Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
Ok, I think we finally fixed it. It was only happening when it was hot becauseof a loose wire. The PS that came from Trango already had the power connector on it, so we didn't check the set screws that hold the wires into the connector. While I was troubleshooting today, one of the wires fell out. Both set screws were so loose, I'm suprised they stayed in long enough for us to mount the equipment. I tightened them down, and the problem seems to be solved. Cheers, Kevin - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble Sure its possible to have a radio that is failing. All I can say isthe easiest and quickest thing to do is to 100% rule out everything else. I have to admit, I jumped to think I had a bad radio twice, even go the replacements shipped, and both times it ended up being cabling after all. The Apexes are pretty solid. There are so many possible ways CAT5 can go bad. And I know, the odds of two cables going bad, (the management and Data) doesn't sound likey, but its possible. the APEX can be powered up by ether management or data cable. You might want to try powering from the other one. For cable damage, the big things are corrosion on the pins, or a bad crimp to one of the pins. Those things are hard to spot, and dont always surface for 6 months or so.. Cable blows in the wind, link goes down, or overheats or shuts down because not getting enough current or to much while shorting out. Now when the APEXs first came out (like the first batch) there was a manufacturering flaw with a part that I think effected Ethernet life, but Trango proactively recalled them, like days after they shipped, and gave free repairs on it. (I was impressed, very responsibly done) But that was ages ago. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Kevin Sullivan kevin.sulli...@alyrica.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble It's been running six months without a dropped packet. Cable run is ~100 feet, maybe a little less. We were powering it over the data port, but we switched to the management port today. We checked the power output on the PS, and with the power supply plugged into the power injector, but the radio not actually working, we got -47.8v. That makes me think it is unlikely to be an actual power supply issue. I'm starting to wonder if it is heat related somehow. The problem started at around 10:00am today, and now that it's nearing six and cooling down, the link came back up and started working fine. I can't think what else it would be related to... maybe the power injector doesn't like it when it gets warm? I have a new power injector coming from Trango -- I'm thinking maybe the current power injector has a bad component that doesn't react well to heat. Kevin - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble How long have you had the link installed? How long is the Ethernet cable that you are running the PoE on? Are you powering the unit over the management port or the data port? We had trouble keeping an Apex unit powered up some time ago. It would run for 15min to an hour and then stop. Turned out even though the Ethernet cable was only 250-260' we determined we need to power the unit via a shorter cable run. Once we did that the problem hasn't arisen again since. The odd thing is we have several Apex radios running without trouble on cables even longer than the 250-260' cable this unit was running on. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble Hello, We have an 11ghz Trango APEX link up for one of our incoming lines, and it went down this morning. There is no link light on either the managment or traffic port on one end. We unplugged-and-replugged the power on it, and it came back up for fifteen to twenty minutes, then crashed again. I've been trying to get a hold of Trango tech support, but so far it's been several hours and I just keep getting voice mail. Has anyone else seen anything like this? Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
Ha! Good to hear and you have to love the simple fix! Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 2:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble Ok, I think we finally fixed it. It was only happening when it was hot becauseof a loose wire. The PS that came from Trango already had the power connector on it, so we didn't check the set screws that hold the wires into the connector. While I was troubleshooting today, one of the wires fell out. Both set screws were so loose, I'm suprised they stayed in long enough for us to mount the equipment. I tightened them down, and the problem seems to be solved. Cheers, Kevin - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble Sure its possible to have a radio that is failing. All I can say isthe easiest and quickest thing to do is to 100% rule out everything else. I have to admit, I jumped to think I had a bad radio twice, even go the replacements shipped, and both times it ended up being cabling after all. The Apexes are pretty solid. There are so many possible ways CAT5 can go bad. And I know, the odds of two cables going bad, (the management and Data) doesn't sound likey, but its possible. the APEX can be powered up by ether management or data cable. You might want to try powering from the other one. For cable damage, the big things are corrosion on the pins, or a bad crimp to one of the pins. Those things are hard to spot, and dont always surface for 6 months or so.. Cable blows in the wind, link goes down, or overheats or shuts down because not getting enough current or to much while shorting out. Now when the APEXs first came out (like the first batch) there was a manufacturering flaw with a part that I think effected Ethernet life, but Trango proactively recalled them, like days after they shipped, and gave free repairs on it. (I was impressed, very responsibly done) But that was ages ago. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Kevin Sullivan kevin.sulli...@alyrica.