I'm not trying to throw cold water on you, but before anyone gets themselves
all excited, they better make use of the spectrumbridge tool and see if they
have ANY available channels.I'm relatively rural and I have ONLY 2-9. All
other frequencies are either adjacent to in use or in use.
That sounds good, and ominous. With out [“client device,” “client
mode,” “master device,” and “master mode.”] then we are left with one
type of device. What they plan to call it, I have no idea. What roll
that device plays will still be the classic ap/client. I would think
that having all radios
Am I the only one its not working for? I get script errors like
'Server Error in '/WSWebGUI' Application.' (and more info snipped).
Scripts are turned on in FireFox on Linux and Windows, and IE does not
have any changes from default (it is never used). Clicking on channels
jumps it to the default
I go to it and it seems there are no available channels anywhere I
search. Maybe they're working on it? Maybe I'm doing something
wrong?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Jeromie Reeves
14 green channels (all UHF) and 2 blue (VHF-Lo and VHF-Hi)
I think we will see WISP devices quickly that operate only in the UHF
spectrum.
Lo-VHF (2-6) 54-72 and 76-88 MHz is almost unusable for digital service
due to impulse noise.
Hi-VHF (7-13) 174-216 MHz is the prime space as far as the
It is broke. Use http://www.spectrumbridge.com instead.
Josh Luthman wrote:
I go to it and it seems there are no available channels anywhere I
search. Maybe they're working on it? Maybe I'm doing something
wrong?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Ah much better. Now, if a town has say 4 channels open (in a row) like
2 3 4 5, can you use 3 and 4, keeping 2 and 5 as the guard channels?
or will you need to pick 3 or 4?
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote:
It is broke. Use http://www.spectrumbridge.com
Just using Omni whip antennas at some of these frequencies
at the 4 watt level will give you all kinds of power increases just by the
laws of physics. For instance when you go from 50 MHz to 450 MHz the free
space loss difference is 20 DB! That is a difference of 100 times! So if
One idea that we could all think about is separate transmit and receive
frequencies. WISP's are so used to half duplex radio systems they sometimes
forget about that concept. This would allow you to make use of non
contiguous channels and your latency would be real low.
Brian
-Original
input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power
the second radio
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
Eh? What ya mean???
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of
But then if the pass through gets unchecked then you're toast since the unit
will be without power, not just the secondary device it powers.
Greg
On Sep 25, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Philip Dorr wrote:
input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power
the second radio
On Fri, Sep
Are you serious ? What if the poe checkbox gets unchecked ?
-- Original Message --
From: Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:37:58 -0500
input power in the secondary port and
Nothing, it will constantly stay on. Of course you cannot turn off
the second radio.
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote:
Are you serious ? What if the poe checkbox gets unchecked ?
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From:
Just as fast as any other frequency.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 9/24/2010 5:50 PM, RickG wrote:
But how fast can 200 or 300MHz go?
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Brian Webster
bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
That's another thing to remember... to have any usable throughput
you're going to have to find several channels together.
With UBNT gear, 6 MHz only yields 15 megabits. MT's N might double that.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 9/25/2010 4:25
There's a good idea. With the increasing amounts of customer upload
traffic, a 50/50 system isn't necessarily all that bad.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 9/25/2010 8:29 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
One idea that we could all think about is
I'm looking at high gain antenna for frequency reuse and not further
penetration.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 9/25/2010 8:22 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
Just using Omni whip antennas at some of these
frequencies at the 4 watt
What if a tractor drives through the tower?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 9/25/2010 10:17 AM, Stuart Pierce wrote:
Are you serious ? What if the poe checkbox gets unchecked ?
-- Original Message --
From:
Mike - i always get a kick out of your banter.
What if you allow the gremlins after dark to have water?
On Sep 25, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
What if a tractor drives through the tower?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On
Does my memory serve me correctly that channels 3, 4, and 37 are out
of the picture for use?
Some metropolitan areas use parts of 14 - 20 for public safety
communications, right?
Do the above channels ALSO need a guard band, making 2 impossible to use
and 5 the first real channel you can
http://long-lines.net/places-routes/1st_transcon_mw/Telephone_Skyway.pdf
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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You have to hit show incumbents. If you just hit enter after putting
in an address it doesn't show anything. The submit action appears to be
the find address button which just finds you on the map.
On 9/25/2010 1:52 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I go to it and it seems there are no available
That was where my question was going. 12mhz could let you use a 10mhz
channel. Yes we are used to half duplex because that is what most
people make. I would love full duplex and with all the mimo gear it
just my be possible to do it at a end user acceptable rate.
Most of the area I am interested
http://www.martinsuter.net/blog/2009/02/white-spaces-wifi-on-drugs.html
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Argon Technologies Inc.
POB 875
Greenville, TX 75403-0875
903-455-5036
WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Yea what if, I guess that sums it up, I'm done for the day go Arkansas (
Cause if the Buckeyes can't win today, something's up ).
It's Beer:30
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From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List
Ah! I'll give that a shot.
Thanks.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Philip Dorr
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
So you're saying if the secondary port is the one receiving power it will pass
power to the primary port no matter what the state of the pass through check
box? That's cool to know.
Greg
On Sep 25, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Philip Dorr wrote:
Nothing, it will constantly stay on. Of course you
8 Channels around here for me...
http://www.spectrumbridge.com/products-services/whitespaces/showmywhitespace/single-location-search.aspx
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Jeromie Reeves
Not according to Garp!
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Philip Dorr
wirel...@judgementgaming.comwrote:
It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port.
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw
Very very cool
http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=WEJ-11g-Oeq=Tp=
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Anyone have this working? If so, is it stable or glitchy?
