RE: [WISPA] Test

2007-05-07 Thread Rick Harnish
Thanks for the vacation guys, this was an easy weekend to moderate the lists
:)

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[WISPA] commercial router

2007-05-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

Hi All,

I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content 
filtering.


What are people using these days?

Prices?

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RE: [WISPA] commercial router

2007-05-07 Thread Smith, Rick

You can't get away from Mikrotik! :) 

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Hi All,

I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content
filtering.

What are people using these days?

Prices?

thanks,
Marlon
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[WISPA] ping

2007-05-07 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
 

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RE: [WISPA] commercial router

2007-05-07 Thread Jeff Broadwick
ImageStream?  *ducking*  :-) 

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Subject: [WISPA] commercial router

Hi All,

I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content
filtering.

What are people using these days?

Prices?

thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] commercial router

2007-05-07 Thread Scott Reed

How do you do web content filtering on MT?

Smith, Rick wrote:
You can't get away from Mikrotik! :) 


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Subject: [WISPA] commercial router

Hi All,

I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content
filtering.

What are people using these days?

Prices?

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RE: [WISPA] commercial router

2007-05-07 Thread Smith, Rick

Use firewall mangling / packet matching ?

I use it at a local school here to block myspace.com and all the free
proxies for it. 

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How do you do web content filtering on MT?

Smith, Rick wrote:
 You can't get away from Mikrotik! :)

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 Subject: [WISPA] commercial router

 Hi All,

 I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content 
 filtering.

 What are people using these days?

 Prices?

 thanks,
 Marlon
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Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question

2007-05-07 Thread Ross Cornett
We use a DLINK hotspot router that emails me every connect and disconnect 
from our hotels.  The FBI could take that log and compare it to room number 
and date of stay and they can find their man that way... FYI



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There will likely be cases where that's impossible.

Lets say that I have a customer that's a hotel.  They, at first, only know 
the ip addy or mac addy.  A subpoena comes to me looking for info on the 
user in question.  There's no way to use the hotel's Linksys hardware to 
do the tap to find the specific think that LEA is looking for.  Can't 
change the network because any action on our side tips off the suspect.


In some cases it won't be possible to filter out all info.  Especially if 
we don't know what we're looking for (which we won't and shouldn't) as far 
as specific data goes.


I talked to the head of the FBI's CALEA group for about an hour again 
yesterday.  They know full well that there are just some things that can't 
be done.  At the end of the day, the just need our help when and where we 
can give it to them.  There are far too many possibilities to deal with 
every single possible situation, we know that, they know that.


As long as we make a real effort to help I don't think we have to worry 
about getting in trouble.  It's those that thumb their noses that will run 
enforcement risks.


I was told that there has NEVER been an enforcement issue occur.

laters,
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Marlon,

I was under the impression the providers are only supposed to send the 
LEA the data covered in the subpoena and no more.


Regards,
Dawn DiPietro


Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
Read the FAQ.  In some cases they may have to sort through ALL data to 
get at what they want.

marlon

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In my opinion, I don;t think it will fly because of NAT.
The law inforcement agrency needs to be able to differenciate what 
customer traffic is comming from, and if you use NAT for any of your 
customers, the facilities based upstream provider would have no way to 
identify the end user, and the WISP would become the customer and be 
liable. To many degrees of seperation at the upstream for the captured 
data to be meaningful.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The FCC wrote:

we conclude that establishments that
acquire broadband Internet access service from a facilities-based
provider to enable their patrons or customers to access the Internet
from their respective establishments are not considered 
facilities-based

broadband Internet access service providers

Hm.

It'd be one heckuva stretch, but by reading the letter (as opposed to 
the spirit) of that paragraph, many smaller WISPs would automatically 
be exempt. I know my office has acquired broadband Internet access 
service from a facilities-based provider (our upstream ISP) and we're 
enabling our customers to access the Internet from their respective 
establishments (i.e. our customers pay for Internet at their homes or 
offices).


By the letter of that paragraph (and, to be fair, I haven't read all 
the context surrounding it) most any single-homed WISP would be 
exempt, as they could just say go talk to our upstream. (I doubt 
it'd work for multi-homed ISPs, as that would require multiple 
upstreams to be tapped and somehow synchronized, which is probably 
technically annoying.)


David Smith
MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question

2007-05-07 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler

I don't think this is covered anyway, unless the guy is a permanent
resident at the hotel.  The subpoena will cover the suspect and any
known IP or MAC info and I believe would cover a particular physical
location.

I was told that a subpoena cannot simply say anything, anywhere.  It
has to get fairly specific, and traffic from a Motel is not very
specific.

Lonnie

On 5/4/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

There will likely be cases where that's impossible.

Lets say that I have a customer that's a hotel.  They, at first, only know
the ip addy or mac addy.  A subpoena comes to me looking for info on the
user in question.  There's no way to use the hotel's Linksys hardware to do
the tap to find the specific think that LEA is looking for.  Can't change
the network because any action on our side tips off the suspect.

In some cases it won't be possible to filter out all info.  Especially if we
don't know what we're looking for (which we won't and shouldn't) as far as
specific data goes.

I talked to the head of the FBI's CALEA group for about an hour again
yesterday.  They know full well that there are just some things that can't
be done.  At the end of the day, the just need our help when and where we
can give it to them.  There are far too many possibilities to deal with
every single possible situation, we know that, they know that.

As long as we make a real effort to help I don't think we have to worry
about getting in trouble.  It's those that thumb their noses that will run
enforcement risks.

I was told that there has NEVER been an enforcement issue occur.

laters,
Marlon
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- Original Message -
From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question


 Marlon,

 I was under the impression the providers are only supposed to send the LEA
 the data covered in the subpoena and no more.