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble It's been running six months without a dropped packet. Cable run is ~100 feet, maybe a little less. We were powering it over the data port, but we switched to the management port today. We checked the power output on the PS, and with the power supply plugged into the power injector, but the radio not actually working, we got -47.8v. That makes me think it is unlikely to be an actual power supply issue. I'm starting to wonder if it is heat related somehow. The problem started at around 10:00am today, and now that it's nearing six and cooling down, the link came back up and started working fine. I can't think what else it would be related to... maybe the power injector doesn't like it when it gets warm? I have a new power injector coming from Trango -- I'm thinking maybe the current power injector has a bad component that doesn't react well to heat. Kevin - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble How long have you had the link installed? How long is the Ethernet cable that you are running the PoE on? Are you powering the unit over the management port or the data port? We had trouble keeping an Apex unit powered up some time ago. It would run for 15min to an hour and then stop. Turned out even though the Ethernet cable was only 250-260' we determined we need to power the unit via a shorter cable run. Once we did that the problem hasn't arisen again since. The odd thing is we have several Apex radios running without trouble on cables even longer than the 250-260' cable this unit was running on. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble Hello, We have an 11ghz Trango APEX link up for one of our incoming lines, and it went down this morning. There is no link light on either the managment or traffic port on one end. We unplugged-and-replugged the power on it, and it came back up for fifteen to twenty minutes, then crashed again. I've been trying to get a hold of Trango tech support, but so far it's been several hours and I just keep getting voice mail. Has anyone else seen anything like this? Thanks, Kevin
Re: [WISPA] TW Form Letter Broadband Stimulus Dispute
Have a link to one of the disputes you could share ? -- Original Message -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 01:01:41 -0400 I've been reading some of the disputes to the Broadband Grants and I see Time Warner sending the same form letter dispute to every area that they might touch for even a fraction. Is this the M.O. of these large telecoms? Even if they don't provide service to the entire area, and never will, to try to poison the water for anyone else? And out of all the ones I see TW disputing, I haven't found one application to be granted. I get it, but still, I just don't get it. Venting. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] and you think we have it bad
Oh this is a shame. My heart goes out to their families. These men, as all tower crews, risk their necks on a daily basis for this technology. It is a shame that they should be targeted like this. ~V~ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 7:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] and you think we have it bad http://www.wirelessestimator.com/breaking_news.cfm Entire tower crew killed Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hamvention
That is a myth. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 01:36:07 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hamvention You can't use a fiberglass omni at the top of a tower and expect it to survive a strike unless it has a copper groundrod built inside of it protruding from the top in which it was designed to take a strike. Learned this from various HAM radio operators. Only 2.4ghz omni I know of that has a metal frame and can survive direct strikes are slotted waveguides such as the various H-POL omni's you see. If I'm going to use a VPOL omni I make sure I'm not the tallest guy on the tower. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 11:16 PM To: wa4...@arrl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hamvention Ya, the pop (pun intended:) is growing so hopefully it gets sectors soon! On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Leon D. Zetekoff wa4...@backwoodswireless.net wrote: On 05/16/2010 07:08 PM, RickG wrote: I'm sorry Bob! I was slacking all night on a water tank after it took a direct hit. Picture of omni attached. Even with LP in place, it melted the cabling down to the enclosure and burned up everything in it! I got it back up running by dropping temporary cables down the side of the tower. A dozen man hours later - it's all new. Maybe next year! We had a multi-band comet VHF/UHF for our club repeater on the top of a 10 story building in Coral Springs a number of years ago and it got blown apart similarly. They work good but explode like that when hit. Leon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Insurance carriers (I need one)
http://www.towerinsurance.net/ Ask for David Saul. David is recognized quickly by any of the tower companies, and completely trusted. I believe he can take care of all your needs. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 9:59 AM Subject: [WISPA] Insurance carriers (I need one) I'm having a hard time finding someone to insure us for the requirements below... Employer's liability insurance in an amount not less than $1,000,000 each occurrence. Commercial General Liability (including completed operations and contractual liability) on an occurrence basis with limits of not less than $5,000,000 per occurrence which can be achieved through a combination of primary and excess liability (umbrella) policies. Comprehensive form automobile liability covering owned, hired and non-owned vehicles with limits of not less than $5,000,000 combined single limit each accident which can be achieved through a combination of primary and excess liability (umbrella) policies. All-risk or special causes of loss property insurance covering the Site Equipment and appurtenant personal property for full replacement cost. All policies required hereunder shall be written by an insurer having a policyholder rating (Best Rating) of at least A- or better and be assigned a financial size category of at least Class VIII as rated in the most recent edition of Best's Key Rating Guide for insurance companies, and be authorized to do business within the State of FL. Such commercial general liability and property insurance policies shall name Licensor and the Site Manager (and such other parties as Licensor may reasonably specify from time to time) as additional insureds. Anyone have any suggestions of a carrier that understands our industry and the fact that an antenna on a building or tower would probably never cause any claims to be submitted... Just there cause the lessor needs the paperwork. Thanks. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TW Form Letter Broadband Stimulus Dispute
