Re: [WISPA] Main Street USA

2007-04-20 Thread George Rogato
Chase Phillips wrote: I know we don't do QOS right now but we might soon. If that prioritization (based on packet TOS) makes sense for a lot of our customers, we might implement that feature sooner. Speaking of quality, Chase, what is your groups real world performance expectations

[WISPA] WISPA Board Applications

2007-04-20 Thread Rick Harnish
The WISPA Board Election schedule has been set. All interested members need to go to http://nominations.wispa.org/ and fill out the application for the ballot. We encourage and expect to get a very good response to this year's call for directors. We have grown substantially in the last six

[WISPA] E ai, Essa voce tem que ver!

2007-04-20 Thread Manoel Wanderley
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Re: [WISPA] Man I LOVE this wireless stuff!

2007-04-20 Thread Tim Wolfe
And they said Ken was to old for that kind of stuff, But I always new he had it in him (sorry for the late reply, I just read this now) Dawn DiPietro wrote: Scriv, There will be another DiPietro around to one day troll the lists. ;-) Regards, Dawn DiPietro John Scrivner wrote: Dawn, Is

Re: [WISPA] WISPA Board Applications

2007-04-20 Thread John Scrivner
I just filled mine out. If any of you have not applied for the board and you want to help us run this organization then please go to http://nominations.wispa.org and signup. We did not get enough applications to even fill the board last time. We want a full 7 member board this time guys and it

[WISPA] E ai, Essa voce tem que ver!

2007-04-20 Thread Manoel Wanderley
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Re: [WISPA] Main Street USA

2007-04-20 Thread John Scrivner
Replies below: Chase Phillips wrote: Hi Marlon, On 4/19/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome to the list! Thanks for joining us. Happy to be here! I remember when John told me about starting WISPA years ago. Before that, I remember all of us at MVN

Re: [WISPA] OT: Main Street USA

2007-04-20 Thread Travis Johnson
Ok... I have to go off-topic for a second... I keep seeing the Main Street USA subject line and need to post... and it's Friday... :) Which state in the US has the longest main street and how long is it? Travis Microserv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

RE: [WISPA] Main Street USA

2007-04-20 Thread ralph
They distributed Ruckus and Peplink. Never heard about Meraki being used. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 10:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Main Street USA Ralph, As quoted

Re: [WISPA] OT: Main Street USA

2007-04-20 Thread George Rogato
Arizona McDowell , when I left AZ in '87 was 356 miles long and growing, was a very long street. But my town here on the Central Oregon Coast, has to have one of the longest... HWY 101 runs from Mexico to Wsrshington State. Travis Johnson wrote: Ok... I have to go off-topic for a second...

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-20 Thread Mario Pommier
wishful thinking FCC realizes areas are underserved. They also realize independent broadband providers -- read wireless ISPs -- are an excellent, if not better, solution as a competitive solution in many areas, rural and otherwise. FCC makes sub-700Mhz available for unlicensed

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-20 Thread Matt
wishful thinking FCC realizes areas are underserved. They also realize independent broadband providers -- read wireless ISPs -- are an excellent, if not better, solution as a competitive solution in many areas, rural and otherwise. FCC makes sub-700Mhz available for unlicensed broadband,

[WISPA] Banned from list

2007-04-20 Thread John Scrivner
I have banned [EMAIL PROTECTED] from further posts on our list and he will not be able to subscribe. Scriv Manoel Wanderley wrote: Web Charges http://bkyewlmi6o9x5ie.uol.com/bkyewlmi6o9x5ie Charges http://bkyewlmi6o9x5ie.globo.com/bkyewlmi6o9x5ie/prev_html.aspx?id=20/04/2007[EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] WISPA Board Applications

2007-04-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I'll not be running again so we need two new board members. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless

[WISPA] poe injectors splitters and power supplys

2007-04-20 Thread RickG
OK guys, where is the least expensive source for poe injectors splitters and power supplys? Thanks! RickG -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-20 Thread Peter R.
Where did you get THAT number? 3000. 6000. I'd bet that there are less than 2000 total indie ISP's left. Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Arrggh! The REAL problem is that the don't accurately count providers. They only catch the larger ones. We're NOT behind. Not like

[WISPA] Clearwire

2007-04-20 Thread Peter R.
I find it funny that CITI has been marking all these tech companies as sell before burned, yet their clients were involved in the IPO's. http://www.fool.com/investing/value/2007/03/12/clearwire-burns-cash-churns-investors.aspx March 12, 2007 Mobile mogul Craig McCaw's latest venture,

