The WISPA Board has discussed the possibility of hiring an Executive
Director to handle the day to day operations more efficiently than the 7
member volunteer board can do. One of our largest challenges is financing
this position. We are looking or ideas to help fund this position and come
up
We don't need an executive director until we decide to put on our own
show
We need a part time secretary. $10 to $15 per hour, 20 hours per week, work
from home.
Jsut someone to keep track of projects, type letters etc.
I still think dues should be based on customer base. If you have
I disagree. I think that we could use at least a part time Executive
Director. They could work on Marketing materials, Prospecting for new
members, PR, alot of what the committees do. They would facilitate the
committees. This is not what a secretary would do and an
administrative person would
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
I still think dues should be based on customer base. If you have 100 subs
you'll pay $100 per year. $400 subs, 400. 10,000 subs.. I was over
ruled on this when we first did the bylaws though.
But then you'd have to randomly audit members to ensure they were
Davis,
you'll pay $100 per year. $400 subs, 400.
But then you'd have to randomly audit members to ensure they were
accurately reporting this information. Given that some WISPs don't even
want to provide this information to the government when mandated by law,
Not at all the case. There is
Rick,
Your bullet questions, gets us off to a great start on this conversation.
Ok, based on your job description of Executive Director, what is left as a
job description for officers of the board, other than voting to
authoirize change?
This stage of growth is a scary one, because if the
Tom DeReggi wrote:
Davis,
you'll pay $100 per year. $400 subs, 400.
Let me throw in a devils advocate question here. If I have 400
customers and pay $400, do I get as many votes as an ISP with 10,000
customers who pays $10,000? If you look at this in the purely corporate
On Wed, 21 May 2008, Randy Cosby wrote:
Let me throw in a devils advocate question here. If I have 400
customers and pay $400, do I get as many votes as an ISP with
10,000 customers who pays $10,000? If you look at this in the
purely corporate sense, WISPA would be selling shares and each
I agree with Butch.
$250 per year is a drop in the bucket to all of us, no matter how big or
small, ESPECIALLY when compared to the value you receive from free advice
and support
...and I can't tell you how annoying the tell me why I should join WISPA
rants are... (ryan, I'm not talking about
Just for the record, I'm a paying member.
Mark Nash wrote:
I agree with Butch.
$250 per year is a drop in the bucket to all of us, no matter how big or
small, ESPECIALLY when compared to the value you receive from free advice
and support
...and I can't tell you how annoying the "tell
I agree with Butch. I'd suggest that this conversation be moved to the
Members list.
Butch Evans wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2008, Randy Cosby wrote:
Let me throw in a devils advocate question here. If I have 400
customers and pay $400, do I get as many votes as an ISP with
10,000
Ok, hypothetically speaking...
Part Time Salaried Executive Director-
Must be a WISP, Must live on or near Capitol Hill, Must have marketing
background
Who first pops into your mind? Martha?
Martha, Got any free time for an additional part-time job? :-)
I agree with Marlon, that an office
In the WISPA Bylaws found at http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=4 in Section 7.
We are confined by the following doctrine as written by the founding board.
There was an extensive amount of conversation at that time about insuring
that no one company would have a controlling vote or influence over the
OK, I opened this thread on this list this morning and now I am closing it
as there is a general consensus that it should be carried on only on the
Members list. If you wish to contribute to the conversation further,
confine your comments to the HYPERLINK
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Hmm,
Hey Mac. Is maximumtech.us a vendor member? If you are going to
advertise your company, shouldn't you be a vendor member?
Jim
jeffcosoho.com
linktechs.net
Mac Dearman wrote:
Jeremy Davis is the Freeside King IMHO
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Mac
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No for two reasons
1) Currently, nothing gets voted on by the membership, except elections.
Personally, I think WISPA needs to expand its resources, to bring more
things to the membership to vote on.
2) No because, it would compromise the ideals of WISPA, where WISPA
represents the
Got a situation... just received a call from the town's water dep't
administrator telling me we have to be off of the tower in 3 days due to
maintenance on tower. Evidently there is lead in the tower and a
contractor is coming in to sandblast and repaint inside and out of the
tower, as well as
PS. Sorry guys, will be on member list next time.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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Wrap your equipment in a burlap sack! Recently went through such a
situation, but NOT the 3-day notice part.