No CCI listed yet. ~V~ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 9:16 AM To: spie...@avolve.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] TW Form Letter Broadband Stimulus Dispute Certainly. There are lots and lots of them. They almost all claim that they already provide service to 50% of the households covered in the application. However, TW is never going to provide service to those who are not already served by them unless the population increases many fold and if someone in their service area wants to switch to me, I won't take them because it's probably due to them not paying their TW bill. I guess the lesson I take from this is that if there is another round of funding, don't include any census block that has Cable or Telco broadband available in any part of it. With that said, I see the value in filing a dispute. I could just borrow the TW form. http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/applications/responses/10pnr.pdf http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/applications/responses/25pnr.pdf http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/applications/responses/125pnr.pdf http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/applications/responses/376pnr.pdf http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/applications/responses/1184pnr.pdf And I know this guy http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/applications/responses/1996pnr.pdf His area is all hills, valleys and lots of trees. Sparse population. TW covers 50%. Maybe in the only small town there. And my buddy Larry next door... http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/applications/responses/2743pnr.pdf He covers many square miles with no TW but he does overlap into the city and I'm sure that was included in the census block. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TW Form Letter Broadband Stimulus Dispute Have a link to one of the disputes you could share ? -- Original Message -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 01:01:41 -0400 I've been reading some of the disputes to the Broadband Grants and I see Time Warner sending the same form letter dispute to every area that they might touch for even a fraction. Is this the M.O. of these large telecoms? Even if they don't provide service to the entire area, and never will, to try to poison the water for anyone else? And out of all the ones I see TW disputing, I haven't found one application to be granted. I get it, but still, I just don't get it. Venting. Bob- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TW Form Letter Broadband Stimulus Dispute
Yeah, I started looking around for that as well. Must not be sorted out and posted yet. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 11:28 AM To: 'WISPA General List'; spie...@avolve.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] TW Form Letter Broadband Stimulus Dispute No CCI listed yet. ~V~ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 9:16 AM To: spie...@avolve.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] TW Form Letter Broadband Stimulus Dispute Certainly. There are lots and lots of them. They almost all claim that they already provide service to 50% of the households covered in the application. However, TW is never going to provide service to those who are not already served by them unless the population increases many fold and if someone in their service area wants to switch to me, I won't take them because it's probably due to them not paying their TW bill. I guess the lesson I take from this is that if there is another round of funding, don't include any census block that has Cable or Telco broadband available in any part of it. With that said, I see the value in filing a dispute. I could just borrow the TW form. http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/applications/responses/10pnr.pdf http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/applications/responses/25pnr.pdf http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/applications/responses/125pnr.pdf http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/applications/responses/376pnr.pdf http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/applications/responses/1184pnr.pdf And I know this guy http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/applications/responses/1996pnr.pdf His area is all hills, valleys and lots of trees. Sparse population. TW covers 50%. Maybe in the only small town there. And my buddy Larry next door... http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/applications/responses/2743pnr.pdf He covers many square miles with no TW but he does overlap into the city and I'm sure that was included in the census block. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TW Form Letter Broadband Stimulus Dispute Have a link to one of the disputes you could share ? -- Original Message -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 01:01:41 -0400 I've been reading some of the disputes to the Broadband Grants and I see Time Warner sending the same form letter dispute to every area that they might touch for even a fraction. Is this the M.O. of these large telecoms? Even if they don't provide service to the entire area, and never will, to try to poison the water for anyone else? And out of all the ones I see TW disputing, I haven't found one application to be granted. I get it, but still, I just don't get it. Venting. Bob- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join
