[WISPA] Firefox add-in

2010-02-23 Thread Steve Barnes
The company that supports us has a in-house Admin system that works really well. It is a home-grown admin system that gives us customer tracking and all. There are links on the customer record to ping the customer radio, a hyperlink to the radio IP so that it opens a new tab in windows and allo

Re: [WISPA] Firefox add-in

2010-02-23 Thread Scott Reed
Actually what is used is a IE add-in (not and .asp) that allows IE to start an executable. It is used to allow a hyperlink to start Winbox and putty. We have searched for something that will work in FireFox, but I suspect Mozilla is security conscious enough that there is no way to make it hap

Re: [WISPA] Firefox add-in

2010-02-23 Thread Nick Olsen
Maybe IE Tab will work for you guys. Basically, It uses the IE engine inside of Firefox. Good for going to sites that don't work with Firefox. (like windows update) Nick Olsen Network Engineer / Customer Support (321) 205-1100 x106 From: "Scott Reed" S

[WISPA] Short range link with DFS concerns

2010-02-23 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
I will be putting up a new 5.3 GHz link in the near future. The distance is only a few thousand feet. Normally I would use radios with integrated panel antennas, but this link is near a weather radar tower. Experience has shown that even when the radar's operating frequencies are blocked out of

[WISPA] That black magic

2010-02-23 Thread Mike
I need to do a reality check with those of you familiar with knife edge diffraction as a propagation medium. First, I should paint the scene: I have a corporate farmer almost 16 miles away who is motivated. His options are satellite, dialup he currently uses, or us. A spectrum sweep of th

Re: [WISPA] That black magic

2010-02-23 Thread Josh Luthman
To begin with, are you sure there is a bump there? Could it be bad meter resolution? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On

[WISPA] Motorola telemarketing call

2010-02-23 Thread Jeremie Chism
I guess motorola is calling wisps about there new 3650 gear which the representative said will be available in the next few weeks. Sent from my iPhone WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] That black magic

2010-02-23 Thread Mike
I have a bright beacon I can turn on at the top of this tower. On a clear night recently, I turned it on. Even a ways up a corn crib he could NOT see the light. I think the terrain data is accurate. The alphimax site, once you create the path lets you go into Google Earth and "see" the hill. T

Re: [WISPA] That black magic

2010-02-23 Thread Josh Luthman
That profile suggests at 31 feet the customer should see the light (the black LOS line). Was that where they looked for the light, or lower? I would have to guess the corn crib was not nearly 31 feet. I think the whole US has 3m and 10m data - http://www.cplus.org/rmw/dataen.html Josh Luthman O

Re: [WISPA] That black magic

2010-02-23 Thread Ryan Spott
Well, before he invests in an install, have him rent a lift truck or something to see what he can see. I have a few links that have this type of knife edge defraction. I run them using 802.11 gear (Mtik/Tranzeo). When I allowed full on access to all the speed I could provide, complaints came from

Re: [WISPA] That black magic

2010-02-23 Thread Mike
The ladder on the outside of the corn crib is probably a little less than 20 feet. I have seen the beacon close to 25 miles away. It is a bright amber rotating beacon. Yes at 31 foot, the LOS should be there, but more than half of the Fresnel zone will be impeded. -Original Message- From

Re: [WISPA] That black magic

2010-02-23 Thread jp
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 08:55:31AM -0600, Mike wrote: > I need to do a reality check with those of you familiar with knife edge > diffraction as a propagation medium. First, I should paint the scene: > > I have a corporate farmer almost 16 miles away who is motivated. His > options are satellite

Re: [WISPA] That black magic

2010-02-23 Thread Josh Luthman
I see. So at ~18 feet there is no light but at 31 you see the light, suggesting that hill is actually there and as you said, Fresnel zone is blocked. You should expect the link to be troublesome. I agree with Jason, too. Just because you can does not mean you should. Josh Luthman Office: 937-5

Re: [WISPA] That black magic

2010-02-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Wouldn't it cost more to rent a lift truck than do an install? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Ryan Spott" Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:15 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] That black magic

2010-02-23 Thread Mike Hammett
We just tore ours down, but our corn crib was 30 - 40 feet tall. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Josh Luthman" Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:11 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WI

Re: [WISPA] That black magic

2010-02-23 Thread Mike
Short squat corn crib. It has an internal ladder with no outside access, and another ladder on the outside going part way up. I have NOT verified the light is visible at 31 feet. Maybe I should have him climb it on a clear night to verify he can indeed see the light? I know I would be using kni

Re: [WISPA] That black magic

2010-02-23 Thread Mike
Josh said >> I agree with Jason, too. Just because you can does not mean you should. Columbus, or Neil Armstrong, or Edmund Hillary never said that! :-) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ ---

Re: [WISPA] That black magic

2010-02-23 Thread Steve Barnes
This is one of those times that I would have to call this a non standard install and charge the client for the effort of getting him service. I agree with others a 1/2 way repeater may be a help to other clients. Next you have to remember that if not this then probably next year Corn will be bac

Re: [WISPA] That black magic

2010-02-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Columbus was a murderer. Neil Armstrong was going to the moon. Not giving a farmer access to a global network to check weather, stocks and naughty pictures. Edmund Hillary is nuts. I would definitely start by making sure you have LOS at 31 feet. We've established you can not at ~18, but may at

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Form 477 Revisited: Not as bad as it looks

