[WISPA] Re: Wireless Digest, Vol 2, Issue 24

2007-07-20 Thread Bernard Bargfrede
Already belong to TCMLink. So don't think I can register again. Oh I do have 2 airplanes and I think only 1 is registered. But I don't have engine S/N here. Thanks, bb - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:15 PM

RE: [WISPA] RE: Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any moreaftertomorrow

2007-07-20 Thread Marty Dougherty
Patrick- Do you have an expected date for Alvarions 5.4 VL? Marty -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] RE:

[WISPA] Congress Realizes Broadband Data Sucks

2007-07-20 Thread David Hughes
Congress Realizes Broadband Data Sucks Finally does something about it years later... User erin1 writes in: The Senate Commerce Committee today voted unanimously in favor of S. 1492 (pdf), which would require the FCC to come up with a revised definition for broadband within 120 days of the bill's

[WISPA] RB 133c

2007-07-20 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Hey Guys, I am trying to build some super cheap backhauls. How much traffic could I pass with the 133 and a couple of sr5, and would I want a level 3 or 4 lic? Thanks, Brian Would you like to see your

Re: [WISPA] RE: Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any moreaftertomorrow

2007-07-20 Thread Mike Hammett
I heard that if a deployed CPE fails you can replace it with an old system, but you can't have new deployments with old gear. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];

Re: [WISPA] Bison Pro Fab

2007-07-20 Thread Mike Hammett
haha, good one. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bison Pro Fab Gino, Well, I'd

Re: [WISPA] RB 133c

2007-07-20 Thread Dennis Burgess
12-15 meg.. depending on rules, connection tracking off may get you more. On 7/20/07, Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys, I am trying to build some super cheap backhauls. How much traffic could I pass with the 133 and a couple of sr5, and would I want a level 3 or 4 lic?

Re: [WISPA] RB 133c

2007-07-20 Thread JohnnyO
Don't use 133s for backhauls. You will NOT get 12meg-15meg We have a 133 in place that is at 100% CPU utilization at 6meg with very very little else going on other then traffic. JohnnyO - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] RB 133c

2007-07-20 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
6 meg would do. I would install a higher cpu unit later. Brian JohnnyO wrote: Don't use 133s for backhauls. You will NOT get 12meg-15meg We have a 133 in place that is at 100% CPU utilization at 6meg with very very little else going on other then traffic. JohnnyO - Original

RE: [WISPA] RB 133c

2007-07-20 Thread chris cooper
Tranzeo isn't cheap when you consider the failure rate. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:09 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] RB 133c Why not use a couple or Tranzeos or Deliberants

RE: [WISPA] RB 133c

2007-07-20 Thread Ralph
I have a 133 that loses 50% of its throughput at 8 Mb/S And it is only being used as a hotspot router with one user. In circuit, throughput is 4. With it out of circuit, throughput goes up to 8. This is a plain routerboard, 2.9.44 with no radios in the loop at all. I'm thinking the 133 is about

[WISPA] Google makes it official -- putting up $4.6 billion

2007-07-20 Thread Patrick Leary
http://64.233.179.110/blog_resources/Google_Ex_Parte_Letter_Signed.pdf Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This footnote confirms that this email

RE: [WISPA] Google makes it official -- putting up $4.6 billion

2007-07-20 Thread Drew Lentz
That is wonderful news if you ask me! Drew Lentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 12:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] Google

Re: [WISPA] RB 133c

2007-07-20 Thread Ryan Langseth
Out of curiousity what is Super Cheap with an rb setup like this? Ryan Brian Rohrbacher wrote: 6 meg would do. I would install a higher cpu unit later. Brian JohnnyO wrote: Don't use 133s for backhauls. You will NOT get 12meg-15meg We have a 133 in place that is at 100% CPU

Re: [WISPA] RB 133c

2007-07-20 Thread Mark Nash
Yes, however JohnnyO is stating that it's at 100% CPU utilization, so you'd need more if you get similar results. Mark Nash UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] RB 133c

2007-07-20 Thread Blair Davis
Brian, Use the RB 532 or 532A. Little more expensive, but I get 20 Mbit/sec + thru them in a PtMP setup on 5.8GHz with sr5 or xr5 cards. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Hey Guys, I am trying to build some super cheap backhauls. How much traffic could I pass with the 133 and a couple of sr5, and