What does your contract state for such work?
On 5/21/08 2:36 PM, Patrick Nix Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Got a situation... just received a call from the town's water dep't
Sounds like you need to call the water department back and ask for the
contractor's name.
The contractor may think you are putting out 30 watts of power like a
cell provider. If so then this it is standard practice to turn that
gear off when people are working near it. Something about
What does your contract say?
Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
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From: Patrick Nix Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:36
We went through a water tower rehab. It took at least a month to blast
and paint inside and out. We were able to work with the contractor to
shroud our gear when they were working near it. Any chances you could
work with them to detach and reattach gear as they work around the tank?
The
Randy, your membership should carry the vote. Just like some of us pay more
taxes than others, we still only get one vote. (except in LA and FL) ;D
On 5/21/08 12:50 PM, Randy Cosby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tom DeReggi wrote:
Davis,
you'll pay $100 per year. $400 subs, 400.
I currently host email for a few domains as well as my own. I use a
Barracuda SPAM firewall for my own domain but not the others. Anyways I
pointed an MX record for one of the domains to the Barracuda Spam Firewall.
That domain was not getting any spam whatsoever because it was a newly
registered
Our contract states the city only has to give us 48 hours notice to be off
for water tower maintenance.
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Nix
Time to revisit your contract IMO...
On 5/21/08 3:09 PM, Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Our contract states the city only has to give us 48 hours notice to be off
for water tower maintenance.
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
No that is not the case, properly configured Barracuda's work fine.
Although I prefer the MailFoundry devices to Barracuda's at this time.
Regards
Michael Baird
I currently host email for a few domains as well as my own. I use a
Barracuda SPAM firewall for my own domain but not the others.
Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
I currently host email for a few domains as well as my own. I use a
Barracuda SPAM firewall for my own domain but not the others. Anyways I
pointed an MX record for one of the domains to the Barracuda Spam Firewall.
That domain was not getting any spam whatsoever because
Talk to a judge for an emergency injunction. That is interfering with
interstate commerce.
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From: Patrick Nix Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:36 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Watertower trouble
Got a
Getting legal involved would pretty much guarantee getting booted off
the tower completely once your current contract is up. I would talk to
them and see what can be worked out by having you work "around" their
crews.
Travis
Microserv
Chuck McCown - 2 wrote:
Talk to a judge for an
If the choice is get the town fathers ruffled or losing your business, I know
which direction I would go. An injunction only puts the project on hold to
force everyone to come and talk. I have used this method before with good
success. I would most certainly have a lawyer ready to contact a
An injunction has to have some kind of legal grounds,
and he signed a contract that clearly states 48 hours
notice.
Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
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From: Chuck McCown - 2 [EMAIL
The contract they have says the city only has to give them 48 hours...
they actually gave 72 hours. A judge is not going to grant an injunction
when they followed the contract that both parties agreed upon.
Travis
Microserv
Chuck McCown - 2 wrote:
If the choice is get the town fathers ruffled
That was Kurt, not Patrick, was it not. Are talking the same company here?
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From: Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble
An injunction has to have some
We have gone through similar, but received adequate warning and
the town worked very well with us to make sure we could get equipment
protected. If they are not willing to work with you maybe contact your
subs and get them to call the town letting them know they cannot live
without
During the injunction process (in the middle of the night with a very cranky
judge in his PJs.) the terms of the contract (that may or may not exist) are
never discussed. Only the potential for harm or damages to life or
property. If the judge believes that damage or harm may happen, they
I have had more than one occasion like this. If you ask to talk to the
tower contractors and city office holders and let them know the effect
on your business if you lose the spot they will work with you. People
are rational 99.9% of the time when I work with them respectfully and
approach them
Hi all.
Looking for a few things I need to buy... hope someone might have a few
laying around to let go...
TurboCell gear...
KN-50/51 with or without radio card.
Avaya OR-1 with or without radio card. Lucent OR firmware or TurcoCell
firmware
AP-500 with or without radio card. With or
Tom,
Good questions, I will answer your last one now. I put in on average 3
hours a day on WISPA duties.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:55 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA]
I spend about 3 hours per day also.
