
do.  I can't really ask more because I've included everything I know.


Brian

N White wrote:

Since it is a CGI script, I'm assuming it's written in Perl. Adding 
those two functions should be relatively easy. Let me know if you 
need anything. I'm a full-time web developer, systems administrator, 
and network administrator; I know these things from all angles.


-Nick


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:


Hello Web Developer Guru's,
I looking for comments or suggestions on my site survey request 
process. I want to make sure it's as streamlined as it can be.  
Here is the current process from start to finish.


Potential subscriber calls and we talk $.  If they are still 
interested I send them to www.reliableinter.net to click on Free 
availability check.  They submit the form,
a cgi script runs, and the raw data is sent to an imap account 
that my web developer and I have access to.


My web developer than open the email from imap in word and runs 2 
macros to organize the raw data.  One for my copy and one for the 
customers.
My copy adds a bunch of text at the bottom of all the customer info 
(things like site survey date, install date, mac address, ssid, 
equipment, new email, rate plan,
IP, DNS, and some other good stuff that needs to be on a work 
order). The other macro organizes the raw data for him to send an 
email back to the
customer see what they submitted along with added text that says, 
We'll call you, bla bla.
After all my work order text is added he emails it (for review) 
from word back to the imap account and the info all shows up in the 
body of the email. Now I print the email (1 page) and stick it in a 
3 ring binder.  This leaves me with one email/printed email that 
has every field necessary to complete site survey, install, and 
billing.



Making the process smoother...
I'd like to know if my process could be changed to what I'll 
describe below without a major overhaul, or if it needs major work, 
tell me a little about it.
This reason we're doing it like we are is because I know very 
little about web development/cgi/macro stuff.  This is the way my 
guy knew how to handle it.


After the customer hits submit I want 2 things to happen.

I want a confirmation email auto sent to them that shows them want 
they wrote and shows them the text I added.  So at some point 
between hitting submit

and getting the email, We'll call you. needs to be injected.

I also want an email sent to me with the customers organized data 
on it. Again, the email is to have text added at the bottom of this 
email,
but my text needs to be the work order type text I explained 
earlier.


Summary.  Fill out form.  Click submit.  Two unique email sent.  
Their copy with We'll call you text and my copy with Work order 
text.


The last thing.  When I receive the email, I want the sender's 
email to show up so I can hit reply and be talking to them.  
Currently the sender is my own account

and I have to copy and paste the customers email to reply .

Can it be done and what would it take?

Brian Rohrbacher
Reliable Internet, LLC

Re: [WISPA] ? Web Developer Guru's

2006-10-26 Thread N White
CGI is Perl. If you'd like to send me a copy of the CGI script, I can 
take a look and see what I could do. You shouldn't have to use SMTP 
authentication, instead just have the script input Reply-To: headers in 
the email it sends to you. Or simply change the From: header to that of 
the client/customer. I work a lot in PHP and Perl, I know both of these 
are capable of doing this for you without using SMTP authentication. 
Send me a message off list if you like.


-Nick


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
Inline, and thanks.  This is more like the response I needed.  At 
least now I can go learn about smtp auth and how it's done, and the 
other stuff you talked about.
Also Scriv requested no Step by step web design commentary on the 
list.  At this point it looks like I'm pointed more in the right 
direction so I'll go offlist with a couple folks who offered 
suggestions and help.  Once i have all this figured out I can share 
the code with whoever wants it.  But then again this might be so 
easy no one really needs it.


Jason Hensley wrote:


Brian,

In your backend script (the CGI / Perl script I assume), 


cgi

you could have it send out two separate emails - 1 to the client with 
the information you want them to see, and the other to you with the 
information you are wanting.  I'm not that familiar with Perl but I'm 
assuming it could use SMTP Authentication somehow so that the emails 
sent out could appear to come from the customer.  


yup sounds good

Hard to say much more than it's easy because truthfully, any 
semi-decent coder should be able to do this pretty easily, whether it 
be CGI / Perl, ASP, PHP, whatever, and without seeing your code 


I can make it available offlist if someone wanted to look.

and your setup, it's hard to say what would be best to use in this 
situation.  I'm an ASP guy.  Others are PHP, others are Perl.  They 
can all accomplish this without the intermediate step of having to 
open Word to put the data in that you want.


Great









- Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ? Web Developer Guru's


Thanks.  I kinda already asked for help.  Looking over my original 
post do you have any more specific suggestions other than it's 
easy?  I have explained what I am currently doing and what I want 
to do.  I can't really ask more because I've included everything I 
know.


Brian

N White wrote:

Since it is a CGI script, I'm assuming it's written in Perl. Adding 
those two functions should be relatively easy. Let me know if you 
need anything. I'm a full-time web developer, systems 
administrator, and network administrator; I know these things from 
all angles.


-Nick


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:


Hello Web Developer Guru's,
I looking for comments or suggestions on my site survey request 
process. I want to make sure it's as streamlined as it can be.  
Here is the current process from start to finish.


Potential subscriber calls and we talk $.  If they are still 
interested I send them to www.reliableinter.net to click on Free 
availability check.  They submit the form,
a cgi script runs, and the raw data is sent to an imap account 
that my web developer and I have access to.


My web developer than open the email from imap in word and runs 2 
macros to organize the raw data.  One for my copy and one for the 
customers.
My copy adds a bunch of text at the bottom of all the customer 
info (things like site survey date, install date, mac address, 
ssid, equipment, new email, rate plan,
IP, DNS, and some other good stuff that needs to be on a work 
order). The other macro organizes the raw data for him to send an 
email back to the
customer see what they submitted along with added text that says, 
We'll call you, bla bla.
After all my work order text is added he emails it (for review) 
from word back to the imap account and the info all shows up in 
the body of the email. Now I print the email (1 page) and stick it 
in a 3 ring binder.  This leaves me with one email/printed email 
that has every field necessary to complete site survey, install, 
and billing.



Making the process smoother...
I'd like to know if my process could be changed to what I'll 
describe below without a major overhaul, or if it needs major 
work, tell me a little about it.
This reason we're doing it like we are is because I know very 
little about web development/cgi/macro stuff.  This is the way my 
guy knew how to handle it.


After the customer hits submit I want 2 things to happen.

I want a confirmation email auto sent to them that shows them want 
they wrote and shows them the text I added.  So at some point 
between hitting submit

and getting the email, We'll call you. needs to be injected.

I also want an email sent to me with the customers organized data 
on it. Again, the email is to have text added at the bottom of 
this email,
but my text needs to be 

[WISPA] FCC definitions

2006-10-26 Thread chris cooper








Does a WISP fall under the designation of a telecommunications
carrier even though it isnt required to file form 499-a?



Under definition found at USC title 47,153.40 , it appears
that an ISP and in particular a WISP offers telecommunications services and is
deemed a telecommunications carrier .



From The USAC website:

To be a telecommunications carrier, the carrier must (1) allow the
customer to transmit information of its own design and choosing, without change
in the form or content of the information, and (2) provide that capability for
a fee directly to the public, or to such classes of users as to be effectively
available to the public (i.e., hold itself out to serve indifferently all
potential users). 



USAC defines a carrier as above. They also require that Eligible
Telecommunications Carriers file 499-A. As an industry, if we supply telecommunications
services, as defined above, directly to a school or library and dont file
the 499  is that considered breaking the rules? Im caught
between a rock and the horns of a dilemma.



Chris






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Re: [WISPA] ? Web Developer Guru's

2006-10-26 Thread Jason Hensley
Any time.  I hit you offlist as well with some other info.  Let me know if 
you need anything else.  I've got a Perl guy on staff too that could help 
out if you need it.  Looks like a lot of others have chimed in for you too 
though, so best of luck.



- Original Message - 
From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ? Web Developer Guru's


Inline, and thanks.  This is more like the response I needed.  At least 
now I can go learn about smtp auth and how it's done, and the other stuff 
you talked about.
Also Scriv requested no Step by step web design commentary on the list. 
At this point it looks like I'm pointed more in the right direction so 
I'll go offlist with a couple folks who offered suggestions and help. 
Once i have all this figured out I can share the code with whoever wants 
it.  But then again this might be so easy no one really needs it.