Re: [WISPA] RB 133c

2007-07-20 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I plan on using a big enough enclosure to put whatever radio in there I need to in the future, but for now, it looks like a $59 rb will do. I also will be using some dual pol solid dishes, and hooking up both cables to the enclosure, then, I am all set ip for a full duplex upgrade. All I'd

RE: [WISPA] Google makes it official -- putting up $4.6 billion

2007-07-20 Thread Patrick Leary
It is great news to spur the coming future of broadband ubiquity, and I mean ubiquity not only relative to place, but also in terms of what gets connected. I ain't about cell phones anymore, that's for sure. If the thing can benefit from intelligence and networking, expect an effort to make such a

Re: [WISPA] RB 133c

2007-07-20 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Ya, but it's an extra $280 per link, times 10. It's that $2800 I don't have now. Blair Davis wrote: Brian, Use the RB 532 or 532A. Little more expensive, but I get 20 Mbit/sec + thru them in a PtMP setup on 5.8GHz with sr5 or xr5 cards. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Hey Guys, I am

Re: [WISPA] RB 133c

2007-07-20 Thread Dennis Burgess
There are RB 600s, and 1000s coming out. the 600s with the daughterboard looks the most promising I still have no ETA on any of them though. On 7/20/07, Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ya, but it's an extra $280 per link, times 10. It's that $2800 I don't have now. Blair

Re: [WISPA] RB 133c

2007-07-20 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Which is why I don't want to invest more than $59 into a board today. Brian Dennis Burgess wrote: There are RB 600s, and 1000s coming out. the 600s with the daughterboard looks the most promising I still have no ETA on any of them though. On 7/20/07, Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] RB 133c

2007-07-20 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Would 600 and 1000 mean mhz? Where would a guy find specs for these new boards? Brian Dennis Burgess wrote: There are RB 600s, and 1000s coming out. the 600s with the daughterboard looks the most promising I still have no ETA on any of them though. On 7/20/07, Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] RB 133c

2007-07-20 Thread Blair Davis
I was just told by one of my suppliers that the RB 532 and 532A are being end of life'ed in favor of the RB 600... Hope that the 600 will fit in the same NEMA boxes I use. Blair Dennis Burgess wrote: There are RB 600s, and 1000s coming out. the 600s with the daughterboard looks the most

Re: [WISPA] RB 133c

2007-07-20 Thread Dennis Burgess
no it will not. It is a much bigger board! On 7/20/07, Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just told by one of my suppliers that the RB 532 and 532A are being end of life'ed in favor of the RB 600... Hope that the 600 will fit in the same NEMA boxes I use. Blair Dennis Burgess

Re: [WISPA] RB 133c

2007-07-20 Thread Dennis Burgess
No, visit http://www.mikrotikconsulting.com and hit the blog, there is a link there with information on them. On 7/20/07, Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would 600 and 1000 mean mhz? Where would a guy find specs for these new boards? Brian Dennis Burgess wrote: There are RB

Re: [WISPA] RB 133c

2007-07-20 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I looked on the blog, but didn't see how big they would be. I need to make sure I have big enough enclosures. Anyone have any ideas on enclosures. Brian Dennis Burgess wrote: No, visit http://www.mikrotikconsulting.com and hit the blog, there is a link there with information on them. On

[WISPA] West Chicago

2007-07-20 Thread Mike Hammett
Can anyone serve this location? 27W174 North Ave. West Chicago, IL 60185 (630) 231 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the

Re: [WISPA] RB 133c

2007-07-20 Thread Zack Kneisley
http://www.hyperlinktechnologies.com/ Do I need to get a spoon?? Happy Friday everyone. On 7/20/07, Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked on the blog, but didn't see how big they would be. I need to make sure I have big enough enclosures. Anyone have any ideas on enclosures.

[WISPA] Google open to wireless bid

2007-07-20 Thread Felix A. Lopez
As it pertains to the previous postings... Google open to wireless bid By Richard Waters in San Francisco Published: July 20 2007 21:19 | Last updated: July 20 2007 21:19 Google has disclosed for the first time that it is prepared to bid in a forthcoming auction of wireless spectrum in the US,

[WISPA] Our 5.3 GHz cert is in!