Scriv
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tom,
Good questions, I will answer your last one now. I put in on average 3
hours a day on WISPA duties.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL
Chuck McCown Wrote:
Talk to a judge for an emergency injunction. That is interfering with
interstate commerce.
Two issues with this approach... (1) if you are claiming an interstate
commerce issue you need to file in Federal Court (2) if you aren't crossing
state lines with your signal, then
Patrick,
Been there, doing that now! We were given 1 week notice that a large water
tower was going to be sandblasted and painted in a neighboring community.
Which really stinks because the city knew this was going to happen 6 months
ago. Luckily we found a tower at a local college where we
Be careful here...
Most judges will automatically grant an emergency injunction. However, these
normally require that you post a bond in the event the injunction was issued
in error. Then YOU may be liable for the damages YOU caused by filing the
injunction.
A temporary restraining order is
Nope, telecommunications are defacto interstate, especially internet and in
general anything that the FCC regulates.
The FCC had declared all internet communications as interstate in nature and
they have successfully kept the jurisdiction over such cases.
Federal judges are easy to find. And
Hi Blair... I don't know what board is inside them but we have about 30
Turbocell clients (Karlnet RSU's and mostly EtherAnt-Turbos).
Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
78 Centennial Loop
Suite E
Eugene, OR 97401
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
http://www.unwiredwest.com
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From:
Well, I just met with the contractors and we were able to reach an
agreement, we just have to sign a damage waiver, and be there to
move/remove equipment as needed. I am curious about the suggestion to
cover equipment with burlap, how if at all does this affect the signal,
also they will be
Dang, hate happy endings...!
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From: Patrick Nix Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble
Well, I just met with the contractors and we were able to reach an
Yes, I had to post $5000 in one case. But at 8:00 am the next morning all
parties were around the table and we had a solution by 9.
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From: Cliff LeBoeuf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 4:00 PM
Subject: Re:
Mark,
Thanks, I'd be willing to buy one just to find out. Hit me off list
with pricing and such?
Blair
Mark Nash wrote:
Hi Blair... I don't know what board is inside them but we have about 30
Turbocell clients (Karlnet RSU's and mostly EtherAnt-Turbos).
Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
78
If i deny SMTP to all but the barracudas IP then won't people not be able to
send email ?
--
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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From: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
To: WISPA General List
If i deny SMTP to all but the barracudas IP then won't people not be able
to
send email ?
Obviously you'll have to adjust your firewall rules a little bit, to match
your network. :)
I've got two separate sets of firewall rules - one that protects my mail
server from the outside world, and
David E. Smith wrote:
If i deny SMTP to all but the barracudas IP then won't people not be able
to
send email ?
Obviously you'll have to adjust your firewall rules a little bit, to match
your network. :)
All of my MX records point to machines running the same set of spam
filtering
Patrick Nix Jr. wrote:
Well, I just met with the contractors and we were able to reach an
agreement, we just have to sign a damage waiver, and be there to
move/remove equipment as needed. I am curious about the suggestion to
cover equipment with burlap, how if at all does this affect the
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 5:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble
Nope, telecommunications are defacto interstate, especially internet and in
general
Hi,
I've recently graduated with a BA in English BUT am interested in
shifting towards a career as a communications or radio technician. I
don't really know much about how to go about doing this. Any tips?
I've thought about going back to school to pursue a BS in Electrical
Engineering,
I would say if you have the time, money, desire and drive to get your BSEE,
by all means do so.
At least you already have all your general ed covered.
Normally technicians come up through the ranks, many times with various
forms of formal or semi formal education from a variety of colleges and
The only way to keep the big companies for taking over wispa is to insure
that all entities get the same vote. I matter as much as Sprint. That's
part of the magic of WISPA. We built that into the by-laws.
marlon
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From: Randy Cosby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA
One of the reasons that we have these discussions on this list is that lots
of people have good ideas. Who cares if a good idea is from a member or
not? We also want to know why people aren't joining, this is a good place
to find such things out.
marlon
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I'd start with explaining that to whoever will listen. Hopefully the
manager will, if not the mayor.
If they are working on the INSIDE of the tank, you should be ok outside.
Offer to work closely with the contractor so that you can move cables from
one side to the other as need be.
Let us
Off or turned off? There's a BIG difference.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble
Our contract states the city only has to give us
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