 Regards,
 Dawn DiPietro


 Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 Read the FAQ.  In some cases they may have to sort through ALL data to
 get at what they want.
 marlon

 - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi
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 Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 9:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question


 In my opinion, I don;t think it will fly because of NAT.
 The law inforcement agrency needs to be able to differenciate what
 customer traffic is comming from, and if you use NAT for any of your
 customers, the facilities based upstream provider would have no way to
 identify the end user, and the WISP would become the customer and be
 liable. To many degrees of seperation at the upstream for the captured
 data to be meaningful.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question


 The FCC wrote:
 we conclude that establishments that
 acquire broadband Internet access service from a facilities-based
 provider to enable their patrons or customers to access the Internet
 from their respective establishments are not considered
 facilities-based
 broadband Internet access service providers
 Hm.

 It'd be one heckuva stretch, but by reading the letter (as opposed to
 the spirit) of that paragraph, many smaller WISPs would automatically
 be exempt. I know my office has acquired broadband Internet access
 service from a facilities-based provider (our upstream ISP) and we're
 enabling our customers to access the Internet from their respective
 establishments (i.e. our customers pay for Internet at their homes or
 offices).

 By the letter of that paragraph (and, to be fair, I haven't read all
 the context surrounding it) most any single-homed WISP would be exempt,
 as they could just say go talk to our upstream. (I doubt it'd work
 for multi-homed ISPs, as that would require multiple upstreams to be
 tapped and somehow synchronized, which is probably technically
 annoying.)

 David Smith
 MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] commercial router

2007-05-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

Need content filtering.

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Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router



You can't get away from Mikrotik! :) 


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Subject: [WISPA] commercial router

Hi All,

I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content
filtering.

What are people using these days?

Prices?

thanks,
Marlon
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(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
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Re: [WISPA] commercial router

2007-05-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

Do you have a content filtering service?

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ImageStream?  *ducking*  :-)

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Subject: [WISPA] commercial router

Hi All,

I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content
filtering.

What are people using these days?

Prices?

thanks,
Marlon
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(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
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RE: [WISPA] commercial router

2007-05-07 Thread Smith, Rick

again, Mikrotik.

Even 2.7 had it
http://www.mikrotik.com/documentation//manual_2.7/IP/Firewall.html

Under Marking the Packets (Mangle) and Changing
content (text; default: ) - the text packets should contain in order
to match the rule

I use 2.8.38 at a school to filter out everything to do with myspace.com


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Need content filtering.

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You can't get away from Mikrotik! :) 

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Subject: [WISPA] commercial router

Hi All,

I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content
filtering.

What are people using these days?

Prices?

thanks,
Marlon
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Re: [WISPA] commercial router

2007-05-07 Thread George Rogato

I thought that content filtering happened by way of dns.
George

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

Do you have a content filtering service?

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- Original Message - From: Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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ImageStream?  *ducking*  :-)

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Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] commercial router

Hi All,

I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content
filtering.

What are people using these days?

Prices?

thanks,
Marlon
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Re: [WISPA] commercial router

2007-05-07 Thread Matt Liotta
That isn't content filtering as most in the industry would define it. 
Anyone can drop packets based upon metrics such as destination IP. 
Generally, when people ask for content filtering they are looking for 
high level policies that can block certain types of content e.g. porn. 
If you want to block porn, you are not going to be able to keep a list 
of IP/hostnames that are known porn sites. You need something more 
sophisticated. How sophisticated? Try answering the question, what is 
porn? Is a picture of a naked human porn? What about babies? What about 
medical imaging? Will someone's porn be someone else's art? Who decides?


The folks I have talked who want content filtered don't want to have to 
decide what specifically is filtered. They just want their ass covered 
in case something comes up. This is where having a 3rd party who is in 
the business helps. That 3rd party needs to be compensated in order to 
take on the liability of content filtering, which is quite serious. I'd 
hate to be on the wrong side of this issue, whichever side it was.


-Matt

Smith, Rick wrote:

again, Mikrotik.

Even 2.7 had it
http://www.mikrotik.com/documentation//manual_2.7/IP/Firewall.html

Under Marking the Packets (Mangle) and Changing
content (text; default: ) - the text packets should contain in order
to match the rule

I use 2.8.38 at a school to filter out everything to do with myspace.com


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Need content filtering.

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You can't get away from Mikrotik! :) 


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Hi All,

I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content
filtering.

What are people using these days?

Prices?

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Re: [WISPA] commercial router

2007-05-07 Thread Zack Kneisley

Trust Eli

http://www.trusteli.com/

They will send you a evaluation box pretty cheap, You maight have to go
through DH or another big distributor though, can't remember. I've put it
on the back burner, but from what the sales rep showed me and told me it
would be my first choice for content filtering.

Zack


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Re: [WISPA] ping

2007-05-07 Thread Zack Kneisley

Pong?

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RE: [WISPA] commercial router

2007-05-07 Thread Kris R Efland
Marlon,

The two that I've encountered most in the field are the Allot
NetEnforcer and Packeteer's products.  The Allot software has gotten
much better recently with detecting 'bad' traffic that gets routed
through standard ports (80/443/20/21,etc).  And Packeteer has some good
content caching patents.  Both of their prices are high though.  Here's
a decent write-up, it's a little old:

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,901491,00.asp

Though neither of those are a true 'router' but more of a gateway that
would sit behind the router, so I don't know if that's what you are
looking for.

I could also recommend some open source projects for the DIY person. L7
Filter, DansGuardian, ntop, etc are the standouts.  Also, most of the
open source firewalls also do basic string matching on urls:
*myspace.com for instance. Going down that route I would look at
m0n0wall and smoothwall, both of which I've used with success.

Are they trying to eliminate types of traffic (P2P) or are they trying
to block specific sites?  Some of the cheaper products do one and not
the other.  The better content filters have a subscription type system
to do remote updates periodically to the product for an updated list
with new proxies and sites they've flagged as bad (think Norton).  There
are some other products out there like photo no-no (www.photonono.com)
that actually filter images on the fly.  Though they were very hesitant
to send me benchmarks when I was talking to them a while back so you
probably need some horsepower to use them at scale.


Regards,

Kris Efland
IntraMeta Corporation
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Subject: [WISPA] commercial router

Hi All,

I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content 
filtering.

What are people using these days?

