RE: [WISPA] Hotspot setup
I don't know. But since 98 is no longer supported sell them an xp pro upgrade. Then it will work. And you'll make some money. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Vogel Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 8:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot setup Does that work on Win98? John Vogel CHUCK PROFITO wrote: > Why knock your self out, use the two finger lock, "windows key and L" > > Chuck Profito > 209-988-7388 > CV-ACCESS, INC > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Providing High Speed Broadband > to Rural Central California > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of J. Vogel > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:41 PM > To: wireless@wispa.org > Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot setup > > > Is it possible to use MT Hotspot feature with clients that already have > a public static IP address? I have a client that wants to be able to turn > off their Internet Access when not being used.. they have a couple of > computers in their office that unauthorized people may have access to > when they step out of the office for a minute or two, and want to prevent > those unauthorized people from using the computer(s) to access the internet. > > The set up is like this... > > client computers connected to a D-Link router, NAT/DHCP addressing. > The D-Link has a static public IP on the WAN side. > The D-Link accesses the Internet through a Tranzeo CPE configured in > bridge mode, which is associated to the MT Access point. > It is at this point that I would like to configure the hotspot, but only for > this one client. > > Further info... > The MT AP is also acting as a transparent bridge, receiving traffic on > the AP side, and sending it to the network Gateway out ether1 (which > goes through two more transparent bridges before it gets to the GW). > The MT that is acting as AP for this client is on OS 2.9.35 > > The MT AP currently has a private IP address. I could put a public IP > on it and switch it to a routed segment at some point, but would rather > not have to do that before setting this hotspot up for this client if > that is > at all possible. > > My thoughts are that it would be great to intercept traffic coming from the > customer's public IP and direct it to the hotspot's walled garden until they > provide a username and password, the enable access until they either log > out or are inactive for a given number of minutes, or possible after a > maximum length of time. I know that I can use the MT to direct traffic > to a walled garden manually (I have used it like that to manually disable a > customer's access) but would like to use it with the client login/logout > feature. > > If someone has some pointers, or is willing to help me set this up, I would > greatly appreciate any help. > > John Vogel > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
I would suggest a content filter on each PC. I have a client that uses something called BeSafe. I think the URL is www.besafe.com I have little contact with the software so I can not tell you much about it. The client is a church ran store similar to TSA. On 5/7/07, Tim Kerns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Look at Sonic Wall, they have a subscription service for filtering, but will set you back $700-$1000. - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:21 AM Subject: [WISPA] commercial router > Hi All, > > I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content > filtering. > > What are people using these days? > > Prices? > > thanks, > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since > 1999! > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotspot setup
Does that work on Win98? John Vogel CHUCK PROFITO wrote: > Why knock your self out, use the two finger lock, "windows key and L" > > Chuck Profito > 209-988-7388 > CV-ACCESS, INC > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Providing High Speed Broadband > to Rural Central California > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of J. Vogel > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:41 PM > To: wireless@wispa.org > Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot setup > > > Is it possible to use MT Hotspot feature with clients that already have > a public static IP address? I have a client that wants to be able to turn > off their Internet Access when not being used.. they have a couple of > computers in their office that unauthorized people may have access to > when they step out of the office for a minute or two, and want to prevent > those unauthorized people from using the computer(s) to access the internet. > > The set up is like this... > > client computers connected to a D-Link router, NAT/DHCP addressing. > The D-Link has a static public IP on the WAN side. > The D-Link accesses the Internet through a Tranzeo CPE configured in > bridge mode, which is associated to the MT Access point. > It is at this point that I would like to configure the hotspot, but only for > this one client. > > Further info... > The MT AP is also acting as a transparent bridge, receiving traffic on > the AP side, and sending it to the network Gateway out ether1 (which > goes through two more transparent bridges before it gets to the GW). > The MT that is acting as AP for this client is on OS 2.9.35 > > The MT AP currently has a private IP address. I could put a public IP > on it and switch it to a routed segment at some point, but would rather > not have to do that before setting this hotspot up for this client if > that is > at all possible. > > My thoughts are that it would be great to intercept traffic coming from the > customer's public IP and direct it to the hotspot's walled garden until they > provide a username and password, the enable access until they either log > out or are inactive for a given number of minutes, or possible after a > maximum length of time. I know that I can use the MT to direct traffic > to a walled garden manually (I have used it like that to manually disable a > customer's access) but would like to use it with the client login/logout > feature. > > If someone has some pointers, or is willing to help me set this up, I would > greatly appreciate any help. > > John Vogel > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Hotspot setup
Why knock your self out, use the two finger lock, "windows key and L" Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Vogel Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:41 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot setup Is it possible to use MT Hotspot feature with clients that already have a public static IP address? I have a client that wants to be able to turn off their Internet Access when not being used.. they have a couple of computers in their office that unauthorized people may have access to when they step out of the office for a minute or two, and want to prevent those unauthorized people from using the computer(s) to access the internet. The set up is like this... client computers connected to a D-Link router, NAT/DHCP addressing. The D-Link has a static public IP on the WAN side. The D-Link accesses the Internet through a Tranzeo CPE configured in bridge mode, which is associated to the MT Access point. It is at this point that I would like to configure the hotspot, but only for this one client. Further info... The MT AP is also acting as a transparent bridge, receiving traffic on the AP side, and sending it to the network Gateway out ether1 (which goes through two more transparent bridges before it gets to the GW). The MT that is acting as AP for this client is on OS 2.9.35 The MT AP currently has a private IP address. I could put a public IP on it and switch it to a routed segment at some point, but would rather not have to do that before setting this hotspot up for this client if that is at all possible. My thoughts are that it would be great to intercept traffic coming from the customer's public IP and direct it to the hotspot's walled garden until they provide a username and password, the enable access until they either log out or are inactive for a given number of minutes, or possible after a maximum length of time. I know that I can use the MT to direct traffic to a walled garden manually (I have used it like that to manually disable a customer's access) but would like to use it with the client login/logout feature. If someone has some pointers, or is willing to help me set this up, I would greatly appreciate any help. John Vogel -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Camera recommendation
I need to do some outdoor ip security cams and server. I need for 3 cams. Not really looking for pan tilt zoom as much as clarity and wider angle lens My customers budget for the cams and server software is bout 2k, Any recommendations? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?
Oh - why did I "assume" anything when you specifically said the following.. Marlon, **To be honest with you I think some WISP's are in over their heads at this point.** This is just an opportunity for them to get out gracefully if they choose to do so. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Dawn - this was started around the CALEA compliance issue... What would be a good opportunity for them to get out when the discussion is about Matt offering companies a way to sell out due to CALEA compliance JohnnyO - Original Message - From: "Dawn DiPietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] are you for sale? Johnny, I NEVER said anyone was in over their heads in regards to CALEA. I was talking in general. So don't go putting words into my mouth. What makes you think these companies won't be offered fair market value? Another assumption? Regards, Dawn DiPietro JohnnyO wrote: Dawn - the way I see it is that this is a way for a company with deep pockets to come in and buy up some companies at below market value. To use CALEA as a marketing tool for such is in my book completely out of line. Well I guess it isn't depending on who you are... NOONE is over their heads with CALEA at the moment. Jeeesh - let's let this play out before anyone goes on a doom and gloom campaign. JohnnyO - Original Message - From: "Dawn DiPietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] are you for sale? Marlon, To be honest with you I think some WISP's are in over their heads at this point. This is just an opportunity for them to get out gracefully if they choose to do so. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Did you know that there has NEVER been a CALEA non compliance action? I can think of a lot of reasons to get out of the business but CALEA isn't even on the list let alone near the top. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:27 PM Subject: [WISPA] are you for sale? In discussions with others it has come to my attention that several companies are looking to exit the business for various reasons not the least of which is CALEA. If you're serious about exploring an exit, contact me offlist. I am interested in a variety of options from taking a controlling interest to an outright cash buyout. I don't want to sound like a vulture, but the CALEA deadline is coming fast and it will become increasingly difficult to sell a business that is not compliant after the deadline passes. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?
Dawn - I never said YOU SAID that .. Wanna talk about assumptions ? JohnnyO - Original Message - From: "Dawn DiPietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] are you for sale? Johnny, I NEVER said anyone was in over their heads in regards to CALEA. I was talking in general. So don't go putting words into my mouth. What makes you think these companies won't be offered fair market value? Another assumption? Regards, Dawn DiPietro JohnnyO wrote: Dawn - the way I see it is that this is a way for a company with deep pockets to come in and buy up some companies at below market value. To use CALEA as a marketing tool for such is in my book completely out of line. Well I guess it isn't depending on who you are... NOONE is over their heads with CALEA at the moment. Jeeesh - let's let this play out before anyone goes on a doom and gloom campaign. JohnnyO - Original Message - From: "Dawn DiPietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] are you for sale? Marlon, To be honest with you I think some WISP's are in over their heads at this point. This is just an opportunity for them to get out gracefully if they choose to do so. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Did you know that there has NEVER been a CALEA non compliance action? I can think of a lot of reasons to get out of the business but CALEA isn't even on the list let alone near the top. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:27 PM Subject: [WISPA] are you for sale? In discussions with others it has come to my attention that several companies are looking to exit the business for various reasons not the least of which is CALEA. If you're serious about exploring an exit, contact me offlist. I am interested in a variety of options from taking a controlling interest to an outright cash buyout. I don't want to sound like a vulture, but the CALEA deadline is coming fast and it will become increasingly difficult to sell a business that is not compliant after the deadline passes. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?
Johnny, I NEVER said anyone was in over their heads in regards to CALEA. I was talking in general. So don't go putting words into my mouth. What makes you think these companies won't be offered fair market value? Another assumption? Regards, Dawn DiPietro JohnnyO wrote: Dawn - the way I see it is that this is a way for a company with deep pockets to come in and buy up some companies at below market value. To use CALEA as a marketing tool for such is in my book completely out of line. Well I guess it isn't depending on who you are... NOONE is over their heads with CALEA at the moment. Jeeesh - let's let this play out before anyone goes on a doom and gloom campaign. JohnnyO - Original Message - From: "Dawn DiPietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] are you for sale? Marlon, To be honest with you I think some WISP's are in over their heads at this point. This is just an opportunity for them to get out gracefully if they choose to do so. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Did you know that there has NEVER been a CALEA non compliance action? I can think of a lot of reasons to get out of the business but CALEA isn't even on the list let alone near the top. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:27 PM Subject: [WISPA] are you for sale? In discussions with others it has come to my attention that several companies are looking to exit the business for various reasons not the least of which is CALEA. If you're serious about exploring an exit, contact me offlist. I am interested in a variety of options from taking a controlling interest to an outright cash buyout. I don't want to sound like a vulture, but the CALEA deadline is coming fast and it will become increasingly difficult to sell a business that is not compliant after the deadline passes. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Oh brother. Did you know that there has NEVER been a CALEA non compliance action? I can think of a lot of reasons to get out of the business but CALEA isn't even on the list let alone near the top. Marlon Because only telcos were subject to CALEA - and all class 4/5 switches from the big vendors are tappable. The same can not be said of routers and other broadband gear and all VoIP gear. Also, BB CALEA has only been done at the Olympics by a special team. But M&A activity has been increasing in the last few months - for many reasons. This would just be one more reason to sell - call it: not wanting to put up with the BS or the liability. Get those plans filed you have less than a week. - Peter -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?
Dawn - the way I see it is that this is a way for a company with deep pockets to come in and buy up some companies at below market value. To use CALEA as a marketing tool for such is in my book completely out of line. Well I guess it isn't depending on who you are... NOONE is over their heads with CALEA at the moment. Jeeesh - let's let this play out before anyone goes on a doom and gloom campaign. JohnnyO - Original Message - From: "Dawn DiPietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] are you for sale? Marlon, To be honest with you I think some WISP's are in over their heads at this point. This is just an opportunity for them to get out gracefully if they choose to do so. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Did you know that there has NEVER been a CALEA non compliance action? I can think of a lot of reasons to get out of the business but CALEA isn't even on the list let alone near the top. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:27 PM Subject: [WISPA] are you for sale? In discussions with others it has come to my attention that several companies are looking to exit the business for various reasons not the least of which is CALEA. If you're serious about exploring an exit, contact me offlist. I am interested in a variety of options from taking a controlling interest to an outright cash buyout. I don't want to sound like a vulture, but the CALEA deadline is coming fast and it will become increasingly difficult to sell a business that is not compliant after the deadline passes. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
Look at Sonic Wall, they have a subscription service for filtering, but will set you back $700-$1000. - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:21 AM Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?
Marlon, To be honest with you I think some WISP's are in over their heads at this point. This is just an opportunity for them to get out gracefully if they choose to do so. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Did you know that there has NEVER been a CALEA non compliance action? I can think of a lot of reasons to get out of the business but CALEA isn't even on the list let alone near the top. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:27 PM Subject: [WISPA] are you for sale? In discussions with others it has come to my attention that several companies are looking to exit the business for various reasons not the least of which is CALEA. If you're serious about exploring an exit, contact me offlist. I am interested in a variety of options from taking a controlling interest to an outright cash buyout. I don't want to sound like a vulture, but the CALEA deadline is coming fast and it will become increasingly difficult to sell a business that is not compliant after the deadline passes. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz
Greg used to be with DragonWave. I think that they a have a quality product. The fact that you can change the channel size is very nice. I really like my Orthogon radios, but definitely will look at exalt on my next 5.xGhz backhaul. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan Oliver Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 5:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz Brett Bonomo and Greg VanDell of Exalt provided amazing pre-sales support when I inquired about their 4.9 GHz gear for an RFP a few weeks ago. Exalt takes the cake in 4.9 GHz because of high guaranteed throughput (up to 55 Mbps goodput with 20 MHz channel) and sync, which would allow many more than two links to be deployed from a central location. They can also do sub-millisecond latency (or up to 5 ms for maximum throughput) and have adjustable channel sizes - down to 5 MHz, I believe, with 1 MHz spacing - to help one fit into cluttered spectrum. All of these things apply to the 5.xtri-band product, except that it can do 13 Mbps (in 8 MHz) to 216 Mbps (in 64 MHz). The integrated tri-band radio/antenna looks like the most flexible option out there right now for shorter links where any of the three bands would work. On 5/7/07, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.exaltcom.com/ > > Anyone else heard of these guys? I'm guessing since bob is keeping up on > them, they're worth keeping up on. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 4:05 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz > > > Exalt real soon > > Bob > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 15:46:23 > To:"WISPA General List" > Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz > > Redline has a certified product released. Orthogon is about to have > theirs > out. Anyone else? > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] commercial router
Marlon, That being the case, I would do something simple like the L7 Filter or DansGuardian, quick and easy and best of all, cheap. I think a lot of the suggestions are overkill for what you are describing. Regards, Kris Efland IntraMeta Corporation t. 972.231.5999 f. 972.231.7022 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 6:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] commercial router It's a small private school/business. Think Amish but they do have computers Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Kris R Efland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router Marlon, The two that I've encountered most in the field are the Allot NetEnforcer and Packeteer's products. The Allot software has gotten much better recently with detecting 'bad' traffic that gets routed through standard ports (80/443/20/21,etc). And Packeteer has some good content caching patents. Both of their prices are high though. Here's a decent write-up, it's a little old: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,901491,00.asp Though neither of those are a true 'router' but more of a gateway that would sit behind the router, so I don't know if that's what you are looking for. I could also recommend some open source projects for the DIY person. L7 Filter, DansGuardian, ntop, etc are the standouts. Also, most of the open source firewalls also do basic string matching on urls: *myspace.com for instance. Going down that route I would look at m0n0wall and smoothwall, both of which I've used with success. Are they trying to eliminate types of traffic (P2P) or are they trying to block specific sites? Some of the cheaper products do one and not the other. The better content filters have a subscription type system to do remote updates periodically to the product for an updated list with new proxies and sites they've flagged as bad (think Norton). There are some other products out there like photo no-no (www.photonono.com) that actually filter images on the fly. Though they were very hesitant to send me benchmarks when I was talking to them a while back so you probably need some horsepower to use them at scale. Regards, Kris Efland IntraMeta Corporation t. 972.231.5999 f. 972.231.7022 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:22 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
It's a small private school/business. Think Amish but they do have computers Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Kris R Efland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router Marlon, The two that I've encountered most in the field are the Allot NetEnforcer and Packeteer's products. The Allot software has gotten much better recently with detecting 'bad' traffic that gets routed through standard ports (80/443/20/21,etc). And Packeteer has some good content caching patents. Both of their prices are high though. Here's a decent write-up, it's a little old: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,901491,00.asp Though neither of those are a true 'router' but more of a gateway that would sit behind the router, so I don't know if that's what you are looking for. I could also recommend some open source projects for the DIY person. L7 Filter, DansGuardian, ntop, etc are the standouts. Also, most of the open source firewalls also do basic string matching on urls: *myspace.com for instance. Going down that route I would look at m0n0wall and smoothwall, both of which I've used with success. Are they trying to eliminate types of traffic (P2P) or are they trying to block specific sites? Some of the cheaper products do one and not the other. The better content filters have a subscription type system to do remote updates periodically to the product for an updated list with new proxies and sites they've flagged as bad (think Norton). There are some other products out there like photo no-no (www.photonono.com) that actually filter images on the fly. Though they were very hesitant to send me benchmarks when I was talking to them a while back so you probably need some horsepower to use them at scale. Regards, Kris Efland IntraMeta Corporation t. 972.231.5999 f. 972.231.7022 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:22 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?
Oh brother. Did you know that there has NEVER been a CALEA non compliance action? I can think of a lot of reasons to get out of the business but CALEA isn't even on the list let alone near the top. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:27 PM Subject: [WISPA] are you for sale? In discussions with others it has come to my attention that several companies are looking to exit the business for various reasons not the least of which is CALEA. If you're serious about exploring an exit, contact me offlist. I am interested in a variety of options from taking a controlling interest to an outright cash buyout. I don't want to sound like a vulture, but the CALEA deadline is coming fast and it will become increasingly difficult to sell a business that is not compliant after the deadline passes. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PortaOne? -- another VoIP Softswitch company
There are about 1200 VoIP Providers. Many are doing wholesale targeting the ISP market, because Retail is too hard and / or expensive, unless you segment the market and do niche selling. There are LOTS of softswitches. The truth is that Asterisk is a fine softswitch since most VoIP services do not see more than 300 simultaneous calls. At 4 to 1, that's 1200 lines. That would make you Big. On a good Proliant server, you could easily run 300 calls. Of course, your router would have to be able to handle 300 I/O requests from the switch + all the other I/O requests, so you would need a strong box. - Peter Charles Wu wrote: If VoIP softswitches is something that you're actively investigating, you may want to look into Netsapiens www.netsapiens.com What's interesting is that their primary focus is on independent ISPs / WISPs / etc -Charles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cw Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 11:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PortaOne? I'd be interested to know if anyone has used their soft switch. Apparently all the pieces bundled together can be purchased for $66,000. That's a very attractive price for a soft switch of this quality. - cw -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz
How much? Dylan Oliver wrote: Brett Bonomo and Greg VanDell of Exalt provided amazing pre-sales support when I inquired about their 4.9 GHz gear for an RFP a few weeks ago. Exalt takes the cake in 4.9 GHz because of high guaranteed throughput (up to 55 Mbps goodput with 20 MHz channel) and sync, which would allow many more than two links to be deployed from a central location. They can also do sub-millisecond latency (or up to 5 ms for maximum throughput) and have adjustable channel sizes - down to 5 MHz, I believe, with 1 MHz spacing - to help one fit into cluttered spectrum. All of these things apply to the 5.xtri-band product, except that it can do 13 Mbps (in 8 MHz) to 216 Mbps (in 64 MHz). The integrated tri-band radio/antenna looks like the most flexible option out there right now for shorter links where any of the three bands would work. On 5/7/07, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.exaltcom.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz
Brett Bonomo and Greg VanDell of Exalt provided amazing pre-sales support when I inquired about their 4.9 GHz gear for an RFP a few weeks ago. Exalt takes the cake in 4.9 GHz because of high guaranteed throughput (up to 55 Mbps goodput with 20 MHz channel) and sync, which would allow many more than two links to be deployed from a central location. They can also do sub-millisecond latency (or up to 5 ms for maximum throughput) and have adjustable channel sizes - down to 5 MHz, I believe, with 1 MHz spacing - to help one fit into cluttered spectrum. All of these things apply to the 5.xtri-band product, except that it can do 13 Mbps (in 8 MHz) to 216 Mbps (in 64 MHz). The integrated tri-band radio/antenna looks like the most flexible option out there right now for shorter links where any of the three bands would work. On 5/7/07, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.exaltcom.com/ Anyone else heard of these guys? I'm guessing since bob is keeping up on them, they're worth keeping up on. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz Exalt real soon Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 15:46:23 To:"WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz Redline has a certified product released. Orthogon is about to have theirs out. Anyone else? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] PortaOne? -- another VoIP Softswitch company
If VoIP softswitches is something that you're actively investigating, you may want to look into Netsapiens www.netsapiens.com What's interesting is that their primary focus is on independent ISPs / WISPs / etc -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cw Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 11:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PortaOne? I'd be interested to know if anyone has used their soft switch. Apparently all the pieces bundled together can be purchased for $66,000. That's a very attractive price for a soft switch of this quality. - cw Zack Kneisley wrote: > Anyone have an opinion on this companies offerings? They now > apparently work seamlessly with Mikrotik. > > Z -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Useful book from DOJ
This book showed up in my mailbox at MSU one day. I ignored it for a while, but looked it over last week and found some interesting info. Probably most useful to a startup WISP, it has some sample subpoena (s), court orders, etc. Basic info on ECPA, etc. The full PDF is linked from this page: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/nij/pubs-sum/210798.htm Investigations Involving the Internet and Computer Networks By National Institute of Justice January 2007 This NIJ Special Report is intended as a resource for individuals responsible for investigations involving the use of the Internet and other computer networks. Any crime could involve devices that communicate through the Internet or through a network. Criminals may use the Internet for numerous reasons, including trading/sharing information (e.g., documents, photographs), concealing their identity, and gathering information on victims. The report is among a series of guides on investigating electronic crime. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ping
Ding. Ding Lol Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 16:17:44 To:"'WISPA General List'" Subject: RE: [WISPA] ping Lol. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ping YAY! - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:28 AM Subject: [WISPA] ping > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=4293&highlight=surfcontrol - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:21 AM Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
check squidguard with squidcache. not commercial, but cheap.. http://www.squidguard.org/ http://squidguard.mesd.k12.or.us/ -- Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: > Hi All, > > I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content > filtering. > > What are people using these days? > > Prices? > > thanks, > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since > 1999! > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
Try a Barracuda Web Filter. Not sure how good they work but their Spamfilter works pretty good. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: "Scott Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] commercial router You got it, Matt, and that is why I ask how to do it with MT. My SonicWall subscription service works great for this, but if someone knows a way to do it in MT, that would be awesome. Matt Liotta wrote: That isn't content filtering as most in the industry would define it. Anyone can drop packets based upon metrics such as destination IP. Generally, when people ask for content filtering they are looking for high level policies that can block certain types of content e.g. porn. If you want to block porn, you are not going to be able to keep a list of IP/hostnames that are known porn sites. You need something more sophisticated. How sophisticated? Try answering the question, "what is porn?" Is a picture of a naked human porn? What about babies? What about medical imaging? Will someone's porn be someone else's art? Who decides? The folks I have talked who want content filtered don't want to have to decide what specifically is filtered. They just want their ass covered in case something comes up. This is where having a 3rd party who is in the business helps. That 3rd party needs to be compensated in order to take on the liability of content filtering, which is quite serious. I'd hate to be on the wrong side of this issue, whichever side it was. -Matt Smith, Rick wrote: again, Mikrotik. Even 2.7 had it http://www.mikrotik.com/documentation//manual_2.7/IP/Firewall.html Under "Marking the Packets (Mangle) and Changing" content (text; default: "") - the text packets should contain in order to match the rule I use 2.8.38 at a school to filter out everything to do with myspace.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] commercial router Need content filtering. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Smith, Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router You can't get away from Mikrotik! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz
Mike Hammett wrote: http://www.exaltcom.com/ Anyone else heard of these guys? I'm guessing since bob is keeping up on them, they're worth keeping up on. We have deployed Exalt radios and find the have a pretty unique offering. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?
JohnnyO wrote: Well Matt - "not one of those people" which would be me - will not ignore the fact of what you're stating is a valid reason for selling out due to Calea. I simply will voice my opinion on the matter. I never stated anything of the sort. What people decide to do with their business is their concern and not mine. If you are going to voice your opinion on a fact you should probably get the fact correct to start with. If someone wants to sell their business because of a bad hair day I don't mind talking to the person. I would mind if suddenly someone starting trying to argue that I am suggesting a bad hair day is a valid reason. I am sure that more will agree vs. disagree with me that selling out your company due to a Calea hurdle is not a good reason to sell. And I really don't like seeing someone trying to come in and push a challenge that we're up against as a reason to sell. I am not pushing anything. CALEA is a regulation put on businesses by the Government; not me. It's not my fault CALEA exists. Maybe you should spend your time helping all these companies worried about CALEA compliance as opposed to worrying about me. Clearly they can use your help since you don't seem to think CALEA is much a of hurdle. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] ping
Lol. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ping YAY! - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:28 AM Subject: [WISPA] ping > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz
http://www.exaltcom.com/ Anyone else heard of these guys? I'm guessing since bob is keeping up on them, they're worth keeping up on. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz Exalt real soon Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 15:46:23 To:"WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz Redline has a certified product released. Orthogon is about to have theirs out. Anyone else? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?
Well Matt - "not one of those people" which would be me - will not ignore the fact of what you're stating is a valid reason for selling out due to Calea. I simply will voice my opinion on the matter. I am sure that more will agree vs. disagree with me that selling out your company due to a Calea hurdle is not a good reason to sell. And I really don't like seeing someone trying to come in and push a challenge that we're up against as a reason to sell. If you feel what I am saying doesn't hold water... then ignore me :) JohnnyO - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] are you for sale? JohnnyO wrote: Gloom and Doom - Interesting Tactic there Liotta.. Im sorry - but Calea is not a reason for anyone to sell their business. The Fat lady has not nor will not sing on this issue. Not sure how you can say what is and is not a valid reason for someone else to sell their business. Some people feel it is important to comply with CALEA, while others don't. I'm not interested in that debate. Simply put, I am aware that some people feel CALEA may put them out of business and would like to exit before then. If you are one of those people contact me. If you are not one of those people then simply ignore me. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz
Exalt real soon Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 15:46:23 To:"WISPA General List" Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 Ghz Redline has a certified product released. Orthogon is about to have theirs out. Anyone else? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?