Re: [WISPA] Banned from list

2007-04-20 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Scriv, Thank you. Regards, Dawn DiPietro John Scrivner wrote: I have banned [EMAIL PROTECTED] from further posts on our list and he will not be able to subscribe. Scriv Manoel Wanderley wrote: Web Charges http://bkyewlmi6o9x5ie.uol.com/bkyewlmi6o9x5ie Charges

[WISPA] ATT, Earthlink Eye Chicago Wi-Fi

2007-04-20 Thread Peter R.
*ATT, Earthlink Eye Chicago Wi-Fi* /Pitching plans to city for wireless broadband network/ Posted 2007-04-20 Chicago should prove to be an interesting battleground for wireless broadband over the next few years, as both Earthlink and ATT hope to build citywide Wi-Fi networks. Chicago is also

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes

2007-04-20 Thread Peter R.
It is kind of an apples to oranges comparison since Japan and Korea and a few other places (even Aussie) have more than 70% of their population living densely in a city. That makes BB penetration easy. That being said. Since 1999, the RBOCs have been charging us for a DS3 fiber network that

Re: [WISPA] WISPA Board Applications

2007-04-20 Thread Carl A jeptha
I already filled out mine, now when can I start campaigning, I have my lawn signs ready You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha John Scrivner wrote: I just filled mine out. If any of you have not

RE: [WISPA] OT: Main Street USA

2007-04-20 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
River rd along the Mississippi river, but that's more than one state... Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis

Re: [WISPA] Main Street USA

2007-04-20 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Ralph, As quoted from the link below; Google distributed the devices to businesses and apartment complexes in Mountain View that were having trouble connecting to the city's free wireless system. http://money.cnn.com/2007/03/26/technology/pluggedin_lashinsky_google.fortune/index.htm Regards,

[WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-20 Thread Justin S. Wilson
Found this on Slashdot For years, plenty of folks (including the Government Accountability Office) have been pointing out that the way the FCC http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070205/165735.shtml measures broadband competition is very flawed. It simply assumes that if a single household in a

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Arrggh! The REAL problem is that the don't accurately count providers. They only catch the larger ones. We're NOT behind. Not like some like to claim we are. Hell, there are at LEAST 3000 wisps out there yet the FCC only has 400 of them filing the form 477. I'll bet the real

[WISPA] WISPA ISPCON PROMO

2007-04-20 Thread John Scrivner
We're excited to be exhibiting at ISPCON Spring 2007: LaunchPad Pavilion J. And we want to see you there! We have negotiated a special rate for our clients and partners so you can save big on your ISPCON full-conference registration. But that is only the start, please read on... ISPCON Spring

Re: [WISPA] Clearwire

2007-04-20 Thread George Rogato
I would think that if I owned a stock, a speculative non profitable stock such as CLWR, that the analysts said had 5 years before it ran out of gas, I'd keep that stock. Probably buy more. So says others. http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ao?s=CLWR Peter R. wrote: I find it funny that CITI has

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-20 Thread Matt
For years, plenty of folks (including the Government Accountability Office) have been pointing out that the way the FCC http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070205/165735.shtml measures broadband competition is very flawed. It simply assumes that if a single household in a zip code is offered

RE: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-20 Thread Rick Harnish
I would tend to agree with you Peter. That number may have been valid 12 months ago, but I have seen quite a few in my area that have closed up shop. I can only assume that our area is similar to the rest of the country. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc.

Re: [WISPA] WISPA ISPCON PROMO

2007-04-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Wow!!! That's very cool Frank! Thanks much, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -

Re: [WISPA] OT: Main Street USA

2007-04-20 Thread Doug Ratcliffe
I'd say US 1, which runs from the end of Florida, to the border of Canada on the East Coast. It's Main Street for most cities it goes through. US 1 in Florida is at least 400 miles long... - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Main Street USA

2007-04-20 Thread Chase Phillips
Hi George, On 4/19/07, George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of quality, Chase, what is your groups real world performance expectations noise, self interference, and speeds? What most people are interested in when asking that question of our gear is what our performance is through

Re: [WISPA] OT: Main Street USA

2007-04-20 Thread Travis Johnson
Ok the answer is Island Park, Idaho. The Main Street is actually 31 miles long. :) We provide service in that area, and it's a very popular recreation area (snowmobiles, fly fishing, outdoor sportsman, etc.). Travis Microserv Doug Ratcliffe wrote: I'd say US 1, which runs from the

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Yeah. But the FCC is also to blame. The form is ridiculously complicated. And how many are really gonna fill it out? The FCC needs to really do research beyond asking the public to provide input. Unfortunately, we'll likely never really know till there is a tax on broadband connections.

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-20 Thread George Rogato
I believe that we are at a junction where if there is a need for broadband and those in need make it known, that the competitive private sector will gladly step up and offer service. Isn't that where most of us are at now? Looking for new markets? George Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

Re: [WISPA] WISPA ISPCON PROMO

2007-04-20 Thread Frank Muto
Thank you Marlon. I do want to make it clear that this is a two fold offer. Not only do the first 10 get a paid WISPA Membership, but they also get the Bonus #2 for $250 credit towards any services we provide, i.e., Postini and our upcoming new mail service featuring POP3, IMAP and Web Mail,

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-20 Thread Peter R.
Doesn't explain where you got the 3000 or 6000 number. If you pulled it out of your.. air... then you are doing a disservice. If the number is really 900, and 300 fill out the form - that's 1/3 and great. Even though it is disappointed that there are only 900 indie ISP's left. If the number

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sure there are some that close up. But we're still seeing new ones form too. And, as importantly, those still here seem to be growing by leaps and bounds too. We're running 96% ahead of last year's installation numbers right now! At least on the cash sales side of things, no special

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Not me. I'm still looking for money to build out. Not many places left, and they certainly aren't low hanging fruit anymore, but there are still places to play. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
In case you missed it in an earlier email. I called the top 5 or 6 vendors in the WISP space and pestered them till they told me how many providers they had on the books as WISPs. MUCH more accurate than the 477 and a similar or more comprehensive effort by the FCC would take someone all

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
In 2004 *I* called the main distributors in the wisp space. 5 of them as I recall. It took some time and some arm twisting, but I got them to tell me how many wisps that they had in their databases. It totaled out at 12,000! I assumed that around 25% had purchased from most of them at one

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-20 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
Except that the SAME wisps were dealing with the top 5 or 6 vendors, so your count is quite inflated. Lonnie On 4/20/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In case you missed it in an earlier email. I called the top 5 or 6 vendors in the WISP space and pestered them

RE: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-20 Thread Patrick Leary
The exact number of WISPs may be in specific debate, but whether the number is higher than the reported 400 odd WISPs is not. I am certain the number is at least 500% higher than that. And doing some basic number crunching (which I won't reveal) on the amount we sell into the U.S., along with good

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-20 Thread Peter R.
And that was 2004. I'm not arguing just to argue. This is a soapbox, so delete and move on if you want. When you go to the Feds and say that there are 6000 and only 400 have reported, that doesn't bode well for anyone. It makes the Feds nervous. It shines an ugly light on this so-called

RE: [WISPA] Main Street USA

2007-04-20 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
Chase, Yesterday, we set up a mini in a restaurant for a open access hotspot. Worked excellent, except, We can't ping through to OUR gateway , and we cant ssh using putty, into our system. Why are we being blocked? How can we get around this network monitoring problem, we use the various

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-20 Thread George Rogato
I can tell you that I have talked to wisps that want nothing to do with FCC, 477, CALEA or anyone that wants to know about their business. So there is quite a large percentage that will not show up on the radar. It would be hard to imagine that the supply chain to this industry would survive

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
There were 12,000 on the rolls. The largest single count was 6000. I assumed a 75% overlap to be on the safe side. But with a high of 6000 at ONE company, there's no way to have overlap on that 6000. The real number in 2004 was somewhere around that 6000 mark. And for your 40% that are

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-20 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Marlon, The projections for municipal wireless networks are about 300 but you cannot say this number will add 300 Wireless Providers to the total number of WISP's. Some providers of these networks could run more than one municipality. I am sure some of these providers are already counted in

Re: [WISPA] Man I LOVE this wireless stuff!

2007-04-20 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Tim, It's cool, I am sure you are busy with all that you do during the week. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Tim Wolfe wrote: And they said Ken was to old for that kind of stuff, But I always new he had it in him (sorry for the late reply, I just read this now) Dawn DiPietro wrote: Scriv,