Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Mike Hammett
Games. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jonathan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 7:38 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT..Question We've

RE: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Is it still possible to buy a new computer and use XP? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 6:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question Games. - Mike Hammett

[WISPA] Hotspot APs

2007-12-10 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
I'm looking for input on a good 802.11 AP to use for public hotspots. These hotspots will be free to use for web browsing in restaurants. Looking for something simple and inexpensive that just works. Don't want to have to worry about rebooting the thing every few weeks when it locks up. I also

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Bob Moldashel
Purchased an HP laptop at BestBuy yesterday for $599 that was $899 just 60 days ago. Now is the time for deals, Also purchased a $399 Compaq for one of my field guys. Simple and disposable as far as I am concerned. -B- On Dec 9, 2007, at 11:41 PM, D. Ryan Spott wrote: $1000.00 You need

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread WWS2
FYI-Vista SP1 Beta is available now, I have loaded it on this laptop and another PC. **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301)

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Anthony Will
Dell and HP still sell XP. They are big enough to make Microsoft bend on the Vista release issues. We only have this month left though as far as I can tell. My bet is if SP1 doesn't resolve most of the issues with Vista that Dell and the like will continue to pressure MS for a XP solution.

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Mike Hammett
Yes, you can do so with Dell. I just received an ad from them about one. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results

2007-12-10 Thread Mike Hammett
I'd go 80 GHz over 60 GHz any day... better RF performance. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jake VanDewater [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 7:49 AM

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, The least expensive MacBook on Apple's site is $1,099... and that's only a 13.3 screen. The HP's I purchased a couple months ago have 15.4 screens... they were $600 each brand new. The MacBook Pro (15 screen) starts at $1,999. Travis Microserv D. Ryan Spott wrote: $1000.00 You need to

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot APs

2007-12-10 Thread Jeromie Reeves
If they had not dried up, Buffalo units with openwrt/ddwrt and a pptp/pppoe tunnel back to a mikrotik. There are a number of other compatible units. I wold sugest anything that will let you do a tunnel back to a central hotspot. You can have MT only allow them X time and/or Y bits. On 12/10/07,

RE: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results

2007-12-10 Thread Jake VanDewater
Has anyone worked with the 80GHz licensed or 60GHz unlicensed gear from BridgeWave? They claim to be able to get the license work done pretty cheap in roughly 5 days. Thoughts? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results

2007-12-10 Thread Marty Dougherty
Yes.. That would be easy. This message was sent from my Iphone Marty Dougherty CEO Roadstar Internet Inc. 703-554-6620 (office) [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Dec 10, 2007, at 8:49 AM, Jake VanDewater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone worked with the 80GHz licensed

RE: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results

2007-12-10 Thread Brad Belton
Yes and yes they handle the license. Not sue if it was five days on the license for us, but if they are telling you five days then I'd believe it. The beamwidths are so tight on these links that the chances of you receiving or causing interference is almost nil. Best, Brad -Original

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results

2007-12-10 Thread Mike Cowan
Hi Cameron, You should be able to see 35MB from a VL-AU running version 4.x frimware. 32MB if running 3.x. It is not shaped by direction at the factory, you set up/down limits in the SU, or set it to wide open and then you shpould be able to utilize full rate up or download. The B100s are

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Scottie Arnett
For the ones that can't do it themselves, do you not have pc shops that still build white box solutions around you? They are more expensive, but you get it like Burger King, Have it your way! We are also a pc shop, and I can load windows 95 on it for you if I can still find a place to buy it

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results

2007-12-10 Thread Marty Dougherty
I agree... This message was sent from my Iphone Marty Dougherty CEO Roadstar Internet Inc. 703-554-6620 (office) [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Dec 10, 2007, at 10:25 AM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] il.net wrote: I'd go 80 GHz over 60 GHz any day... better RF

[WISPA] MT v3.RC12! NOTICE

2007-12-10 Thread Dennis Burgess
Just a FYI For everyone! Warning, v3rc12 has an error when upgrading the x86 version. There are no know issues for v3rc12 when upgrading RouterBOARDS. Please wait for for v3rc13. Dennis M. Burgess, CCNA, MCP, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified Consultant Partner/Senior Engineer

RE: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results

2007-12-10 Thread Jake VanDewater
Does anyone have a standard link budget calculator they would recommend? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:15:59 -0500 CC: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree... This

RE: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Butch Evans
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, Jeff Broadwick wrote: I'm getting close to a decision on a new computer for my family. What Linux desk-top would be best at this point? I have not used it extensively, but there are a number of users of Ubuntu. The large user base means good support on forums and

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Butch Evans
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe if apple or linux had hundreds of thousands of programs written for it, they would be of benefit or offer a little competition to MicroSoft But when it is barely into the hundreds, it is easy to have it work so easily. What? There are

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot APs

2007-12-10 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Patrick Shoemaker wrote: I'm looking for input on a good 802.11 AP to use for public hotspots. These hotspots will be free to use for web browsing in restaurants. Looking for something simple and inexpensive that just works. Don't want to have to worry about rebooting the

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Travis Johnson
Adobe Photoshop Scansoft Paperport Quickbooks iTunes (for my iPhone) Streets and Trips 2008 Radio Mobile Quark Xpress Visio thanks, Travis Microserv Butch Evans wrote: On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe if apple or linux had hundreds of thousands of programs written for it,

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Dylan Oliver
This is getting a little further astray, but what makes you think that Fedora is geekier than Ubuntu? The ladies tell me I'm pretty geeky, but I run Ubuntu and now you're stepping on my . Can we please agree that there is nothing inherently more geeky about one distro vs another - though