Jason Hensley wrote:


Brian,

In your backend script (the CGI / Perl script I assume),


cgi

you could have it send out two separate emails - 1 to the client with the 
information you want them to see, and the other to you with the 
information you are wanting.  I'm not that familiar with Perl but I'm 
assuming it could use SMTP Authentication somehow so that the emails sent 
out could appear to come from the customer.


yup sounds good

Hard to say much more than it's easy because truthfully, any 
semi-decent coder should be able to do this pretty easily, whether it be 
CGI / Perl, ASP, PHP, whatever, and without seeing your code


I can make it available offlist if someone wanted to look.

and your setup, it's hard to say what would be best to use in this 
situation.  I'm an ASP guy.  Others are PHP, others are Perl.  They can 
all accomplish this without the intermediate step of having to open Word 
to put the data in that you want.


Great









- Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher 
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Thanks.  I kinda already asked for help.  Looking over my original post 
do you have any more specific suggestions other than it's easy?  I 
have explained what I am currently doing and what I want to do.  I can't 
really ask more because I've included everything I know.


Brian

N White wrote:

Since it is a CGI script, I'm assuming it's written in Perl. Adding 
those two functions should be relatively easy. Let me know if you need 
anything. I'm a full-time web developer, systems administrator, and 
network administrator; I know these things from all angles.


-Nick


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:


Hello Web Developer Guru's,
I looking for comments or suggestions on my site survey request 
process. I want to make sure it's as streamlined as it can be.  Here 
is the current process from start to finish.


Potential subscriber calls and we talk $.  If they are still 
interested I send them to www.reliableinter.net to click on Free 
availability check.  They submit the form,
a cgi script runs, and the raw data is sent to an imap account that 
my web developer and I have access to.


My web developer than open the email from imap in word and runs 2 
macros to organize the raw data.  One for my copy and one for the 
customers.
My copy adds a bunch of text at the bottom of all the customer info 
(things like site survey date, install date, mac address, ssid, 
equipment, new email, rate plan,
IP, DNS, and some other good stuff that needs to be on a work order). 
The other macro organizes the raw data for him to send an email back 
to the
customer see what they submitted along with added text that says, 
We'll call you, bla bla.
After all my work order text is added he emails it (for review) from 
word back to the imap account and the info all shows up in the body of 
the email. Now I print the email (1 page) and stick it in a 3 ring 
binder.  This leaves me with one email/printed email that has every 
field necessary to complete site survey, install, and billing.



Making the process smoother...
I'd like to know if my process could be changed to what I'll describe 
below without a major overhaul, or if it needs major work, tell me a 
little about it.
This reason we're doing it like we are is because I know very little 
about web development/cgi/macro stuff.  This is the way my guy knew 
how to handle it.


After the customer hits submit I want 2 things to happen.

I want a confirmation email auto sent to them that shows them want 
they wrote and shows them the text I added.  So at some point between 
hitting submit

and getting the email, We'll call you. needs to be injected.

I also want an email sent to me with the customers organized data on 
it. Again, the email is to have text added at the bottom of this 
email,
but my text needs to be the work order type text I explained 
earlier.


Summary.  

Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen

2006-10-26 Thread Tom DeReggi

The scare was that... Unlicensed was specifically mentioned.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Brian Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:49 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen



Before everyone gets in an uproar about this, has anyone looked in to the
actual frequencies being used? I'm pretty sure Nextel has some licensed 
900

MHz spectrum. I don't have time to dig around for the information but as I
recall they do. I could be wrong. They certainly won't deploy an IDEN 
system

in the unlicensed bandsCome on. They might however cause
interference with unlicensed stuff in certain situations where you might 
be

co-located on the same sites. From what I have read I think this is only
going to be in selected East Coast cities anyway, and it's a band aid
approach to the rebanding process.



Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com


-Original Message-
From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen


I am not familiar with the terms you describe below and I am a bit
confused. Can you break this down with a little more detail and
explanation? I would like to understand this as I think it is very
important for us to know what they are trying to do here in 900 MHz.
Thank you,
John Scrivner


rwf wrote:


Nextel has been buying up 900 MHz trunked systems for years now.
Probably will do what they did to build their first ESMR (Nextel IDEN)-
Take perfectly good systems off the air so they can drive the users to an
unneeded tcchnology.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen

I think this is definately something we need the answer to (What part of
900Mhz). What exactly is Green Space?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -
From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 4:38 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen





http://www.rcrnews.com/news.cms?newsId=27618

They don't say exact freq's except for the reference to unlicensed...
R



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Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen

2006-10-26 Thread Tom DeReggi

ISM 902-928.