Re: [WISPA] Rad-Win 2000 firmware upgrades
*UPDATE* The new 2.4.50 firmware does work with hardware version 3. It does not make any performance increase, that only happens for Hardware version 4. It is more sensitive on the Ethernet Cable side and best to hard code to FDX. The issue I had was that the router was hard coded FDX but the Radwin was auto and it was falling to half some of the time and loosing connection. Sounds like I may have a questionable crimp. Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Rad-Win 2000 firmware upgrades Danger, Will Robinson, Danger. For those of you who have the Rad-Win 2000 series and are looking forward to the firmware upgrade to take them to 100Mb Fdx. Be careful. The firmware came out and I (stupidly) applied it. IT went on without a hitch and rebooted the radios. They came up and started passing traffic. No improvement in speed (rats). Then one end locked up. I rebooted it and it started working. HMMM! That's concerning. 1hour later the other end locked up. Hmmm! Call Tech support. They had me do a hardware Inventory and found out that my Rad-wins are hardware version 3 the upgrade was for hardware version 4 and above. Nowhere did it state this and nowhere did the firmware updater check to make sure that I had new enough units. Why did the firmware go on in the first place if they weren't compatible? Now tech support is working on how to downgrade. What I get for wanting more for free and not waiting for more testing. P.S. I love my Rad-Win units. They have worked 110% of the time and very consistent. Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 02:36:52PM -0700, Mark Nash wrote: I hope to have a resolution soon, or we will be switching 1000+ users to another provider. Anyone who's done that knows the undertaking it will be, but we will do it nevertheless. Moving the mailboxes is not so bad. Getting the webmail address books, that's the fun part. We just moved 400 accounts, from a recently aquired domain, off everyone.net to our servers. I have an shell script which uses imapsync which does the e-mail part quite nicely, imap server to imap server. We use Cyrus-IMAPd, but it shouldn't matter much which imap server you run. The address books will take some manual effort. But, you can print each address book from everyone.net's fancy webmail view, copy and paste it into a text file and run a script to convert it into whatever format you need. We shoved it into the squirrelmail address book database. It just takes a lot of hours to log in and do the copy and paste. If you decide you need to do it and want the scripts, let me know. I'll see if I can abstract out the sensitive information. -- Scott LambertKC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lamb...@lambertfam.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rad-Win 2000 firmware upgrades
Hardcoding one side of an ethernet link to 100/FDX and leaving the other on autonegotiate will result in a duplex mismatch due to the way the autonegotiation works. Cisco has a nice article about this: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps700/products_tech_note09186a00800a7af0.shtml Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Steve Barnes wrote: *UPDATE* The new 2.4.50 firmware does work with hardware version 3. It does not make any performance increase, that only happens for Hardware version 4. It is more sensitive on the Ethernet Cable side and best to hard code to FDX. The issue I had was that the router was hard coded FDX but the Radwin was auto and it was falling to half some of the time and loosing connection. Sounds like I may have a questionable crimp. Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Rad-Win 2000 firmware upgrades Danger, Will Robinson, Danger. For those of you who have the Rad-Win 2000 series and are looking forward to the firmware upgrade to take them to 100Mb Fdx. Be careful. The firmware came out and I (stupidly) applied it. IT went on without a hitch and rebooted the radios. They came up and started passing traffic. No improvement in speed (rats). Then one end locked up. I rebooted it and it started working. HMMM! That's concerning. 1hour later the other end locked up. Hmmm! Call Tech support. They had me do a hardware Inventory and found out that my Rad-wins are hardware version 3 the upgrade was for hardware version 4 and above. Nowhere did it state this and nowhere did the firmware updater check to make sure that I had new enough units. Why did the firmware go on in the first place if they weren't compatible? Now tech support is working on how to downgrade. What I get for wanting more for free and not waiting for more testing. P.S. I love my Rad-Win units. They have worked 110% of the time and very consistent. Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers
Yes, address books. They are a pain. We migrated about 900 accounts TO the Everyone.Net servers last year. From 2 very different mail servers, about 40 domains. Address books were a pain in the rear. Then there was the 2 users that were actually using the Calendar feature of one of the servers. We told them sorry, it's gone. ;) - Original Message - From: Scott Lambert lamb...@lambertfam.org To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 02:36:52PM -0700, Mark Nash wrote: I hope to have a resolution soon, or we will be switching 1000+ users to another provider. Anyone who's done that knows the undertaking it will be, but we will do it nevertheless. Moving the mailboxes is not so bad. Getting the webmail address books, that's the fun part. We just moved 400 accounts, from a recently aquired domain, off everyone.net to our servers. I have an shell script which uses imapsync which does the e-mail part quite nicely, imap server to imap server. We use Cyrus-IMAPd, but it shouldn't matter much which imap server you run. The address books will take some manual effort. But, you can print each address book from everyone.net's fancy webmail view, copy and paste it into a text file and run a script to convert it into whatever format you need. We shoved it into the squirrelmail address book database. It just takes a lot of hours to log in and do the copy and paste. If you decide you need to do it and want the scripts, let me know. I'll see if I can abstract out the sensitive information. -- Scott LambertKC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lamb...@lambertfam.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hamvention
On 5/17/2010 10:23 AM, Blake Bowers wrote: If you have a copper ground rod in the radome then you make the antenna both directional, and subject to a high VSWR. Radome antennas like the one pictured do splinter - it is one of those LMR facts of life. ANY antenna subject to a direct strike can be damaged. The best antenna I have ever used for LMR is a DB224, the design of which makes it totally unacceptable for WISP work. (Unless you have a two way radio system in your installers trucks LOL) http://www.wiscointl.com/decibel/dipoles/db224.htm This is the same style of antenna that dot many of the old ATT long lines towers across the country - I have never found one bad at one of the ATT sites. For that matter, my MCI sites had radome antennas like the one pictured, no copper ground rod going up through the antenna (I can't even find one like that after some checking around) and I never found one of those bad either. That is a testament to proper grounding techniques, and a good ground system at the base. Lightning could really care less about your location on the tower. Often times antennas on the side, half way down the tower will be destroyed, and a similar antenna on the top is fine. http://www.polyphaser.com/ when it was privately owned had a fantastic book - the grounds for lightning protection. The owner had spent his life working in the field, and packed that knowledge into the book. If you ever have a chance to get it - do so. Another great source, but less info as to the WHY, is Motorola R-56 standards. EVERYONE should have a copy - there is more knowledge stuffed into that book than the encyclpedia, when it comes to installing equipment at a tower site. Bottom line - if lightning wants your antenna, it matters not where it is located on the tower. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauserk...@wavelinc.com To:lakel...@gbcx.net; 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hamvention Which part is a myth? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 8:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hamvention That is a myth. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Kurt Fankhauserk...@wavelinc.com Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 01:36:07 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hamvention You can't use a fiberglass omni at the top of a tower and expect it to survive a strike unless it has a copper groundrod built inside of it protruding from the top in which it was designed to take a strike. Learned this from various HAM radio operators. Only 2.4ghz omni I know of that has a metal frame and can survive direct strikes are slotted waveguides such as the various H-POL omni's you see. If I'm going to use a VPOL omni I make sure I'm not the tallest guy on the tower. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 11:16 PM To: wa4...@arrl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hamvention Ya, the pop (pun intended:) is growing so hopefully it gets sectors soon! On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Leon D. Zetekoff wa4...@backwoodswireless.net wrote: On 05/16/2010 07:08 PM, RickG wrote: I'm sorry Bob! I was slacking all night on a water tank after it took a direct hit. Picture of omni attached. Even with LP in place, it melted the cabling down to the enclosure and burned up everything in it! I got it back up running by dropping temporary cables down the side of the tower. A dozen man hours later - it's all new. Maybe next year! We had a multi-band comet VHF/UHF for our club repeater on the top of a 10 story building in Coral Springs a number of years ago and it got blown apart similarly. They work good but explode like that when hit. Leon I believe the Comet I mentioned was s VHF only - don't remember. It was replaced with a folded dipole array like was pictured. Eventually, after I moved to PA, it was replaced with a VHF staionmaster. Even with good grounding, lighting will do it's damage. I don't believe our antenna got a direct strike but very close. It must have hit the building possibly even the antenna. What makes me think not is the repeater stuff still worked fine once we put up a new antenna. Good grounding is a must as is good protection. Leon WA4ZLW No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2878 - Release Date: 05/16/10 14:26:00
[WISPA] WISPA classifieds?
Hello, I've asked before, but I still haven't got an answer. Does WISPA have any online classifieds for used WISP equipment? I'm looking for a licensed link, and I have mountains of Trango 5800(-d), Trango 900, Tranzeo, and a few Trango ATLAS backhaul units I'd like liquidate. (I've also got a HUGE pile of Raylink, alvarion 900, and SmartBridges, but I'll probably have to just haul those to the dump). I'm thinking of throwing up a classifieds page for WISPs, but I really don't want to duplicate, if someone else already has one. Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA classifieds?
DSLreports has a fairly active classifieds section under their forum for WISPs. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Kevin Sullivan kevin.sulli...@alyrica.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 16:53:20 -0700 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] WISPA classifieds? Hello, I've asked before, but I still haven't got an answer. Does WISPA have any online classifieds for used WISP equipment? I'm looking for a licensed link, and I have mountains of Trango 5800(-d), Trango 900, Tranzeo, and a few Trango ATLAS backhaul units I'd like liquidate. (I've also got a HUGE pile of Raylink, alvarion 900, and SmartBridges, but I'll probably have to just haul those to the dump). I'm thinking of throwing up a classifieds page for WISPs, but I really don't want to duplicate, if someone else already has one. Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA classifieds?
