[WISPA] Microsoft, Google, Comcast among supporters for Wi-Fi access expansion

2014-02-14 Thread Sam
http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-google-comcast-among-supporters-for-wi-fi-access-expansion-726353/#ftag=RSS14dc6a9 (My apologies if this is old news. I hadn't seen it yet if it is.) Have a great weekend! ~Sam ___ Wireless mailing list

Re: [WISPA] Microsoft, Google, , Comcast among supporters for Wi-Fi access expansion

2014-02-14 Thread ralph
And also this: http://www.fiercewireless.com/tech/story/wififorward-adds-ballast-demand-unl icensed-spectrum/2014-02-13 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Sam Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 11:31 AM To:

Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-14 Thread Art Stephens
We have over 600 Airgrids deployed (Which did not get DFS approval but we are using the frequencies listed and DFS on the Rocket Sectors they connect to. I have been chasing jumping bunny rabbits (False Positives from competitors putting up new APs)) - cost to replace $6000 not including labor

Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
Yes? :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 9:17:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out

Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-14 Thread Matt Hoppes
Run your rockets at legal power levels and you won't be chasing DFS hops. On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:17, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote: We have over 600 Airgrids deployed (Which did not get DFS approval but we are using the frequencies listed and DFS on the Rocket Sectors they connect

Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-14 Thread Matt Hoppes
Ummm. And how are you connected uncertified devices to a DFS equipped sector? On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:17, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote: We have over 600 Airgrids deployed (Which did not get DFS approval but we are using the frequencies listed and DFS on the Rocket Sectors they

Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
It seems technically quite easy. Set compliance mode on an older device and associate to one that is compliant. Does DFS certification only apply to AP operations or CPE operations as well? I'm guessing the former. If that's the case, UBNT hasn't done the paperwork to get them certified as

Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
CPE must be DFS compliant as well. CPE has to be able to respond to channel change requests from the AP, etc. *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/14/2014 12:35 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: It seems technically quite easy. Set

Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-14 Thread Blair Davis
Don't think that anything to do with DFS has to make any sense. It doesn't. -- On 2/14/2014 4:35 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: It seems technically quite easy. Set compliance mode on an older device and associate to one that is compliant. Does DFS certification only apply to AP operations or CPE

Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
The DOD only cares that you stop using the channel. It's up to you if you want it to work somewhere else. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
We're talking about DFS certification requirements for CPEs. They exist :P *Josh Reynolds* Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com On 02/14/2014 01:46 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: The DOD only cares that you stop using the channel. It's up to you if you want it

Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-14 Thread Matt Hoppes
Exactly... and this conversation just took a hair pin into exactly WHY we're being muscled out of the frequencies. Guys -- if you're going to run, play by the rules. No unlocked radios, compliance with DFS, set to US country code, etc. Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo

Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
I was just speaking theoretical. Don't do any of the things I mentioned. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, February

Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-14 Thread Matt Hoppes
You didn't make the comments that took this in the direction it did :) On 2/14/14, 6:04 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I was just speaking theoretical. Don't do any of the things I mentioned. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
Well I know that. Punch in the FCC ID on your radio. What does it say you can use? Yup, that's it. Move on. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
LOUD NOISES - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 5:06:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are we being

Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-14 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
On 02/14/2014 03:08 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: LOUD NOISES I don't know what we're yelling about! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-14 Thread ralph
Exactly-What Matt said! or you are no better than the Mikrotik boys who use uncertified stuff. (yes a FEW MT devices radios are certified, but most are illegal to use in the US. But they don't seem to care) I feel that 5GHz is going to be toast anyway before long. In our Metro WiFi deployments

Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-14 Thread Blair Davis
Haven't we had this discussion before? In reference to m-PCI radio cards? Didn't it break down to a 'spirit of the law' group and a 'letter of the law' group last time? Professional installer, anyone? Won't it do that again? Isn't insanity doing the same thing over and over and expecting a

Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-14 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I guess the point I was trying to make was that every one of those airgrids have been illegal to operate in 5.4 since day one. If you're unfortunate enough to get the FCC's attention you could be fined dearly for operating out of spec. A bit of history. The 5.4 frequency block used to be

Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-14 Thread Jim Patient
Anyone happen to notice the noise on the San Juan TDWR station lately? Must be a bunch of Airgrids down there J https://tinyurl.com/pohpj6o Jim From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Friday, February

Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?

2014-02-14 Thread Mike Hammett
They certainly aren't DFS certified, if you're willing to cede 5.8 GHz. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014