Prices?

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RE: [WISPA] commercial router

2007-05-07 Thread Kris R Efland
George,
You *could* do it that way, by poisoning your DNS cache (or de-poisoning
it, depending on your outlook), but what would stop someone from using
another DNS server, like Open DNS?  You need something in the byte
stream for it to be effective.

 
Regards,

Kris Efland
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I thought that content filtering happened by way of dns.
George

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
 Do you have a content filtering service?
 
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 ImageStream?  *ducking*  :-)

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 Hi All,

 I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content
 filtering.

 What are people using these days?

 Prices?

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RE: [WISPA] Fort Knox firewall

2007-05-07 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
Lol


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A little off topic, but I wonder what the FBI would say to seeing a
CALEA dump of your google session

+fort +knox +firewall

lol.

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Subject: [WISPA] Fort Knox firewall

We have a local LEA that has an old Fort Knox firewall and had to reset
to factory defaults but now cannot gain access to the box. I've tried
googling the password but have not come up with anything. Does anybody
out there know what the default access is to a Fort Knox 3000 firewall?


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[WISPA] are you for sale?

2007-05-07 Thread Matt Liotta
In discussions with others it has come to my attention that several 
companies are looking to exit the business for various reasons not the 
least of which is CALEA. If you're serious about exploring an exit, 
contact me offlist. I am interested in a variety of options from taking 
a controlling interest to an outright cash buyout.


I don't want to sound like a vulture, but the CALEA deadline is coming 
fast and it will become increasingly difficult to sell a business that 
is not compliant after the deadline passes.


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Re: [WISPA] ping

2007-05-07 Thread Mike Hammett

YAY!


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[WISPA] Hotspot setup

2007-05-07 Thread J. Vogel
Is it possible to use MT Hotspot feature with clients that already have
a public static IP address? I have a client that wants to be able to turn
off their Internet Access when not being used.. they have a couple of
computers in their office that unauthorized people may have access to
when they step out of the office for a minute or two, and want to prevent
those unauthorized people from using the computer(s) to access the internet.

The set up is like this...

client computers connected to a D-Link router, NAT/DHCP addressing.
The D-Link has a static public IP on the WAN side.
The D-Link accesses the Internet through a Tranzeo CPE configured in
bridge mode, which is associated to the MT Access point.
It is at this point that I would like to configure the hotspot, but only for
this one client.

Further info...
The MT AP is also acting as a transparent bridge, receiving traffic on
the AP side, and sending it to the network Gateway out ether1 (which
goes through two more transparent bridges before it gets to the GW).
The MT that is acting as AP for this client is on OS 2.9.35

The MT AP currently has a private IP address. I could put a public IP
on it and switch it to a routed segment at some point, but would rather
not have to do that before setting this hotspot up for this client if
that is
at all possible.

My thoughts are that it would be great to intercept traffic coming from the
customer's public IP and direct it to the hotspot's walled garden until they
provide a username and password, the enable access until they either log
out or are inactive for a given number of minutes, or possible after a
maximum length of time. I know that I can use the MT to direct traffic
to a walled garden manually (I have used it like that to manually disable a
customer's access) but would like to use it with the client login/logout
feature.

If someone has some pointers, or is willing to help me set this up, I would
greatly appreciate any help.

John Vogel

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[WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

2007-05-07 Thread Mike Hammett
Redline has a certified product released.  Orthogon is about to have theirs 
out.  Anyone else?


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Re: [WISPA] commercial router

2007-05-07 Thread Scott Reed
You got it, Matt, and that is why I ask how to do it with MT.  My 
SonicWall subscription service works great for this, but if someone 
knows a way to do it in MT, that would be awesome.


Matt Liotta wrote:
That isn't content filtering as most in the industry would define it. 
Anyone can drop packets based upon metrics such as destination IP. 
Generally, when people ask for content filtering they are looking for 
high level policies that can block certain types of content e.g. porn. 
If you want to block porn, you are not going to be able to keep a list 
of IP/hostnames that are known porn sites. You need something more 
sophisticated. How sophisticated? Try answering the question, what is 
porn? Is a picture of a naked human porn? What about babies? What 
about medical imaging? Will someone's porn be someone else's art? Who 
decides?


The folks I have talked who want content filtered don't want to have 
to decide what specifically is filtered. They just want their ass 
covered in case something comes up. This is where having a 3rd party 
who is in the business helps. That 3rd party needs to be compensated 
in order to take on the liability of content filtering, which is quite 
serious. I'd hate to be on the wrong side of this issue, whichever 
side it was.


-Matt

Smith, Rick wrote:

again, Mikrotik.

Even 2.7 had it
http://www.mikrotik.com/documentation//manual_2.7/IP/Firewall.html

Under Marking the Packets (Mangle) and Changing
content (text; default: ) - the text packets should contain in order
to match the rule

I use 2.8.38 at a school to filter out everything to do with myspace.com


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Need content filtering.

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You can't get away from Mikrotik! :)
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Subject: [WISPA] commercial router

Hi All,

I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content
filtering.

What are people using these days?

Prices?

thanks,
Marlon
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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

2007-05-07 Thread lakeland
Exalt real soon

Bob
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry  

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Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

Redline has a certified product released.  Orthogon is about to have theirs 
out.  Anyone else?


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Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?

2007-05-07 Thread JohnnyO
Well Matt - not one of those people which would be me - will not ignore 
the fact of what you're stating is a valid reason for selling out due to 
Calea. I simply will voice my opinion on the matter.


I am sure that more will agree vs. disagree with me that selling out your 
company due to a Calea hurdle is not a good reason to sell. And I really 
don't like seeing someone trying to come in and push a challenge that we're 
up against as a reason to sell.


If you feel what I am saying doesn't hold water... then ignore me :)

JohnnyO

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JohnnyO wrote:
Gloom and Doom - Interesting Tactic there Liotta.. Im sorry - but 
Calea is not a reason for anyone to sell their business. The Fat lady has 
not nor will not sing on this issue.