No reason as a WISPA member that you could'ent add a buy/sell page to the wiki. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 6:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] WISPA classifieds? Hello, I've asked before, but I still haven't got an answer. Does WISPA have any online classifieds for used WISP equipment? I'm looking for a licensed link, and I have mountains of Trango 5800(-d), Trango 900, Tranzeo, and a few Trango ATLAS backhaul units I'd like liquidate. (I've also got a HUGE pile of Raylink, alvarion 900, and SmartBridges, but I'll probably have to just haul those to the dump). I'm thinking of throwing up a classifieds page for WISPs, but I really don't want to duplicate, if someone else already has one. Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Insurance carriers (I need one)
www.selectiveinsurance.com I've been very happy with them for several years now. With that said, I've never had a claim. Maybe the better question is: Who is happy with their insurance company AFTER they've had a claim? -RickG On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I'm having a hard time finding someone to insure us for the requirements below... Employer's liability insurance in an amount not less than $1,000,000 each occurrence. Commercial General Liability (including completed operations and contractual liability) on an occurrence basis with limits of not less than $5,000,000 per occurrence which can be achieved through a combination of primary and excess liability (umbrella) policies. Comprehensive form automobile liability covering owned, hired and non-owned vehicles with limits of not less than $5,000,000 combined single limit each accident which can be achieved through a combination of primary and excess liability (umbrella) policies. All-risk or special causes of loss property insurance covering the Site Equipment and appurtenant personal property for full replacement cost. All policies required hereunder shall be written by an insurer having a policyholder rating (Best Rating) of at least A- or better and be assigned a financial size category of at least Class VIII as rated in the most recent edition of Best's Key Rating Guide for insurance companies, and be authorized to do business within the State of FL. Such commercial general liability and property insurance policies shall name Licensor and the Site Manager (and such other parties as Licensor may reasonably specify from time to time) as additional insureds. Anyone have any suggestions of a carrier that understands our industry and the fact that an antenna on a building or tower would probably never cause any claims to be submitted... Just there cause the lessor needs the paperwork. Thanks. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hamvention
I dont expect anything to survive a direct hit. I've had dozens of these on towers since 2004 and this is the first one to get it. Not too bad! On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: You can't use a fiberglass omni at the top of a tower and expect it to survive a strike unless it has a copper groundrod built inside of it protruding from the top in which it was designed to take a strike. Learned this from various HAM radio operators. Only 2.4ghz omni I know of that has a metal frame and can survive direct strikes are slotted waveguides such as the various H-POL omni's you see. If I'm going to use a VPOL omni I make sure I'm not the tallest guy on the tower. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 11:16 PM To: wa4...@arrl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hamvention Ya, the pop (pun intended:) is growing so hopefully it gets sectors soon! On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Leon D. Zetekoff wa4...@backwoodswireless.net wrote: On 05/16/2010 07:08 PM, RickG wrote: I'm sorry Bob! I was slacking all night on a water tank after it took a direct hit. Picture of omni attached. Even with LP in place, it melted the cabling down to the enclosure and burned up everything in it! I got it back up running by dropping temporary cables down the side of the tower. A dozen man hours later - it's all new. Maybe next year! We had a multi-band comet VHF/UHF for our club repeater on the top of a 10 story building in Coral Springs a number of years ago and it got blown apart similarly. They work good but explode like that when hit. Leon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA classifieds?
Kevin, I just loaded a widget to the WISPA website which will allow classified ads. I am no expert at setting this stuff up, so this may be a temporary trial. I would appreciate assistance from other board members or wordpress experts. So, test it, try it, but don't abuse it. It may take some time to perfect the layout, so please be patient and feel free to send your suggestions. http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2297 Respectfully, Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] WISPA classifieds? Hello, I've asked before, but I still haven't got an answer. Does WISPA have any online classifieds for used WISP equipment? I'm looking for a licensed link, and I have mountains of Trango 5800(-d), Trango 900, Tranzeo, and a few Trango ATLAS backhaul units I'd like liquidate. (I've also got a HUGE pile of Raylink, alvarion 900, and SmartBridges, but I'll probably have to just haul those to the dump). I'm thinking of throwing up a classifieds page for WISPs, but I really don't want to duplicate, if someone else already has one. Thanks, Kevin --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA classifieds?
This brings up another point. What do you do with old gear that just plain isn't worth keeping? Its taking up valuable space and you can't even give it away so the landfill is looking like its final resting place. I have been thinking lately of using my old TR-CPE-200's as clay pigeons but then I would have to go clean up the mess.. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] WISPA classifieds? Hello, I've asked before, but I still haven't got an answer. Does WISPA have any online classifieds for used WISP equipment? I'm looking for a licensed link, and I have mountains of Trango 5800(-d), Trango 900, Tranzeo, and a few Trango ATLAS backhaul units I'd like liquidate. (I've also got a HUGE pile of Raylink, alvarion 900, and SmartBridges, but I'll probably have to just haul those to the dump). I'm thinking of throwing up a classifieds page for WISPs, but I really don't want to duplicate, if someone else already has one. Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA classifieds?
Rick - if you want some help - please hit me off list. First thing I noticed is the form - when you want to add an add - a user must scroll down to find the options ... I have done a good amount with WordPress, Typo3 and Drupal - to name a few systems Happy to help Glenn On May 17, 2010, at 11:22 PM, Rick Harnish wrote: Kevin, I just loaded a widget to the WISPA website which will allow classified ads. I am no expert at setting this stuff up, so this may be a temporary trial. I would appreciate assistance from other board members or wordpress experts. So, test it, try it, but don't abuse it. It may take some time to perfect the layout, so please be patient and feel free to send your suggestions. http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2297 Respectfully, Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] WISPA classifieds? Hello, I've asked before, but I still haven't got an answer. Does WISPA have any online classifieds for used WISP equipment? I'm looking for a licensed link, and I have mountains of Trango 5800(-d), Trango 900, Tranzeo, and a few Trango ATLAS backhaul units I'd like liquidate. (I've also got a HUGE pile of Raylink, alvarion 900, and SmartBridges, but I'll probably have to just haul those to the dump). I'm thinking of throwing up a classifieds page for WISPs, but I really don't want to duplicate, if someone else already has one. Thanks, Kevin --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA classifieds?
Glenn, I would appreciate the help. I am concerned about setting up a rule set as well. It would help if someone could research some other classified ad sites and their rules and come up with a document that will work in the WISP industry. Then it should go to the bo...@wispa.org email address for approval. This is entirely a test, the Board has not approved it yet. So, we need to establish the classified rules and clean up the format and most of all, make it low overhead from a labor perspective. I know the widget has payment options, but I turned those off. Longer term, it might be nice if a certain percentage of each sale was given to WISPA to help our efforts and stimulate the income side of our budget. Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 11:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA classifieds? Rick - if you want some help - please hit me off list. First thing I noticed is the form - when you want to add an add - a user must scroll down to find the options ... I have done a good amount with WordPress, Typo3 and Drupal - to name a few systems Happy to help Glenn On May 17, 2010, at 11:22 PM, Rick Harnish wrote: Kevin, I just loaded a widget to the WISPA website which will allow classified ads. I am no expert at setting this stuff up, so this may be a temporary trial. I would appreciate assistance from other board members or wordpress experts. So, test it, try it, but don't abuse it. It may take some time to perfect the layout, so please be patient and feel free to send your suggestions. http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2297 Respectfully, Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] WISPA classifieds? Hello, I've asked before, but I still haven't got an answer. Does WISPA have any online classifieds for used WISP equipment? I'm looking for a licensed link, and I have mountains of Trango 5800(-d), Trango 900, Tranzeo, and a few Trango ATLAS backhaul units I'd like liquidate. (I've also got a HUGE pile of Raylink, alvarion 900, and SmartBridges, but I'll probably have to just haul those to the dump). I'm thinking of throwing up a classifieds page for WISPs, but I really don't want to duplicate, if someone else already has one. Thanks, Kevin --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA classifieds?
What about sending the equipment to these relief projects like in Haiti? While this stuff may not be worth a production WISP environment, in a place like that it would be worth its weight in gold. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 11:27 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA classifieds? This brings up another point. What do you do with old gear that just plain isn't worth keeping? Its taking up valuable space and you can't even give it away so the landfill is looking like its final resting place. I have been thinking lately of using my old TR-CPE-200's as clay pigeons but then I would have to go clean up the mess.. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] WISPA classifieds? Hello, I've asked before, but I still haven't got an answer. Does WISPA have any online classifieds for used WISP equipment? I'm looking for a licensed link, and I have mountains of Trango 5800(-d), Trango 900, Tranzeo, and a few Trango ATLAS backhaul units I'd like liquidate. (I've also got a HUGE pile of Raylink, alvarion 900, and SmartBridges, but I'll probably have to just haul those to the dump). I'm thinking of throwing up a classifieds page for WISPs, but I really don't want to duplicate, if someone else already has one. Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Times Microwave tools for LMR 400...
I am looking for the following: EZ-400-NMH-D Connector CCT-01 Tool (cutter) ST-400EZ tool (cable Prep tool) DBT-U (deburr tool) HX4 Tool (crimp tool) Separately or in a kit... Does anyone have a favorite Vendor? I saw one vendor selling a kit for LMR400/600 with all of the above parts. They wanted over $1000 for it! The 'EZ-Crimp connectors look like the way to go, but other advice is appreciated. ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA classifieds?