Exact band and Power limit is relevant. Currently, the top 25% of ISM 900 
bandwidth (channel 4) is unusable, in MANY areas, due to blead over from 930 
Licensed high power gear (500W).  If the same thing were to occur at the 
lower portion of 900 ISM bandwdith, it could kill Channel 1 also, horribly 
effecting WISPs using unlicenced.  They also may be requesting to use higher 
power on the actual ISM bands, argueing Public Safety is more important than 
unlicensed use.  Iftheir request is granted, specifics should be lsited on 
how they are going to prevent interference with existing unlicensed band 
users.  Remember that the goal may not only be to use the spectrum. They 
have benefit in killing off all the 900Mhz WISPs, that could compete with 
Sprint/Nextel Next generation WiMax type Licensed  700M-900M solutions.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Rich Comroe [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen


The preponderence of NexTel channels are in the private land mobile 
806-821/850-865 conventional / trunking band, and a small percentage in 
the 902-906 trunking band.  So I believe whatever '900' channels they have 
are *below* the 900 ISM band.  I am most likely off on the numeric band 
limits. But there are IIRC 15MHz of 25KHz channels that they hold licenses 
among at 800 (and the separate reverse channels 45MHz higher), and only 
4MHz of 12.5KHz channels at 900 (including both TR, but I don't recall 
the T/R split there).


Rich

- Original Message - 
From: Brian Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:49 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen



Before everyone gets in an uproar about this, has anyone looked in to the
actual frequencies being used? I'm pretty sure Nextel has some licensed 
900
MHz spectrum. I don't have time to dig around for the information but as 
I
recall they do. I could be wrong. They certainly won't deploy an IDEN 
system

in the unlicensed bandsCome on. They might however cause
interference with unlicensed stuff in certain situations where you might 
be

co-located on the same sites. From what I have read I think this is only
going to be in selected East Coast cities anyway, and it's a band aid
approach to the rebanding process.



Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com


-Original Message-
From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen


I am not familiar with the terms you describe below and I am a bit
confused. Can you break this down with a little more detail and
explanation? I would like to understand this as I think it is very
important for us to know what they are trying to do here in 900 MHz.
Thank you,
John Scrivner


rwf wrote:


Nextel has been buying up 900 MHz trunked systems for years now.
Probably will do what they did to build their first ESMR (Nextel IDEN)-
Take perfectly good systems off the air so they can drive the users to an
unneeded tcchnology.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:05 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen

I think this is definately something we need the answer to (What part of
900Mhz). What exactly is Green Space?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -
From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 4:38 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen





http://www.rcrnews.com/news.cms?newsId=27618

They don't say exact freq's except for the reference to unlicensed...
R



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Re: [WISPA] Sprint / Nextel to use 900mz for iDen

2006-10-26 Thread Mike Cowan
Filters fix this problem quite handily.  We recommend one on every 
system needed or not.  I don't see an issue here.


Mike



At 07:07 PM 10/26/2006, you wrote:

ISM 902-928.

Exact band and Power limit is relevant. Currently, the top 25% of 
ISM 900 bandwidth (channel 4) is unusable, in MANY areas, due to 
blead over from 930 Licensed high power gear (500W).  If the same 
thing were to occur at the lower portion of 900 ISM bandwdith, it 
could kill Channel 1 also, horribly effecting WISPs using 
unlicenced.  They also may be requesting to use higher power on the 
actual ISM bands, argueing Public Safety is more important than 
unlicensed use.  Iftheir request is granted, specifics should be 
lsited on how they are going to prevent interference with existing 
unlicensed band users.  Remember that the goal may not only be to 
use the spectrum. They have benefit in killing off all the 900Mhz 
WISPs, that could compete with Sprint/Nextel Next generation WiMax 
type Licensed  700M-900M solutions.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband



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419-660-6100
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