JohnnyO wrote: Gloom and Doom - Interesting Tactic there Liotta.. Im sorry - but Calea is not a reason for anyone to sell their business. The Fat lady has not nor will not sing on this issue. Not sure how you can say what is and is not a valid reason for someone else to sell their business. Some people feel it is important to comply with CALEA, while others don't. I'm not interested in that debate. Simply put, I am aware that some people feel CALEA may put them out of business and would like to exit before then. If you are one of those people contact me. If you are not one of those people then simply ignore me. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] are you for sale?
Gloom and Doom - Interesting Tactic there Liotta.. Im sorry - but Calea is not a reason for anyone to sell their business. The Fat lady has not nor will not sing on this issue. JohnnyO - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:27 PM Subject: [WISPA] are you for sale? In discussions with others it has come to my attention that several companies are looking to exit the business for various reasons not the least of which is CALEA. If you're serious about exploring an exit, contact me offlist. I am interested in a variety of options from taking a controlling interest to an outright cash buyout. I don't want to sound like a vulture, but the CALEA deadline is coming fast and it will become increasingly difficult to sell a business that is not compliant after the deadline passes. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
You got it, Matt, and that is why I ask how to do it with MT. My SonicWall subscription service works great for this, but if someone knows a way to do it in MT, that would be awesome. Matt Liotta wrote: That isn't content filtering as most in the industry would define it. Anyone can drop packets based upon metrics such as destination IP. Generally, when people ask for content filtering they are looking for high level policies that can block certain types of content e.g. porn. If you want to block porn, you are not going to be able to keep a list of IP/hostnames that are known porn sites. You need something more sophisticated. How sophisticated? Try answering the question, "what is porn?" Is a picture of a naked human porn? What about babies? What about medical imaging? Will someone's porn be someone else's art? Who decides? The folks I have talked who want content filtered don't want to have to decide what specifically is filtered. They just want their ass covered in case something comes up. This is where having a 3rd party who is in the business helps. That 3rd party needs to be compensated in order to take on the liability of content filtering, which is quite serious. I'd hate to be on the wrong side of this issue, whichever side it was. -Matt Smith, Rick wrote: again, Mikrotik. Even 2.7 had it http://www.mikrotik.com/documentation//manual_2.7/IP/Firewall.html Under "Marking the Packets (Mangle) and Changing" content (text; default: "") - the text packets should contain in order to match the rule I use 2.8.38 at a school to filter out everything to do with myspace.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] commercial router Need content filtering. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Smith, Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router You can't get away from Mikrotik! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 5.4 Ghz
Redline has a certified product released. Orthogon is about to have theirs out. Anyone else? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Hotspot setup
Is it possible to use MT Hotspot feature with clients that already have a public static IP address? I have a client that wants to be able to turn off their Internet Access when not being used.. they have a couple of computers in their office that unauthorized people may have access to when they step out of the office for a minute or two, and want to prevent those unauthorized people from using the computer(s) to access the internet. The set up is like this... client computers connected to a D-Link router, NAT/DHCP addressing. The D-Link has a static public IP on the WAN side. The D-Link accesses the Internet through a Tranzeo CPE configured in bridge mode, which is associated to the MT Access point. It is at this point that I would like to configure the hotspot, but only for this one client. Further info... The MT AP is also acting as a transparent bridge, receiving traffic on the AP side, and sending it to the network Gateway out ether1 (which goes through two more transparent bridges before it gets to the GW). The MT that is acting as AP for this client is on OS 2.9.35 The MT AP currently has a private IP address. I could put a public IP on it and switch it to a routed segment at some point, but would rather not have to do that before setting this hotspot up for this client if that is at all possible. My thoughts are that it would be great to intercept traffic coming from the customer's public IP and direct it to the hotspot's walled garden until they provide a username and password, the enable access until they either log out or are inactive for a given number of minutes, or possible after a maximum length of time. I know that I can use the MT to direct traffic to a walled garden manually (I have used it like that to manually disable a customer's access) but would like to use it with the client login/logout feature. If someone has some pointers, or is willing to help me set this up, I would greatly appreciate any help. John Vogel -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ping
YAY! - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:28 AM Subject: [WISPA] ping -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] are you for sale?