Thanks
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According to that page, only 2, 5, and 6 are available for me.
Assuming their data is correct, TVWS are almost not even worth my time.
6 channels are reserved for wireless mics.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 9/25/2010 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman
Saw one similar to this from 4ipnet a year or so ago. They still email me every
other day about their products.
Sent from my iPhone4
On Sep 25, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
Very very cool
http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=WEJ-11g-Oeq=Tp=
I read the whole FCC document regarding what channels can be used. In one
section it talks about fixed wireless under channel 21 but then in the
decision section under that it just made the general statement that
channels under 21 could not be utilized. I only breezed through the
document
Just my own opinion here, but I believe that, after repacking, the FCC
will take back the VHF-Lo band from the TV stations.
Correct. At this time, there are NO approved for sale/use TVWS devices.
Scott Carullo wrote:
I
read the whole FCC document regarding what channels can be used. In
one
Looks like the cable companies are very worried about this situation.
http://www.cabletechtalk.com/white-spaces/
Sent from my iPhone4
On Sep 25, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote:
I read the whole FCC document regarding what channels can be used. In one
That is not exactly true. Depends on the modulation techniques. And
I believe there is an upper limit to the number of bits you can get on a
single cycle of the carrier.
On 9/25/2010 10:32 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Just as fast as any other frequency.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing
Hello Mark,
Thank-you for your comments and thanks in advance for agreeing not
to use the available TV White Space channels in your area. That will
leave those open for another WISP to use.
Thank you again and best regards,
jack
On
At 9/25/2010 10:57 AM, MikeH wrote:
Does my memory serve me correctly that channels 3, 4, and 37 are out
of the picture for use?
Yes. 3 and 4 are reserved because cable systems and other devices
use them for the analog feed to TV sets. (The FCC forgot this
several years ago and gave a
Your sarcasm would be, well, effective, if I weren't correct about there being
no way to use it. No other WISP is going to be able to do what I can't do,
either, Jack.
In my town, there is ONE UHF channel. 6 mhz. That's it. In the mountains,
where we need it due to forest, it can't be
3 and 4 are reserved... where did you get this from???
WWMT 3 was high power analog in Kalamazoo, MI
WDIV 4 was high power analog in Detroit, MI
There were many others...
Fred Goldstein wrote:
At 9/25/2010 10:57 AM, MikeH wrote:
Does my memory serve me correctly that
At 9/25/2010 08:43 PM, BlairD wrote:
3 and 4 are reserved... where did you get this from???
WWMT 3 was high power analog in Kalamazoo, MI
WDIV 4 was high power analog in Detroit, MI
There were many others...
Yes, but because they were adjacent, only one of the two was in use
in any given
Is anyone consulting the database search tool on the Spectrum Bridge
website? Is it of any value? Put in a zip code and it shows you all the
channels and what is and is not available, and has a legend which includes
the reason for any reserved ones. Any comment on how accurate and/or
valuable
That is pretty nice. Unless I am mistaken, you need 3 open channels in
a row and use the middle one, correct?
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote:
Hello Mark,
Thank-you for your comments and thanks in advance for agreeing not to use
the available TV White Space
I would use the interactive map rather than search by zip code. With the
interactive map you can zoom in to the area of interest and then turn the
specific channel contour maps on and off at will. Much easier to visualize
the availability than looking at that report. There is still some question
Not quite, if there is a station that has a contour that covers your desired
area, you have to also stay off the channel above and below it in your area.
You would protecting their first adjacent channel. There may be some
exceptions to the rule for certain channels. I'll be reading the report and
The gap between 6 and 7 is used by marine air search radar. If you are on
the coast, you wouldn't want to be there.
Phil
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
wrote:
I would use the interactive map rather than search by zip code. With the
interactive
Is that not what I said? If the contour does not cover you, then its a
open channel. If you have a contour on say ch 3, and one on 7, then
you have to stay off 4 and 6, and can use 5, 3 open channels at least.
(Ignoring that 34 are not usable, numbers are for example use only).
I welcome your KMZ
Well since I'm Yakima you now have my attention!
Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc.
On 9/25/2010 5:00 PM, MDK wrote:
Your sarcasm would be, well, effective, if I weren't correct about
there being no way to use it. No other WISP is going to be able to
do what I can't do,
According to that page, only 2, 5, and 6 are available for me.
Assuming their data is correct, TVWS are almost not even worth my time.
6 channels are reserved for wireless mics.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
On 9/25/2010 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman
Nope. No dice. Played with it after I took it down. Did a hard reset
then. PoE is always on no matter what the checkbox says. Before
reset, PoE did not work no matter which port power was put into.
Downgraded, upgraded, just can't turn that sucker off. Maybe I need to show it
Don't believe it. I think it depends on the alignment of the planets.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 1:01 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M
GARP!
I see we have a reader here...
Oldie but a goodie.
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 1:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!
According to that website channels 5-13 and a couple others, that are
only 2 channels wide, are available here, but unless the local TV
channels completely changed on the DTV switch 5 and 9 are in use.
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
According to
I had some trouble with an NS5M running 5.2.1 RC2.
Short version:
I had some weirdness tonight. I was looking at network traffic with Wireshark
and noticed CDP - Cisco Discovery Protocol (UBNT calls it extra reporting)
traffic coming from one of the NS5M's on my back haul. I had turned that
Yep. Secondary port.. Bullshit.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 12:36 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE
Cool idea though
On Sep 26, 2010, at 12:45 AM, Robert West wrote:
Yep. Secondary port.. Bullshit.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 12:36 AM
To: WISPA
Yep. I like it, don't work. Well... For just a bit.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45
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