2007-07-20 Thread Patrick Leary
We made the date. Yeehaw! It was quite a feat and we have done it with backward capability even with new CPE in old sectors, which is huge. This is a big advantage for BreezeACCESS VL 5.3 GHz users and it demonstrates once again our long term commitment to protect the investment of our WISPs. It

Re: [WISPA] RB 133c

2007-07-20 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
m fod says homer Zack Kneisley wrote: http://www.hyperlinktechnologies.com/ Do I need to get a spoon?? Happy Friday everyone. On 7/20/07, Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked on the blog, but didn't see how big they would be. I need to make sure I have big

Re: [WISPA] RB 133c

2007-07-20 Thread Mike Hammett
There's a PDF of a presentation before the Orlando MUM. I can't seem to find it at the moment, but its the best representation of the new boards I've seen. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL

[WISPA] Tranzeo, routers

2007-07-20 Thread RickG
Anyone have issues with using certain routers connecting to Tranzeo cpe? We had an issue today trying to get a DLink to work. We have connectivity to the net with a laptop directly connected to the Tranzeo but it will not work through the DLink. Belkin routers seem to work fin ebut I hate those.

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo, routers

2007-07-20 Thread Sam Tetherow
We use D-Link almost exclusively for routers and haven't had any problems connecting them to TR5a-24fs or TR-SL5-16fs. We mostly set the TRs up in bridge mode with the router behind them, but have started moving to using the TR as a router and having the dlink DHCP off of the TR. Sam

Re: [WISPA] Our 5.3 GHz cert is in!

2007-07-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
Congradulations Alvarion! I'm pretty sure that makes you guys first across the finish line, on that topic. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

RE: [WISPA] Our 5.3 GHz cert is in!

2007-07-20 Thread Patrick Leary
Actually, Moto's came in day before officially (posted on the OET site). Unofficially, our was completed before but the lab engineer went home early and did not post it on the site. So a day apart. The important thing was to get it in before the deadline -- that was the mission on our side.

[WISPA] T-Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-07-20 Thread John Valenti
T-Mobile launched their [EMAIL PROTECTED] service at the end of June. I picked up one of these cell phones a few weeks ago. The deal is for an extra $10/month, you get unlimited calls in the US if they are made over wifi. The wifi connection generally works with any open AP, or if you know

RE: [WISPA] Tranzeo, routers

2007-07-20 Thread D. Ryan Spott
That results in double nat... That plays hell with streaming and VPN in my area. I can always tell when someone has done that in this area because they call me to tell me how much the service stinks. If people want to have a wireless router in their house I tell them to set the LAN IP of the

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo, routers

2007-07-20 Thread Sam Tetherow
Haven't had any problems yet, but thanks for the heads up. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless D. Ryan Spott wrote: That results in double nat... That plays hell with streaming and VPN in my area. I can always tell when someone has done that in this area because they call me to tell me how much

RE: [WISPA] Our 5.3 GHz cert is in!

2007-07-20 Thread Felix A. Lopez
Pat, I found it somewhat difficult to locate on OET website: http://www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/ Do you have a more direct weblink? Thanks, Felix --- Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, Moto's came in day before officially (posted on the OET site). Unofficially, our was completed

Re: [WISPA] T-Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-07-20 Thread Felix A. Lopez
Nice write up John. I have Sprint network with Samsung phone unfortunately locked in for 2 years. However, the T-Mobile offering looks appealing. So you had session persistance? Nice. Can you re-clarify that you did not have to re-authenticate at all? For example let's say you walk out of

RE: [WISPA] T-Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-07-20 Thread Drew Lentz
I think we are going to see an increase in the deployment of femtocells like T-Mobiles ... not just cell carriers (ATT to follow T-Mobile? http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=129159print=true) but by people trying to push content into living rooms: Today's Femtocell Headline: Google

RE: [WISPA] Our 5.3 GHz cert is in!

2007-07-20 Thread Patrick Leary
Here Felix. You can enter as few fields as you wish. If you enter frequencies, uncheck the exact match box. https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm - Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felix A. Lopez Sent: