[WISPA] mobile radios
Does anyone have any knowledge of ruggedized mobile units for first responders? Ive looked at WR. Any others? Thanks Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Industry failings
ditto, and now I've taken over 100% of the company from the one person that did help me along early on. We built a large network here in NJ - across 12 locations, and it covers 1000's of potential accounts with no access to dsl or cable. Now looking for someone to come in with some operating / capex capital and get some real growth going. Been in business plan mode for a week now. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 2:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Industry failings Same here! Mark Koskenmaki wrote: Ok, thanks I'm 100% organic growth, here. And self-funded, too. Call it bootstrap, if you like. +++ neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington email me at mark at neofast dot net 541-969-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Industry failings Organic Growth means creating revenue through sales and marketing. *Organic growth* is the rate of business /wiki/Business expansion through increasing output and sales as opposed to mergers /wiki/Merger, acquisitions /wiki/Acquisition and take-overs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_growth Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Industry failings
Rick Smith wrote: We built a large network here in NJ - across 12 locations, and it covers 1000's of potential accounts with no access to dsl or cable. Now looking for someone to come in with some operating / capex capital and get some real growth going. Been in business plan mode for a week now. Just make sure you don't try an sell your investment based on market opportunity alone. I have met many WISPs that talk about how much their company is worth based on their coverage area. The problem is that for many of them, they don't sell enough in their coverage area and years go by without enough penetration. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Industry failings
exactly. I've had two sales guys over the years, neither one of them could understand the concept of sell it where we've got it I'm willing to bet you guys have all seen the same problem. coverage area's worth nothing unless you have the means and the people to sell customers there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 9:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Industry failings Rick Smith wrote: We built a large network here in NJ - across 12 locations, and it covers 1000's of potential accounts with no access to dsl or cable. Now looking for someone to come in with some operating / capex capital and get some real growth going. Been in business plan mode for a week now. Just make sure you don't try an sell your investment based on market opportunity alone. I have met many WISPs that talk about how much their company is worth based on their coverage area. The problem is that for many of them, they don't sell enough in their coverage area and years go by without enough penetration. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Industry failings = finance
I slapped this post up this morning about where to find capital: http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2006/12/how-to-raise-money-for-your-business.html BTW, Seth Godin's book, the Boot Strapper's Bible is available for no-charge download here: http://www.changethis.com/8.BootstrappersBible Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. Rick Smith wrote: ditto, and now I've taken over 100% of the company from the one person that did help me along early on. We built a large network here in NJ - across 12 locations, and it covers 1000's of potential accounts with no access to dsl or cable. Now looking for someone to come in with some operating / capex capital and get some real growth going. Been in business plan mode for a week now. -Original Message- Ok, thanks I'm 100% organic growth, here. And self-funded, too. Call it bootstrap, if you like. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Wi-Fi deployment manager
We have an upcoming Wi-Fi deployment that involves around 50 Wi-Fi nodes installed at street level along with the associated backhauls of these nodes. We will be using gear from a vendor we don't have much experience with (They were selected for other reasons). Anyway, we are looking for a person who can come in on a contract basis on manage the deployment. We will provide resources such as network and radio engineers as well as field installation staff. Additionally, the vendor in question has committed to providing resources including people to assist. What we need is a single person to own the project who has experience with these types of deployments. We expect this contract to be no more than 60 days and does require the person to be on site with us in Atlanta. Additional details will be made available to anyone who is interested. Please let me know if you are. We are not looking for a company to outsource this deployment; just an individual. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Industry failings - Sales Marketing
You say that you have a huge market to tap. What are you doing to tap it? What is your sales plan? What is your marketing plan? (Both are an integral part of your business plan). Is your website up-to-date, marketing your services? Letting people know who you are and where you are available? Anyone in your company networking? Working the Chamber? Working with Community Leaders like Home Owners Associations and Condo Boards? Do you have signs up in lit areas? How about hiring kids to do door hangers? How about newspaper inserts? Valu-pak? Ads in church flyers? Regards Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. (813) 963-5884 Rick Smith wrote: ditto, and now I've taken over 100% of the company from the one person that did help me along early on. We built a large network here in NJ - across 12 locations, and it covers 1000's of potential accounts with no access to dsl or cable. Now looking for someone to come in with some operating / capex capital and get some real growth going. Been in business plan mode for a week now. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Alvarion vs Moto/802.11 network value
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan Oliver Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 11:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion vs Moto/802.11 network value Dylan, Here's a good example: Providers buying voip/data wisp's. On the 5 Ghz platforms there are major differences. Brad I personally would pay more for an Alvarion or Motorola network vs 802.11. I just wondered if there was anything behind the statement that an Alvarion network would bring more than Moto. Two name-brand networks - where Motorola certainly has greater recognition. But there is no substance behind the claim, so I can drop it now. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(42). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] mobile radios
Alvarion has a system specifically designed for this application. Patrick, your phone is ringing! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: chris cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 5:39 AM Subject: [WISPA] mobile radios Does anyone have any knowledge of ruggedized mobile units for first responders? Ive looked at WR. Any others? Thanks Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Industry failings
They absolutely will. Being an ISP you understand build out costs, some put a lot more into a site than others. We'd probably do things a little differently, maybe not. Here is what I do know. 1. They spare no expense at building sites, sites are solid. We share many sites with Fiber Tower. Very nicely done. 2. They seem to have very good dealings with all of the tower companies which gets them bulk pricing, reduced costs, etc.. 3. I think if we all haven't learned the lessons from Winstar then we would be foolish. Fiber tower does have a huge market and there is very little competition. 4. You know the LEC actually put someone beneath ISP's, the cell phone carriers so when their T1 blows out at a tower, ISP's are actually serviced before the cell carrier. 5. The architecture is very nice, very good equipment. 6. Look how many sites they have built in a year. It's sick... 7. We all know that once you build a site it takes some time to monetize them, they seem a little behind but maybe not. 8. Wall street will keep feeding them as long as they are executing, and they are doing a good job of that. Dustin Jurman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 4:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Industry failings Wow. Do you have any factual basis for those statements, or are you just hoping? Does customers that send lots of jobs and money translate in any way to a net loss of 14.5 million in the third quarter of 2006, as opposed to a 4.9 million dollar loss in same quarter 2005? It is kind of scary when a company in that shape sees their general and admin costs go up 354% in that period, when the actual costs of providing that service go up only around 105%. Now, with that said, it is a good concept. The only issue is whether or not Wall Street will let them hang around burning money until they start showing a profit. - Original Message - From: Dustin Jurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 3:13 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Industry failings Fiber Tower is rocking the house. They are very focused and have a core nitch of customers that not only love their service but are willing to send lots of jobs and money to them. Oh.. And they are executing like white on rice. Dustin Jurman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Industry failings The one thing that has been the failure of SO many companies including NextLink, Yipes, et al - NOT ENOUGH SALES. Folks in the greater ISP industry tend to focus much of their attention on the technology. Building, tinkering, tweaking. Equally, your focus has to be on sales marketing. It's the end of another year (http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2006/12/eoy-part-ii.html), take time to make goals for the new year - and to create a sales plan for your company and a marketing plan. (Even if you don't follow it, at least you have taken the time to think about it). Marketing for WISP's: http://www.isp-planet.com/marketing/2006/ispcon_wireless_marketing.html Here's a couple of things about low hanging fruit: easy to pick - by you or anyone else; and if not picked, it gets rotten and falls off the tree. To your success, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. Marketing IDEA guy.com (813) 963-5884 I take the technology and help you turn it into revenue. Matt Liotta wrote: One the biggest factors holding our industry back is a lack of success on the part of the big poster children. People look at the past failures of WinStar and Teligent and wonder if new entrants can succeed. Many investors are watching FiberTower and NextLink to see if these new poster children can prove the business model. It doesn't really matter that neither FiberTower or NextLink are representative of our industry. What matters is they are both publicly traded fixed wireless companies. This means that all fixed wireless companies are viewed through the lens of these publicly traded companies since they are the only ones with enough information for people to draw conclusions on. If you look at FiberTower's and NextLink's latest numbers you should be very worried. NextLink is failing and I predict will be out of business in the not too distant future. FiberTower is much better off than NextLink, but they are burning cash at an impressive rate. One can easily predict them running out of cash sometime next year if things follow a similar trend. Some of us on this list do more revenue than NextLink, but I doubt that will matter when they go under. Our valuations will decline in lock step to any failures by these two companies. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Industry failings
Dustin Jurman wrote: Being an ISP you understand build out costs, some put a lot more into a site than others. We'd probably do things a little differently, maybe not. Here is what I do know. WinStar's plan assumed a 10 year ROI on a site. In hindsight that seems rather foolish now, but back then they convinced people it made sense. 2. They seem to have very good dealings with all of the tower companies which gets them bulk pricing, reduced costs, etc.. American Tower is a major shareholder, so this should be expected. 6. Look how many sites they have built in a year. It's sick... Look how few they have monetized. It's sick... 7. We all know that once you build a site it takes some time to monetize them, they seem a little behind but maybe not. Very behind! 8. Wall street will keep feeding them as long as they are executing, and they are doing a good job of that. Who says they are executing? Good installs, good equipment, lots of sites built, and happy customers are all important things, but none of them mean they are executing well. They actually need to execute against their business plan, which includes things like cash flow and profitability. Both currently stink. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Industry failings
Well I guess we all learned something different from Winstar. I can think of a bunch of other things, I surely have never thought that a 10 year ROI was a valuable lesson to be learned from them when they clearly made more grave mistakes. As far as American Tower is concerned, Fantastic! To have a tower company in your back pocket, we'd all kill for that one. Funny thing is I haven't seen them on very many American sites, but I have seen them on everyone else's. Doesn't matter where I am at, I'm always looking up and counting equipment hanging in the air. I've seen a lot of good and a lot of bad. I also make it a point to speak with everyone going in and out of tower sites and the local groups that support them. Like I said, I run into these guys quite a bit at a lot of different sites. Time will tell how they monetize the network. I'm just pointing out that a lot of folks in this industry have a very different viewpoint on fibertower, and they can do a lot of good for legitimizing the industry which I believe was the original intent. Dustin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 1:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Industry failings Dustin Jurman wrote: Being an ISP you understand build out costs, some put a lot more into a site than others. We'd probably do things a little differently, maybe not. Here is what I do know. WinStar's plan assumed a 10 year ROI on a site. In hindsight that seems rather foolish now, but back then they convinced people it made sense. 2. They seem to have very good dealings with all of the tower companies which gets them bulk pricing, reduced costs, etc.. American Tower is a major shareholder, so this should be expected. 6. Look how many sites they have built in a year. It's sick... Look how few they have monetized. It's sick... 7. We all know that once you build a site it takes some time to monetize them, they seem a little behind but maybe not. Very behind! 8. Wall street will keep feeding them as long as they are executing, and they are doing a good job of that. Who says they are executing? Good installs, good equipment, lots of sites built, and happy customers are all important things, but none of them mean they are executing well. They actually need to execute against their business plan, which includes things like cash flow and profitability. Both currently stink. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