In discussions with others it has come to my attention that several companies are looking to exit the business for various reasons not the least of which is CALEA. If you're serious about exploring an exit, contact me offlist. I am interested in a variety of options from taking a controlling interest to an outright cash buyout. I don't want to sound like a vulture, but the CALEA deadline is coming fast and it will become increasingly difficult to sell a business that is not compliant after the deadline passes. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Fort Knox firewall
Lol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Smith, Rick Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Fort Knox firewall A little off topic, but I wonder what the FBI would say to seeing a CALEA dump of your google session "+fort +knox +firewall" lol. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan Bouterse Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 10:40 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Fort Knox firewall We have a local LEA that has an old Fort Knox firewall and had to reset to factory defaults but now cannot gain access to the box. I've tried googling the password but have not come up with anything. Does anybody out there know what the default access is to a Fort Knox 3000 firewall? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] commercial router
George, You *could* do it that way, by poisoning your DNS cache (or de-poisoning it, depending on your outlook), but what would stop someone from using another DNS server, like Open DNS? You need something in the byte stream for it to be effective. Regards, Kris Efland IntraMeta Corporation t. 972.231.5999 f. 972.231.7022 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 2:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] commercial router I thought that content filtering happened by way of dns. George Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: > Do you have a content filtering service? > > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > - Original Message - From: "Jeff Broadwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'WISPA General List'" > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:27 AM > Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router > > >> ImageStream? *ducking* :-) >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM >> To: wireless@wispa.org >> Subject: [WISPA] commercial router >> >> Hi All, >> >> I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content >> filtering. >> >> What are people using these days? >> >> Prices? >> >> thanks, >> Marlon >> (509) 982-2181 >> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services >> 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since >> 1999! >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless >> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam >> >> >> >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] commercial router
Marlon, The two that I've encountered most in the field are the Allot NetEnforcer and Packeteer's products. The Allot software has gotten much better recently with detecting 'bad' traffic that gets routed through standard ports (80/443/20/21,etc). And Packeteer has some good content caching patents. Both of their prices are high though. Here's a decent write-up, it's a little old: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,901491,00.asp Though neither of those are a true 'router' but more of a gateway that would sit behind the router, so I don't know if that's what you are looking for. I could also recommend some open source projects for the DIY person. L7 Filter, DansGuardian, ntop, etc are the standouts. Also, most of the open source firewalls also do basic string matching on urls: *myspace.com for instance. Going down that route I would look at m0n0wall and smoothwall, both of which I've used with success. Are they trying to eliminate types of traffic (P2P) or are they trying to block specific sites? Some of the cheaper products do one and not the other. The better content filters have a subscription type system to do remote updates periodically to the product for an updated list with new proxies and sites they've flagged as bad (think Norton). There are some other products out there like photo no-no (www.photonono.com) that actually filter images on the fly. Though they were very hesitant to send me benchmarks when I was talking to them a while back so you probably need some horsepower to use them at scale. Regards, Kris Efland IntraMeta Corporation t. 972.231.5999 f. 972.231.7022 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:22 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ping
Pong? On 5/7/07, Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
Trust Eli http://www.trusteli.com/ They will send you a evaluation box pretty cheap, You maight have to go through D&H or another big distributor though, can't remember. I've put it on the back burner, but from what the sales rep showed me and told me it would be my first choice for content filtering. Zack On 5/7/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Need content filtering. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
That isn't content filtering as most in the industry would define it. Anyone can drop packets based upon metrics such as destination IP. Generally, when people ask for content filtering they are looking for high level policies that can block certain types of content e.g. porn. If you want to block porn, you are not going to be able to keep a list of IP/hostnames that are known porn sites. You need something more sophisticated. How sophisticated? Try answering the question, "what is porn?" Is a picture of a naked human porn? What about babies? What about medical imaging? Will someone's porn be someone else's art? Who decides? The folks I have talked who want content filtered don't want to have to decide what specifically is filtered. They just want their ass covered in case something comes up. This is where having a 3rd party who is in the business helps. That 3rd party needs to be compensated in order to take on the liability of content filtering, which is quite serious. I'd hate to be on the wrong side of this issue, whichever side it was. -Matt Smith, Rick wrote: again, Mikrotik. Even 2.7 had it http://www.mikrotik.com/documentation//manual_2.7/IP/Firewall.html Under "Marking the Packets (Mangle) and Changing" content (text; default: "") - the text packets should contain in order to match the rule I use 2.8.38 at a school to filter out everything to do with myspace.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] commercial router Need content filtering. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Smith, Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router You can't get away from Mikrotik! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
I thought that content filtering happened by way of dns. George Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Do you have a content filtering service? Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Jeff Broadwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router ImageStream? *ducking* :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] commercial router
again, Mikrotik. Even 2.7 had it http://www.mikrotik.com/documentation//manual_2.7/IP/Firewall.html Under "Marking the Packets (Mangle) and Changing" content (text; default: "") - the text packets should contain in order to match the rule I use 2.8.38 at a school to filter out everything to do with myspace.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] commercial router Need content filtering. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Smith, Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router You can't get away from Mikrotik! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
Do you have a content filtering service? Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Jeff Broadwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router ImageStream? *ducking* :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
Need content filtering. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Smith, Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] commercial router You can't get away from Mikrotik! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question