2010-02-23 Thread Brian Webster
That is good information to know and it's good to know the independent WISP's did not cause the huge drop. What this does illustrate though is that as reported, the WISP industry is still very small even when compared to satellite which is almost double in size. Hopefully with the push to get more

Re: [WISPA] That black magic

2010-02-23 Thread Chuck Profito
If he is really motivated he will help with $$ for the repeater. Anybody else who will benefit? They might too. Or raise your install cost to a few to cover the solar. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: T

Re: [WISPA] That black magic

2010-02-23 Thread Mike Hammett
I think Mike said that no one in miles would be able to get signal either, due to topography. That said, it sounds like a hell of a market to break into, once he solves how to skirt the topographical problems (tower on the hill, taller tower, etc.). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing So

[WISPA] new FCC report out

2010-02-23 Thread Matt Liotta
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-296442A1.pdf * 35% percent of americans unserved * "We need to tackle the challenge of connecting 93 million Americans to our broadband future," said FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski in a statement timed with the release of the survey. "In th

Re: [WISPA] new FCC report out

2010-02-23 Thread Patrick Leary
29% from fixed wireless. Well, that sure reveals the disconnect between the output data re form 477 filings, though I am much more inclined to weight the end customer surveys than 477 filing numbers (which we all know are way under reported). Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile ---

Re: [WISPA] new FCC report out

2010-02-23 Thread Chuck Hogg
You beat me to it. LOL http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2360263,00.asp Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:38 PM, Matt Liotta wrote: > http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-296442A1.pdf > > * 35

Re: [WISPA] new FCC report out

2010-02-23 Thread David E. Smith
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 12:56, Patrick Leary wrote: > 29% from fixed wireless. Well, that sure reveals the disconnect between > the output data re form 477 filings, though I am much more inclined to > weight the end customer surveys than 477 filing numbers (which we all > know are way under repor

Re: [WISPA] That black magic

2010-02-23 Thread David Hulsebus
Mike, Interesting you mentioned soy beans. I have a customer (900-WaveRider) who was installed for 5 yrs next to a corn field. The crop was replaced with soy beans this past year and a month before harvest, as the beans dried out, we started having signal fluctuation issues. We raised the ante

Re: [WISPA] Motorola telemarketing call

2010-02-23 Thread Eric Muehleisen
It is currently in Beta. I would expect it to start shipping around the first part of April. -Eric On 2/23/2010 9:03 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote: > I guess motorola is calling wisps about there new 3650 gear which the > representative said will be available in the next few weeks. > > Sent from my iP

Re: [WISPA] Motorola telemarketing call

2010-02-23 Thread MDK
Yeah, I got their @#$% spam call this morning, as well. The caller was nice enough, but the questions, gads. They wanted to know if I was "interested in WiMax". My exact response was "Don't you think that's a vague question?". Really, the call was a rather generic "cold calling for leads"

Re: [WISPA] That black magic

2010-02-23 Thread Mike
900 MHz doesn't work well around here. The farmers have deployed GPS navigation systems using those frequencies. Was the bean path you had NLOS? I'm curious what effects it had. I have seen a four foot change in elevation work like black magic. I think the beans get to blowing in the breeze an

[WISPA] Route optimization and scheduling software

2010-02-23 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
Looking for software to efficiently schedule/route surveys, maintenance, installations, special projects etc. based upon proximity and urgency. Most of what I've seen is geared for larger firms - thanks in advance. `S ---

Re: [WISPA] Route optimization and scheduling software

2010-02-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Travis' GPS thing sounds like what you want. Haven't seen it but from what I recall it's ideal for your request. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.”

Re: [WISPA] That black magic

2010-02-23 Thread Scottie Arnett
If he is adamant, I would do an analysis with something like radio mobile and keep adding height to his end to get the best result of the analysis. Then, depending on how high he needs to go, suggest buying a tower that is at that height. A single SU would not need more than rg25 with guides sin

Re: [WISPA] That black magic

2010-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
First off, with a LEGAL base station AP running 36dB (I used 24db radio with 12dB sector as an example) you should see a -73 at 16 miles. Personally, to help avoid interference, I use 30dB or so ap power and run 24dB grids at anything past 8 miles. Things run pretty well this way. Multipath is

[WISPA] Clear

2010-02-23 Thread Mike Hammett
In looking at Clear's web site, they have a green for areas that are covered now and a dark grey for future coverage. Does anyone know how quickly they expect to fill that coverage? How quickly they'll expand beyond their future coverage? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions ht

Re: [WISPA] That black magic

2010-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Good point. We do a lot of those these days. marlon - Original Message - From: "jp" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] That black magic > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 08:55:31AM -0600, Mike wrote: >> I need to do a reality check with tho

Re: [WISPA] Clear

2010-02-23 Thread Jayson Baker
I haven't seen their site, but I know they've been sniffing around Colorado Springs quite a bit the last year. I think they're getting ready to make a move. On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > In looking at Clear's web site, they have a green for areas that are > covered now a

[WISPA] We now have an idea of how big the WISP industry is........

2010-02-23 Thread Brian Webster
I had a chance to update the National WISP Coverage map. It had been over a year since the last version. Matt Larsen had sent me the latest zip code list from the WISP Directory and I had a few other updates from various WISP's that were added in this run. In this version I took the steps to tabula

[WISPA] Lauderdale Lakes FL

2010-02-23 Thread Greg
Anyone service this area? Thanks! Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org