I recently helped a project rebuild (United Methodist Church www.COR.org ) in Haiti The challenges are more than just not having the radio... sadly Hit me off list if you want some details - sad how difficult and expensive it is to help them rebuild due to the controls in place to just bill the heck out of ya. In a major city - a capitol city no less of 3 million + people - there are no paved roads. Infrastructure seems almost as though it is in place to keep folks down from what I understand... Either way - I know a group that would love the equipment to begin helping rebuild the schools and such for sure On May 17, 2010, at 11:50 PM, Brian Webster wrote: What about sending the equipment to these relief projects like in Haiti? While this stuff may not be worth a production WISP environment, in a place like that it would be worth its weight in gold. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 11:27 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA classifieds? This brings up another point. What do you do with old gear that just plain isn't worth keeping? Its taking up valuable space and you can't even give it away so the landfill is looking like its final resting place. I have been thinking lately of using my old TR-CPE-200's as clay pigeons but then I would have to go clean up the mess.. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] WISPA classifieds? Hello, I've asked before, but I still haven't got an answer. Does WISPA have any online classifieds for used WISP equipment? I'm looking for a licensed link, and I have mountains of Trango 5800(-d), Trango 900, Tranzeo, and a few Trango ATLAS backhaul units I'd like liquidate. (I've also got a HUGE pile of Raylink, alvarion 900, and SmartBridges, but I'll probably have to just haul those to the dump). I'm thinking of throwing up a classifieds page for WISPs, but I really don't want to duplicate, if someone else already has one. Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA classifieds?
Check out the rules/etc. On how Craigslist runs their classifieds. Some things that come to mind 1. Have the ads expire after 30 days or some time frame. This is more of a software thing. Keeps the ads relevant. 2.Limit to equipment. No services. 3.Require certain things such as price, location, and terms. 4.Resellers should not be allowed to post -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 23:44:56 -0400 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA classifieds? Glenn, I would appreciate the help. I am concerned about setting up a rule set as well. It would help if someone could research some other classified ad sites and their rules and come up with a document that will work in the WISP industry. Then it should go to the bo...@wispa.org email address for approval. This is entirely a test, the Board has not approved it yet. So, we need to establish the classified rules and clean up the format and most of all, make it low overhead from a labor perspective. I know the widget has payment options, but I turned those off. Longer term, it might be nice if a certain percentage of each sale was given to WISPA to help our efforts and stimulate the income side of our budget. Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 11:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA classifieds? Rick - if you want some help - please hit me off list. First thing I noticed is the form - when you want to add an add - a user must scroll down to find the options ... I have done a good amount with WordPress, Typo3 and Drupal - to name a few systems Happy to help Glenn On May 17, 2010, at 11:22 PM, Rick Harnish wrote: Kevin, I just loaded a widget to the WISPA website which will allow classified ads. I am no expert at setting this stuff up, so this may be a temporary trial. I would appreciate assistance from other board members or wordpress experts. So, test it, try it, but don't abuse it. It may take some time to perfect the layout, so please be patient and feel free to send your suggestions. http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2297 Respectfully, Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] WISPA classifieds? Hello, I've asked before, but I still haven't got an answer. Does WISPA have any online classifieds for used WISP equipment? I'm looking for a licensed link, and I have mountains of Trango 5800(-d), Trango 900, Tranzeo, and a few Trango ATLAS backhaul units I'd like liquidate. (I've also got a HUGE pile of Raylink, alvarion 900, and SmartBridges, but I'll probably have to just haul those to the dump). I'm thinking of throwing up a classifieds page for WISPs, but I really don't want to duplicate, if someone else already has one. Thanks, Kevin --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Times Microwave tools for LMR 400...
They are nice sure, but consider how expensive the connectors are I go with regular connector. Even if that means I have to do two crimps and have to mess with the center pin. Not crimped a cable in the field for years thanks to PoE occasionally need a jumper and mostly just use premade jumpers and in the rare instances build a custom length. Don't even have connectors or coax spools in the install van any longer. But have a variety of different length of coax cables. The stripper tool is great. Crimper you can use just about any crimpers and the deburring tool I got one don't use it, don't need it for center pins you crimp. Or just use a $5 file. Tessco got all the brand parts. We got the crimp handles and dies if you want to save some. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 10:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Times Microwave tools for LMR 400... I am looking for the following: EZ-400-NMH-D Connector CCT-01 Tool (cutter) ST-400EZ tool (cable Prep tool) DBT-U (deburr tool) HX4 Tool (crimp tool) Separately or in a kit... Does anyone have a favorite Vendor? I saw one vendor selling a kit for LMR400/600 with all of the above parts. They wanted over $1000 for it! The 'EZ-Crimp connectors look like the way to go, but other advice is appreciated. ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