Not sure how you can say what is and is not a valid reason for someone 
else to sell their business. Some people feel it is important to comply 
with CALEA, while others don't. I'm not interested in that debate.


Simply put, I am aware that some people feel CALEA may put them out of 
business and would like to exit before then. If you are one of those 
people contact me. If you are not one of those people then simply ignore 
me.


-Matt

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RE: [WISPA] ping

2007-05-07 Thread Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless
Lol.

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YAY!


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Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?

2007-05-07 Thread Matt Liotta

JohnnyO wrote:
Well Matt - not one of those people which would be me - will not 
ignore the fact of what you're stating is a valid reason for selling 
out due to Calea. I simply will voice my opinion on the matter.


I never stated anything of the sort. What people decide to do with their 
business is their concern and not mine. If you are going to voice your 
opinion on a fact you should probably get the fact correct to start 
with. If someone wants to sell their business because of a bad hair day 
I don't mind talking to the person. I would mind if suddenly someone 
starting trying to argue that I am suggesting a bad hair day is a valid 
reason.
I am sure that more will agree vs. disagree with me that selling out 
your company due to a Calea hurdle is not a good reason to sell. And I 
really don't like seeing someone trying to come in and push a 
challenge that we're up against as a reason to sell.


I am not pushing anything. CALEA is a regulation put on businesses by 
the Government; not me. It's not my fault CALEA exists. Maybe you should 
spend your time helping all these companies worried about CALEA 
compliance as opposed to worrying about me. Clearly they can use your 
help since you don't seem to think CALEA is much a of hurdle.


-Matt

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

2007-05-07 Thread Matt Liotta

Mike Hammett wrote:

http://www.exaltcom.com/

Anyone else heard of these guys?  I'm guessing since bob is keeping up 
on them, they're worth keeping up on.



We have deployed Exalt radios and find the have a pretty unique offering.

-Matt

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Re: [WISPA] commercial router

2007-05-07 Thread Jory Privett
Try a Barracuda Web Filter.  Not sure how good they work but their 
Spamfilter works pretty good.


Jory Privett
WCCS

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] commercial router


You got it, Matt, and that is why I ask how to do it with MT.  My 
SonicWall subscription service works great for this, but if someone knows 
a way to do it in MT, that would be awesome.


Matt Liotta wrote:
That isn't content filtering as most in the industry would define it. 
Anyone can drop packets based upon metrics such as destination IP. 
Generally, when people ask for content filtering they are looking for 
high level policies that can block certain types of content e.g. porn. If 
you want to block porn, you are not going to be able to keep a list of 
IP/hostnames that are known porn sites. You need something more 
sophisticated. How sophisticated? Try answering the question, what is 
porn? Is a picture of a naked human porn? What about babies? What about 
medical imaging? Will someone's porn be someone else's art? Who decides?


The folks I have talked who want content filtered don't want to have to 
decide what specifically is filtered. They just want their ass covered in 
case something comes up. This is where having a 3rd party who is in the 
business helps. That 3rd party needs to be compensated in order to take 
on the liability of content filtering, which is quite serious. I'd hate 
to be on the wrong side of this issue, whichever side it was.


-Matt

Smith, Rick wrote:

again, Mikrotik.

Even 2.7 had it
http://www.mikrotik.com/documentation//manual_2.7/IP/Firewall.html

Under Marking the Packets (Mangle) and Changing
content (text; default: ) - the text packets should contain in order
to match the rule

I use 2.8.38 at a school to filter out everything to do with myspace.com


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Need content filtering.

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You can't get away from Mikrotik! :)
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Hi All,

I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content
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Prices?

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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

2007-05-07 Thread Mike Hammett

http://www.exaltcom.com/

Anyone else heard of these guys?  I'm guessing since bob is keeping up on 
them, they're worth keeping up on.



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Exalt real soon

Bob
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Redline has a certified product released.  Orthogon is about to have theirs 
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Re: [WISPA] commercial router

2007-05-07 Thread Steve
check squidguard with squidcache.  not commercial, but cheap..

http://www.squidguard.org/

http://squidguard.mesd.k12.or.us/

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Re: [WISPA] commercial router

2007-05-07 Thread Mike Hammett

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=4293highlight=surfcontrol


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Hi All,

I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content 
filtering.


What are people using these days?

Prices?

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Re: [WISPA] ping

2007-05-07 Thread lakeland
Ding. Ding

Lol
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Lol.

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YAY!


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[WISPA] Useful book from DOJ

2007-05-07 Thread John Valenti
This book showed up in my mailbox at MSU one day. I ignored it for a  
while, but looked it over last week and found some interesting info.  
Probably most useful to a startup WISP, it has some sample subpoena  
(s), court orders, etc.  Basic info on ECPA, etc.


The full PDF is linked from this page:

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/nij/pubs-sum/210798.htm

Investigations Involving the Internet and Computer Networks
By National Institute of Justice
January 2007

This NIJ Special Report is intended as a resource for individuals  
responsible for investigations involving the use of the Internet and  
other computer networks. Any crime could involve devices that  
communicate through the Internet or through a network. Criminals may  
use the Internet for numerous reasons, including trading/sharing  
information (e.g., documents, photographs), concealing their  
identity, and gathering information on victims. The report is among a  
series of guides on investigating electronic crime.

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RE: [WISPA] PortaOne? -- another VoIP Softswitch company

2007-05-07 Thread Charles Wu
If VoIP softswitches is something that you're actively investigating,
you may want to look into Netsapiens

www.netsapiens.com

What's interesting is that their primary focus is on independent ISPs /
WISPs / etc

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I'd be interested to know if anyone has used their soft switch.
Apparently all the pieces bundled together can be purchased for $66,000.
That's a very attractive price for a soft switch of this quality. - cw

Zack Kneisley wrote:
 Anyone have an opinion on this companies offerings? They now 
 apparently work seamlessly with Mikrotik.
 
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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

2007-05-07 Thread Dylan Oliver

Brett Bonomo and Greg VanDell of Exalt provided amazing pre-sales support
when I inquired about their 4.9 GHz gear for an RFP a few weeks ago. Exalt
takes the cake in 4.9 GHz because of high guaranteed throughput (up to 55
Mbps goodput with 20 MHz channel) and sync, which would allow many more than
two links to be deployed from a central location. They can also do
sub-millisecond latency (or up to 5 ms for maximum throughput) and have
adjustable channel sizes - down to 5 MHz, I believe, with 1 MHz spacing - to
help one fit into cluttered spectrum. All of these things apply to the
5.xtri-band product, except that it can do 13 Mbps (in 8 MHz) to 216
Mbps (in
64 MHz). The integrated tri-band radio/antenna looks like the most flexible
option out there right now for shorter links where any of the three bands
would work.

On 5/7/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://www.exaltcom.com/

Anyone else heard of these guys?  I'm guessing since bob is keeping up on
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Exalt real soon

Bob
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Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

Redline has a certified product released.  Orthogon is about to have
theirs
out.  Anyone else?


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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

2007-05-07 Thread George Rogato

How much?


Dylan Oliver wrote:

Brett Bonomo and Greg VanDell of Exalt provided amazing pre-sales support
when I inquired about their 4.9 GHz gear for an RFP a few weeks ago. Exalt
takes the cake in 4.9 GHz because of high guaranteed throughput (up to 55
Mbps goodput with 20 MHz channel) and sync, which would allow many more 
than

two links to be deployed from a central location. They can also do
sub-millisecond latency (or up to 5 ms for maximum throughput) and have
adjustable channel sizes - down to 5 MHz, I believe, with 1 MHz spacing 
- to

help one fit into cluttered spectrum. All of these things apply to the
5.xtri-band product, except that it can do 13 Mbps (in 8 MHz) to 216
Mbps (in
64 MHz). The integrated tri-band radio/antenna looks like the most flexible
option out there right now for shorter links where any of the three bands
would work.

On 5/7/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://www.exaltcom.com/

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Re: [WISPA] PortaOne? -- another VoIP Softswitch company

2007-05-07 Thread Peter R.

There are about 1200 VoIP Providers.
Many are doing wholesale targeting the ISP market, because Retail is too 
hard and / or expensive, unless you segment the market and do niche 
selling.


There are LOTS of softswitches.

The truth is that Asterisk is a fine softswitch since most VoIP services 
do not see more than 300 simultaneous calls.

At 4 to 1, that's 1200 lines. That would make you Big.
On a good Proliant server, you could easily run 300 calls.
Of course, your router would have to be able to handle 300 I/O requests 
from the switch + all the other I/O requests, so you would need a strong 
box.


- Peter

Charles Wu wrote:


If VoIP softswitches is something that you're actively investigating,
you may want to look into Netsapiens

www.netsapiens.com

What's interesting is that their primary focus is on independent ISPs /
WISPs / etc

-Charles 




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I'd be interested to know if anyone has used their soft switch.
Apparently all the pieces bundled together can be purchased for $66,000.
That's a very attractive price for a soft switch of this quality. - cw

 


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Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?

2007-05-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

Oh brother.

Did you know that there has NEVER been a CALEA non compliance action?

I can think of a lot of reasons to get out of the business but CALEA isn't 
even on the list let alone near the top.


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In discussions with others it has come to my attention that several 
companies are looking to exit the business for various reasons not the 
least of which is CALEA. If you're serious about exploring an exit, 
contact me offlist. I am interested in a variety of options from taking a 
controlling interest to an outright cash buyout.


I don't want to sound like a vulture, but the CALEA deadline is coming 
fast and it will become increasingly difficult to sell a business that is 
not compliant after the deadline passes.


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Re: [WISPA] commercial router

2007-05-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
It's a small private school/business.  Think Amish but they do have 
computers


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Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:03 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router


Marlon,

The two that I've encountered most in the field are the Allot
NetEnforcer and Packeteer's products.  The Allot software has gotten
much better recently with detecting 'bad' traffic that gets routed
through standard ports (80/443/20/21,etc).  And Packeteer has some good
content caching patents.  Both of their prices are high though.  Here's
a decent write-up, it's a little old:

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,901491,00.asp

Though neither of those are a true 'router' but more of a gateway that
would sit behind the router, so I don't know if that's what you are
looking for.

I could also recommend some open source projects for the DIY person. L7
Filter, DansGuardian, ntop, etc are the standouts.  Also, most of the
open source firewalls also do basic string matching on urls:
*myspace.com for instance. Going down that route I would look at
m0n0wall and smoothwall, both of which I've used with success.

Are they trying to eliminate types of traffic (P2P) or are they trying
to block specific sites?  Some of the cheaper products do one and not
the other.  The better content filters have a subscription type system
to do remote updates periodically to the product for an updated list
with new proxies and sites they've flagged as bad (think Norton).  There
are some other products out there like photo no-no (www.photonono.com)
that actually filter images on the fly.  Though they were very hesitant
to send me benchmarks when I was talking to them a while back so you
probably need some horsepower to use them at scale.


Regards,

Kris Efland
IntraMeta Corporation
 t. 972.231.5999
 f. 972.231.7022
 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Subject: [WISPA] commercial router

Hi All,

I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content
filtering.

What are people using these days?

Prices?

thanks,
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RE: [WISPA] commercial router

2007-05-07 Thread Kris R Efland
Marlon,

That being the case, I would do something simple like the L7 Filter or
DansGuardian, quick and easy and best of all, cheap.  I think a lot of
the suggestions are overkill for what you are describing.

 

Regards,

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Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 6:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] commercial router

It's a small private school/business.  Think Amish but they do have 
computers

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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:03 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router


Marlon,

The two that I've encountered most in the field are the Allot
NetEnforcer and Packeteer's products.  The Allot software has gotten
much better recently with detecting 'bad' traffic that gets routed
through standard ports (80/443/20/21,etc).  And Packeteer has some good
content caching patents.  Both of their prices are high though.  Here's
a decent write-up, it's a little old:

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,901491,00.asp

Though neither of those are a true 'router' but more of a gateway that
would sit behind the router, so I don't know if that's what you are
looking for.

I could also recommend some open source projects for the DIY person. L7
Filter, DansGuardian, ntop, etc are the standouts.  Also, most of the
open source firewalls also do basic string matching on urls:
*myspace.com for instance. Going down that route I would look at
m0n0wall and smoothwall, both of which I've used with success.

Are they trying to eliminate types of traffic (P2P) or are they trying
to block specific sites?  Some of the cheaper products do one and not
the other.  The better content filters have a subscription type system
to do remote updates periodically to the product for an updated list
with new proxies and sites they've flagged as bad (think Norton).  There
are some other products out there like photo no-no (www.photonono.com)
that actually filter images on the fly.  Though they were very hesitant
to send me benchmarks when I was talking to them a while back so you
probably need some horsepower to use them at scale.


Regards,

Kris Efland
IntraMeta Corporation
  t. 972.231.5999
  f. 972.231.7022
  e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
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Subject: [WISPA] commercial router

Hi All,

I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content
filtering.

What are people using these days?

Prices?

thanks,
Marlon
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RE: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

2007-05-07 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
Greg used to be with DragonWave.

I think that they a have a quality product. The fact that you can change the
channel size is very nice. I really like my Orthogon radios, but definitely
will look at exalt on my next 5.xGhz backhaul.

Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC
320-256-WISP (9477)
320-256-9478 Fax
 
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Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 5:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz

Brett Bonomo and Greg VanDell of Exalt provided amazing pre-sales support
when I inquired about their 4.9 GHz gear for an RFP a few weeks ago. Exalt
takes the cake in 4.9 GHz because of high guaranteed throughput (up to 55
Mbps goodput with 20 MHz channel) and sync, which would allow many more than
two links to be deployed from a central location. They can also do
sub-millisecond latency (or up to 5 ms for maximum throughput) and have
adjustable channel sizes - down to 5 MHz, I believe, with 1 MHz spacing - to
help one fit into cluttered spectrum. All of these things apply to the
5.xtri-band product, except that it can do 13 Mbps (in 8 MHz) to 216
Mbps (in
64 MHz). The integrated tri-band radio/antenna looks like the most flexible
option out there right now for shorter links where any of the three bands
would work.

On 5/7/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.exaltcom.com/

 Anyone else heard of these guys?  I'm guessing since bob is keeping up on
 them, they're worth keeping up on.


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 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com


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 Exalt real soon

 Bob
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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 Redline has a certified product released.  Orthogon is about to have
 theirs
 out.  Anyone else?


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Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?

2007-05-07 Thread Dawn DiPietro

Marlon,

To be honest with you I think some WISP's are in over their heads at 
this point. This is just an opportunity for them to get out gracefully 
if they choose to do so.


Regards,
Dawn DiPietro



Did you know that there has NEVER been a CALEA non compliance action?

I can think of a lot of reasons to get out of the business but CALEA 
isn't even on the list let alone near the top.


Marlon
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(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
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1999!

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www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:27 PM
Subject: [WISPA] are you for sale?


In discussions with others it has come to my attention that several 
companies are looking to exit the business for various reasons not 
the least of which is CALEA. If you're serious about exploring an 
exit, contact me offlist. I am interested in a variety of options 
from taking a controlling interest to an outright cash buyout.


I don't want to sound like a vulture, but the CALEA deadline is 
coming fast and it will become increasingly difficult to sell a 
business that is not compliant after the deadline passes.


-Matt
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Re: [WISPA] commercial router

2007-05-07 Thread Tim Kerns
Look at Sonic Wall, they have a subscription service for filtering, but will 
set you back $700-$1000.



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To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:21 AM
Subject: [WISPA] commercial router



Hi All,

I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content 
filtering.


What are people using these days?

Prices?

thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?

2007-05-07 Thread JohnnyO
Dawn - the way I see it is that this is a way for a company with deep 
pockets to come in and buy up some companies at below market value. To use 
CALEA as a marketing tool for such is in my book completely out of line. 
Well I guess it isn't depending on who you are...


NOONE is over their heads with CALEA at the moment. Jeeesh - let's let this 
play out before anyone goes on a doom and gloom campaign.


JohnnyO
- Original Message - 
From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?



Marlon,

To be honest with you I think some WISP's are in over their heads at this 
point. This is just an opportunity for them to get out gracefully if they 
choose to do so.


Regards,
Dawn DiPietro



Did you know that there has NEVER been a CALEA non compliance action?

I can think of a lot of reasons to get out of the business but CALEA 
isn't even on the list let alone near the top.


Marlon
(509) 982-2181
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 
1999!

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:27 PM
Subject: [WISPA] are you for sale?


In discussions with others it has come to my attention that several 
companies are looking to exit the business for various reasons not the 
least of which is CALEA. If you're serious about exploring an exit, 
contact me offlist. I am interested in a variety of options from taking 
a controlling interest to an outright cash buyout.


I don't want to sound like a vulture, but the CALEA deadline is coming 
fast and it will become increasingly difficult to sell a business that 
is not compliant after the deadline passes.


-Matt
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Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?

2007-05-07 Thread Peter R.

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


Oh brother.

Did you know that there has NEVER been a CALEA non compliance action?

I can think of a lot of reasons to get out of the business but CALEA 
isn't even on the list let alone near the top.


Marlon


Because only telcos were subject to CALEA - and all class 4/5 switches from the big vendors are tappable.  


The same can not be said of routers and other broadband gear and all VoIP gear.

Also, BB CALEA has only been done at the Olympics by a special team.


But MA activity has been increasing in the last few months - for many reasons. 
 This would just be one more reason to sell - call it: not wanting to put up with 
the BS or the liability.

Get those plans filed you have less than a week.

- Peter

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Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?

2007-05-07 Thread Dawn DiPietro

Johnny,

I NEVER said anyone was in over their heads in regards to CALEA. I was 
talking in general. So don't go putting words into my mouth. What makes 
you think these companies won't be offered fair market value? Another 
assumption?


Regards,
Dawn DiPietro


JohnnyO wrote:
Dawn - the way I see it is that this is a way for a company with deep 
pockets to come in and buy up some companies at below market value. To 
use CALEA as a marketing tool for such is in my book completely out of 
line. Well I guess it isn't depending on who you are...


NOONE is over their heads with CALEA at the moment. Jeeesh - let's let 
this play out before anyone goes on a doom and gloom campaign.


JohnnyO
- Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?



Marlon,

To be honest with you I think some WISP's are in over their heads at 
this point. This is just an opportunity for them to get out 
gracefully if they choose to do so.


Regards,
Dawn DiPietro



Did you know that there has NEVER been a CALEA non compliance action?

I can think of a lot of reasons to get out of the business but CALEA 
isn't even on the list let alone near the top.


Marlon
(509) 982-2181
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)WISP Operator 
since 1999!

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:27 PM
Subject: [WISPA] are you for sale?


In discussions with others it has come to my attention that several 
companies are looking to exit the business for various reasons not 
the least of which is CALEA. If you're serious about exploring an 
exit, contact me offlist. I am interested in a variety of options 
from taking a controlling interest to an outright cash buyout.


I don't want to sound like a vulture, but the CALEA deadline is 
coming fast and it will become increasingly difficult to sell a 
business that is not compliant after the deadline passes.


-Matt
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Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?

2007-05-07 Thread JohnnyO

Dawn - I never said YOU SAID that .. Wanna talk about assumptions ?

JohnnyO
- Original Message - 
From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?



Johnny,

I NEVER said anyone was in over their heads in regards to CALEA. I was 
talking in general. So don't go putting words into my mouth. What makes 
you think these companies won't be offered fair market value? Another 
assumption?


Regards,
Dawn DiPietro


JohnnyO wrote:
Dawn - the way I see it is that this is a way for a company with deep 
pockets to come in and buy up some companies at below market value. To 
use CALEA as a marketing tool for such is in my book completely out of 
line. Well I guess it isn't depending on who you are...


NOONE is over their heads with CALEA at the moment. Jeeesh - let's let 
this play out before anyone goes on a doom and gloom campaign.


JohnnyO
- Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?



Marlon,

To be honest with you I think some WISP's are in over their heads at 
this point. This is just an opportunity for them to get out 
gracefully if they choose to do so.


Regards,
Dawn DiPietro



Did you know that there has NEVER been a CALEA non compliance action?

I can think of a lot of reasons to get out of the business but CALEA 
isn't even on the list let alone near the top.


Marlon
(509) 982-2181
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)WISP Operator 
since 1999!

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:27 PM
Subject: [WISPA] are you for sale?


In discussions with others it has come to my attention that several 
companies are looking to exit the business for various reasons not 
the least of which is CALEA. If you're serious about exploring an 
exit, contact me offlist. I am interested in a variety of options 
from taking a controlling interest to an outright cash buyout.


I don't want to sound like a vulture, but the CALEA deadline is 
coming fast and it will become increasingly difficult to sell a 
business that is not compliant after the deadline passes.


-Matt
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Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?

2007-05-07 Thread JohnnyO
Oh - why did I assume anything when you specifically said the 
following..


Marlon,


**To be honest with you I think some WISP's are in over their heads 
at this point.** This is just an opportunity for them to get out 
gracefully if they choose to do so.

Regards,
Dawn DiPietro


Dawn - this was started around the CALEA compliance issue... What would be a 
good opportunity for them to get out when the discussion is about Matt 
offering companies a way to sell out due to CALEA compliance


JohnnyO

- Original Message - 
From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?



Johnny,

I NEVER said anyone was in over their heads in regards to CALEA. I was 
talking in general. So don't go putting words into my mouth. What makes 
you think these companies won't be offered fair market value? Another 
assumption?


Regards,
Dawn DiPietro


JohnnyO wrote:
Dawn - the way I see it is that this is a way for a company with deep 
pockets to come in and buy up some companies at below market value. To 
use CALEA as a marketing tool for such is in my book completely out of 
line. Well I guess it isn't depending on who you are...


NOONE is over their heads with CALEA at the moment. Jeeesh - let's let 
this play out before anyone goes on a doom and gloom campaign.


JohnnyO
- Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?



Marlon,

To be honest with you I think some WISP's are in over their heads at 
this point. This is just an opportunity for them to get out gracefully 
if they choose to do so.


Regards,
Dawn DiPietro



Did you know that there has NEVER been a CALEA non compliance action?

I can think of a lot of reasons to get out of the business but CALEA 
isn't even on the list let alone near the top.


Marlon
(509) 982-2181
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 
1999!

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:27 PM
Subject: [WISPA] are you for sale?


In discussions with others it has come to my attention that several 
companies are looking to exit the business for various reasons not the 
least of which is CALEA. If you're serious about exploring an exit, 
contact me offlist. I am interested in a variety of options from 
taking a controlling interest to an outright cash buyout.


I don't want to sound like a vulture, but the CALEA deadline is coming 
fast and it will become increasingly difficult to sell a business that 
is not compliant after the deadline passes.


-Matt
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[WISPA] Camera recommendation

2007-05-07 Thread George Rogato

I need to do some outdoor ip security cams and server. I need for 3 cams.
Not really looking for pan tilt zoom as much as clarity and wider angle lens
My customers budget for the cams and server software is bout 2k,

Any recommendations?
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RE: [WISPA] Hotspot setup

2007-05-07 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
Why knock your self out, use the two finger lock, windows key and L

Chuck Profito
209-988-7388
CV-ACCESS, INC
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Providing High Speed Broadband 
to Rural Central California


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Behalf Of J. Vogel
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:41 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot setup


Is it possible to use MT Hotspot feature with clients that already have
a public static IP address? I have a client that wants to be able to turn
off their Internet Access when not being used.. they have a couple of
computers in their office that unauthorized people may have access to
when they step out of the office for a minute or two, and want to prevent
those unauthorized people from using the computer(s) to access the internet.

The set up is like this...

client computers connected to a D-Link router, NAT/DHCP addressing.
The D-Link has a static public IP on the WAN side.
The D-Link accesses the Internet through a Tranzeo CPE configured in
bridge mode, which is associated to the MT Access point.
It is at this point that I would like to configure the hotspot, but only for
this one client.

Further info...
The MT AP is also acting as a transparent bridge, receiving traffic on
the AP side, and sending it to the network Gateway out ether1 (which
goes through two more transparent bridges before it gets to the GW).
The MT that is acting as AP for this client is on OS 2.9.35

The MT AP currently has a private IP address. I could put a public IP
on it and switch it to a routed segment at some point, but would rather
not have to do that before setting this hotspot up for this client if
that is
at all possible.

My thoughts are that it would be great to intercept traffic coming from the
customer's public IP and direct it to the hotspot's walled garden until they
provide a username and password, the enable access until they either log
out or are inactive for a given number of minutes, or possible after a
maximum length of time. I know that I can use the MT to direct traffic
to a walled garden manually (I have used it like that to manually disable a
customer's access) but would like to use it with the client login/logout
feature.

If someone has some pointers, or is willing to help me set this up, I would
greatly appreciate any help.

John Vogel

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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot setup

2007-05-07 Thread J. Vogel
Does that work on Win98?

John Vogel


CHUCK PROFITO wrote:
 Why knock your self out, use the two finger lock, windows key and L

 Chuck Profito
 209-988-7388
 CV-ACCESS, INC
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Providing High Speed Broadband 
 to Rural Central California


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of J. Vogel
 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:41 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot setup


 Is it possible to use MT Hotspot feature with clients that already have
 a public static IP address? I have a client that wants to be able to turn
 off their Internet Access when not being used.. they have a couple of
 computers in their office that unauthorized people may have access to
 when they step out of the office for a minute or two, and want to prevent
 those unauthorized people from using the computer(s) to access the internet.

 The set up is like this...

 client computers connected to a D-Link router, NAT/DHCP addressing.
 The D-Link has a static public IP on the WAN side.
 The D-Link accesses the Internet through a Tranzeo CPE configured in
 bridge mode, which is associated to the MT Access point.
 It is at this point that I would like to configure the hotspot, but only for
 this one client.

 Further info...
 The MT AP is also acting as a transparent bridge, receiving traffic on
 the AP side, and sending it to the network Gateway out ether1 (which
 goes through two more transparent bridges before it gets to the GW).
 The MT that is acting as AP for this client is on OS 2.9.35

 The MT AP currently has a private IP address. I could put a public IP
 on it and switch it to a routed segment at some point, but would rather
 not have to do that before setting this hotspot up for this client if
 that is
 at all possible.

 My thoughts are that it would be great to intercept traffic coming from the
 customer's public IP and direct it to the hotspot's walled garden until they
 provide a username and password, the enable access until they either log
 out or are inactive for a given number of minutes, or possible after a
 maximum length of time. I know that I can use the MT to direct traffic
 to a walled garden manually (I have used it like that to manually disable a
 customer's access) but would like to use it with the client login/logout
 feature.

 If someone has some pointers, or is willing to help me set this up, I would
 greatly appreciate any help.

 John Vogel

   

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Re: [WISPA] commercial router

2007-05-07 Thread Jeromie Reeves

I would suggest a content filter on each PC. I have a client that uses
something called BeSafe. I think the URL is www.besafe.com  I have
little contact with the software so I can not tell you much about it.
The client is a church ran store similar to TSA.

On 5/7/07, Tim Kerns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Look at Sonic Wall, they have a subscription service for filtering, but will
set you back $700-$1000.


- Original Message -
From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:21 AM
Subject: [WISPA] commercial router


 Hi All,

 I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content
 filtering.

 What are people using these days?

 Prices?

 thanks,
 Marlon
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RE: [WISPA] Hotspot setup

2007-05-07 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
I don't know. But since 98 is no longer supported sell them an xp pro
upgrade. Then it will work. And you'll make some money. 

Chuck Profito
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to Rural Central California


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of J. Vogel
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 8:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot setup


Does that work on Win98?

John Vogel


CHUCK PROFITO wrote:
 Why knock your self out, use the two finger lock, windows key and L

 Chuck Profito
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 to Rural Central California


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of J. Vogel
 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:41 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot setup


 Is it possible to use MT Hotspot feature with clients that already have
 a public static IP address? I have a client that wants to be able to turn
 off their Internet Access when not being used.. they have a couple of
 computers in their office that unauthorized people may have access to
 when they step out of the office for a minute or two, and want to prevent
 those unauthorized people from using the computer(s) to access the
internet.

 The set up is like this...

 client computers connected to a D-Link router, NAT/DHCP addressing.
 The D-Link has a static public IP on the WAN side.
 The D-Link accesses the Internet through a Tranzeo CPE configured in
 bridge mode, which is associated to the MT Access point.
 It is at this point that I would like to configure the hotspot, but only
for
 this one client.

 Further info...
 The MT AP is also acting as a transparent bridge, receiving traffic on
 the AP side, and sending it to the network Gateway out ether1 (which
 goes through two more transparent bridges before it gets to the GW).
 The MT that is acting as AP for this client is on OS 2.9.35

 The MT AP currently has a private IP address. I could put a public IP
 on it and switch it to a routed segment at some point, but would rather
 not have to do that before setting this hotspot up for this client if
 that is
 at all possible.

 My thoughts are that it would be great to intercept traffic coming from
the
 customer's public IP and direct it to the hotspot's walled garden until
they
 provide a username and password, the enable access until they either log
 out or are inactive for a given number of minutes, or possible after a
 maximum length of time. I know that I can use the MT to direct traffic
 to a walled garden manually (I have used it like that to manually disable
a
 customer's access) but would like to use it with the client login/logout
 feature.

 If someone has some pointers, or is willing to help me set this up, I
would
 greatly appreciate any help.

 John Vogel

   

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