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results

2007-12-10 Thread Mike Hammett
Radio Mobile. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jake VanDewater [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 11:38 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Mike Hammett
There are too many Linux programs to count... unfortunately, most of them are garbage and so is the support. You get what you pay for. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA

[WISPA] List Dad

2007-12-10 Thread Mike Hammett
Who is the list dad now? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

[WISPA] Low-Profile PCI 802.11g

2007-12-10 Thread Mike Hammett
Does anyone have a recommendation for an 802.11g device for a low-profile PCI slot? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Low-Profile PCI 802.11g

2007-12-10 Thread Jory Privett
MSI makes a nice one. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 12:14 PM Subject: [WISPA] Low-Profile PCI 802.11g Does anyone have a recommendation for an 802.11g device for a

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Travis Johnson wrote: Adobe Photoshop GIMP Scansoft Paperport Don't know what this one is. If it is a scanner driver, then there is one called sane for Linux. There is possibly more functionality in your app, but I am not familiar with what it is or does.

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Dylan Oliver
Freshbooks is fantastic for service invoicing. It handles recurring billing with supporting payment gateways, and also gives you the option to send paper invoices (monthly, automatically!) for a little more than a dollar. Roger Coude just announced Linux-friendly 8.6.0 this morning. It's worked

RE: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Brad Belton
Ok, here is a curve ball for you Butch; WinBox into a MikroTik router running v2.8. grin Only because recently you said you couldn't WinBox into a v2.8 client router we were working on together from your Linux machine. ducking Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Dylan Oliver wrote: This is getting a little further astray, but what makes you think that Fedora is geekier than Ubuntu? The ladies tell me I'm pretty geeky, but I run Ubuntu and now you're stepping on my . Can we please agree that there is nothing inherently more

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Mike Hammett wrote: There are too many Linux programs to count... unfortunately, most of them are garbage and so is the support. You get what you pay for. Nobody is trying to convince you of anything. You are obviously not very familiar regarding this topic, so your

RE: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Brad Belton wrote: Ok, here is a curve ball for you Butch; WinBox into a MikroTik router running v2.8. grin lol. Terminal with ssh? That is my preferred method anyway. I use winbox mostly because it remembers passwords anyway. ;-) Only because recently you said

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Butch Evans wrote: Nobody is trying to convince you of anything. CRAP. I apologize to the list (and Mike) for posting this to the list. I did not intend for this to go here. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Dylan Oliver
Glad we can be friends again! There is a 'server' edition for Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/serveredition. I just noticed a version optimized for VMWare ( http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/jeos), which is great for me as I run XP for Quickbooks and

RE: [WISPA] Hotspot APs

2007-12-10 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
Meraki Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 4:20 AM To:

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Mike Hammett
I've been using Linux in one duty or another for years... 5+. It cannot be a replacement for the home or small business desktop at this time. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

RE: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
Please add network stumbler to the list Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, December 10,

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Andrew Niemantsverdriet
Kismet works better than I could ever get network stumbler to work. More details too... On Dec 10, 2007 1:05 PM, CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please add network stumbler to the list Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to

RE: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Mark McElvy
Stumbler does not run under Vista either, Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CHUCK PROFITO Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 2:06 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT..Question Please add network stumbler to the list

RE: [WISPA] List Dad

2007-12-10 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Rick Harnish...they doubled his salary to take the job. :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 1:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] List Dad Who is the list dad now? - Mike

RE: [WISPA] List Dad

2007-12-10 Thread Rick Harnish
Still me, is there a problem? I can add it to my list of things to do today. Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 1:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] List Dad Who is the

Re: [WISPA] List Dad

2007-12-10 Thread David E. Smith
Rick Harnish wrote: Still me, is there a problem? I can add it to my list of things to do today. Probably the whole Linux/Windows OS thread about to get out of hand. I love a good OS flame war as much as the next guy, but I don't think [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an appropriate venue. :) David

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-10 Thread Frank Muto
I just bought a nice Systemax from Tiger Direct with XP and it includes a Vista Business upgrade license. It has plenty of room for expansion and the 2 Firewire ports work nice with the external storage HDD I use for backups for extra speed over USB. The Systemax Venture comes with a Dual Core

RE: [WISPA] OT......Question THREAD CLOSED

2007-12-10 Thread Rick Harnish
Let's move this thread to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you care to continue please. I have received several requests to kill this thread. Thank you, Rick Harnish No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1179 - Release Date:

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results

2007-12-10 Thread Scott Reed
Roger says it works under WINE very well. Mike Hammett wrote: Radio Mobile. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jake VanDewater [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 10,

[WISPA] Fast Broadband Goes Underground

2007-12-10 Thread Jack Unger
I don't want anybody to get any ideas but... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7104011.stm -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. FCC License # PG-12-25133 Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - Deploying License-Free

Re: [WISPA] Fast Broadband Goes Underground

2007-12-10 Thread Blair Davis
Dilbert's IP over sewer lives! Jack Unger wrote: I don't want anybody to get any ideas but... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7104011.stm WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results

2007-12-10 Thread Tom DeReggi
Getting the licence (light license) can be done more or less overnight. You pay a one time $1500 national license fee before you can directly order licenses, or you pay someone with a national license to pull it for you cheap. The individual link licenses are super cheap. However, I warn

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results

2007-12-10 Thread Tom DeReggi
80Ghz does have slightly better oxygen absorbance characteristics, so it can go about 25% farther. The purpose for 80Ghz in my mind is licensed protection. Because its licensed, you can find out who else in town has deployed, to rule out interference. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc