On Fri, 19 Oct 2007, Tom DeReggi wrote:
Interesting arcticle.
Certainly it was. It was well written BS!
My belief is that any ISP has the right to control usage of their
network. But this arcticle was most interesting because it was
addressing what are the ethical ways to accomplish that.
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007, Tom DeReggi wrote:
What they are doing here is sending a message that if you Buy
Comcast you get performance, if you buy from our competitors, you
Isn't that an ideal public perception? I mean, if I could get
people to understand that one reason my network is better than
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007, Mike Hammett wrote:
Mikrotik can control raw connections as well, but UDP is not
connection based.
Absolutely correct. However, the linux iptables connection tracking
does not care if it is UDP or TCP.
--
Butch Evans
Network Engineering and Security Consulting
573-276-
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007, George Rogato wrote:
A couple names that came up was Imagestream, who says they can
control the amount of connections to help control p2p. Jeff will
step in and correct me if I'm wrong.
You are correct. Mikrotik can do the same. ANY Linux based system
can limit connect
Call Tranzeo support and give them the Mac Address and they will give you a
password to get back in.
Frank
Brightlan LLC
- Original Message -
From: "Leon D. Zetekoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 9:46 PM
Subject: [SPAM] [WISPA] getting a Tra
You "find" them using the CPE locator from support.tranzeo.com
Once you are able to get a username/password prompt via a web-
interface you call Tranzeo with the MAC address.
They give you a backdoor password and away you go.
ryan
On Oct 19, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Leon D. Zetekoff wrote:
I've
Mikrotik can control raw connections as well, but UDP is not connection
based.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 8:30 PM
Sub
I've had these in storage for awhile and I misplaced both my standard
and recovery userids and passwords. Does anyone know how to get these
back to factory defaults or is there a backdoor to get in?
Thanks, Leon
--
*Leon Zetekoff*
Proprietor
*Work:* 484-335-9920
*Mobile:* 610-223-8642
*Fa
Funny this came up today in the paper.
At this last weeks ISPCON, one of the hot finds us wisps were actively
looking for on the tradeshow floor was bandwidth management appliance
that we can use to control encrypted torrents and at the same time give
the user high bandwidth for the other in
What gets you peers is a balanced ratio. If it exceeds a certain ratio,
whomever is the one that initiates the transaction is usually the one that
pays.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECT
In all fairness... This thread is not about whether it is right or wrong to
block p2p. We probably all agree how harmful p2p traffic can be.
Its essential to try and block it.
The unsure part is What is an ethical way to block it.
An ISP may have the right to define what goes accross its ne
because we control the majority market, and we won't let you play with
our
clients in a favorable manner.
My mistake, "majority Market" was not the right word. Almost "Largest
percentage of the market" might be more appropriate. My understanding is
that Comcast has the second largest share of
This week started out as a long one but evened out toward the end…
Here are some fun pics to share:
1. How do we get to the tower again? I forget what road to follow? I wish
all tower roads were labeled this well!
http://www.irongoat.net/friday/WhatRoadToTheTower.jpg
This road is
This week started out as a long one but evened out toward the end.
Here are some fun pics to share:
1. How do we get to the tower again? I forget what road to follow? I
wish all tower roads were labeled this well!
http://www.irongoat.net/friday/WhatRoadToTheTower.jpg
This road is no
I must say, I misworded my statements. We allow it, but throttle and shape
it. If they fixed the problems with it, I would let it go full throttle
should have been how I worded it.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David E. Smith
Sent: Frid
> from a legal standpoint. Explaining it in technical terms (all these
> connections kills the tower and annoys other users) is safer, and as a
> bonus is completely true. It's actually more effective on many of my
> customers, who suddenly realize that the folks being affected by their
> selfish p
Scottie Arnett wrote:
Forgot to mention...if BT clients would not come with deafult connections
set at 500 to 1000, I might allow it to. That is where it kills our
equipment...the connections, not the bandwidth.
Concur, and THAT is why I limit p2p traffic on my network.
Frankly, I couldn't ca
Mikrotik just released a new update today with "improved warez/ares p2p
protocol matching".
Travis
Microserv
Matt wrote:
25 ?! You're lucky. If I stop my Mikrotik queues based on all-p2p
matching via firewall mangles, the network
will come to a stop because usage will go to 99%.
I was talking on my backbone to my upstreams... which is currently
running at 105Mbps incoming x 45Mbps outgoing. 25% of the incoming is
p2p if I turn off my queues. I don't see how 99% of your traffic could
be p2p, because people will still be surfing and checking email, etc.
which will have t
Forgot to mention...if BT clients would not come with deafult connections
set at 500 to 1000, I might allow it to. That is where it kills our
equipment...the connections, not the bandwidth.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David E. Smith
S
> 25 ?! You're lucky. If I stop my Mikrotik queues based on all-p2p
> matching via firewall mangles, the network
>
> will come to a stop because usage will go to 99%.
>
>
>
> I limit p2p down & uploads to 1kbps. Sue me.
My experience anymore is Mikrotik cannot do a very good job at
catching it
I can understand what you are saying, it BT is an efficient way to send
data. The problem lies in the 99.998% of what is transferred is illegal
files that are copyrighted. If BT could take care of that problem, I might
allow it on my network. For now, I use ftp.
-Original Message-
From:
Except for the growing number of perfectly legal things available via P2P
systems (Linux discs, updates for Blizzard Entertainment's World of Warcraft
which surpassed 9 million subscribers in July, Wikipedia CD, OpenOffice,
I've heard that Steam's 13 million users might be adopting P2P).
Except for the growing number of perfectly legal things available via P2P
systems (Linux discs, updates for Blizzard Entertainment's World of Warcraft
which surpassed 9 million subscribers in July, Wikipedia CD, OpenOffice,
I've heard that Steam's 13 million users might be adopting P2P).
Scottie Arnett wrote:
In my opinion, if they have something legit to transfer, they can setup and
use ftp. It works faster anyways IMHO.
You've obviously never been on a well-seeded torrent. :)
Seriously, plug yourself into your NOC right after a "big" Linux release
(the new version of Ubunt
In my opinion, if they have something legit to transfer, they can setup and
use ftp. It works faster anyways IMHO.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Smith, Rick
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 3:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WIS
25 ?! You're lucky. If I stop my Mikrotik queues based on all-p2p
matching via firewall mangles, the network
will come to a stop because usage will go to 99%.
I limit p2p down & uploads to 1kbps. Sue me.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent:
I would have to agree. They did it to save costs, which includes
bandwidth, transport, equipment upgrades, etc. If I run our network
wide open (which I do from 6:00PM to 7:00AM), we see p2p traffic using
25% of our total bandwidth.
Travis
Microserv
David E. Smith wrote:
On Fri, October 19,
On Fri, October 19, 2007 2:24 pm, Tom DeReggi wrote:
> Yeah right... It has nothing to do with saving Interconnect dollars.
> Comcast's download ratios are already way higher than upload even with
> BitTorrent full force, and probably are already getting paid for the
> peering relationships if any
h" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Look how ComCast deals with P2P
CHUCK PROFITO wrote:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071019/D8SCASQ80.html
Comcast has been doing this for a few months, actuall
x27;WISPA General List'"
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 1:17 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Look how ComCast deals with P2P
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071019/D8SCASQ80.html
Chuck Profito
209-988-7388
CV-ACCESS, INC
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Providing High Speed Broadband
to Rural Central Californi
"CHUCK PROFITO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 1:17 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Look how ComCast deals with P2P
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071019/D8SCASQ80.html
Chuck Profito
209-988-7388
CV-ACCESS, INC
[EMAI
The Tranzeo FD product is a neat product, and a cost effective option for
backhaul. But it does NOT have any hardware components in it that would
assist it to perform better in Noise over others. It is straight math, based
on the required SNR for basic OFDM that must be achieved. Combating Nois
Hi folks,
While we'll be sending a sponsored mail shortly with full details about
the new and improved AlvarionCOMNET WISP cooperative program, I wanted
to drop a note letting you know about the changes.
* New minimum quarterly thresholds - We are adding a new and really low
limit of only 10 CPE p
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kris R Efland
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 11:00 AM
To: WISPA General List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Intrameta / BOSS
Ryan,
I don't know if you were talking about USA Mobility's data center
CHUCK PROFITO wrote:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071019/D8SCASQ80.html
Comcast has been doing this for a few months, actually. By most
accounts, the traffic is throttled at their network edges - i.e. two
Comcast customers can trade files all they want, the throttling only
kicks in
Ryan,
I don't know if you were talking about USA Mobility's data centers our
ours, but I can assure you that USA Mobility is not one of our
customers, neither are MetroCall or Arch Paging. I can also attest that
we have no tin foil (or vacuum tubes) in any of our data centers. :)
An example of
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071019/D8SCASQ80.html
Chuck Profito
209-988-7388
CV-ACCESS, INC
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Providing High Speed Broadband
to Rural Central California
** Join us at the WISPA Reception
I wanted to see if anyone had experience with these Tranzeo full duplex
links? We have a longer shot that we are looking to upgrade and it is in a
very noisy area RF wise. I was reading a bit on the channel shields that
you order with these Tranzeo units and wanted to know how well they actually
39 matches
Mail list logo