I don't think this is covered anyway, unless the guy is a permanent resident at the hotel. The subpoena will cover the suspect and any known IP or MAC info and I believe would cover a particular physical location. I was told that a subpoena cannot simply say anything, anywhere. It has to get fairly specific, and traffic from a Motel is not very specific. Lonnie On 5/4/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There will likely be cases where that's impossible. Lets say that I have a customer that's a hotel. They, at first, only know the ip addy or mac addy. A subpoena comes to me looking for info on the user in question. There's no way to use the hotel's Linksys hardware to do the tap to find the specific think that LEA is looking for. Can't change the network because any action on our side tips off the suspect. In some cases it won't be possible to filter out all info. Especially if we don't know what we're looking for (which we won't and shouldn't) as far as specific data goes. I talked to the head of the FBI's CALEA group for about an hour again yesterday. They know full well that there are just some things that can't be done. At the end of the day, the just need our help when and where we can give it to them. There are far too many possibilities to deal with every single possible situation, we know that, they know that. As long as we make a real effort to help I don't think we have to worry about getting in trouble. It's those that thumb their noses that will run enforcement risks. I was told that there has NEVER been an enforcement issue occur. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Dawn DiPietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 3:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question > Marlon, > > I was under the impression the providers are only supposed to send the LEA > the data covered in the subpoena and no more. > > Regards, > Dawn DiPietro > > > Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >> Read the FAQ. In some cases they may have to sort through ALL data to >> get at what they want. >> marlon >> >> - Original Message - From: "Tom DeReggi" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 9:12 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question >> >> >>> In my opinion, I don;t think it will fly because of "NAT". >>> The law inforcement agrency needs to be able to differenciate what >>> customer traffic is comming from, and if you use NAT for any of your >>> customers, the facilities based upstream provider would have no way to >>> identify the end user, and the WISP would become the customer and be >>> liable. To many degrees of seperation at the upstream for the captured >>> data to be meaningful. >>> >>> Tom DeReggi >>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "WISPA General List" >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:27 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question >>> >>> The FCC wrote: > we conclude that establishments that > acquire broadband Internet access service from a facilities-based > provider to enable their patrons or customers to access the Internet > from their respective establishments are not considered > facilities-based > broadband Internet access service providers Hm. It'd be one heckuva stretch, but by reading the letter (as opposed to the spirit) of that paragraph, many smaller WISPs would automatically be exempt. I know my office has "acquired broadband Internet access service from a facilities-based provider" (our upstream ISP) and we're enabling our customers to access the Internet from their respective establishments (i.e. our customers pay for Internet at their homes or offices). By the letter of that paragraph (and, to be fair, I haven't read all the context surrounding it) most any single-homed WISP would be exempt, as they could just say "go talk to our upstream." (I doubt it'd work for multi-homed ISPs, as that would require multiple upstreams to be tapped and somehow synchronized, which is probably technically annoying.) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> -- >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subs
Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question
We use a DLINK hotspot router that emails me every connect and disconnect from our hotels. The FBI could take that log and compare it to room number and date of stay and they can find their man that way... FYI> - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question There will likely be cases where that's impossible. Lets say that I have a customer that's a hotel. They, at first, only know the ip addy or mac addy. A subpoena comes to me looking for info on the user in question. There's no way to use the hotel's Linksys hardware to do the tap to find the specific think that LEA is looking for. Can't change the network because any action on our side tips off the suspect. In some cases it won't be possible to filter out all info. Especially if we don't know what we're looking for (which we won't and shouldn't) as far as specific data goes. I talked to the head of the FBI's CALEA group for about an hour again yesterday. They know full well that there are just some things that can't be done. At the end of the day, the just need our help when and where we can give it to them. There are far too many possibilities to deal with every single possible situation, we know that, they know that. As long as we make a real effort to help I don't think we have to worry about getting in trouble. It's those that thumb their noses that will run enforcement risks. I was told that there has NEVER been an enforcement issue occur. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Dawn DiPietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 3:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question Marlon, I was under the impression the providers are only supposed to send the LEA the data covered in the subpoena and no more. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Read the FAQ. In some cases they may have to sort through ALL data to get at what they want. marlon - Original Message - From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question In my opinion, I don;t think it will fly because of "NAT". The law inforcement agrency needs to be able to differenciate what customer traffic is comming from, and if you use NAT for any of your customers, the facilities based upstream provider would have no way to identify the end user, and the WISP would become the customer and be liable. To many degrees of seperation at the upstream for the captured data to be meaningful. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question The FCC wrote: we conclude that establishments that acquire broadband Internet access service from a facilities-based provider to enable their patrons or customers to access the Internet from their respective establishments are not considered facilities-based broadband Internet access service providers Hm. It'd be one heckuva stretch, but by reading the letter (as opposed to the spirit) of that paragraph, many smaller WISPs would automatically be exempt. I know my office has "acquired broadband Internet access service from a facilities-based provider" (our upstream ISP) and we're enabling our customers to access the Internet from their respective establishments (i.e. our customers pay for Internet at their homes or offices). By the letter of that paragraph (and, to be fair, I haven't read all the context surrounding it) most any single-homed WISP would be exempt, as they could just say "go talk to our upstream." (I doubt it'd work for multi-homed ISPs, as that would require multiple upstreams to be tapped and somehow synchronized, which is probably technically annoying.) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --
RE: [WISPA] commercial router
Use firewall mangling / packet matching ? I use it at a local school here to block myspace.com and all the free proxies for it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] commercial router How do you do web content filtering on MT? Smith, Rick wrote: > You can't get away from Mikrotik! :) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM > To: wireless@wispa.org > Subject: [WISPA] commercial router > > Hi All, > > I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content > filtering. > > What are people using these days? > > Prices? > > thanks, > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services > 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since > 1999! > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] commercial router
How do you do web content filtering on MT? Smith, Rick wrote: You can't get away from Mikrotik! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] commercial router
ImageStream? *ducking* :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] ping
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RE: [WISPA] commercial router
You can't get away from Mikrotik! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:22 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] commercial router
Hi All, I have a customer that's looking for a router that also does content filtering. What are people using these days? Prices? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Test
Thanks for the vacation guys, this was an easy weekend to moderate the lists :) Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mickey McCurdy Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Test test -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
